Dark elf : the Matriarch

[Cullen]

Very cool.

Cant wait to see more.

[LuWeeWu]

More updates please...

[Zapan]

Thank you guys !!
Sorry no update by now 'coz I'm a little busy but I'll try to work on that soon

thx for the support

Still C&C

[Zapan]

Here's the update , sorry for being late....

C&C are welcome
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi5.jpghttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi4.jpg

[ares623]

haha a thong! :drool: wow!!!:bowdown: very nice! fits the title. very sexy.:drool: wheres the hair from the first post? i liked it with hair. thats just me though. :)

[MrGrinch]

Nice work...very dominatrix-like
I like the stylized appearance of the face, but I think the centre of the face shouldn't come to such a strong point horizontally....what I mean is, try pushing in the vertices down the centre where the symmetry joins so they're horizontally in line with the next line of verts...it'll make the join look less sharp. Mind you, if that's what you're going for, it works fine.
The body is good, but I'd adjust the breasts so they dont come out to the sides so much, even with big breasted women it's uncommon for you to be able to see them from the back so much. That tight top would probably push them together a bit anyway :) The only other thing I can see is that the lower bump where her g-string cuts in shouldnt come to such a strong point...great stuff though, very impressive

[Zapan]

ares623 : Thank you , the hair will be back soon...

MrGrinch : Very good crits, I'm going to fix that right now...thx

Still C&C

[Chris. F.]

Salut Zapan ;) Comme tu sais j'ai demissionner de FullCg :D, un forum Fleur Bleue, tres peu pour moi ;)

I'm glad to see u here at this forum Zapan ;)
First I want to say that I like that Kind of "modeling style" maybe her buts is a lil to fatty :p
But I like it, It looks a lil like a Hyung Tae Kim Style. Gg nice face too for that Elf a good Chars hope the textures will come soon

Nice Work Keep Doing !

[Tweekend]

very nice, her eyes are maybe a bit too tiny, but its maybe only because i cant see the purpil on her, cant wait to see texture on her, keep up the good work :D

[Zapan]

Thx you guys

Chris. F. : Je trouve ca quand meme dommage pour FullCG, mais bon.... Tu es ici et c'est pas plus mal ;) ...
The textures won't be there soon but it's the plan...

Tweekend : thank you , for her eyes , I'll fix them when she'll have pupils, to fit her look...

little update with the hair, though the shader needs more work. I fit the body a little and reduce her waist and her breast , is that better ?

http://site.voila.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi7.jpg

[Lordrych]

I personally like the hips the way they were, it gave her more attitude, What are yo using for the hair right now? is it a shader, can I see a wire frame of the hair?

Rych

[GI-JOe2k]

mmmhh..."what's your name girl? what's your sign?...":scream:
hi mister zapan, your elfe is great... a little bit fat but her head is very....expressive.
keep it up mister ZAPAN i can't wait!
(ZAPAN tu me dégoutes de plus en plus t'as vraimment pris du skill, je te hais ma chérie"):scream:
:thumbsup:

[Zapan]

GI Joe2K : Hi man !!! Glad you like her...

Lordrych : no problem here the wire...

Update , fisrt test in pose before texturing ,in her left hand I'm planning to put a sword and in the right one some kind of magic sceptre...

anyway let me know what do you think of
C&C

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi9.jpghttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi12.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi10.jpghttp://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi11.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi13.jpg

[GI-JOe2k]

wonderful!:thumbsup:

[MadMeph]

Nice model dude! :-) I like the pose as well, nice balance...

Perhaps a smaal change and you have a dramatic scene... have a wounded human male, lying nat her feet and put one of her feet on his chest, with the tip of the sceptre at his throat... Instant drama with ionteresting story elements ;)

[Poonks]

Amazing work!:buttrock:

But the spikes on the arms looks very slackness...

Next next I want to see more:bounce:

[BAEKON]

Hey Zapan, this is really good work, very amazing stuff. I was looking at ur model and here are my crits. I think the shoulder area needs some work (especially the back part). her biceps looks a little flat, maybe define them more. Her chin is a little too long for my taste, but maybe that's your style (maybe move it up a notch). other than that, WOW, great character design and a beautiful pose.

-alex

[Zapan]

Thx to all

3DBae806 : I will arrange that but the arms need so much work ...

Poonks : Thx buddy , as I say , arms need lot of work and some stuff will change (like these spikes) , so wait and see....

MadMeph : Cool idea , but the picture that inspire me have more "majesty" look so...

GI-JOe2k : thx sweety ;) update soon... I hope

Sorry for bad english...

Still C&C

[hellspawned]

oh damn, that's a sweet elf ^^ how did you do the hair? to make it move after the characters head? and what material/s did you use?

[Terkonn]

Absolutly incredible! I'm a very inexeprienced noob and am working on my first female character. I'm beginning to know what kind of work goes into these things and I must say, Bravo!

[Dravenfr]

WONDERFUL !!!

Great job !!!

Nice modeling it'll be hard to wait for the textured version ;)

[FSkarstedt]

Very cool work! Only thing that I noticed is that her hands seems to be a little to small?

