Grand Space Opera 3D Entry: Vagelis Dimitriadis

[Lelantos]

Hi to all.

This is my scenario idea hope u like.

<< In the galaxy of Herios 2 tribes were always in conflict the Shair and the Kthra.
In the many years of war the damage the 2 tribes had made to each other and to their lands was
more than great.
Their planets couldn't produce enough resources so the war was more and more brutal.
Technological the two tribes were in the same position except that the Shair were more interested
in genetics and the Kthra more interested in seerdom processors made for enhasing the power of
the supercomputers.
Its tecnhnology has its advantages and disadvantages.
The war was made for a third planet of the system called Anatropos. This planet had the most
beatifull environment of the three planets but also and the most resources. Actually this planet
was so big and pure that could feed both tribes without problem but the people couldn't see that.
Shair In the many years of war had created some extremely powerfull beasts and Kthra had some
extremely powerfull robots.
The 2 head scientists of the 2 tribes had seen the destruction that was made mindless from the
people and decided in a secret meeting to combine their technologies so they could create
something that could control the 2 tribes before something undoable might happen to the planets.
In the years to come the 2 scientist had made a lot of progress in what they had in mind The
scientist from the tribe of Shair being an artist in genetics has created a creature of extreme
power but gave him gentle purpose in life the scientist from the tribe of Kthra created a
supercomputer that could make the power and intelligence of the creature reach in levels unknown
for any creature of their time.
When finally the creature was complete there was time for the awakening.
Creature Knew how to talk to communicate to fight, also had a great knowledge of the culture of
both tribes so when it woke up knew what had to be done for the peace and what was its purpose in
life.
The creature has been named after the universe Herios.
The creature when it woked up started to do what it was made for with its extreme power of mind
it could control the creatures of the Shair but also and the machines of the Kthra in only a few
days both tribes were captured by their own weapons.
Creature has seen the destruction of the planets and decided to create a new world that both
tribes would have to live inside in peace so it began. in the third planet using the robots and
the creatures has created a city combing the culture of the 2 tribes. The result was a city of
beauty.
The 2 tribes had lived for 10 years in their planets without knowing what was going to happen.
The creature left them alone without technology, resources and anything else so they could think
about the destruction they made.
These were difficult years for the people the food wasn't enough to feed the population and the
water was very polluted and very hard to purify it.

The day of the celebration of the creation of the universe was near. The creature transfered both
populations in the great city.
After all population has been gathered to the center the creature started to speak to the heart
of the people and and made them understand not the destruction but the creation they could offer
in the world if no war existed it told them they were not prisoners or enslaved but free to do
anything in this world except war.
People of both tribes started to understand their mistakes and decided that it was time for the
war to an end and to live as friends in this city.
The day of the celebration of creation of the universe had come the people were leaving happily
together and in the great square of peace under the totem of war that was there to remind them
the mistakes of war the people in great joy and celebration had been united in this new era.>>

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101205477_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101205477_large.jpg)

This is a first view of how the city will be with people and creatures

[lehmi]

cool stuff...

I read the story... and it's not really my taste if it comes to scifi stuff... maybe a bit too cheesy for me... but it's cool introduction for your picture.

The mainpart seems to be the street, where all the people are walking on... what is this street for? Does it have something to do with the festival?


What does the creature look like?
Maybe you want to create something like a parade or so... people at both sides of the road and some creatures and people in the middle with costumes or so... dunno


looks really cool though...

keep it up!

[overcontrast]

hey great story and awesome concept man... i like where ur going.. this is gonna b one big scene!... best of luck mate

[DimitrisLiatsos]

...from me too man ! :bounce:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101218395_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101218395_large.jpg)

These are the people from the 2 tribes there will be some differences in the final design.

[Lelantos]

Thank you lehmi

lehmi : This is the main street that goes to the center of the city

actually i wont make any parade is a celebration were all people of both tribes will be gathered in the center of the city.

DimitrisLiatsos ,overcontrast : Thank you this is the first time i participate to cgchallenge and this encourage me much.

[terraarc]

Hey man, just saw your entry and read the "short" story of your Opera. Sounds like a big plan with lots of modelling, texturing and composition refinements in general!

Wishing you the best! :thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101237488_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101237488_large.jpg)

Head model of the Kthra

[Lelantos]

Thanx teraarc i will try my best hope to make it.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hey...friend ..nice start..do me a favour and post a front non-smoothed version of him.. ;)

Dimitris

[uwil]

pretty start! :buttrock:

[Virtuoso]

A nice scope and scale in your planning Vagelis........I wish you the best,work hard and have fun.........I like your plan/idea.and hope to see the full potential come out of this.........:arteest:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101241290_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101241290_large.jpg)

Here is the non smoothed version of the model as requested

Thanx for the replies this keeps me going.

