Grand Space Opera 3D Entry: Mauricio Bartok

[BartokDesign]

last update

http://operacontesttttt.weblogger.com.br/img/composition2.jpg

[dcmoutinho]

hi bartok ?
nice sketch, good look...

[tabajara]

welcome onboard my friend!

good luck!

[JRBRAZ]

Good Luck.

LEgal vc estar participando tb.

[BartokDesign]

To understand better what Im talking about. This are very fast sketches as u can see , just to focus the idea.
Cya
http://www.3dgar.com/img/bartok/contestnaverobo.jpg

[BartokDesign]

Just started the robo body .

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294217_medium.jpg

http://www.3dgar.com/img/bartok/wirecorpo.jpg

[BartokDesign]

Going slow but never stop , here is a little up of the robo , I think he will be sat on the ship instead of the terrible draw , to show how subimiss he is to the ship.

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294400_medium.jpg

[markovicd]

hey man nice start...
what do u think to make a bunch of these guys diffrent :D
and to put them in the sky like they are going in war ?
think about it :P

[MacSilva]

That is a great idea Bartok! I wish you all the luck. And the first ups are looking very nice!

Hope you go allthe way.

Inte

[idegar]

Hey Bartok!
Nice start!
About the concept, I think that's really cool and it's orignal and I think the originality depends on the scene and characters , not only the theme!

Good Luck mano!

[BartokDesign]

Hey markovicid , the idea is about the relationship between the robo pirate and the ship . Thanx for ur comments . :thumbsup:

Thanx MacSilva I hope I cant finish it.

I agree idegar , space pirates are not original as I said in my first post , but I like the idea of enemies sociaty for a porpouse.

Sorry for my english

[BartokDesign]

up. up up up up

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294503_medium.jpg

[BartokDesign]

I cant delete this double post.
:eek:

[mosconariz]

Cool Idea, Can't wait to see the result!

U R nuts :buttrock:

[adr]

Nice to see you again bartok , the progress with your model is looking nice. Ill keep an eye with your project , good luck :)

[BartokDesign]

Thank u mosconariz :buttrock:

thank u too adr u crazy mexicans

[BartokDesign]

Starting the head , Ill finish all parts than detail them.
:thumbsup:
http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/rocomcabe.jpg

[Drezere]

do caralho..
o formato do torax fico bem louco..
soh a cabeça me parece muito tradicional pro desenho do resto do corpo.

parabens rei dos infernos!

[seijuro]

nice...

good luck :D

[]'s

[BartokDesign]

Ups , and a better render . Now Im thinking about the ship..........

Thanx Seijuro.

http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/pernas.jpg

http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/pernadcostas.jpg

[dcmoutinho]

nice render, the model it´s great to...
keep going:thumbsup:

[BartokDesign]

http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/pes.jpg

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[Emmanuel Rodrigues]

I´ve been watching your job and i think, it´ll be a nice job, keep your mind busy, good luck!!!

Rambo!!!:bounce:

[YasushAzush]

Great Work
I am Waiting For A Rusty Texture:thumbsup:
Keep Working

[BartokDesign]

Thanx Emmanuel


Hey Visualact the textures will be a challenge to me . Im thinking about it always but I need the courage to start , maybe tonight.Your Space opera is looking great :thumbsup:

[BartokDesign]

Well Im playng with textures a little I was tired of modeling .
This is not the way I want , maybe it should be more opaque.
The texture was made for the arm only thats the cause of it looking weird in the body.
Any help is welcome.:)

Arm Texture , only arm texture......

http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/redrobo.jpg
http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/basebraco.jpg

[YasushAzush]

Wow Great

Maybe If You Clean Off That What ever Color You Have In Bak And Repalce it With A dark Gray And A Spot Light Wirh A Sky Light Will Help It Too.
Good Luck:thumbsup:

[Emmanuel Rodrigues]

Nice job Bartox, it´ll become a very good job, but i think could be better if you´d make another light. good luck!!!

Rambo!!!

[BartokDesign]

Thanx emmanuel , the light is just to test the textures.



