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Artie
10-20-2004, 05:14 PM
Ales Horak has entered the Grand Space Opera 2D.

Artie
10-22-2004, 07:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1098468419_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1098468419_large.jpg)

So boys and girls, there is great example of amateur sketching and poor coloring ;)
But, it is only for polishing of the basic idea about the second genesis of human race in my mind. Simply - concept sketch.

Hecartha
10-24-2004, 01:58 PM
considering your last work i've seen in cgtalk gallery, this sketch should be the first step of an amazing final :) I'll wait for the development! Good luck Artie

cLos71
10-24-2004, 04:53 PM
Any new developments concept developments?

Artie
10-24-2004, 06:36 PM
Not yet. I am refining the main idea - adding some conflict to the picture, which won't be looking so pathetic ;)

Markski
10-24-2004, 07:35 PM
I really like the way you have the foreground and background setup. It should look great once finely detailed.

dgpilot
10-24-2004, 08:01 PM
heh, dont worry about the quality of your sketch. Heck I barely put any effort into mine, always save my energy for the real canvas.
Concept layout is great though, should be a great piece :)

Artie
10-25-2004, 05:52 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1098723167_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1098723167_large.jpg)

Well, here is second sketch. It's a war, ladies. Shoot or be shot! ;)

NinjaA55N
10-25-2004, 09:36 PM
Nice update. I would resize the format a bit... so it would be not so usual A4-like. I think it will give a whole new feeling to the pic, make it less ordinary.
Of course i dont doubt about an exelent final result, seeing ur previously made pictures :)

Artie
10-26-2004, 11:15 AM
I agree, format is not very artistic, but practical. Hmm... i will see :)
Thanks for confidence ;)

g-nome
10-26-2004, 02:16 PM
nice...it has a life in it

Artie
10-26-2004, 08:51 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1098820308_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1098820308_large.jpg)

I am not entirely sure about soldiers - what a weapon I should to give them? Decent semi-real weapons or really BIG guns? What do you think, boys? :)

JTD
10-26-2004, 10:21 PM
This is a great concept with a gritty color palette that I like, but….



I am disturbed by the woman holding her hand up in pep-rally-style victory while her brother-in-arms struggles with his mortality on his hands and knees. To me, it looks unnatural. There is too much of a schism between the two subjects that it almost looks like they aren’t in the same place. If there was more of a connection between the two it would blend the composition together. For example, maybe she could be kneeling beside him with her arm on his back, either looking at him or looking at the battle. Or put one of his arms on the flag and have him half-kneeling as if he’d just been shot—although that would assume that the spiders are using guns. I don’t know. I just don’t feel right about grouping them together in complete opposite reactions. Keep going, it’s great so far. Oh, and I'm with the "smaller guns" crowd. Yeah, there are about three of us.

idiot box
10-26-2004, 10:52 PM
Nice start, I like it, JTD does have a poitn, but you may have your own explanation. Nonetheless keep up the good work!

WazaR
10-27-2004, 02:23 AM
You can NEVER go wrong with BFG's.

On a more serious note this is a refreashingly striking image. I think it very well fullfils the concepts of a epic dramatic sci-fi illustration. I can tell that you have a good vocabulary of sci-fi; I can see bits of STARSHIP TROOPERS, SOLIDER, TERMINATOR 2, RED STAR, BATTLEFIELD EARTH, DOOM and UNREAL.

Colorwise I think that you have choosen a perfect range of gamma to protary human warfare.

On the topic of the composition, I would say that some work should be done. Principly I would say that the main femal firgure is not imposing engouh, she seems tucked away of in some corner and it makes her stand lose some of its power. Also there appears to be a disharmony between the top and bottom of your image,... the comp. lines just dont flow freely between the two. Also, try and define a more preceptable "line of action". All the elements in the comp. seem like sepearte entities, and the line of action just simply do not flow from one theme into the next.

Overall this is a great epic work, and has alot of potencial.

Buena suerte amigo.

newcenturydsn
10-27-2004, 03:05 AM
nice work Horak! The scene is well laid out, as far as the guns go, nothin wrong with a good old 12 gauge slug to put a hole in....well pretty much anything, i'd have to choose D for my weapon of choice.