[johnny3d]

hey friend, i like you idea and you medeling

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101299199_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101299199_large.jpg)

Hope you like this one any suggestions are welcome

[terraarc]

Nice start Vagelis! The model looks quite similar to the concept! I would suggest though giving some more curves on his face, right now looks kind of flat.

Keep it up! :thumbsup:

[greentek]

hi Vagelis..
i like idea.. concept sketch is very impressive.. modeling looks great for me! :thumbsup:
sorry but cant suggest anything because have no idea :shrug:
untill later and best of luck!!
cheers..

[Lelantos]

thanx for the replies


terraarc : My thought was the face to be flat, but you are correct i need to put some more curves.

[ARSA]

Great artwork you have here :), I like the concept and all :) the only think I will suggest for now. The anatomy of the character is a little bit odd... for example, the creature is a biped, the feet are planes, this will cause problems walking. I also could re-vise the "hips" it seems like the character doesnt have hips???

- cheers!

[adr]

The concept sketch is really nice with a nice sense of depth , the chars looks nice too . Your progress is coming along great Lelantos maybe the arms are to large but is a personal taste.

Keep the good work man :thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101380347_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101380347_large.jpg)

Here is one of the spaceship that will fly over the people

[Lelantos]

Arsa : I am working now on the anatomy needs still much refinment.

adr : You are right for the arms they are big but i wanted to be like this he has the arms of a monkey :D

Thanx for your replies much appreciated.:love:

I don't know if this is gonna be ready till the end of the contest since i also work on a project now but i will try hard.

[terraarc]

Pretty strange ship! It kind of reminds me this whale (http://www.wwf.org.uk/bigswim/graphics/2whales.jpg)
Waiting for more :thumbsup:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hi man.. u are progresing on this ..very good ...but my best advice is before you go o theguns and more stuff u want to mak ...stay some more time in your alien...It's better to have something ready before u proceedto the next one i think..

I suggest u think first that your alien is a BIPED (DIPODO) so maybe u have to make some thoughts on his proportions ....Hands i think should be a little fatter and shorter..(legs too)...Torso (KORMOS) should be a little taller and try some refinements taken basically from human anatomy maybe...Try some reference from www.fineart.sk (http://www.fineart.sk/) ...i think u could find a lot of stuff there and also some alien drawings to give u ideas and proportion reference....

U are doing good work man...just refine what u have done before proceeding to the next model...

hope i helped..:)

Dimitris

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101397292_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101397292_large.jpg)

ok here it is short hands and legs made them also fatter i gave some more curves in the head

Hope u like it

[Lelantos]

terraarc : Lol yes you are right it looks kind like a whale with this wing i put.

DimitrisLiatsos : thanx Dimitri your advice much appreciated, and thanx for that link was very helpfull :thumbsup:

Need some more refinements i think but can't think now
i must start doing some clothes now i think to clear my head and do some refinements later

Thanx for all replies

[terraarc]

I really like what you do with that character! He looks fine right now (not pretty of course in human measures!!) :thumbsup:

Waiting for some clothes

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101461706_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101461706_large.jpg)

Ok here are some clothes still need some details to work out

[Lelantos]

Thanx Terraarc he is an ugly Alien:D

These are some clothes i don't know for the trousers somethink isn't right there need to work them out more

[Virtuoso]

Hi Vagelis................You know I think the toes looked better than the shoes,perhaps you can keep him barefooted?I would add a third toe,this will balnace him out better........Also add a bit more upper lip......It is a good idea to refine what you have more before you jump too fast to the next models.........Keep at this,your goal here should be to get good practice not only in your skills,but to "Finish" and complete this challenge........Work hard,you are doing a good job..........:arteest:

[Lelantos]

Thanx for the advice Virtuoso i also think with no boots was better i will try to make something else for the feet.

yes i want to finish the challenge and get till the end ready:)
Your help is much appreciated

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101489850_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101489850_large.jpg)

Ok here are some modifiacation i made to the body and some more refinements i think i will stay like this now and keep on to the texturing

[uwil]

nice modeling Vagelis, love to see him textured!:thumbsup: model on!

[adr]

Hello Vagelis looking better with the tweaks , the feet are great , three finger are better than two , your progress is quite good man , keep going:thumbsup:

[artemesia66]

Great and epic story. Lots to pull off in the time left, but it looks like you model fast, so i look forward to seeing where you go with it.

[SUN]

:thumbsup: Hello Vagelis very very nice Alien :thumbsup:
Best wishes...:)

[Lelantos]

SUN, artemesia66, uwil : Thank you all for the support this encourages me to continue:bounce:

adr : Yes three finger are better than 2 wont make him with little fingers again:thumbsup:

I really hate uvmapping so much time to map the charachter right :sad:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101673070_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101673070_large.jpg)

Ok here it is final details added now must finish the texuring

[ARSA]

yeah! show some textures!

