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Erik Heyninck
11-03-2004, 07:12 PM
I now have the box with Painter9 upgrade in front of me. One CD fixed with some shabby plastic thingy to a cardboard box background, the back side of the cd needs cleaning to get rid of the pieces of cardboard and the dust...
Then there is a kind of bizarre "manual" that tells about Painter's evolution etc untill, from p47 to p77, yes: 30 full pages in a manual of some 170, you get an idea about how to get started. Finally a series of not very impressive overviews of how certain artists work.

OK, the help file will probably be a bit more extensive, but hey: don't hesitate to get a download copy if that's cheaper!

Jinbrown
11-04-2004, 12:01 AM
Hi,

The spiral bound book that comes with the Painter IX boxed version is not a User Guide.

It's the Painter IX Handbook.

Painter IX Help > Help Topics provides the User Guide in online format with a Contents tab, Index tab, Search feature, and a Favorites tab where you can bookmark items you want to return to frequently.

See the thread named Painter IX - What's Included - Boxed, Download, or Academic Versions (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=181524) to learn what else is included in your boxed version that's not included in either the download or academic versions.

Erik Heyninck
11-04-2004, 12:47 PM
The cost of that handbook would've been better invested in a manual. It must be great for the insiders to see their names published, but I see more use for a manual.

There is indeed a pdf manual. This is on the CDRom and isn't automatically installed (I did not find it anywhere and had to copy it to the hdd myself.

This manual is far from complete. I'm not really ranting about minor glitches, like mistakes in reference page-numbers, but on included features like marbling, and some of the included plug-in effects like the kpt ones. Even the help files do not document these.

I can agree that a printed manual is limited to the bare necessities and refers to the help-files for more info, but when it's a simple pdf one has to print out oneself, then I find it should be complete. Printing out sections from a help file is far from workflow-friendly.

This said: I am not complaining about the program itself. I would not have upgraded if the demo of 9 didn't give me enough reasons, when compared to P8, to do so.

But I am not happy with this lack of a basic printed manual (like in 8) and even less about the fact that my cd was scratched and had a crack in the centre from the first moment. Even less as the package is perhaps ok for children's toys but not for a professional application.

Jinbrown
11-04-2004, 01:33 PM
I haven't checked the Painter IX PDF User Guide yet, but you'll find information on both Marbling and KPT Filters in Painter IX Help > Help Topics:

Contents > Image Effects > Using Esoterica Effects > Apply Marbling

Contents > Image Effects > Using KPT Filters

If I find scratches or cracks on my CD, Corel's gonna hear from me pronto and I'll expect them to send me a new CD. They did that for me a few versions back when my painter 6 CD got messed up.

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