[Zapan]

hellspawned : the hair is opacity map

Fredrik_S : thank you and you're right the hand was too small and I tried to rescale them...

Dravenfr,Terkonn : Thank you guys.

Update still modeling , rearrange arms and hand is that better ?
Work on weapons and start the coat ( more work needed)

Please comment and crit

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi20.jpg

[TheCaveman]

this is one hell of an elf keep up the good work I will be following this. :buttrock:

[SoD]

WOW! You've done an amazing work so far! That's one of an elf! The upper chest, (up the boobs) seam a little bit too large, or maybe it's her cloth that give this impression.

Very cool, keep it up!

[smaddl]

great model.

[Hollow Out]

she's hot. good work.

[linen_umbrella]

Great job, keep the updates coming. As a small technical matter the waste is too small, remember the Barbie controversy, it wasn't only about body image it was also about the physically impossible dimensions that the body had in order for a woman to remain...well a woman i.e. "monthly business". Bring in the hips and bust or else bring out the waist, I wouldn't recommend the latter or else she'll just look fat. And no woman likes that!

[djkaneda]

i must say there isn't much hotter than a woman who can kick ass. very nice man really dramatic character. eagerly awaiting more:thumbsup:

[srt]

Great job, keep the updates coming. As a small technical matter the waste is too small, remember the Barbie controversy, it wasn't only about body image it was also about the physically impossible dimensions that the body had in order for a woman to remain...well a woman i.e. "monthly business". Bring in the hips and bust or else bring out the waist, I wouldn't recommend the latter or else she'll just look fat. And no woman likes that!
if this were a realistic human female then i would agree. however, this is a stylized fantasy character and i think the body proportions work very well.

i like this model very much

[wayfaerer]

Really a great model! The only thing i'd say is that the head of the staff is a bit too thick for my taste. It's simply not as elegant as the rest of the model.

[Target]

OMG! It's Cher!!! :)


Sorry, couldn't resist. I love the modeling really. Especially the a hair. The sword kind of throws me off, but I think its the render, makes it look flat.

[TIMTHESORCERER]

yeah, and she's not human to start with

[pascal_blanche]

Zapan, tu utilises 3Dsmax, non?

pour ameliorer ton rendu: change le filtering par defaut (area) pour un catmull rom (plus fin et net) et si tu as utilisé une area ou sky shadow, augmente le nombre de rayon, ca diminuera l'aspect granuleux de tes ombres... beau boulot!

[Zapan]

thank you all !!

linen_umbrella : actually the proportions that I got to modelize is from a sketch that I find in a google search from a comics woman so , It's obviously not realistic human proportions , and I confess that is not the goal of that work...

wayfaerer : I'm planning to tweak these parts so it will be change...

pascal blanché : woa pascal blanché !!! :eek: , en fait j'utilise maya mais je vois l'équivalence des réglages dans max , en tout cas merci beaucoup du conseil et pour le reply...

TIMTHESORCERER,Target,srt,djkaneda,Hollow Out,smaddl,SoD,The_Wicked_Caveman : thanks to all

Update , start the head texture but it's just the color and the bump map, I will work the others later...

C&C

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi22.jpg

[pascal_blanche]

arfg raté ...je croyais que pourtant c'etait du max ;) boh de toutes facons il s se ressemblent tous ces programmes.. bonne continuation!

[shaolin]

salut stef.

tu as fait du bon boulot . mais essaye de travaller ton rendu au maximum.
en tout cas stef bravo sacre boulot ! et tu passe boire le cafe quand tu veux !

[sin_mania]

I think you could make the nose little bigger and play around with upper part and with cheek-bone area. And there is lack of details on chin area. Down part of the body i think is too big especially the legs. Very nice and clean model. Just can't wait to see more.

[jmBoekestein]

Simply beautiful,

am waiting for more updates. It's been very long:thumbsup: .

[Zapan]

jmBoekestein : Sorry you guys but I don't have much time to work on it so updates are quiet long to show up , but I'm still working on it , thanks for the support...

shaolin : Merci bcp Maître !!! je ma suis pas encore penché sur les rendus, j'imagine que j'y travaillerais beaucoup plus dessus quand j'aurais fini les textures...

sin_mania : I will try to work on it ... thanx

'Lil update of skin/eyes textures..
Thanx for any crits and comments , all suggestions are welcome...

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi23.jpg

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/zapan/Morathi/Morathi24.jpg

[BoromirNo1]

This lady definately looks like one of Lloths choosen. Very nice. Love the model as a whole but especially her face, the expression shows beauty while remaining menacing. Great stuff.

[Zapan]

Thank you BoromirNo1 ,

I'm glad you guys like her , I'm still working on the textures ,updates will appear soon...
Thx for the support

Still C&C

[Raventengu]

Sweet keep up the good work...
How do you do the hair?

[-KDX-]

nice progression. When I was looking at the first few posts I was disappointed but it got good QUICK. Nice anatomy and expression...

I wanna know about the hair too.
-KDX-

[jmBoekestein]

nice progression. When I was looking at the first few posts I was disappointed but it got good QUICK. Nice anatomy and expression...

