Still: Hairy angler...

[Izu]

Hey........exelent model...i love it....I LOVE IT I TALL YA...!!!! :applause: :love: :D :surprised :cool:

[Carina]

wow i like it...

i think it would look even better with more lighting.. i mean it should still be a dark scene, but there could be more definition to the fish..

and perhaps more stuff.. like dark rocks and algae to add to the atmosphere?

P'raps

[Dimitrius]

Looks like a good model, show it off. Add some specular only lights or some rim lights to try and bring definition to the model.

As Carina suggested, get a more involved environment. Some particulate matter floating in the water would go a long way to adding the impression of actually being in water. Some more color, too, maybe.

Looks good though as far as the model goes.

[damon579]

looks great :) i remember back when it was in WIP form. you did a great job :)

[sforsyth]

Cheers guys! Thanks for taking the time out to crit it. :thumbsup:

I've only seem limited footage of this fish, but is seems to live at REALLY deep depths and not at the seabed, (hence the dark background), so rocks and algae weren't something I was going to put it into it. I was thinking maybe a shrimp or something (which apparently also live at those depths :shrug: )

I will try to improve the lighting though, and maybe up the colour. amount a notch or two as suggested. I intentionally left it a bit washed out because, again, at those depths I wanted it to appear like there was very little light, and as we all know, with little light, comes little colour. ;) I'll do some tests and get back to you with it. Is it allowed to post another image in the one thread anymore?

Anyway, before I update, as it sorts of floats there, and doesn't lie at the seabed or anything near vegetation and stuff, has anyone any suggestions for possible extra material/environment around it? Like I said, the shrimp was one thing, but that's quite an involved piece of modelling, (another project in itself!). I tried to simulate particles, plankton, etc in this image, was it not enough?

[Flypaper]

Nice looking fish, is it edible?

Seriously tho, I've watched it progress, it's a good metamorphosis and a great finished project. The only thing that urks me the wrong way it the white bubbles or plankton or whatever they are. They just seem to bright and too out of place.

[behzad]

just a bit of contrast and color adjustment in photoshop might do the trick.
Excellent fish.

[say-g]

i leiks ur fish :drool:

[mebamonster]

Wow!. Good to see this fish make it into finished works. You have done a wonder with it. Looks just like the reference photo you were using. Great job sforsyth!:bounce: :beer: :bounce:

[sforsyth]

Cheers guys.

Flypaper: the plankton is a bit bright, I'll try and tone that down a bit and post it later (probably Monday).

Behzad: Thanks for the tip. I was actually looking for a murky depths sort of look to it, so I went away from the bright contrast. Might have another look at it though.

say-g: Cheers!

mebamonster: Thanks! How's that horse of yours coming along?

[sforsyth]

Top image has been updated. Can someone please let me know what the rules are with regard to posting in the gallery section?
I know you can post multiple images in the wip section, but am not so sure about this one. Which raises a point. If you post something in the gallery with a view to getting crits on it, and if you're prepared to make changes to your image, is it then a work in progress?
For example, I considered this model to be a work in progress as long as I was doing the model itself. My "finished" piece was then posted as a gallery image. With some of the criticisms being spot on, I decided I needed to change it to suit some of them, but by doing so have I now gone from gallery image to wip?

In a nutshell, am I allowed post multiple images of a gallery piece or will the entire thread get deleted for abuse?
As it is, I've had to change the existing image on top, which means that those who have given crits can no longer see the old image as reference for the changes now made.

Pleeeease! Can someone clue me in on this? I'll be your sugar-daddy...

[tpe]

Very nice image, sorry no crits, more of a question.

This is a deep sea fish so there should be very little light, the light should come from the top but the abient light is almost as much as the directional light because the light gets reflected on all the particles throughout the water from surface to bed. When we see pictures of deep sea fish they are usually illiminated from a torch or some similar light near to the viewpoint. What sort of light do you think is most appropriate, how do you think the scene would be improved or spoilt by that kind of directional light and what other problems did you have to concider when trying to light the beast ???

tpe

P.S. Could fish fannys (vulvea) are the same in Ireland as in Denmark, but that its always the one nearest that smells worst;)

[gaggle]

Op, an angler fish! I worked on one of those once :)
It's the most off-topic question in the context of 3d as it can be, but I never found out what an angler-fish is..because the angler-fish I found had a big ol' bioluminescent ball it used to lure fish into it's rather big teethy mouth.
Anyway, pondering if maybe you knew what the angler fish "is"..as it seems clear there's not just one type of them :)

Your fish looks good. I agree with the others that the composition could perhaps be tweaked to bring out the details. As for background-stuff, I got to pondering that, yes, there's no sun-light down there, but maybe from a sub? The poor little fish could've gotten caught in the lightbeams from an exploring sub. Ah well, just a random thought.

Good work so far. Now animate it! :)

[sforsyth]

Jamen goddag danskere! Det er da godt at hoere fra jer. Tak for svarene!
The lighting on this was a bit strange. I decided in the end to just go for one volumetric light from above, (as it was filmed in the reference footage I got), but found I got a nice effect if I changed the attenuation parameters, which gave that look of an ambient light aswell. By attenuating the near parameter to start and end close to the start of the far parameter, it sort of gave an area of light around the fish, which I liked. I then applied a little Colour Balance effect, and gave it some cyan, to give it that murky, slightly more photgraphic feel, and finally added some brightness and contrast as suggested by others. I tried to add some rim or back lighting, but it didn't really look right, as it then looked like there should have been some back light source, where there so obviously wouldn't and couldn't be.

As you say, tpe, I tried to just keep the light from above as one volumetric light coming down without that near attenuation, but it just looked so much cooler without it. Without it, it was spoiled by making it too obvious it was only one light and also by making it look very much like a computer generated image. If you want I can post both images, but I'm not sure that's allowed in the gallery. The way it's lit now, I feel it looks more like you're seeing it as a photo rather than a boring, flat, one light setup. "eering into the murky depths" is the mood I was going for, and this came closest to that.

The bio-lumniscent ball is there, hanging from it's line at the top right of the screen. Couldn't tell you what the fish "is", I know it merely as "hairy angler fish".:shrug:
I modeled all the details on the fish, but I'm not that concerned that they're not all shown, as long as the image still looks cool to me, I won't consider it wasted modeling time.
Animate it! Phew! I don't get much opportunities to do animation, but I might give it a try. If I do, I'll post it here and let you know.

Hej, hej, og tak for alt!

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