Grand Space Opera 2D Entry: krzysiek kamrowski

[kengi]

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first post here :), so hello everybody. goodluck to all.

one of the first concepts. but only one witch is worth uploading. rejected.

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1098869067_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1098869067_large.jpg)

here's second one, a little bit more advanced. but also rejected. now im fincking about a bigger scene, concept soon.

[azazel]

Did you base that second ship on some church/cathedral building structure ? looks bit like that :)

Good luck :)

[mistermac]

nice painting, there's drama to the lighting.
I like the composition of the second piece. I think it would make a nice large scale backdrop to some sort of action.
Maybe it needs something in the lower lefthand area, like the planet being bombarded from orbit? The fact it's going into shadow there would suit something illuminated or foreground objects picked out in the light.

good start mate...

[kengi]

azazel, yep it's a cysters church combined with multiplied gotic cathedral elevations. little bit changed here and there.
thx :)

mistermac thx for your feedback, you're right... maybe i'll do something more with this pice. but i've got totally different idea, hope to finish concept soon... stay tuned ;)

[sidchagan]

Your concept sketches are really good, and detailed despite beingi n a rough stage. I'm curius to see what you *do* use though, considering both of these were rejected.
Between them, I'd probably have gone with the first one though.

[NinjaA55N]

Awesome concepts! Cant really decided which one I prefer more at this point... Every piece is very promising. I like the shape of the first spaceship and the mass of the second one.

[Ariyoshi]

I think the first one is much more "opera" than the second, but 2º are much more refined... can´t keep with only one. :)
Go with it.

[ered dium]

Woow, the spaceships looks amazing, the color also is great....very good ideas

[sketchfiend]

Some really excellent scenery mate, im looking forward to seeing what you develop your final piece into. Keep it up.:thumbsup: At this stage i would assume youd be have a hard time trying to decide which one to choose as theyre both really great. I actually prefer the first one, with the orbital space station looking thing, the you have shown it makes it feel strangely familiar but also sort of alien, i really like it.

[Peddy]

i like the church idea! space operas and religion dont usually go that hand in hand (to the extent of physical representation with technology) and so far in the this competition its the first representation of religion ive seen. im not religious personally, but i feel as far as the iconic element can do, itll really push it forward if you evolve it well! good luck.

[element5]

Man dont leave us hanging like this...hehe we need to see more. Your images are great:thumbsup:

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1100213586_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1100213586_large.jpg)

BIG THANKS for all massagess.

ive decided to use a face. ive used mirror to get main anatomy things, from my face. its not a self portrait. :) and stretch it to make it similiar to old western movies, witch where here in poland always squished to fit tv format.

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1100213979_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1100213979_large.jpg)

so i've produced simple perspective in the background. maybe i will add some futuristic equipment to the face.

but i think this concept will be used to produce final image. so im waiting to hear from you some strong C&C.

[lapazpaki]

it,s a very good idea to use a shape of churche. i hate myself i didn.t think about it. god damn it. idę na wódke

[Gord-MacDonald]

The image in post #3 is interesting - the originality of the spaceship is a bonus. Good Luck

[vapourtrail]

your painting style is so refreshing, i love your loose choppy style and new ideas. i love where this is going! what software are you using for the painting?


i don't think the face needs any equipment, his pose is so mysterious - i'd love to see you carry on the western theme with some iconic buildings in the background. to me it looks like he's staring out into the distance, setting off into the unknown and leaving behind a life or something he's done in this city...

...so you need something going on in the background that seems epic and shocking to anyone in the city, but he knows it's going on, so he just sets off without looking back..maybe as if he's ashamed of what he's done and is trying to put it behind him?

very inspiring work!

[NOOB!]

i like the church idea! space operas and religion dont usually go that hand in hand (to the extent of physical representation with technology) and so far in the this competition its the first representation of religion ive seen. im not religious personally, but i feel as far as the iconic element can do, itll really push it forward if you evolve it well! good luck.
NO!...i had religion first mwuahahahahahhaha.end

cool work!

