Grand Space Opera 3D Entry: Kory Heinzen

[KOryH]

hey thanks Doug and everyone else.
We are in the final strech!
good luck to all contentants.

I will try to post new stuff soon.
I am still struggling to find a composition I like.
I better do it soon.

see ya

[azazel]

Yeah, final stretch... that's when most work get's done :). Good luck :thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Excellent job Kory,really a appealing character,alot of personality and "character"........The environemnt tests too are beautiful,a very nice pallette of colors and tones,dreamy............Hope to see more real soon...........:arteest: :arteest:

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1104943955_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1104943955_large.jpg)

Here is another layout tweak. and some more lighting and the ships.
I did a few things in PS to help with the next time I am in 3D.

[theuni]

Hi KOryH,

nice update... just one proposal: Maybe there could be an additional strong lightning coming from the viewers place. Some alien light or whatever just cool enough to grap the attention of this explorer standing on this vine.

[KOryH]

Yeah I am planning on having quite a number of natives hiding in the jungle and one greeting.
they will have some lights with them. but I want to keep then mosly hidden.
I need to play with the contrast and all. that will come together in compositing and PS at the end.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

KoryH...i am glad u are still...man...why am i suspecting that your final compo will kick butt?...ehhh...why?.......:thumbsup::bounce::thumbsup:

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105434532_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105434532_large.jpg)

Well I started rendering and am doing everything in chunks and layers.
I will add some more atmosphere and mood in the final stage!

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105435023_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105435023_large.jpg)

here is a quick update.
I uploaded a pic that was a little too
early!

Final stages are fun and stressful.
ggod luck everyone!

[DimitrisLiatsos]

I like the last image as it progresses....minor thought..a little more light from front...just a little one ...Good luck man....:thumbsup:

[PeterSanitra]

The hair of the character is great, which software do you use?

[hectic]

hi, great work ... I like "3d made forest" in general :)

how did you make the moss ? some plugin, or hand painted ?

[KOryH]

Thanks guys for the comments.

For the hair and the moss I used Sasquatch in Lightwave. and comp'd it in .

Hey dimitris, Thanks. I will be playing with the foreground a bit later. I need to add some characters in there too. I will be doing some subtle volumetric light to add some atmospere and depth I think that will add to the overall tone of the picture.

See ya soon!

[terraarc]

Nice updates! :thumbsup:
Nothin to crit except that already mentioned by Dim...

So waiting for the full 3D perspective.. :bounce:

[emonimo]

Really nice work KOryH........ I'm really impresed I have missed this thread .....and what I can say is that its awesome and very inspirating work ..... hope you could finish it .... Good luck!!

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105522810_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105522810_large.jpg)

I finally added the ships. I also started setting up the layers a bit better and will be on to the final tuning and effect very soon.
Down to the wire!!! Yeah.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Oh my ..... Man....man....MAAAAANN ..:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup:

[KOryH]

Thanks Dim,
That means a lot.
Now to sleep while the computer works.

[Virtuoso]

Now to sleep while the computer works.

....................About the only way we can get sleep these days,good idea and a must in crunch time.......:)

It's turning out very nice KoryH.............A beautiful setting and a wonderful "Pivotal" moment in time......All well done and with a touch of class and elegance........very nice........:arteest:

[YasushAzush]

Nice job men .....why i lost this threat.....:((:eek::D very nice........
fantastic

[Nomad]

Niiiice update man :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The skull looks untextured.... errr... did I missed something or you just plan to texture it? :curious:

The ships looks awesome, that could be great to see one of them more from side... no?


Looking forward to see the finished picture :bounce:

[KOryH]

Yup rendering is when I sleep.
I can't wait to get a new computer.
It's like pulling teeth to get this image out.

As far as anything that doesn't look finished, well, hopefully it isn't!

We will see how this week goes!

Thanks for the comments and suggestions.

[markovicd]

First of all... nice picture and second about computer!

my computer is so retarded ... that when i work on this scene of mine ... i use move tool... it moves it in frames... ( u know what i mean )... and it is so hard to set the things right!

[SuperXCM]

AMAZING Pictures!! Nothing else to say... :eek: :eek: ....

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105605591_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105605591_large.jpg)

I am playing with all sorts of things.
Right now ther is too much haze.
I want to get back to the rich sky I had before. But this is what I have right now.
off to bed I go.

[MDN67]

WoW, very very nice pic, great style, ambiance and lighting, very good work

[MITRICH]

Good work :-)

[Gunilla]

Wonderful work right from the start - congrats and good luck :thumbsup:

[Saschi0815]

Very nice, Kory:thumbsup: Best wishes for the final.