-cheers

[terraarc]

Pretty nice details on the model, and the toe count works better this way! :thumbsup:

Happy texturing! :arteest:

[overcontrast]

hey great works on the character maan... keep up teh good works...i'll b back for more updates :thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

ARSA, terraarc, overcontrast thanx for all replies haven't made much updates didn't have time to work but today i am going to do a lot of stuff (i hope)

glup glup(drinking speed potion):D

[mmoir]

Lelantos,

I like your story idea , I do think you are going to have to concentrate on the buildings and enviroment to make your image work. I like your creature model,very original , I would like an even cuvier face to the creature.
Good luck with this.
Mike
My GSO entry
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=180886

[adr]

Nice update Vagelis , hope to see more today . :wip: :wip: Keep on rockin

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101847834_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101847834_large.jpg)

Ok here it is a first atempt on texturing unfortunatelly i have some hardware problems so i had to render low quality and without displaycement.
But its ok works good and like that except the hard edges

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101848350_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101848350_large.jpg)

these are the textures i used

[Lelantos]

mmoir : Yes you are right i have to concentrate on the buildings and environment but i haven't decided yet on the architecture of the buildings so i leave that for later...

adr : Thanx adr. More updates coming


I think i will do more modelling now and leave texturing for later since i still have problems on my computer.

[greentek]

oooo.. nice texturing Vagelis! :thumbsup:
i like a lot your curly-headed alien.. :D
keep it up mate and cheers.. :beer:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101853215_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101853215_large.jpg)

Still needs fabrick

[Lelantos]

Thanx man i hit him many times in the head to become like this :D

Ok here are some clothing with the colors and some minor texturing

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101858059_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1101858059_large.jpg)

Started modelling the spaceship hope you like it

[Virtuoso]

vagelis....................I think you are putting some good effort here,I can see and feel yourpassion,your love for this.I think for you this challenge will be important for you to finish,see a deadline through with your plans,as you intented,and get as much experience as you can as you go.I think your attitude is very good,and with this you will get where you want in time.just keep working at it,keep at it strong,it will all come as you wish it too soon......:thumbsup: :)

[terraarc]

You are moving fast and on the right track Vagelis! :thumbsup:
Nice textures on your alien! I would play a little more with the speculars on your textures...
Nice start on the Spaceship too!

Keep it up!

:beer:

[Kaksht]

Hi there Vagelis!
Nice fella youve modeled here, textures look great, maybe the golden armor is a little bit to shiny. And the ship looks awesome, something like a hawk, very original design, thumbs up!

[Lelantos]

Kaksht, terraarc: thanx for the suggestion, yes you are right about specular and armor need some refinments but i can't do anything right now i can't test it every time i render i get error :sad: so i just model for now till i fix that.


Virtuoso : thanx for all the good words really appreciated.


haven't made any update yet i was working till late yesterday i will try to finish with the ship later today
thanx everyone you really give me a boost to continue

[jddog]

Lelantos... the concept and the first wip images of your space ship is absolutely wonderful, great idea :thumbsup: Waiting for more, I'm sure this will come really goot out !!!

Great alien and yep with the barefooted is really really better :applause:

jdd

[Nomad]

Thats a nice alien you have here, I like your biological design :thumbsup:

Keep up the good work :bounce:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102016016_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102016016_large.jpg)

Ok i did some changes to the model but still needs lot of work hope to have more time tommorow

[Lelantos]

jddog: Thanx man glad everyones like the three finger on alien

Nomad: thanx for good word and for visiting

i have changed the back of the ship hope u like it c&c are welcome

[MattGyver]

Hey. I finally got a chance to stop by and check out your work. I like it. The alien looks good. It's a good mix of traditional alien with original ideas. The ships are really impressive. It kind of reminds me of steamships built around organics. All in all, I really like it. No crits as of yet, but I'll keep on the lookout for something. There's gotta be something! :D Later.

[Divaise]

;) HEY bro the alien is very unusuall I like that kind of stuff. It's different than the other creatures. Wish ya luck ! :) Ciao

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102110728_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102110728_large.jpg)

This is final model of the spaceship more details will be added with texturing since it will be far from camera i dont want to make it very detailed

[Virtuoso]

Hey Ok,looking good Vagelis,,,,,I like your effort,and the results are coming out nice.Keep working hard,it's paying off.........:thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

MattGyver: Thanx for checking and for the good word:)

Divaise: Thanx man

I am going to model some more aliens for my scene and texture them at work later.

[Lelantos]

Virtuoso: Thank you for the support man means lot to me:)

[arturro]

sweet! the final model is very nice. It has it's own mood and I like it! I wonder how it will look textured:)

[adr]

Nice update my friend , the model looks really cool with nice shape , very clean mesh . Lets wait for more updates :thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

Arturo, Adr : thank you guys more updates coming
texturing i hope to start tomorow i will format my computer to see if render will work after the format i hope so.

