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SheepFactory
12-17-2001, 06:31 PM
Hi Guys

Anybody know of a couple of good books about 2d animation timing/exaggaration/weight balance/etc ?

I am trying to learn 2d animation techniques

any help is much appreciated

A|i

Threedeemer
12-18-2001, 01:31 AM
Man that avatar is hillarious :D .
I'm not sure its the exact type of book your looking for, but check out "The Animator's Workbook", by Tony White; it has great general techniques and info for drawn animation. This book is dated but still the most helpful one I have used. Check for it at Amazon or Barnes and Nobles.

SheepFactory
12-18-2001, 04:18 AM
Thanks man , i ordered it now , looks like the right book

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LiiMuRi
12-18-2001, 01:34 PM
Ok, I see you got your book and this is a bit offtopic anyways, but Carlos Baena has some really good links about all kinds of animating at his site:

http://www.mclinn.net/~carlos/anim_material.html

Just thought that you might be interested.

Shogun
12-18-2001, 02:48 PM
Timing for animators by Harold Whitaker & John Halas
isbn: 0-240-51310-x
and Cartoon animation by Preston Blair
isbn:1-56010-084-2

SheepFactory
12-18-2001, 03:55 PM
Thanks Shogun and Lilmury , both the website and the book are awesome.

Woooohooo time to draww :D

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ikmo
12-19-2001, 03:12 PM
Check this site out!

www.freetoon.com

It's essentially all of the Preston Blair books!

Henry :p

Fat&ugly
12-19-2001, 03:27 PM
Cartoon Animation by Preston Blair. Its the bible, its been around forever. Covers almost everything.

SheepFactory
12-19-2001, 05:41 PM
wow that site is awesome.

thanks for all the help guys:)

A|i

Munson
01-09-2002, 02:10 PM
The Animator's Survival Kit

by Richard Williams is also a very good book, you can grab it from Amazon.

:D

M.

CHARPU
01-09-2002, 02:56 PM
Any nice animation to take a look???

Daxx
01-17-2002, 10:24 PM
"The Animator's Workbook"Tony White

and

"The Illusion of Life" Disney Animation

ENJOY

Squash&Strech
01-20-2002, 01:10 PM
Hmmmmmmm,

All the good books I like have been mentioned, I have nothing to add but this useless message :))hehehe:D :D :D

Daxx
01-23-2002, 11:16 PM
:cool:

El_Fugee
02-03-2002, 07:34 AM
"The animatorīs survival kit" by Richard Williams
:D

SheepFactory
02-03-2002, 10:13 AM
i got that yesterday :D

Adam Klein
02-03-2002, 03:11 PM
Daxx, do know where one can find The Illusion of Life, I can never find it, and I hear its diffucult to find without paying some bucks, any help would rock!

Ada K.

Luke Werhli
03-01-2002, 08:46 PM
Try amazon.com or amazon.co.uk

jazzthief
03-12-2002, 09:15 AM
My animaton bibles:

Richard Williams 'Animator's Survivor Kit'
Timing for Animators
Illustion of Life
Sheridan College character animation notes

jazzthief
03-12-2002, 09:16 AM
Adam u can order the Illusion of LIfe from www.lightfootltd.com cover price. I highly recommended it to my students and they're learning alot.

Adam Klein
03-12-2002, 01:36 PM
Hey thanks Jazz!! I never thought I'd get it, heh,heh:) The lightfoot site has a lot of stuff available that I haven't seen before, excellent.

I do have a question though, how are the layout books? I've never seen anything like that.

Adam K.

SheepFactory
03-12-2002, 01:57 PM
Jazzthief , thanks a lot for the lightfoot link , the tapes look really good.

A|i

Luke Werhli
03-12-2002, 06:01 PM
JazzThief, how do I find the Sheridan notes?

Thanx

ikmo
03-12-2002, 10:01 PM
Thanks Jazztheif! I've been looking for that book for years now! :eek:

Yes, Sheridan notes would be great to get also! Where can I get them?

If anyone is interested in the Chuck Amuck video that is being sold at lightfoot, I just found a number of used copies at Amazon. I would prefer to get a brand new one, but honestly can't afford the $100. I spent $20 with shipping included for a used tape at Amazon.

Just a thought!
:D

jazzthief
03-12-2002, 11:53 PM
No problem guyz I think its important that the Illusion of Life should be part of your library. As far as the Sheridan notes I'm afraid that's not available to the public. Unless you're a student at Sheridan College (excellent school) or in my animation class. It's HUGE detailing from character design, layout, animation, timing, poses, workflow issues ..etc. Just consider it the Andrew Loomis (excellent draftsman/ illustrator) of animation. Priceless.

I usually made photocopies of the Sheridan notes to my students. Due to demand I may strongly consider writing a book based on these notes and my experience in traditional/ CG animation.

ikmo
03-13-2002, 12:08 AM
Yes! Yes! :)

A book on thos topics would be excellent! Keep us posted on if/when that happens! :)

jazzthief
03-13-2002, 12:30 AM
I have three publishers approach me about a book but its not easy since writing is painful. We're see what happens this summer ...

Keep in mind that drawing will help you during the keyposes even in CG. So checkout (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) Andrew Loomis studies. Priceless.

http://www.yoyodyne.net/loomis/

Geez, I'm beginning to feel like this is a classroom.

Adam Klein
03-13-2002, 02:17 AM
just EXCELLENT, Proffesor Jazz ;) the anatomic reference lines are MUCH simpler, I learned a lot from Hogarth's book, but you're right, these tecniques seem more thorough and usable for drawing quickly.

have you written books before on these topics?? if so, now is the time to put on the business hat and plug 'em, heh,heh, because you have all ears here.

much thanks
Adam K.

jazzthief
03-13-2002, 03:56 AM
Burne Hogarth makes too many artistic lies with his form. Plus in my humble opinion its abit mushy. Compared to Loomis which has structure. Not too many animators are aware of Andrew Loomis something I learned when I illustrated for comic books. At Marvel comics the editors hand out Loomis studies to young entry level artists.

Just my 2 cents but if you want to learn about storytelling and 'animated' forms take a look at Will Eisner "Comics & Sequential Art". Priceless.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0961472812/qid=1015973568/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/104-4091172-4727906

Heck, even Brad Bird is big fan of Will Eisner "The Spirt" just watch IRON GIANT and watch closely when Hogarth showcase his comicbooks.

bentllama
03-14-2002, 02:06 AM
SHERIDAN COLLEGE NOTES

I will be posting Sheridan College notes in a unique and informative format on my website. I am in the process of redesigning it and will have the notes as well as tutorials and any other pertinent information dealing with character animation.

Be patient, as I will post a message here on this forum when I have the new site up.

Peace.

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