Artie
10-27-2004, 08:54 AM
newcenturydsn: If do you want to use my first name, use correct one please. But thanks... ;)
jtd, ibox, wazar: I wanted make the hero like demi-god, unrelated with soldiers and their "problems". But you're right, looks too static and it is hard to seize - I repaint some parts.
Thanks for the suggestions, there is still too many things what I must to learn :)

NinjaA55N
10-28-2004, 12:29 AM
From what have u shown, i suggest a C weapon. But i think u can do better thatn this. I think it will be a nice touch putting something familliar to Aliens (Alien2 - the one with marines) weapons. Not the same but somethink looking alike.

Artie
10-28-2004, 11:15 AM
Ofcourse, this is fast concept sketch only. Thanks for opinion :)

techart
10-28-2004, 12:28 PM
nice so far,..but why are they naked......what is the story?...cheers

Artie
11-01-2004, 08:41 PM
Because sketch ;) I think that good picture need not background story. Picture itself must be the story. I have only some sketchy background ideas in my mind, but story must be in the result, in my opinion.

Artie
11-01-2004, 08:44 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1099341853_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4342/4342_1099341853_large.jpg)

Something like final sketch/lineart.... ehm ;)

bakbek
11-01-2004, 08:49 PM
Good colors and better composition in the last one. I agree with you about the picture telling the story… but a synopsis would do you nothing but good.

Ronen.

NinjaA55N
11-01-2004, 09:43 PM
Final sketch? Line out? It looks more like coloring process to me ;) joke... it looks great and everytime more and more promesing! Keep up the good work!

Borro
11-01-2004, 11:20 PM
I see you've really captured the mood of a iconic image... you just have to tough up the details, to hit the bulls-eye :) keep it up

Artie
11-02-2004, 09:29 AM
Thanks, boys ;)

ninja: Yep. When I am sketching, I am thinking about colors too. It is hard to define into this competition categories. Simply, something like lineart ;)

STARBUCK
11-04-2004, 09:22 AM
Very nice work dude!
I love the lightning mood. I think there is too much space left empty on the top left part of your picture (maybe some space ships more would be nice).

Keep on working hard and good luck to you for the contest!

element5
11-05-2004, 11:46 AM
A very nice start indeed, The colour, the composition....everything looks great :scream:

techart
11-08-2004, 06:40 PM
nice drawing...keep it up....love the composition

bigjoe
11-10-2004, 05:19 PM
yes composition is working nicely!

Artie
11-12-2004, 08:15 AM
Thanks for the opinions, boys :)

starbuck: I agree, we have the same idea. See in the next wip picture (If I beat my laziness) ;)

walrus
11-12-2004, 08:11 PM
Artie -

Really nice work so far. I really dig the colors that you are using, and I like the strong characters in the foreground. I think it works a lot better with the woman firing rather than just being a standard-bearer, it adds a nice feeling of action. Why sis you choose to add the large beam in the middle of the picture? I'm not sure that it's working as well as it could for you. Right now it breaks up the composition some and sort of pushes the crashed spaceship - which I thought was really neat - off the page. Ditto the ships in the sky. I also like the feel of them being in a more desolate place in the earlier concepts and this new element sort of makes it look moe like an urban setting, but you could also push the furthest bparts of the background more to develop this theme. Anyhow, great work and best of luck with it!

-mike

JTD
11-19-2004, 06:47 PM
Wow, you really take our suggestions seriously. I definitely like this piece. I can feel the emotion in the fallen man and I love how she is protecting him. My only crit now is that I’m not sure who she is shooting at but that in no way takes anything from this work of yours. This art piece can only get better. Great job, Artie.

Artie
12-14-2004, 08:33 AM
So, boys. It is sad, but I have no time to finish the picture. Maybe next time :/

Good luck to all! :)

NinjaA55N
12-14-2004, 10:16 AM
damn... so many great artists cant finish this challenge.. so many good artworks will be gone :( other time than. Good luck!

Freefall Alpha
12-14-2004, 11:43 PM
i say weapon c

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