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1101733057_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1101733057_large.jpg)

ok, i've got back to the second concept. i'll add "cathedral city" on the left. perspective will change a bit, and clouds... cumolonibus rockzzz;)

waiting for your C&C.

gordonm, thx, you helped me to decide to the second concept.

vapourtrail, thanx for kind words... and the background idea... but no more concept changes :)

NOOB, thx.

lapazpaki, alcohol... yeap, hyp... yip

[bolchover]

hi, I like your style. The concepts are interesting - I wonder whether the last one is a bit empty? perhaps needs a third point of interest.

[Arctis]

Hi Kengi,
Well man, I really am curious of your work !!! Your sent very high potential pictures, especially the last one ( great portraits too...):thumbsup:
I'll keep an eye on your thread.

Can we see your portfolio somewhere???

[dougbot]

Wow, great style. I like the ultra high feeling of this. Cool texture.

[Leadpump]

Great perspective! I see a lot of entrant really thought really big!

[kengi]

vapourtrail, i forgot to mention... im using only photoshop, now i'm doing perspective in 3d. witch i'll post soon.

bolchover, yeah maybe it is bit empty, but i hope details will cover this, and will add two other space ships witch are attempting to land in the cathedral city. im thinking also about lots of small 'interceptors' witch are flying next to the 'cathedral' spacecraft.

Arctis, thank you for your interesst. you can see some of my works here. (http://kengi.robal.net)

dougbot, Leadpump, thank you very much :)

[Arctis]

Hi Kengi,
Your link to your website doesn't work...
Tell me when it will be OK !

[NathanielWest]

This is really great. I think the ship design has a unique look, and the compostion looks great. I do feel like you could use some more darks in there though. It's not dramatic enough just yet in my opinion. I really liked you sketch with the face and buildings in the background. It had dynamic perspective, and you felt the overwhelming size of everything. I'm not feeling that on the new sketch though. Maybe just some forced perspective would do the trick. Great job overall!

[azazel]

First 'cathedral' concept gives IMO impression of bigger scale - maybe because of that background planet reference. It all looks smaller on the second one, some kind of size reference here would not harm.:thumbsup:

[adonihs]

Wow! lovely design for that ship, reminds me of the Slave 1 from star wars! But over all, awesome! Great grungy colors =) Love it

[OKMER]

Yep,got no crits so far,this is looking great and it's a great start.
I prefer the cathedral too and I thought that maybe some cyborg-gargoyles could be cool hanging around the ship/cathedrale...Just an suggestion.
I'll sure be back here,good luck mate!!!

My Grand SpaceBra 2d:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=184953

[Impenetrable D]

Hello Kenji, I just wanted to say that I think that is great that you are taking your time on this project in regards to spaceship design as well as the other complimentary settings, your letting it evolve in a natural way I admire that.

[bonestudio]

Well your technqiue is very impressive these are great concepts. I jsut think that you should add more action in your picture, like spacehift figths or something

[KaleN]

The ship design is great! Colour palette and lighting gives Your image nice mood. I think that it may look interesting if You paint some distant buildigs beneath the ship.

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1102026239_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1102026239_large.jpg)

maybe i've spend too much time on this stage, but i like maya :)

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1102026395_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1102026395_large.jpg)

i've divided my work to main layers, and started to work with the planet. oryginal size is 5200px wide.

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1102026558_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1102026558_large.jpg)

above i've posted some details of this pice :) thx for all posts. always is better to work knowing that somewone likes it.

thank you all very much!

[CENOBITE]

The cathedral/ship is a good idea. Quite unique. Perhaps it is too literal, tho. It almost looks like someone took one and just placed it in space. Maybe take the ribbed buttressing and bulk it up a bit. Or have the buttressing go completely around the ship. Remember the design of the large ship in Alien Resurection? It took from the idea of repeated forms like the buttressing of gothic churches. Take the usual elements seen in space craft and integrate them a bit more into the motif, then I think you will have somthing indeed special.

[Kraull]

Cool sketches here! I especially like your last aerian view! It feels like its alomost real.
Great work so far!:)

[adonihs]

im loving your concepts man =D

[bonestudio]

this begins to be very very interesting !!! your planet is amazing

[Arctis]

You're making an awesome view of a planet !
Beautiful work !!!:thumbsup:

[kengi]

thanks guys!!!