Visualact , Im thinking about making a mask to define where it will reflect more light , like the silver parts . Thanx for your help I aprecciate that.:thumbsup:

[Zaworc]

Portuguese: E aeew Bartok? ta muito bom cara.... muito bom mesmo, parabéns pelo seu trabalho, eu estou gostando muito... mais Ups, plzzz...
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English: Good you the very... very good one exactly, congratulations for its work, I am liking very... more Ups, plzzz...

[YasushAzush]

Ok OK OK Lets See What You Say
Good Luck

[BartokDesign]

Im thinking about the composition , maybe I will put some action on it , like the pirate fighting his old fellows to defend the ship.

this textures are not fnished , they were done only for the arm , put I aplyed it in all the robo to have an idea of how it would look .
comments are welcome.
http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/maolado.jpg
http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/maoteste.jpg

[nocric]

ok here come the thoughts:

the robot is good. like how cool the hand is done and the inventive way the leg moves.
i just cant notice the so cute you have designed. SO cute head. really cool that you even had the time to think about putting dents tu the brass, not just rust. btw rusting place need lesser bumb level or height (dunno how exactly call it in your program). overall nice work so far. and if i could make a suggestion, make a BIG/HUge opera, where the best can perform and alot of pep can listen to them sing.

maby the brass should not be so shiny, because it rusts.
maby the reflection should be more grainy.
maby the brass should be more colorful or orange/brown like the color of brass is...
other things: i have looked in a few threads and pep over there complain if there are. streching textures, so i suggest to fix that on the lower yaw. i really dont get if the foot and finger textures are sreching too.

NB!: pm me if i did something wrong about this reply to this post

[YasushAzush]

nice Texture
Do A Test With Mental ray And ratrace Shadow With Final Gather???
:applause:

[BartokDesign]

hey Nocric I liked your comments , Ill try to do most of what you said . about the textures , it was designed only for the arme , the other pieces arent even with the uvs , I apllyed the texture to have an ideia of how it would look .

Thanx for the crits :thumbsup:

Visualact , I made a better light with the pose that I think will be the final , but the disk where I saved is crashed so Ill bring it tomorrow .

Here is the concept of the ship.
http://mascotenovooo.weblogger.com.br/img/naveee.jpg

[BartokDesign]

modeling the ship
http://operacontesttttt.weblogger.com.br/img/navee.jpg

[Emmanuel Rodrigues]

nice concept Bartox, it´ll be great job, keep going.

:buttrock:

[YasushAzush]

NIce Start Of The Ship
More Detail Needed;)

[BartokDesign]

ok , im putting some details on the ship and thinking about the composition .
I think Ill put the robo in a instable position on the ship to make it more dramatic.
and the final render will look almost like this .
Now I made the textures corrections I guess.....
Comments are welcome.
http://operacontesttttt.weblogger.com.br/img/naverd.jpg


Thanx for you comments Emmanuel and Visualact.:thumbsup:

[YasushAzush]

bartok
the robot is cool but the hands need a little rest i mean rotate them don then the robot.
compossiting :: i forgot your concept "Many concept to remember"i will read and tell you ......

[mecman]

Great model Bartok!! Very interesting and original design!! I like it a lot!!!
The textures are awesome!!
Good luck my friend!!! I´ll be watching the progress!!

[idegar]

Hello Bartolo!
I like ur style.
Very crazy concept and textures.
It'll a great job!
Goood luck broda.

[BartokDesign]

Visualact , are you thinking this cause it looks too robotic to you? It can be , but he will be handing a gun on his right hand. Thanx for ur comments.


Mecman - Thanx , Im glad that you liked. You always had a good eye.

Idegar - Thanx Broda


He the first test with textures , Im worried about the black look in it , cause in our culture black represents evil , and ppl inside the ship ,are not evil they are just victims.
humn...
cooments are welcome
:)
http://operacontest.weblogger.com.br/img/navpreta.jpg

[lehmi]

I like really like it... maybe a little bit too shiny... looks as if it's wet.
You may want to either push the bump amount or the shinyness down a bit.


I have to say that I really like your robot... big bodys with small heads are just great... I love this kind of "set up" since I first saw 5th element!

keep it up!