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102168634_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102168634_large.jpg)

Ok started to model the shair tribe when i finish i will make to both charachters some refinements and variations in sizes, charachteristics and clothing.

[angel]

hey, the alien is cool but that ship is super cool. Love that ship.

[mr_carl]

Awsome ship :buttrock:

Carl.

[Aethyrprime]

wow Vagelis really great aliens. They look ancient yet advanced. The ship design you did is very organic feeling which I personally love. Excellent work friend. Keep at it. Things are coming along nicely.

[terraarc]

Pretty nice progress neighbour! :thumbsup:
The ship looks great and original! With some textures it will surely look great!

The start on the alien is looking nice and pretty efficient polywise! :)

Nice going keep it up!!

:wavey:

[Lelantos]

SNoWs,mr_carl, ||) |V| |^|, terraarc : thank you all for good words i am very glad you liked ship and alien :)

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102287089_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102287089_large.jpg)

Ok here is the second alien with body
c&c are welcome hope you like it

[arturro]

wow! He must have been training for a long time:bounce: Very nice! How did you make those lighter areas on him? have you unwraped him and is this a painted texture? or you have a trick for that:twisted: ?

[greentek]

really wow..
your alien guy looks fantastic Vagelis..!:thumbsup:
great job mate..!
cheers.. :beer:

[Lelantos]

arturro: Actually last weekend i learned how zbrush works its really a very good tool. this is actually an automatic displaycement that has been painted over. ofcourse i had to unwarp first the alien in maya and then import it to zbrush and create the displaycement.

its really easy now to create a final texture for him since i have actually the base.:thumbsup:


greentek: Thanks mate appreciated love your stuff also :thumbsup:

[Divaise]

hey Lelantos wazzup my bro I see your progress it's cool man I like that alien a lot only the eyes looks strange to me but I'm sure you gonna make some changes ! :thumbsup: GL Ciao :P

[terraarc]

Hey there Lelantos! Moving waaaayyyy to fast mate! :thumbsup:

Nice new alien! This one is really pretty and "testosteroned" compared to the first one! :D LOL!

Waiting for more!
:wavey:

[tikson]

Hi, Lelantos,

I like your spaceship model very much, but let me give some critics on aliens. For me his bottom looks way too small and musculature needs some adjustment. Yes, it is alien from another world and he can be different, but if you make it partly humanlike, you need also human proportions. It's not easy. Modelling different creatures is really hard task, i've not tried it myself yet... You should take a look at caricatures (I mean good ones). There you can find guidelines how to modify proportions.

And one thing more. The face of alien looks a bit too plain for me. Maybe you can perform just some tiny surface modifications on face to add some makeup or character, but this is just for you to decide.

Go on - you make good work :thumbsup:.

[Lelantos]

Divaise: Yes the eyes need some fix but its very hard to modify them:banghead: oh man i will try.

terraarc: :) Yes he is a little more muscular than the average alien

tikson: yes you have right about themusculature of the alien i am making some refinements right now
About the face i have made some changes but not much is still plain i think i like it this way ofcourse the bump texture is not yet ready so many details will be added there.

thanx for the comments and good words much appreciated.:thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

ops duplicate post sory

[arturro]

I can't wait to see him textured. I have just finished the texturing of the last vehicle and have a break from it:) I want to see your alien texturing, because I will do it soon when I will model my aliens. Check out my vehicle, I'm curious what do you think

[rattlesnake]

i really love the design for your space ship it looks very organic and futurist...very cool man!!
i like your characters... i want to see when theyre done...so ill be watchin man...good work!

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102378515_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102378515_large.jpg)

Ok made some modification to the botom and head to musculs etc. i think it better now still no modification to the eyes

[Lelantos]

arturro: thanx mate from tommorow i will be starting and texturing also. I will be checking for your aliens your ships rock:buttrock:

rattlesnake: thanx man appreciated....

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102381391_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102381391_large.jpg)

Ok here is one of the buildings with some minor texturing comments are welcome

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102433508_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102433508_large.jpg)

Ok this is one of the creatures that will fly near the spaceships it will be driven by one shair.
Hope you like it. I am starting texturing alll models i created so far today.

[arturro]

Yap! it's about time to texture something:) the creature looks very nice. I like you smooth modeling. with the building it looks strange, simple shape with complicated legs, gut it's promising... I think that the success of it will depend on texturing.

