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zabdul
11-09-2004, 09:20 PM
Hi All,
As I mentioned on another thread earlier today - my new Paiter 9 crashed on me. Luckily the files didn't corrupt and I had recently saved (2 versions). However, when I opened the art - the color settings had completely changed. :banghead: Nowhere did it ask for a different type of setting, it just came in completely altered. Funny thing is - the way it altered was the same color change I get when I open a .psd file I've been working on in Painter back in Photoshop (Photoshop gives me three color settings to choose from when I pull art back in. Not importing color settings always seems to give me the trueest look). I ALWAYS have to color adjust. So, I end up with different colors depending on which monitor I'm looking at (I have dual), which program I'm in (Photoshop or Painter) and now, depending on when I open the file in Painter (when the program stayed open from last time to opening a file after restarting a crashed Painter). Too many variables! I have no idea what I'm looking at. My art is all for cmyk print and highly illustrative, so this is a big deal. Any ideas about what's going on, or what I can do about it?
Thanks,
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Arjo
11-10-2004, 07:52 PM
I always choose not to use any color management while working on a file switching between different applications. Only in the last step before sending to printingservice I convert the file to Adobe98 profile (my printservice uses the same profile). By default Painter saves a profile with the file. By changing the settings in the "canvas/colormanagement". I could get rid of this.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~joly/short/painter.png

Hope this helps.
Arjo.
brenly
11-11-2004, 01:03 AM
Ive never printed from Painter thankfully. I have found that painter isnt very accurate with colors. I have found small deviations in color that were unexpected, very small. Photoshop is much more accurate, which it should be. I would be suprised if the colors remained exact when importing and exporting between the programs. You have to allow for some small color shifts .. my opinion.
Yellow Pager
11-16-2004, 12:22 AM
Color Correction is at best a difficult thing. If you want accurate color between Photoshop and Painter, set the RGB to your monitor ICC profile in both, and make sure your CMYK profiles are the same. In Painter, activate the arrow from the color profile (set to your monitor ICC, to your printer (set to Photoshop 5 Default CMYK preferably), then activate your arrow to your monitor (set at the same setting as your color profile). If done correctly, both your RGB and CMYK previews in both programs will match exactly.
Now, before you say "give up Adobe RGB? are you nuts?", the key here is to have your monitor properly calibrated to provide true color, and the only way to do this is like I did, with the Pantone OptiCal Spyder Pro (which costs around $200). I also do a lot of professional print work freelancing (as well as my on my day job), and I know that almost every printing company strips out your ICC profiles anyway. The fact that your printer reccommends an RGB profile as opposed to CMYK is pretty scary anyway. I know $200 sounds like a lot for something like this, but trust me, in the printing industry they are as valuable as an enlarger color-calibrator is to a photographer. Now I can print catalogs where color matching is critical, especially my Pantone colors (which considering Pantone makes the Optical Spyder, is quite understandable). What I see on my screen is an exact match to my swatchbook.
KayosIII
12-05-2004, 11:02 PM
It is pretty pointless to convert to CMYK if you are going to print with more than 4 inks....
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