CENOBITE, thanx for crits. on this stage of work i've just "move" overall shape of the cysters church, i think that details i've planned to add to this ship will change it more. buttressing is interesting idea.
i think that integration will come, stay tuned :)

[Freefall Alpha]

for me this is one of the most exciting threads in the competition. I know you're working in photoshop...how do you get thoose brushes?! (like the one with loads of small dots) i have to say your painting style is inspirational. how is the latest painting going to fit in with the other stuff?

for that grand space opera style, you could put something absolutely huge on the surface...

-Tom

-freefall alpha space opera thread- (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=189016)

-freefall omega space opera thread- (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=189013)

[V_Shane]

excellent, just short of astral projecting while drawing eh? :scream:

[element5]

Your images so far are incredible.....no crits from me :thumbsup:

[kaparo]

Hi, great job! I think the cathedral idea is great. The suggestion of gargoiles is good too. I am imagining something extremely amazing on it. Keep working!!!

[Hillartsympho]

Wow i really like where this is going. You're colors in the landscape are gorgeous. I can't wait to see you put this all together!
Good job!

[KaleN]

Incredible work indeed. Can't wait for another upadate

[xeNusion]

impressive colouring style. cant wait to see the finished pic

[kengi]

sorry for not posting replays, had some problems.

Freefall Alpha wrote: 'how do you get thoose brushes?!'
well i just make some dots select them and use create brush command. then f5 and trying some of the settings there, esspesialy scattering and angle. i will publish all brushes i've used on this project after the challenge is finished.

Thanks all, again!!! i love getting that kind of posts :applause:

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1104402991_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1104402991_large.jpg)

here's finished planet layer.

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1104403108_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1104403108_large.jpg)

planet and clouds layer.

[Arctis]

Hi,
very nice render !
Don't forget to put some glow (diffuse light) on the horizon of the planet.
Keep it up ! :thumbsup:

[Claireabella]

Wow, really love your planet and clouds! Good luck. :thumbsup: Claireabella

[Levan]

wow, very nice clouds! I wait for more.

[azazel]

Apart from the glow on the horizon, id' soften the horizon a bit - now the sharp edge kind of draws too much attention. No blurring, just few brushstrokes to blend it slightly ;)

[cgkrusty]

Those clouds look very menacing... great work! Looking forward to see it all come together...

[SideAche]

Outstanding. I'm looking forward to seeing all the components come together.

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105755698_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105755698_large.jpg)

thx all, thanks for the glow... hope ill finish it before end of this challenge :)

here are some ship details, im finishing it 3/4 ended... and then the cathedrall

[CptObvious]

cathedric space ship :) low the colors and lighting.
I only don't like this cloud of dust, looking kinda flat and strange to me.
anyway, keep it up kengi!

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105837468_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105837468_large.jpg)

thx tiger. :)

here comes cathedral... i think that the colors won't be so, when i will merge it with spaceship.

[renton]

looks good, great idea.

[conundrum]

awesome work so far, i cant wait to see it all together it should make for a great painting. you have a very nice style so no crits at all, good luck getting it finished in time.

[cgkrusty]

The detail, atmosphere and mood of this piece is fantastic!

I can't wait to see the whole thing finished... won't be that long now!

Great work... love the Rose windows!

[azazel]

I was beginning to worry about your entry ;) Fortunately seems i was wrong. Cant wait to see the final one.

[CodeNothing]

Thats some realy beautifull painting! I am teaching a friend of mine how to paint and told her to look at this as a perfect example of what to do! :)

I also realy like the catheidral reference that building has!

[ecura]

This is coming along very well. Look at the close up details, its cool. No suggestions other then "Just get this done for the submission" best of luck and hope to see your final work soon.

[Levan]

Beautiful work, details please me. I wait on update!

[walrus]

Kengi - nothing constructive for me to add here, aside from saying that it looks great! I love the gothic feel and architctural influences on the big ship. Good luck finishing it, I can't wait to see the whole thing all together!

-mike

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105916797_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105916797_large.jpg)

thank you ALL. because of You guys it's a real plesure doing this! :)

almost finished... i will add some more details on "wings" and lower part of the big building. and i'm wondering about some post-production... :)

[cgkrusty]

I'd love to see some stronger (brighter) lights coming from the church Rose Windows, especially the one that are in shadow. I think that would make the image more dynamic as the back end of the "Church" is a bit dead right now.

Beautiful work though! Can't wait to see the full rez version of this image!

