Maya and AMD 64 bit?

[Randolph]

Does anyone have a system with AMD processor who is also using it with MAYA? Do you have any problems?

I'm runnig it on a Athlon 64 here and I've never encountered a problem because of this.

Is it better than a Pentium processor or there is no difference?

AMD is always better than Intel :D
Well, Intels hyperthreading capability may have some speed advantages with regard to hypertheaded procedures (paintFx, software rendering etc.) Anyway, you won't see a real difference between a 32 bit and a 64 bit system. As you now, AMD's 64 bit CPUs are fully compatible to 32 bit systems and as long as there's no 64 bit OS (and no 64 bit apps) that's not really the point.

[ya3]

there's no 64 bit OS.
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[westiemad]

i've never had a problem with maya on my 64 bit one. ALthough sometimes it pukes when I am writing particle expressions which can be bloody annoying, although this isn't due to the chip. It certainly knocks out the old renders fast enough.

[Randolph]

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Urgh :p ! Okay, let's start a flame war ... ;)

[dotTom]

I'm runnig it on a Athlon 64 here and I've never encountered a problem because of this.

AMD is always better than Intel :D
Well, Intels hyperthreading capability may have some speed advantages with regard to hypertheaded procedures (paintFx, software rendering etc.) Anyway, you won't see a real difference between a 32 bit and a 64 bit system. As you now, AMD's 64 bit CPUs are fully compatible to 32 bit systems and as long as there's no 64 bit OS (and no 64 bit apps) that's not really the point.No, there is a small but noticable speed difference. I'm running a dual 64 bit Xeon and natively compiled 64 bit stuff can take advantage of the extra registers to make function calling faster (since you have to build / tear down call stacks less frequently).

The other minor speed increase is that 64 bit just gives the OS more virtual address space to play with which means less costly remapping and more space for OS buffers.

Irrespective of your choice of AMD or Intel (let's just get over that OK - it's so boring), the most important thing if you're buying 64 bit hardware today is to get a mother board that can take more than 4GB of physical memory. I only have have 2GB in my DELL 470, but I can put 16GB in it (assuming the bank manager doesn't try to hunt me down and kill me). I guess if you're going with AMD you'll want a nForce 4 or similiar chipset so you can also party with PCI-Express.

[Mr Majestic]

I am planning to upgrade my PC and my computer guys has offered me a AMD 3.0 system
by 3.0 i was guessing you meant 3ghz but thinking about it there isnt a 3 ghz amd 64. Not even the fx55, its 2.6.

[QUOTE=dotTom]I guess if you're going with AMD you'll want a nForce 4 or similiar chipset so you can also party with PCI-Express[QUOTE]

Then he would have to pay a ton for a pciexpress vid card unless hes getting a x700 or lower, not to mention a lot of ddr2 ram =$$$$$$$$

As to the question, I was told that maya doesnt support hyperthreading as a seperate processor like max does, I could be wrong. I am upgrading from a p4c 2.6 to a amd 64 3500+ from benches ive seen it preforms alot better.

[dotTom]

by 3.0 i was guessing you meant 3ghz but thinking about it there isnt a 3 ghz amd 64. Not even the fx55, its 2.6.

[QUOTE=dotTom]I guess if you're going with AMD you'll want a nForce 4 or similiar chipset so you can also party with PCI-Express[QUOTE]

Then he would have to pay a ton for a pciexpress vid card unless hes getting a x700 or lower, not to mention a lot of ddr2 ram =$$$$$$$$

As to the question, I was told that maya doesnt support hyperthreading as a seperate processor like max does, I could be wrong. I am upgrading from a p4c 2.6 to a amd 64 3500+ from benches ive seen it preforms alot better.
Dunno about paying more for PCI Express or DDR2. My X800 XT PCI Express card was roughly the same price as its AGP equiv and DDR2 memory isn't that much more expensive if you shop around.

[Mr Majestic]

from what ive seen a x800xt pci express is 500-700 dollars, and ddr2 ram is quite expensive, while im comparing it to pc3200 ram, you can get a gig of decent pc3200 ram for 160 while 512mb of some ddr2 is that price. though it all depends on what speed and such you are comparing it to.

