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rogfa
10-19-2004, 09:58 PM
Roger Adams has entered the Grand Space Opera 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/view_entries.php?challenger=4197)

Latest Update: Final Image: Final Image
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105982208_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105982208_large.jpg)

Congratulations to everyone! This was a lot of fun and a great learning experience. Till next time...

rogfa
10-21-2004, 06:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098336257_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098336257_large.jpg)

My idea is of an evacuation or "traveling to a new world" concept seen through the eyes of a child. Her hands are pressed against the window of another ship.

rogfa
10-21-2004, 06:26 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098336401_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098336401_large.jpg)

Fleshing out the sketch some more. I want this piece to be happy and have a sense of wonder.

Kirt
10-21-2004, 07:57 AM
Hey Roger - just a thought ... but I think you should pull back a bit to show a little of the interior of the ship in which the girl is travelling. I think it will help tell the story better. Right now it's not entirely clear why the girl is in the image with the spaceships.

I love the idea of this one though. Children can be a great source of inspiration and wonder ... I have 4 kids and they never cease to amaze me.

Good luck with the challenge. :thumbsup:

rogfa
10-22-2004, 06:38 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098423515_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098423515_large.jpg)

Thanks Kirt! That was a great suggestion. I might pull back even further as it really helps the storytelling.

rogfa
10-22-2004, 06:41 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098423672_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098423672_large.jpg)

Keeping with the same concept but pulled back even more.

zem
10-22-2004, 06:59 AM
wow, I think the new concept really makes the image "pop". It's a matter of personal taste of course, but I feel it's a bit empty. Perhaps put in a couple on the far right, hugging, to balance the picture?Looking good. Keep emī coming.

Kirt
10-22-2004, 07:10 AM
:thumbsup: Looking much better. Now you just need to make the portal look more like it's on a ship and not just a doorway from a building. You can probably adjust your outside perspective (not one point) so that it gives the viewer the impression that they are in flight.

You probably want to keep the ships going towards the city but just angle the view a bit off of center. Hope that makes sense ... :D

Your 3rd sketch has a better feeling of being in flight.

rogfa
10-22-2004, 05:17 PM
Thanks for the help, guys! Zem, that's a good idea -- it is does look pretty empty. I might change the scene and make it a bridge of a ship with technicians and soliders etc.

Kirt, Arrrggg, you found my weakness:)! My perspective skills are not that strong but I will keep at it. I appreciate all the help.

After re-reading the challenge about a dozen more times now I'm not sure if this concept fits it fully. I'm thinking of changing this to a montage piece like a Struzan poster. This is really a tough one.

jal
10-22-2004, 05:45 PM
wow. that last sketch has a lot of potential. maybe a huge blast or intense lightsource coming from the background would add a more urgent feel to this peice. great ideas you have here :]

rogfa
10-24-2004, 02:59 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098583146_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098583146_large.jpg)

I'm playing with a new angle from my other concepts. I want to have a character in tears as she sees her planet come under attack. We can see the battle taking place as a reflection from her ship.

rogfa
10-24-2004, 03:02 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098583322_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098583322_large.jpg)

I really want to zoom in on the character but not have to sacrifice the landscape.

rogfa
10-25-2004, 08:05 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098731120_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1098731120_large.jpg)

I want this character to be watching her planet with her hands pressed against the window of her ship being powerless to stop it. The destruction will be seen as a reflection.

igino
10-30-2004, 09:22 PM
hi rogfa!

I like the unusual idea of your first concept. The second concept is very nice aswell. Actually, I like it a bit more, since you seem to take a more realistic approach. The reflection in the glas will be a great feature in your picture. If you want to spice it up a little, you might want to change the point of view slightly in order to avoid the frontal look. Maybe from down left up right?

Btw: Thanks a lot for your comment!

Cheers,
igino

rogfa
11-04-2004, 01:34 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1099532073_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1099532073_large.jpg)

I'm still playing with the concept some more. Making the character a little girl again and playing with the angle of the shot. Thanks for all the help everyone.

element5
11-04-2004, 03:42 AM
I really like the idea of the scene reflecting on her window.....Has more depth....great work I am enjoying watching :)

rogfa
01-10-2005, 05:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105376879_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105376879_large.jpg)

I abandoned my earlier concept. I was just coming across too many problems that I could resolve. So, I worked out something with more of an action setting. The idea is two protagonists are fleeing from the last guard of an occupying race.

rogfa
01-10-2005, 05:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105376982_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105376982_large.jpg)

I created a new layer in painter and started sketching out the idea. I find I will always hurry this step to get to the actual painting.

rogfa
01-10-2005, 05:11 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377062_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377062_large.jpg)

Nothing more than establishing my horizon and putting down color.

rogfa
01-10-2005, 05:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377156_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377156_large.jpg)

I think I went a little nuts on the clouds but I'm hoping my final crop will focus on the main elements.

rogfa
01-10-2005, 05:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377269_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377269_large.jpg)

Blocked in the local color and established my light source. The light source it technically behind and to our left so they really should be more backlit.

rogfa
01-10-2005, 05:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377544_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105377544_large.jpg)

I played around with several types of weapons the guard would be carrying. I tried to stay away from swords for obvious reasons. I tried batons and axes but decided on a spear instead. Also, I started putting down a grid to help with the storytelling. The heros are fleeing the last capital ship that is going up in smoke and the guard is determined to get revenge for his leaders.

walrus
01-10-2005, 05:25 PM
Beautiful colors, and the clouds look great! Looking at your perspective guidelines, though, it doesn't feel like the ship fits in with the perspective of the rest of the piece. I suspect that a simple back-view would work better in a shot with less extreme perspective going on. Anyhow, good luck with it!

-mike

rogfa
01-10-2005, 07:16 PM
Thanks Walrus, let me first say your entry looks amazing! You can tell you put in a lot of thought and work into it. Great job!

I know what you mean, the ship is kinda distracting. I wanted to make it look like it was banking to the side or on another trajectory but I'm not sure if it's going to read that way. I've got my fingers crossed that the final piece will make sense :)

rogfa
01-12-2005, 08:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105560965_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105560965_large.jpg)

Added the capital ship that's going to be in flames, multiple views of the ship the main characters are flying and changed the pose of the standing character.

rogfa
01-16-2005, 07:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105905307_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105905307_large.jpg)

Changed the capital ship and the poses of a characters.

rogfa
01-17-2005, 01:14 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105924453_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105924453_large.jpg)

I really have a lot of admiration for those that can paint to a photo or near-photo realistic style. One day I hope to reach that level. Until then here's a closeup of the details of my piece.

rogfa
01-17-2005, 01:15 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105924536_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105924536_large.jpg)

I think this is it. I cropped a little of the image and darkened the edges to focus the eye a little more. I'll sleep on it tonight and submit my final tomorrow.

rogfa
01-17-2005, 05:16 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105982208_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/6/4197/4197_1105982208_large.jpg)

Congratulations to everyone! This was a lot of fun and a great learning experience. Till next time...

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