[Speaky]

Hi Kengi, what a wonderful image! I really like what you've done here, it's a very original concept done with style. Cgkrusty's point about the stronger lights is a very good one, it would add a really nice detail to reward closer inspection. It's looking great so far, can't wait for it to be finished. :thumbsup:

[daadaa]

awsome amount of detail, and great lighting, cant w8 for the finished thing!!

[CodeNothing]

wow! incredible! :eek:
i think the shadow on the right wing might be a little to warm.

[kengi]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105930316_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4830/4830_1105930316_large.jpg)

that's all folks. thanks for all your support. as i mention before this challenge was a great plesure, because of YOU! i wouldn't finish it without your support. i wish you all good luck!

CodeNothing... good point with the shadow. i've fixed it.

cgkrusty, Speaky, i've tried to add a little light (just a little).

hope you all like it. till the next time..

[azazel]

That black circular film scratch is bit distracting, as it happens to sit in compositionally important place on the image. No other things, looks great.

[RayenD]

All right, you got my vote! :) Great illustration!

[Arctis]

Beautiful work, though I think you could add more ships activity around the main ship...
I really hope we'll see more works from you !
Good luck ! :scream:

[ebrowning]

WOW!! BEAUTIFUL!! This image is fantastic- great work!

[MDN67]

Very gret pic, extremly detailled, a very good work, good luck

[kengi]

thx guys... :)

azazel, that kind of scratches usually sits in compositially important place ;)
arctis you are right, no time unfortunetly.


btw. i've made up a story:

Cardinal Draschaounteaunt is getting back home on the deck of his cathedral ship. Although he sees a Nebula destroying his World he's not afraid. He's a believer. He knows he will go to hell... :twisted:

[Aethyrprime]

Great work Krzysiek! Nice designs, details, workmanship. Nice vision. Well done man!

[NinjaA55N]

Love it! The architecture, the technique, the colors.. nothing to crit.. really. Good luck!

[Maxter]

The ships are impressive:eek:

Great concept

Good luck:thumbsup:

[element5]

WOW! This came up awesome I love the look of the whole image....Goodluck to you :thumbsup:

[Bakter]

What a unique idea! I`m wondering… polish artists always have surprises. Not accidentally Beksinski one of my favorite painters.
Congrat to you! :thumbsup:

[ebrowning]

I'm back to compliment you a second time. I've spent so much time looking at your painting, it's one of my favorites in the competition. Very inspiring and also technically excellent.

[kengi]

big thanks for your support guys :) :love:
you'r making my face smiling :thumbsup:

[sandu22]

very good job and nice ideea. I like the cromatics, and the main ship.good luck

[cgkrusty]

Congrats man... awesome job!

[Tranchefeux]

Hi, All my compliment for your price. :applause:

[Fahrija]

hi kengi,

congrats to honorable mention - a great image with beautiful brush flow and powerful design.

best regards
fahrija

[ebrowning]

Congratulations- I have to say though that your piece is my favorite in the entire competition. Really excellent.

[Tommy Lee]

We did it,... congrats for honorable mention. Stunning piece and should been ranked muuuuuch higher:thumbsup:

Cheerz

Tommy Lee

[Irratio]

Sorry, I wasn't there to vote, just wanted to say that your piece is my favourite.
It looks just like a still image from Zdzislaw Beksinski's "Laputa - Castle in the sky" :).

[kengi]

thax all!!!


here are my brushes used for this challenge, as i promissed (photoshop cs):
http://www.cgtalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65370

Irratio, is it possible i like beksinski works, and know them pretty well, but cannot remeber this witch you are talking about, if you could provide a link would be nice. thanks.

[Irratio]

Laputa - Castle in the Sky actually isn't Beksinki's work, but an Anime by Hayao Miyazaki.
In the film there is a warship named Goliath (http://www.derbaron.ch/werke/laputa/galerie/filmszenen/seiten/171.htm), it looks like a dark cloud sent by the gods.
Then I thought, if a surrealist like Zdzislaw Beksinski ever was to produce his own version
of Gulliver's Travels (http://www.jaffebros.com/lee/gulliver/bk3/index.html), it would have affected me similarly. Alas, I believe, this wouldn't be
his style. So Im glad that you exist, too.

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