[overcontrast]

hey nice creature there u got mate... so are they gonna look like that or u still working on those... i really liked the style of it, but i dont really like that mouth... u might try making it more whaleish, or even better is too give it a bottle-nose dolphin look... btw nice textureing.. keep on going bddy.. ur doing awesome.!! :thumbsup:

[greentek]

hi Vagelis..
you're moving fast mate..! cool updates..! :thumbsup:
and you're very creative btw.. very original models.. though you'll need to spend a lot of time texturing such curved shapes..
great work my friend..! :thumbsup:
kepp it going and cheers.. :beer:

[JamesMK]

Oh, I like that flying creature :thumbsup: Very cool design, like a disproportioned whale somehow... very cool indeed.

[artemesia66]

Very beautiful and organic. One thing bothers me: the narrow piece that connects the tail to the body doesn't look big enough to support it or to contain enough muscle to move it. Now maybe if the tail is going to be a very thin, translucent thing it would seem different.

Keep going!

[Lelantos]

arturro: Thanx man yes the succes will be made from the textures i hope to make it look good else i will have to add some detail on the building

overcontrast:yep still working on that but wont post yet i want to finish and the texturing. i will make the mouth more whaleish i like it beter that way. thanx for the tip much appreciated:thumbsup:

greentek: Oh my texturing wish i had some way to make that easy. Yes it will be a suffering procces for me. But i like it:twisted:

JamesMK: thank you man:)

artemesia66: actually i am adding some more wings that will be transparent and will float more than the others one and you are right i must add some musculare over there. thanx for the notice:thumbsup:

Thank you all for the comments i will try to finish some texturing tonight (hope so, if i dont get sleep).

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Like your last post man...give it a belly to the point under the eyes and little back more...it will give it some more volume... :bounce: :bounce: :) ...keep it up.. :thumbsup:

[terraarc]

Nice updates man! :thumbsup:
Strange flying creature: whale-leafed-fish..... is what I see....:applause:

Keep it up that fast! :bounce:

[Lelantos]

DimitrisLiatsos: good point i am on it thanx man.:thumbsup:
terraarc: thanks mate:)

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102509028_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102509028_large.jpg)

Ok i have dome some texturing to the creature the black areas are actually transpancy so dont be alert.

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102509194_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102509194_large.jpg)

Ok i put this because i need some opinions do you like this or should i make it the texture less detailed but more accurate details.

[terraarc]

Nice work mate! :thumbsup:

The coloring on the sship is good in my opinion. I think you should add some color variations on the ship. Some lights, windows etc...

The creature looks awsome, maybe doing some color shifting to another color..to break all these browny textures.....just a thought...:shrug:

Keep it strong file!!!

:beer:

[Lelantos]

yes i think you are right for the ship looks (poor) like that i will add some more details

i will make some coloring in the creature and post it

[ARSA]

Haya! mate! nice job you have done here! My suggestion is regarding the texturing of the ship, I dont really care about the patter, but you have to brake it somehow, add dust and stuff like that, in overlay mode if you are using photoshop, this might help. One thing I do always is to go really low in the hue/saturation (saturation) of the textures, and then increment the saturation as needed. For example, your model looks like a new toy (IMO) add variations of teh overall color in different layer styles, remember not to go heavy on the difference because this will cause your model to look very dirty and noisy. I will suggest adding some and post an image, then add some more, and post another image, so we can see the variation and the different stages without causing an impact to our sight :D!

If this is aorganic ship, then add some pieces of organic stuff, veins like cables and stuff like that.

-cheers! Keep the good work mate! :wavey:

EDIT: Sorry I forgot to mention something else... your light situation is killing the model, you have really dark shadows right now, and you want us to be able to see the whole model, like a showcase, then you can remove those lights and add the lights of the enviroament!

[Lelantos]

Thank you for the comments man much appreciated:thumbsup:
i am adding some cables and stuff to the ship hope that will make it look better.

and sory about the dark shadows you are right shouldnt made them so dark.

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102521217_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102521217_large.jpg)

Ok added some more color here

[arturro]

Very nice my friend! I would advice to use some bump map to simulate some skin pattern... it looks too smooth now.. or go in the other direction, and don't add bump, but make the skin "wet" I'm looking forward for the next updates!

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102544759_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102544759_large.jpg)

Added some more details to the ship and changed texture a little

[Lelantos]

Arturo: actually i have bump but very low depth so i think make the skin wet maybe works better, thanx for advice man appreciated.

[arturro]

The ship looks awsome man! I love it! I would only make the brown part brighter, or maybe do som etests with grey metalic...
great progress! I'm with you and wait for next updates:twisted:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102547920_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102547920_large.jpg)

ok opened the brown areas a little.

[Lelantos]

thanx for following this man really appreciated:thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102548158_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102548158_large.jpg)

here is the creature with some glow added hope you like it .

[graga]

beautiful! really beautiful! I love the texture of this flying creature:applause: it's great!! Can you give some tips for the begginer on how to make such nice glowing material?

