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dvornik
08-21-2002, 12:12 AM
Repost. Updated information at the buttom of the thread.

For people in NYC. Guys it's gonna sound like advertisement but I swear it's not even though I have a direct interest involved. If mods find this post unappropriate feel free to remove it and please accept my apologies.

I was planning on taking a 3ds max character rigging and animation course at continuing education program in Pratt Manhattan (for wich I also work). The guys who teach it are pretty good, they work in broadcast. I've taken a character modelling course with them and it was very helpful. See my level here (http://home.earthlink.net/~dvornik/cgt/saddam02.jpg) .

To take the course you need to have an animatable character ready and have an idea about the basics of max animation. Technically you are also required to complete a character modelling course to take it, but if you're good at character modelling they may wave it I think. You need instructor approval to take it - email him the samples of your character work.

Right now there's only two people including myself signed up for the course and it' will get cancelled unless more people join. If anyone else is interested pick up a catalog at 144 West 14 street between 6 and 7th (it's a total mess now since the building is still partially under construction). It's a bit expensive, around $800.

It's gonna be max 5 unless discreet takes their time sending us a flexlm licence file.

lildragon
08-21-2002, 12:36 AM
No it's fine, and sounds pretty interesting I might add. ;)

dvornik
08-21-2002, 12:44 AM
Ooof... Thanks, man. The machines are P4 1.4G with Quadro 2 Pro so don't bring heavy models.

dvornik
09-13-2002, 04:58 AM
Bump. I hope this is not a bad moment...

The course was postponed until Sep 19 so unless 2 other people join it's cancelled. I can't believe this. The instructors work for EyeballNYC, they are pretty damn good. Check it out (http://www.eyeballnyc.com/).

GRMac13
09-14-2002, 03:09 AM
I might be interested, but what days/times is the course offered? Also, how long is it? Do they offer this course regularly, or is it just a one time deal?

P.S. If it's more than one night a week, I prob won't be able to do it. Let me know anyway though.

dvornik
09-14-2002, 04:09 AM
It's every semester (unless the instructors quit :)) Thursday evening, 8 to 10. It's 15 sessions, but they like to combine it into 7.5 4-hour sessions, like one long class every 2 weeks from 6 to 10 PM. Their character modelling class is good too, but I've already taken it. The main instructor is Stuart Simms. He has a TA who works as his rigger at EyeballNYC.

I think this semester it'll get cancelled cause it wasn't promoted at all. The school has moved to a new building and the summer semester was cancelld and all of that. But next January there are all the students who take the modelling class now that will hopefully join. They are also thinking about separating rigging and animation into 2 different courses but it looks like there's not enough demand for it at the moment.

There are 3 semesters: Sep-Dec, Jan-May, Jun-Aug. Email the instructor with professional questions (I hope he doesn't mind): stuart@eyeballnyc_no _spam.com. Remove the no spam part, I'm just paranoid.

[edit] Come to think of it next semester may be better cause they will have their max 5 workflow sorted out.

GRMac13
09-14-2002, 04:15 AM
Thanx for the info dvornik. Is the class pretty advanced, or more of a beginner's course? I've already learned rigging and some animation, but I'd like to know more about it. If I can really gain alot from it, then I'll try to get in next quarter.

P.S. I'm assuming that Pratt students get priority, so how soon do you think the class would fill up?

dvornik
09-14-2002, 04:30 AM
It's a continuing education class and is part of the DTC (discreet training center) program. You get a discreet certificate at the end if you care about these things. Unfortunately it wasn't adequately promoted, so it usually isn't full, which is a shame.

The course is advanced (it's called "3ds max Advanced Character Animation") and technically requires you to take max animation 1 and 2 courses. But if the instructor thinks your level is appropriate they may wave the prerequisites. You'll have to email him directly with samples of your work. They concentrate on building and animating custom rigs (not a cs biped) for a character that you already have. The description also sais that the instructor can provide you with a character to animate, but why would you do that?

I would recommend it. It's also a good way to get your foot in the door if you're good at it; they would keep you in mind and refer you to their contacts in the industry.

tubby
09-14-2002, 07:25 AM
dude, that's like excactly what i was looking for, but since im in school year round and live on the west coast there is noway i could do that. i'll just weep here in the rain and daydream of being able to take one of those courses. :sad:

dvornik
12-16-2002, 02:56 AM
[December Update]

Well guys, take the spring class if you feel like. These classes are not gonna last forever.

Here's a rigged hand with the custom attributes on the wrist controller shown. The mesh is a cloned mesh with skin removed and broken into pieces to increase viewport speed during animation. All students have to work on the same rig, model provided. Printed tutorials with color illustrations provided.

Max 5, new dual 2200+ Boxx machines with Quadro4 750 XGL - it's a shame noone promotes it except me. Email Stuart with professional questions and for a permission to join the class.

Serge Cashman
Pratt Manhattan

http://home.earthlink.net/~dvornik/cgt/tech/rig_hand.gif
http://home.earthlink.net/~dvornik/cgt/tech/rig_foot.gif

richd
12-16-2002, 05:24 AM
when does the next course start? im looking to join. will they let me in because its undercrowded or will there be any specific requirments needed? maybe you have some updated info.
thnks

dvornik
12-16-2002, 09:29 PM
It's Jan 30 to May 8, 15 sessions on Thursday night. The requirement technically is to take a character design first (in itself a good course) but on practice it's instructor approval. If you don't have experience in character design and in basic (non-character) animation you won't be able to attend.

The courses I recommend are tought by Stuart Simms and Sal Midolo: here (http://search.pratt.edu/FMPro?-db=sps.fp4&-format=pro%5foffer.htm&-lay=search&-sortfield=CourseCode&-sortfield=Section&Subject=Animation&-lop=or&-skip=25&-find)

Kim Lee is teaching a couple of seminars here as well but I don't have any personal experience with them. He's supposed to be one of the top discreet instructors in NYC.
link (http://search.pratt.edu/FMPro?-db=sps.fp4&-format=pro%5foffer.htm&-lay=search&-sortfield=CourseCode&-sortfield=Section&Subject=Animation&-lop=or&-skip=0&-find)

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