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Don_Barro
11-20-2004, 04:01 AM
Hi ya folks!
well im here becouse i need some critics and tips for my drawing that im planing to paint further in photoshop!

any tips about, anatomy, composition any thing i really want to learn!

well i used a pentel 0.5 and taked about 1 hour to make it

I will ask u guys to forgive me becouse my scanner was attacked by ants (yes it really was!!)
and its not functioning well so i hade to take a digital picture of the image

well the it goes:

http://pessoal.sercomtel.com.br/kakaroto/principecaido.JPG

Sunbane
11-20-2004, 09:54 PM
Hehe, ants just love scanners! ;o)

You have an interesting motif there! The perspective looks a little boring (straight from the side), but you can compensate that to some degree with a cool background, or some things in the foreground - to make the composition more dynamic.

I really like your poses, with all the little details you've put in - one of those is the broken foot of the rightmost character; it adds a lot of story and implied action to the picture - very good. There are other things that don't look as realistic though: I find it a little odd that the left guy is staring straight into the chest of his victim. Also, I don't think a bred fighter would hold his free hand behind his victim's back, because it would make him vulnerable as long as his opponent is alive. It would probably be more natural for him to grab hold of his clothing at the front (or his neck), and pull him onto the blade. That way, if the victim makes a last fighting effort, he has better chances of defending himself.

It's a very cool sketch. Now go do something good with it! ^_~

Don_Barro
11-20-2004, 11:49 PM
hey sunbane thanks for the reply!!!

well, i am a very poor in composition, and angle choose, what angle is best to remake this skecth some that i would get more dinamism?

do u think the anatomy is ok?

Is the perspective ov the legs and arms right?


just for curiosity:
my HP I n v "A" n t

http://pessoal.sercomtel.com.br/kakaroto/hpinvant.jpg

Sunbane
11-21-2004, 10:43 AM
just for curiosity:
my HP I n v "A" n t

http://pessoal.sercomtel.com.br/kakaroto/hpinvant.jpg
Whoa!! O_o That is some radical ant invasion!
I think I read somewhere that ants (and many other predatory insects) are attracted to electronic appliances - especially those with high frequencies, such as computers. Because they read the electronic fields as the sign of struggling prey.

Back to the drawing:

Composition is tough sometimes, but the only way to get better at it, is to experiment and practice. Think of what you want to portray in the picture: Which person in the picture is more important to you? The victor, or the dying prince? If the prince is the focal point of the artwork, then it might be a good idea to show him more from the front, so you can show off his facial expression. This however, would mean that you can't show the face of the victorious warrior. If the expressions of both characters are equally important, the sideview that you currently have is probably better.

You also have the option of using either birds-eye view or frogs-eye view. These are great tools for making a composition more dynamic. In frogs-eye view, the subjects often appear elevated, powerful, majestic, overwhelming, threatening, or significant. The beholder is "looking up" at the scene. In birds-eye view, the opposite is true: The subjects appear small, human, insignificant, etc. It's all about what qualities you want to put into the scene. Do you want to make a sentimental piece of a grand prince's dying moment, then choose frogs-eye view, and show the prince more from the front. If you want to make the artwork portray the useless cruelty of war, use birds-eye view and maybe show the assailant from the front, with his snarling "battle face". There are a great number of compositional tricks you can use to tell the story differently.

The straight-on sideview that you currently have, is a lot more neutral. Both characters appear equally important to the story, and no particular values are put into the picture, but the viewer is free to make his/her own reflections about the motif.

But you don't necessarilly need to redraw this sketch. You can make up for the flat perspective by putting the event into an interesting environment. Think about where the event is taking place. Are they alone on a mountain top somewhere, or are there people around, watching? It's a good thing to add depth to the picture, by having something near in the background (a big rock, a house, or people), and then some far-away background (a horizon with mountains?). If this is a duel, then maybe you could add people in the background looking on with excited/horrified faces, and maybe some people in the foreground (at the edges of the picture). If this is in the midst of a grand battle, there would probably be fighting people all around these two.

About the anatomy:
The anatomy looks very good on both subjects. Maybe the lower torso of the prince should be higher up(?) - I get the feeling that his upper body is longer/taller than his lower body (legs). But that's the only thing I can find to comment on. It's a very good drawing.

I hope I have given you some ideas. =)

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