I wanna know about the hair too.
-KDX-

It looks like the hair are surfaces with textures+alpha on them for the locks and a surface for the main body of it. Seems like mapping a texture to a square to me?

I myself was hooked straight after the second pic, such strong lines on a female. I was expecting to see more detail in the body but it all worked out fine in the end. Especially with the sword. Thumbs up!

[Zapan]

It looks like the hair are surfaces with textures+alpha on them for the locks and a surface for the main body of it. Seems like mapping a texture to a square to me?


I've nothing to add...all the technic is here, pretty good analyse jmBoekestein :)

Actually I was looking for a menacing look and maybe loose this nice and sweet lines that have womens... to a mean and majestic face... hope that it works...
I think I will add more details on her body but I will see what it looks like with the texture on it to see if something missing... updates soon

Thanks to all

[Sean121]

Wow Zapan!


This is an amazing model, very impressive! Looking forward to future updates.

[jmBoekestein]

Thanks,

and I think it works! The cool blue eyes definitely are a great touch too! But don't change her on my account, it's working fine like this! I was just surprised at the lower resolution.

[Echelon]

I agree with the others about the waist/hips-bust issue - proportionally, elves look more like regular humans, except thei're shorter and their heads are a bit thinner, giving them a pointy chin...

One thing however, as a semi-hard-core D&D'er, I need to say that when you textured her, you went from a drow-look to a more fallen high/forest-elf-look - which is sad (this'll kinda spoil the otherwise great face expression, since only drow have this cold, merciless, "I-could-kill-you-with-two-fingers" face.)

I say, either you redo her face to fit a non-drow (lower the eyebrows, make green/dark blue eyes etc.), or you texture her as a drow (which would fit her best); white hair, dark blue, in some cases nearly black skin and probably a lighter red for the lips.

Btw. You played HoTU? The last picture very much resembles the expression on the portrait of The Valsharess (http://nwvault.ign.com/Files/transfer/pictures/PORTRAIT_Blackfire_V231valsharessl.jpg), except yours seem to be staring upwards!?

[gpepper]

Yes Zapan ! ça le fait !
Elle a vraiment une tête de pure "salope" maintenant ! en tout bien tout honneur, enfin, c'est un compliment !
Juste le truc qui me choque un peu, c'est les bords extèrieurs des yeux... Ce bout de chair, il est pas plutôt à l'inérieur?
Chapeau, elle a bien évoluée depuis que je l'ai vu la dernière fois !

[sBibi]

very convincing, she really does look like what a matron mother or a Lloth's priestess could look like (the frowned bone on the eye socket's top part looks a bit strange, but it adds great character...)

et oui, on dirait vraiment une salope, mais c'est tout a fait ce que les drow sont censes etre, donc c'est tres bien :D

[Zapan]

Argggh !

So sorry everyone but my PC has crashed all my files of this work , so I can't work on it anymore....sniff

I hope you guys would follow my next wip which will start very soon.
Thanks to all for helping me on this thread...

[ivo-D]

nice expression on the face.. hope the rest will be as good. looking forward to it

[Echelon]

Damn, that sucks! You can't just reset your computer? If using XP, there's a feature somewhere in the start menu - you tried that? Anywas, it was a nice model, a shame if it broke!

[neversummer]

There's no way to recover your files? Dammit, I was lookin' forward to your next post... There's gotta be a way to get'em back! :banghead:

[jmBoekestein]

This stinks:sad: !

Now what? I hope you can get them back somehow. Otherwise looking forward to your next WIP.

[Echelon]

Exactly what is it that's messed up? Just the files? Cause if you do a lot of back-ups, and might have deleted some of them, there's a lot of recovering programs out there, which might be able to help you...

[Zapan]

Yeah I know , I've cried myself for a while...

And believe me I have tried everything possible to recover these files but... something has deleted them and wrote on the hard drive, I get back some files but there are very old and I don't know if I will have the courage to do all it again, I don't know what happend (maybe a virus or something but I'm not sure). But now I have clean out my computer (in the case it was a virus) and start a new model so...

I'll post it soon , hope you guys will like it and thank you for the support....

[sBibi]

argh, I'm sorry to hear that :(
that's too bad... already seen some other very nice models get completely lost in other threads for the same reasons... it's a shame, don't you have access to some external backup solution? (could be anything, CD/DVD-RW, backup bands, some repository that has backups, and external hard drive that gets plugged only for the time of the backup, etc.. ?)
actually, we have an svn repository (it's meant for source code and/or any text files, not really for art, but it can work pretty well for binary stuff too), and it's pretty neat to backup all you do. it takes only exactly three clicks at the end of the day (or anytime sooner) to commit your changes, and they're safe... (not from svn servers crashes, but if you have access to svn servs at work, or something similar, they're probably regularly backed up anyway...)

and even if you do this at home and don't have access to any kind of fancy repositories to backup your files, taking 3 minutes to save your last stuff on a cd-rw is really no time loss compared to the hours of work you loose when something like that happens :/

anyway, I wish you best luck with your next (and I hope soon to come ;)) projects
(and not so soon to come (I hope :/) future crashes)

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