[LordApophis]

Here is the run down:
An Athalon 64 system would be superior to a P4 system iff you are willing to wait for windows 64bit ed (begginging of next year) and are willing to wait for Maya to realease a 64 bit version. On that note, at one of the Maya events I went to, I asked one of the developers if they were planning a 64 bit version release and they said only if there is a demand for it (this was >~1yrs ago). Thus far, I belive the industry has DRIVEN demand. So my two Cents are buy the 64 since it will still work fine for now (compared to a p4 there is only a marginal performance hit) and wait it out until the really cool stuff comes out. (Its a chicken and the egg problem) The only thing is you know that the support is coming, are u patient enough tho.

[mitralone]

Hi there again.

Thanks for all the comments but curious about one thing. If AMD does not have 3.0 as 64 bit, then my computer guy is trying to rip me or is it something different. He told me buy AMD it is 64 bit and then he said an AMD 3.0 system will fly you and it is much cheaper than a P4 system. So now the thing split into 2 questions:

1- AMD or Pentium(AMD seems ok)
2- IF AMD would 32 bit hurt(still has the price advantage) and also I am told that all AMD processors are capable of overclocking about 40 percent is this true?

More questions coming as I delve deeper? I am afraid I will not be able to decide on this before new year. I would still be thinking 64 bit or AMD or maybe a spectrum 64K or even better a Commodore 64. Which one which ooooneeeeee HEEEEEEEEEELP

hehe sorry lost it for a while. Anyway thanks for the advice and just one more about the questions above please.

[mitralone]

Hi there again.

Thanks for all the comments but curious about one thing. If AMD does not have 3.0 as 64 bit, then my computer guy is trying to rip me or is it something different. He told me buy AMD it is 64 bit and then he said an AMD 3.0 system will fly you and it is much cheaper than a P4 system. So now the thing split into 2 questions:

1- AMD or Pentium(AMD seems ok)
2- IF AMD with 32 bit hurt(still has the price advantage) and also I am told that all AMD processors are capable of overclocking about 40 percent is this true?

More questions coming as I delve deeper? I am afraid I will not be able to decide on this before new year. I would still be thinking 64 bit or AMD or maybe a spectrum 64K or even better a Commodore 64. Which one which ooooneeeeee HEEEEEEEEEELP

hehe sorry lost it for a while. Anyway thanks for the advice and just one more about the questions above please.

[dotTom]

The new Pentium 4 now have EM64T, so you can run beta build 3790 of Windows XP Professional x64 edition on it (you can get this from MSDN if you have a developers subscription). I'm running said OS on Intel hardware as I type this.

The major thing to look out for is: can you mobo (irrespective of AMD vs. Intel) take more than 4GB of physical RAM. Can't stress this enough.

[Randolph]

If AMD does not have 3.0 as 64 bit, then my computer guy is trying to rip me or is it something different. He told me buy AMD it is 64 bit and then he said an AMD 3.0 system will fly you and it is much cheaper than a P4 system. So now the thing split into 2 questions:

1- AMD or Pentium(AMD seems ok)
2- IF AMD with 32 bit hurt(still has the price advantage) and also I am told that all AMD processors are capable of overclocking about 40 percent is this true?


1- It's truely your decision.

Don't confuse the AMD Rating with the "real" CPU clock; e.g. an "AMD 3000+" doesn't mean its clock ticks at 3.0 GHz, it's actually 1.8-2.0 but according to AMD it should be as fast as an Intel at 3.0 GHz - that's a lot of marketing blabber of course, but the times of a simple "more GHz = faster" are over.

2- that depends on the CPU model. Personally I've never been a friend of overclocking.

[Mr Majestic]

Ask him for the model of the cpu, like the guy above me said, either you or him could have just gotten confused and thought a amd 64 3000+ was a 3 ghz processor. If you want to ask him for the full specs for everything in the comp and either post it and the price on here or pm me then Im sure we can tell you if its a good deal or not. As for overclocking like Randolph said it does depend on the model but amds are known to be able to be overclocked much further than a comparable intel.

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