[YasushAzush]

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn great ship:thumbsup:
I can see some bump on that, what are those for?:sad:

[BartokDesign]

Thanx Lehmi , the lighting I will setup with the robot . I like small headed robots too .:thumbsup:



Visualact there is no funcion for the bump , its ilustrative. I just want to have the huge ship effect . Thanx for your comments again ehehe .
:)

[Lelantos]

I really like your robot
cool start on the ship this is going great i love to see more of this:thumbsup:

[RJofVFX]

I like the models, they have an interesting shape. 'Though I liked the robo better when he was not textured... in that first render you posted. I thought it'll be more shiny and clear... My impression is that the ship and the robo are a bit "overtextured", if you know what I mean. Otherwise, it's cool!

[BartokDesign]

Lelantos - Thanx very much

Liveman - Yeah maybe it could be simpler , but I like messy robots too, lets see how it will look in the end , its hard to get the way I want. I wanted something like that draws in old lunch box. eheheh it would be funny , I think that is pure space opera.

Do u remember this? ehehehe
http://www.brianstoys.com/acatalog/TF_NECA_LunchBox_Battle.jpg

[RJofVFX]

Ah, good old tranformers... I can't wait for the movie to come out! Anyway, I like to keep things simple.... but who am I to say something about work? I entered the challenge, and I haven't even done a concept sketch! Just keep up the good work! I hope I'll get to the phase you're in now!

[HelderConde]

Hi Bartok!

Just wanted to say that the robot and the concept you've been showing us looks great!

The robot design is so cool! So unusual! I do believe that sometimes it's difficult to get away from the usual concepts we're used to see. You create a robot that's different from anything else I've seen.

Also, nice work on the textures. Really cool. And the modeling seems very clean, very well done.

Can't wait to see where this thing goes. Keep up the great work, man!

Sim, eu entendo isso.d

Regards,

Helder Conde
Atitude Digital Media
Brazil

[BartokDesign]

Thanx for the support liveman , about ur entry , you have to start man. :thumbsup:

Hey Helder Im glad that you liked it , I liek the robo too , but its hard now to deal with lights and the effects that Im thinkinh. Hope to get close to it in the end.


And here is a Sketch for the gun .

http://operacontesttttt.weblogger.com.br/img/arma.jpg

[claudiojordao]

Olá BartokDesign, long time no see :) your robot looks very cool, and I also think that your great space-ship is too much shiny and bumpy!
E se permites, acho q o aspecto da nave não é muito coerente com o robot, acho q lhe faltam aqueles exageros fantásticos q o robot tém... entende isso :)

[Daniel-McMillan]

Excellent job on your robot & ship!


-DM

[BartokDesign]

Hey claudio Thanx for ur comments, Your entry is my favorite till now. :applause:

Well talking about my stuff Ill put less bump.

E sobre a nave me preocupei em deixar bem diferente do robo , pra deixar esplicito que sao de raças diferentes , mas talvez esteja muito serio o modelo. Vou pensar.

Daniel McMillan - Thanx man :thumbsup:

[dcmoutinho]

hi Bartok, very nice, keep going...

[BartokDesign]

Thanx Dcmoutinho.



Im doing some tests and trying to imagine the final scene.

Comments are welcome.

http://operacontesttttt.weblogger.com.br/img/composition.jpg

[arturro]

I love this guy! He looks as kind of an easy going dude:bounce: your textures also rock!
good luck, I'm waiting for next updates

[Emmanuel Rodrigues]

Hey bartox, nice concept, just work out a litlle bit, ive liked the scratch about the gun, good luck...

[LAURO_MX]

good work Bartok!
i like the robot, look likes megaman robots
the textures is great too! congrats

keep going dude
see it...
Abraço aew mano:thumbsup:
força aew

[BartokDesign]

Arturro - Thanx I hope I have some ups tomorrow

Emmanuel - Thanx . I will....

Lauro - Thanx for ur comments . I dont remember a robo like this in mega man . But as I said in another thread its impossible to be totaly original .

Cya.
:thumbsup:

[Emmanuel Rodrigues]

Nice concept you always have good ideas!!

Rambo Brutal

[Emmanuel Rodrigues]

im sorru about my last post, i think youre doing a great job, but you should use photoshop to make the enviroment real, maybe puting some fog and fire, and you need work out the background. thats it.

Rambo brutal

[Lelantos]

man that giant robot is very nice and great texturing:thumbsup:

maybe you find a camera looking at the robot from down - up near the giant robot to make it look massive and more scary, just an idea.

keep it up man great job :thumbsup:

[BartokDesign]

uh...Thanx emmanuel .

