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[Nolita]

Excuse my ignorance of Illustrator(other than the magazine I'm at a loss). Are you asking if there's a way to paint/draw vector shapes? Bezier curves with handles, etc.? At this point Jinny would ask what version you're using, and if you have all the updates installed. Unfortunately for you, I'm not Jinny. Still I think I can help a bit.

If my hunch is correct and you want to make bezier shapes, you can. Just use the pen tool, I myself can't even wrap my brain around why a bezier shapes tool would be included in a "natural media" application, but who am I? I'm nobody. So from what I hear it's not as good as the bezier tools in Illustrator, to find out in what way(s) you'll have to ask someone who uses both.

Sorry, I rambled right off topic for a sec. Anyway there's a tool in Painter that makes bezier curves, and it's called the pen tool. I personally don't think of it as a brush.

[Jinbrown]

hello there

i just whant to ask

is there an artestic brush like the one in adobe illustaitor ?

a stroks

:)
Hi,

From what I can gather, reading Illustrator 9 Help, the brush in Illustrator is named Art Brush and it's created based on an existing vector object, or an existing vector brushstroke.

You won't be able to do exactly that in Painter, since Painter's brushes are not vector based.

However, you can create almost any custom brush variant you can dream up, including brush variants for which the brush dab is based on an image.

In addition, you can paint using the Pattern Pens variants making a brushstroke based on the current Pattern or an image specified as the current Clone Source.

You can also create Nozzles to use with the Image Hose brush category and paint a series of images with each brushstroke.

The possiblities are nearly unlimited.

If you can either explain in detail what you want to do or, better yet, show us an example or two, we might be able to help.

[Jinbrown]

I myself can't even wrap my brain around why a bezier shapes tool would be included in a "natural media" application, but who am I? I'm nobody.
Painter's Shape and Shape editing tools are used in many ways, Nolita, and used by artists who are mainly doing Painting as well as graphic artists, web artists, and no doubt architectural illustrators, medical illustrators, childrens' book illustrators, and many other artists doing many other kinds of work.

Painter's Shape tools include:

Pen
Quick Curve (freehand drawing)
Rectangular Shape
Oval Shape

Painter's Shape editing tools include:

Shape Selection
Scissors
Add Point
Remove Point
Convert Point

The Pen tool and Shape editing tools can be used to draw a precise line around a detailed area of an image, that might be difficult using the Lasso tool. Then the Shape can be converted to a selection, saved, and will then be listed in the Channels palette where it can be loaded again as a selection any time it's needed. Or, the Alpha Channel can be edited just as a Layer Mask is edited, by painting with black or white.

Painter's Text Layers (Painter 7, Painter 8, and Painter IX) can be converted to Shapes, then edited with the Shape editing tools to form very different looking characters.

Painter 6 and earlier version Text appears in the Layers list as individual characters, or parts of characters (i.e. the dot on a letter "i" and the bottom of the letter "i") that are all Painter Shapes and do not need to be converted to Shapes. These Text Shapes can also be edited with the Shape editing tool to form very different looking characters.

Those Text Shapes can then be converted to Selections and filled with color, painted, applied to Layers, and treated like any other selected area of an image, including being treated with Painter's Effects menu options. Effects > Surface Control > Apply Texture is a good example, where a 3D look can be applied to a Text Selection or Reflection can be applied using either the current Pattern or an image specified as the current Clone Source.

Any Shape can be directly converted to a Default Layer, and treated like any other pixel based imagery.

There are probably other uses for Painter's Shape tools and Shape editing tools, that I'm not thinking of at the moment.

I can say, that I'm very glad those tools are available in Painter as I use them frequently.


So from what I hear it's not as good as the bezier tools in Illustrator, to find out in what way(s) you'll have to ask someone who uses both.
Since Illustrator is a vector program, of course it's technology in that area is more developed and versatile than that of Painter, just as Painter's brush technology is pixel based and provides possibilities not available in Illustrator.

The program, or combination of programs to be used will depend mainly on what those programs offer, on what the artist wants to accomplish, and on what the artist prefers to use.


Anyway there's a tool in Painter that makes bezier curves, and it's called the pen tool. I personally don't think of it as a brush. You're right not to think of any of the Painter Shape tools as brushes. They're not. They are vector based tools.

Painter's brushes are pixel based drawing and painting "tools". Actually there's one drawing and painting tool, the Brush tool, found in the Tools palette. The brush variants are collections of brush control settings, organized into brush categories, like Airbrushes, Pens, Oils, Chalks, Charcoal, Water Color, Digital Watercolor, and many more, too many to name here.

[ibrahim.x]

thanks everyone

but dont get to a fight :(

and the answer to my Q is :

no !!!

[Jinbrown]

ibrahim.x,

No need to worry. Nolita and I are old friends and we're exchanging information in order to help you.

We could have simply typed "No." and you'd not have had the opportunity to know what could be done using Painter, if you wanted to use Painter.

Since there was no way for us to know if you might like to use Painter, we both decided to give you the information and let you decide.


Cheers!

[kraal]

um i might be reading wrong but could he be actually asking about the 'image hose'?

[Jinbrown]

kraal,

I doubt he was asking about the Image Hose brush category and Nozzles because if he knew about them he wouldn't have needed to ask the question. ;)

Seriously.. I know what you meant.

I suggested that as one of the options in Painter in my earlier message.

He posted a very short response to our suggestions saying something like "In other words, the answer to my question is 'No' ."

Oh well, at least we've exchanged some information that might help another member along the way.

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