[ARSA]

Very interesting glow you got there mate! I will suggest adding bones or nerves like detail... such glow mus cause the skin to get a bit translucent :)

U are rocking man!

Regarding your ship... There is one thing bothering me the most... I think the ship is way too clean and its also "shiny" "specularity is too high" Add some scratches at the bottom oand sides of the ship, I bet some meteors hit that thing while surfing the space.

Keep the good work mate!

-cheers!

[ARSA]

I thought of something else...

this time for the creatures, add some sort of "scales" like bump map, use the same map for the specularity! that will give that creature a really nice touch!

The one you have is fine with me, I just thought about this!

-cheers!

[Lelantos]

graga: Actually this was created with glow inside maya.
I created a texture spacifying wich parts of the creature i wanted to glow and import it to the glow tab inside the shader, i adjust the glow by making lighter or brighter the image. Hope that helps.

thank you for the good words.

Arsa: Yes you are right i have to make that ship less shiny and i will add some more dust and scratches to the ship.

i will try that for specularity at the creature and see what i can do for the translucent i will do some tests.thanx for the tip:)

thanks mate advices appreciated.:thumbsup:

oh my i still have so much work to do and so little time left:sad:

[terraarc]

Nice touch ups man! :thumbsup:
The ship's texture is more accurate this way, but can't tell the size (From some certain aspects it looks like "tzitziki"!! Sorry, don't know this word in English..)

The creature is good too and I think ARSA's idea will look fine with it...

Keep it strong (as you do)!!

:)

[shotta]

:buttrock: nice modeling and texture great work keep on workin´.:thumbsup:

[jddog]

Heila the turtle space ship texturing is wonderful and the last creature image look really cool :thumbsup: like it a lot !

jdd

[BartokDesign]

You have some great creatures in here dude.

keep the good work.

:scream:

[enochian]

Nice scene layout, very expansive and active.

[enochian]

Do I see a Half-life 2 influence of the ship design? It a very interesting idea to use creatures outside of their natural environment and to think of them as machines. Looking good great textures and movement in the models.

[3D-ima Green]

nice nice! :)
real cool spaceship, i like it!
what render are you using? and what program?
keep it up dude!

[grayspace]

Look forward to seeing your composition come together, the elements you have now are very fluid and organic.

Gray

[Crusty_Butt]

Lelantos,

Good to see your work! I like the colors shapes and textures of everything you have posted so far. Keep the updates coming, I'm subscribed to your thread now and will definitly keep an eye on it.

Good luck!

Bret

[Lelantos]

Many replies now :eek:

terraarc: Yes man you are right looks like tzitziki lol can't do anything for that right now this will be more accurate in composition. thanx for the notice:thumbsup:

shotta: thanx man.

enochian: i haven't played yet half life :sad: and i really want to play i like this kind of games got to check it.

3D-ima Green:thank you, using the default renderer of maya but at the final composition i will use mental ray.

BartokDesign, grayspace, jddog, Crusty_Butt: thank you all for replies and good words this really keeps me going :bounce:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102611719_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102611719_large.jpg)

ok this is it made it with more rust on it i think looks better now.

[uwil]

hi Vagelis, nice texture update.... the rust looks good, and maybe bit of bump? otherwise it's nice effort.:thumbsup:

[Lelantos]

i added some bump but didn't look that good i think i must refixed the bumpmapping
anyway i leave it for the end if i have the time now i must proceed with the rest of the models or else i am not going to be ready at the end.

now i am creating the charachters to look better and then will start some basic buildings.

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102618632_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102618632_large.jpg)

ok some primitive modelling on the clothes still WIP

[overcontrast]

hey wow nice progress.!!.. that ship is looking awesome....i think there is a slight problem with the texture in the rare end of the thrusters...anyways the color and the designing is one of a kind.. nice organic style... and abt the character, it looks good man... through some wrincle on the cloth... wish u luck mate... keep up the amazing works :thumbsup:

[ARSA]

I see pretty updates... how did I missed that last 2 updates... have been working too much, time to go home! :D


Well the ship looks really cool now mate, good variation in the colors. I dont think you are using a strong bump map, I think it will add some minor details and make it look even cooler.

For the guy. Add some wrinkles to the clothing, unless is latex clothing :)
His boots are way too squared at the front... you might look into that...

great updates keep it up!

[Eagle_e7]

Hi Vagelis.

Some great work here, I love the flying creature and your ship. :)

Your guy is coming along nicely aswell, a couple of things worth mentioning would be adding some wrinkles and rounding off the boots as ARSA mentioned. Also I'm not sure if it's just me but the hands seem to be at a strange angle.

