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lostpencil
10-21-2004, 11:05 PM
Paul Mikulecky has entered the Grand Space Opera 2D.

lostpencil
10-21-2004, 11:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098400422_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098400422_large.jpg)

This is my version of one of the most exotic known star systems named SS433. From astronomical observations, a massive star is locked in orbit with a compact object (black hole or a neutron star). Material is being transfered from the massive star to the compact object into an accretion disk - energy jets are blasting out of the poles of the compact object.

My chages/addition to the actual observational data is a civilization that has created a semi-ring world anchored to an existing planet that orbits this binary system.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

sochira
10-22-2004, 12:00 AM
nice start!

element5
10-22-2004, 01:35 AM
nice start, good luck to you :thumbsup:

lostpencil
10-23-2004, 05:27 PM
Thanks folks! It's a quick thumbnail that I up-resed. I think the planet needs to be a bit smaller and the gas extrusion from the giant star needs to be worked on, but I think I like the general direction it is heading. Thanks again!

lostpencil
10-23-2004, 08:23 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098562988_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098562988_large.jpg)

This is the result of a value study I did using my initial composition.

chino
10-23-2004, 10:39 PM
this is very good. looking forward for developments.

create, imaginate.

lostpencil
10-26-2004, 05:04 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098767095_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098767095_large.jpg)

Here is a color test. I'm thinking the sun will be a red giant. Blue giants are a bit hot for a semi-ring world to be so close. Red's are much cooler. I also played around with the values and they are pretty much the reverse of my previous value test. Not sure if I'm totally happy with it...

JTD
10-26-2004, 09:45 PM
I love the story, butÖ.



I donít see it when I look at the composition. In fact, itís kind of hard to tell what is going on in the picture (I should know because I canít tell whatís going on in my Grand Space Opera challenge picture! :shrug: :) ).



Maybe you could come at this with another perspectiveótop down, farther away, etc., etc., Try including a space ship or two for perspective and use their shadows for a volumetric lighting effect so we could see some depth. Great concept. Keep going.

lostpencil
10-26-2004, 10:06 PM
Hey JTD,

Thanks for the feedback! I think the problem may be in that it is still a thumbnail. I'm just getting the layout of where I want things to be... blocking things in. The foreground elements are ships (the ball shapes), below/under them is part of the ring world that is closest to us. I'm going to make sure we can see two of its sides (the ring's back and top faces). I think things will be more clear when I get into the details. Anyway, hope that clears things up a bit.

lostpencil
10-27-2004, 09:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098913597_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1098913597_large.jpg)

Here is the line art for the shot. Hopefully the details make it more clear. Comments?

Speaky
10-28-2004, 10:22 AM
Hi Lostpencil, it's a good start. I think the concept is nice and Sci-Fi, but maybe you need to make sure you're addressing the 'opera' part of the challenge... it needs some added drama even though your premise is exciting enough!

I would say I prefer the value setup in the first monochromatic sketch too, the colour study seems to have very middling values when you need to make sure you have your darks and lights present to stop it looking flat. This might be hard if using red as the primary light source as red you can only saturate it to 100%, you don't have the option of adding white to make it brighter. Having said that though, it could be an interesting pic if it was all bathed in red sunlight and the semi-Ring was self lit with white and green lights. I'm just thinking aloud, I know this is an early stage yet.

One last thing, I'm not 100% sure which object the semi-ring is orbiting, the neutron star or the bigger, planet sized object?

Anyways, I like the concept, and I'm keen to see how this one develops! :thumbsup:

techart
10-28-2004, 11:26 AM
nice story..nice start ...keep it up..cheers

element5
10-28-2004, 10:24 PM
coming along nicely, no crits here :thumbsup:

lostpencil
10-29-2004, 04:43 PM
Hey Folks,

Thanks a bunch for the feedback and encouragement. I haven't done very much 2d so this is a real 'challenge' for me.

Hey Speaky, very good comments. Lots to think about. I'm now considering adding an action section where the ships are attacking the ring world. Explosions, ship trails, tracer fire from turrets...something like that. Maybe that will add to the 'opera' feel. I like the monochromatic value test as well... so I'm going to rethink my color scheme. As for what it is orbiting. Having taken another look at it, you are right, it is confusing. Originally I had the ring world 'connected' to the planet. So I either have to make the connection clear or considering removing the planet or moving it behind the ring world.

Thanks a bunch! This is great.

lostpencil
10-29-2004, 07:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1099078720_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4543/4543_1099078720_large.jpg)

Here is a revision of the line art. Incorporating some of the comments. Please let me know what you think.

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