Lelantos - I agree with you , Im trying some things . But its hard to find time now.
Cya

[BartokDesign]

the gun , and some tests , off course I wont copy the robots like I did in this test. Coments are welcome.
http://operacontesttttt.weblogger.com.br/img/composition2.jpg

[BartokDesign]

What is wrong?
I have few comments .
Im just on this contest to learn .
Hope u can help me.....
:shrug:

[markovicd]

well... i like the image... but it needs more work... more detail ... + there is to much blur :(

[arturro]

Hi there! I like your tests very much... and here are my 2 cents to improve it:
- In my opinion the mech should have more bended legs, and the body should be generaly posed lower, it would add more realism and dynamism
- It would look nice if he in his left hand held the gun like it is now in the right hand, the body woul dbe bended towards camera, and right arm with a gun also would be targeted into the sky in the direction of the left upper corner of th epicture... (I hope you got what I mean, because by my description I'm not sure if I understand it:))
- falling mechs should have arms up
- ship is great, but it would be good if some small plates, or other parts came off the part of the ship where the main mech is...
that's all for now:) I hope some of this would be helpful! I'll be back here:twisted:

[Divaise]

very cool man :) I Like it you learn a lot from this work I'm sure... I wish you luck and remember that you should work day and night to improve your works... Good Luck :thumbsup: :applause:

[BartokDesign]

Markovicd - Do you mean the closer part of the ship right? I did this to make it less static. Thanx for your crit.

Arturro - You were very helpful , I agree with almos everything you wrote. Except about the gun , I think the way it is gives a look of surprise ..... Thanx for your help.

Divaise - yeah ,I learned alot in this work:D , good luck to you too.

[Aethyrprime]

Hey man please please check this out-

You must submit all steps through the following link or else you will not get any credit whatsoever for your efforts and with efforts as nice as these you have to submit properly.

LINK YOU MUST USE TO GET CREDIT FOR ENTRY WIP:
CGNetworks - Submit Challenge Entry (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/submit_entry.php)

Anyway, great work otherwise... keep it up.

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294053_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294053_large.jpg)

Ok my idea is about space pirates, not original talking this way , but imagine a giant pirate robot trying to rob a spaceship almost his size infested with little robots inside it . In the battle before all the ship guns being destroyed the robo looses his engine to fly. This way he is traped on the top of the ship and by other side becomes theyr only possibility of defense . The robo would never let them go home or he would be destroyed .
Hope u like it .

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294217_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294217_large.jpg)

Started the torso

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http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294400_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294400_large.jpg)

more torso

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294503_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294503_large.jpg)

another look

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294671_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294671_large.jpg)

finishing the head

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http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294748_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103294748_large.jpg)

another look

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http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295083_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295083_large.jpg)

no notes

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295162_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295162_large.jpg)

pose 1

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http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295219_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295219_large.jpg)

shipsketch

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295296_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295296_large.jpg)

ship starts

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295338_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295338_large.jpg)

ship

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295391_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295391_large.jpg)

test1

[BartokDesign]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295625_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4167/4167_1103295625_large.jpg)

test2

[YasushAzush]

owww:twisted: :eek:
nice and deep looking
but some thing very zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
the scales hase error

[Aethyrprime]

Glad to see you got this submitted properly. It woulda been a shame to not get credit for it. I was quite surprised to see that no one else had caught it... I guess I am more observant than a security gaurd ;)

[Lluc]

Hello guy ! very good job :thumbsup: and very original idea!

Good luck for all !

[claudiojordao]

Hey Bartok, nice job!
I was thinking... what if you only had one robot and one spaceship that is being broken in pieces by the robot, like he was playing with a toy or something? It's just an idea :)
Good job.

[BartokDesign]

Visualact - hi there , do u mean the robots behind?


||) |V| |^| - oh man thank you for this , I was going to loose it , you saved me hehehe , now my thread is a mess :eek: thanx dude .


Lluc - thanx man.


Claudio - thanx man , Ill do some tests with this idea yet , I dont known if ill have time to be changing it .


See u , sorry for the mess. :D

[YasushAzush]

ow BartokDesign sorry for the late.....
yes
wish you the best happy new yar ...
why you stop .....?:eek:

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