Excellent work so far though, keep it up! :)

[Lelantos]

overcontrast: thanx mate i am going to fix that on the thrusters. Wrinkles on clothes and i am so bad at wrinkles:sad: must find good reference for that. thanx for the coments:thumbsup:

ARSA: m 2 mate must go sleep:thumbsup: this is exhausting. Yes bump i am on it just refining it a little at photoshop. Wrinkles wrinkles oh my those wrinkles :D. boots still not ready much refining to do i might even don't use them at all i don't know something not right over there.
thanx mate all advices appreciated

Eagle_e7: Yes the hands are a little in a strange angle but this will be fixed at rigging. Thanx for notcing that.:thumbsup:

i am going to do my last post for today need to sleep now really tired

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102636543_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102636543_large.jpg)

add some wrinkles not much need more wrinkle to be added. Boots not ready yes

[arturro]

Yeah! he looke great! I only don't like his shoues, they seem too squary for my. Very nice design of his clothes! I'm waiting for the textured version mate! Keep the level up:thumbsup:

[redneckstudio]

I love the uniqueness of the characters and vehicles. I'm interested in seeing the final piece.

[terraarc]

Hello Lelantos! The new alien guy looks more imperial with this clothes! :thumbsup: I also find the shoes a little to boxy for my taste, but that's just my opinion....

Waiting for more! :)

[Virtuoso]

He is coming along vagelis..............I think you can round of the shoes a touch,as well as give the arms(Biceps) a more tapered flow to the elbow......I can see that you are moving in a good direction,and growing as you go........The best thing is you moving towards finishing,and giving this the required efforts,and with this kind of postive attitude and excellent work ethic you will reach your goals soon........Keep going hard and with great spirits as you have done.....I will be watching for more,all the best Vagelis..................:thumbsup: :arteest:

[theuni]

Hi Vagelis,

I like your idea can`t wait to see you putting the models in the final scene...
Oh I fell in love with your floating creature...

[Lelantos]

arturro:thanx man:thumbsup: i will do today the shoes i dont know if i wil use those or create some new ones i think i might do new ones the shoes i have right now dont fit very good

kntemplar: thank you :)

terraarc: yes they are a little boxe thank you for the comment:thumbsup:

Virtuoso: well as give the arms(Biceps) a more tapered flow to the elbow.....i haven't noticed that i will go fix it thanx for the comments much appreciated and thank you for all the good words:thumbsup:

theuni:Thank you. that creature came out nice didn't it:D

[johnny3d]

good, good, good, you work is the best, i like your model, the aliens is original. :thumbsup:

[mmoir]

Lelantos,
The model and texture on you ship looks great, good job. The Shair character looks good , once you add more wrinkles(they are tough to do I know) he will look great too. The one thing I notice is the face of the character should be a little more defined IMO. Maybe a cheekbone or eyesockets, something that will let the character show emotion.
Great job on this.:thumbsup:
Mike
My GSO entry
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=180886

[ArtisticVisions]

Very different, organic-style to your models than a lot of other entries I've seen. (really like your flying creature designs; almost has a "Dune"-quality to them)

Your latest alien..... I don't know, but something about the eyes really throws off the character for me (but I can't explain why it does that). Also, maybe it's just the angle, but I think the left leg is showing through the skirt a little bit (near the thigh).

[Lelantos]

johnny3d: :thumbsup:

ArtisticVisions, mmoir: I am on it making those changes i am redesigning the face adding eyes etc. thanks for the advice:thumbsup:

Haven't made anything for 2 days now so today i must catch up i must finish at least with the 2 charachters and rigging........ Thanks to all people following my thread you all give me a boost to continue:bounce:

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102874683_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102874683_large.jpg)

Ok i fixed many parts of the Alien and put eye fixed arms and breast etc.
Also pls tell me if you like the old or new texture better.

[arturro]

I love it! It's more mystic and has makes a stronger mood around. great!

[keetmun]

Your texturing is coming along really really nice man! Although I felt you could work a bit more on his palms, they look a little flat right now. But anything goes, since texturing has already started. Maybe you can check that when you have more time.

Cheers!
:buttrock:

[icedeyes]

Hey vag.... I reallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy love the spaceship's texture man as i already told you... The alien looks nice but i have one remark.. The face looks quite more simplistic compared to the rest of the concept but sometimes less is more so if that is where you want to take it, go for it.... Nice work overall

[mmoir]

Lelantos,
I like the face of this version much better than the previous one, he looks much more alive to me now.
Great changes here.:thumbsup:
Mike

[Aethyrprime]

nice job texturing this creature. I like the bumps and details on his face. Beyond the skin, I agree on working on the hands a bit when you get some time. The outfit textures are coming along nicely I am eager to see how this pans out on completion. Keep at it.

[Lelantos]

arturro: Yes i had to rebuild the textures many changes have been done

keetmun: Worked on palms and will post them thanx for the notice:thumbsup:

icedeyes: Yes i didn't want to make him with a lot of details i like this kind of faces but i have a the creature still to create there will be lot of details there :D

mmoir: Thanks Mike appreciated:thumbsup:

||) |V| |^|: Thanks man hands are ready now and i will post them.

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102969551_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102969551_large.jpg)

Ok fixed and the hands and i added added again the clothes i will try to finish with the texturing of the clothes now.

[arturro]

In my opinion he should have much contrast on his clothing. I mean some very dark colors, and light(I would make only his yellowish part light, and the rest dark). Only a hoi thought:)

[Lelantos]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102970573_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/5309/5309_1102970573_large.jpg)

Here she is the woman of his dreams
with a small variation in colors the female shair clothes are still in WIP

[Lelantos]

arturro Your thought is seriously considered i will check that how it works i think it will be good thanx man

[Climax]

• Hey Vagelis, The spaceship is really super it looks like an stylized whale and its textures are really amazing, the aliens look very original too, are they some kind of reptiloids? You should try some bumps in their skin and reduce specularity

• i think this is my first time in your thread...I don't know why, but now I'll come more frecuently to push u out and give u the encouragement as you have done in mine ;)

• Keep the hard work! :wip: :wip: :thumbsup:

[terraarc]

Hello Vagelis! You are actually flying here! No more running clise! :bounce:

I prefer too the new take on textures and agree with fellow CG-talker Climax on giving some depth to the texture...saturation and bump would work that way (8elei porous to derma....)

You're really giving "whole lotta love" to your work all the way....and it is a long way! :thumbsup:

[Eagle_e7]

Hi Vagelis. :)

Some more great work here, I agree with the others about adding a bump/spec map to the texture. Are the markings on her face paint? if so maybe you could add some chips and cracks to it?

keep up the great work! :)

[Lelantos]

Climax: Yes i need to add bump saturation in texturing still learning stuff in texturing but i think i go on the right track here thank you for the comment:thumbsup:

terraarc: Yes you are right also about bump and saturation (prospathw na petyxw swsta tous porous elpizw na to kataferw.).
Thanks for all good words :thumbsup:

Eagle_e7: Actually i will put some more bump on the markings and i think they will look better thanx man:)

No updates today i am stuck at work:sad: hope tommorow to have some more

[userBrian]

Nice work. Interesting to see how you get counciled to fully finish
one model before going onto the next, or jumping arround. Makes me really
wonder what your composition and final will look like...

my 3d GSO entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=179803)

[uwil]

very nice texturing job on both Vagelis... keep going.

[Lelantos]

Thank you guys you really give me a boost here :thumbsup:

Today i will try to finish with those characthers need to start the building if i want to finish on time

[artemesia66]

Looking good Lelantos. I like how well you've kept the male and the female looking like they're from the same species. I wonder if their specular sheen isn't a bit smooth, though--the noisy colour of thier skin makes me think they'd be bumpier--they look kind of shiny. keep up the great work :thumbsup:

[vrhead]

cool stuff .. i like your entry.. your aliens kinda remind me a little bit of the ones from AI.. atleast the glowy part... cool stuff keep it coming =)

[theuni]

Hi Lelantos,

I like the coloring of your models... looks real alien style :thumbsup: Did you plan to leave the specular level of the skin that way?

[Aethyrprime]

Happy New year man, Keep at it the end is near! Go for gold!

[terraarc]

Hello Vagelis!

Happy new year mate!!!

(background song: "Xristougenna...Prwtougenna...prwth giorth tou xronouuuu" greek christmas song...)

Wishing the best on this new year!! The best on your efforts....and the best for your works!!:thumbsup:

[keetmun]

Work is progressing well! I would suggest putting in bump maps on your models, maybe you haven't done it yet, 'cause right now the skin looks really smooth.

Cheers, and have a very Happy New Year!:buttrock: :beer: :beer:

[Lelantos]

Happy new year to alll:bounce:


Unfortunatelly i dont think i will be able to finish i had been missing to long for christmas and there is only one week left and i have also to work now so :sad: i dont think i can get to the end with the contest thank you all for your support, and wish you best luck in the contest

[terraarc]

Welcome back mate...:)
Quite a pity not to make it to the deadline....hope you'll finish your vision even after challenge....I have some same problems here too....so I'm trying my best to catch up with it...If I don't make it to the deadline I'll continue 'till my final composition....

Wishing the best for the year just came....and waiting for some updates...whenever you're ready :thumbsup:

Oti epi8umeis....pantws einai krima na to afhseis sth mesh.....dwstou ki oti ginei!! Se ka8e periptwsh kerdizeis....:thumbsup:

[MattGyver]

Hey. Sorry to hear you don't think you'll be able to finish in time. But you have a great concept. I'd love to see it finished even if it's not for the challenge. Never give up! :thumbsup:

[jddog]

ho... sad about that you can't finish it... but a big :thumbsup: for all your work man !!!

jdd

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