Continue rockin'us, man!:buttrock:

[PeterSanitra]

JUST A LITTLE BUG. Must be only a postproduction mistake,in your erasing, upper left corner -
the dark branch ich overlaping the lighter;-)

[KOryH]

Thanks
Your comments help as I keep plugging away on this bad boy!

Darkone, Yeah lots to do on that tree. I hope to get to it!

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105692071_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105692071_large.jpg)

well I'm getting closer.
I have some more small fixes and the addition of some foreground characters if my computer is coopertive.
For this one I also added more detailing on the ship and cleaned up somethings here and there.
I hope you like it because I'm past the point of no return.

Best of luck to all.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

No my friend ..we don't like it.......we love it! :bounce: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bounce:

[igorstshirts]

No way... So nice.

[KOryH]

thanks Dim.
I can't wait to see your all together!
I am still amazed at some of the detail you and some other guys have in thier images.
It's very inspiring

[mv]

Looking really nice, great mood. I love how your composition tells a story when read from top to bottom.

Though, I think your image looks quite flat. You could achieve more depth by blurring the very close foreground elements and/or by making them bigger. And also by loosing some saturation and contrast on the furthest ships to make them feel like they're big and far.. The best, I think, would be to make some half inside the clouds.
Also, lighting wise, the athmosphere would benefit from a stronger backlit effect (since 2 suns are on the back of the image) , and subtle translucencies on cloth / vegetation / sails.

Good luck for the final sprint, all the best!

[PeterSanitra]

The skull idea is very good, but the skull is very hard to spot...

[azazel]

some shape of distant montains on the horizon would add to the depth of the scene as well.

[keetmun]

Watch out Kory! I can see the stretched UVs on the leaves on the front! I'm just hoping this turns out perfect, this is the GSO I'm not capable of!

Cheers!
:buttrock:

[Versiden]

whoa.. just insane man, you've done really well.. The vegetation rocks, and the little alien guy just tips it over the edge!

well done - on to the final

[Jaba153]

kory,your image is really beautyfull! i love the colours! the part i prefer is the foreground it's really dope! i have just a suggestion is maybe desaturate the last ship in the background...great work!

[KOryH]

Thanks for the comments and good suggestions.

Yeah it seems like I relly need to tune the ships a bit to get a better sence of depth and scale. It has been something that has bothered me. I am also thinking of a little DOF but not
too much. I would like to keep it illustrative as much as possible.

I will be finishing tonight.

Thanks for all the support, it has helped.

[theuni]

Hi KOryH,

maybe some light onto the bottom of the ships would give more depth feeling to the scene.

[KOryH]

Thanks theuni,
thats a good suggestion. I will be playing tonight, or tomorrow.

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105781208_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105781208_large.jpg)

well folks here it is.
Finished for now.
that is untill I look at it tomorrow and decide to fix something.
It's hard to say good bye to these little babies of ours, huh?
Its been a fun ride and lots of things have happened in my life and the world.

Stay safe and happy and dream of the stars.

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105781676_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105781676_large.jpg)

here is a snapshot of my desktop when I decided I was done. I thought some one might be interested in how tidy I keep
my shop.

[flyingP]

Dammit how'd I miss this, very nice, love the colours and composition, the little guys are very well camouflaged, I didn't see them to start with :blush: but I don't find it lets the picture down, rather it added nice AHA effect when I did see them :D

[KOryH]

Hey thanks P,

I am glad you had that experience. I hope this image will tell a little story.
It seems like you got it.

I was sad to see you go. that armor of yours was looking very cool!

[flyingP]

Hey thanks P,
I was sad to see you go. that armor of yours was looking very cool!

yeah I really should get around to 'finishing' a few more projects :blush: and I will do so..... although I really want to finish that 3D version of my Machine Flesh challenge first.... damn to do list keeps getting longer :argh:

and yes I think you have succeeded with telling a story with this piece, I'm impressed at any rate :thumbsup:

[Nomad]

Love it :love: :love: :love:

No crits, just saying good luck for the final :bounce:

[Versiden]

well done dude, it must be a great feeling of acomplishment. This is a great piece to add to your portfolio and I'm sure it will do very well for the competition.

Best of luck! :buttrock:

[monsitj]

stunning entry!i like it a lot ! i like your color remind me sci-fi classic! good luck

[MDN67]

...........................No critics, your pic is simply amazing, it's a great piece of art, profesional work, i love this pic all the élément are perfectli realised, non critics, wonderfull project, you are a master,..... simply good luck for the judging process

[markovicd]

congratz KORYH!

[KOryH]

Hey everyone!

Thanks for the kind words. It was a fun project and a fun process.

To all of you not finished yet...

go get 'em!

[KOryH]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105825895_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105825895_large.jpg)

I did a slight DOF pass.
I didn't know if I was going to have time but I did...so...here it is!

next I have to upload a huge tiff.
on my stupid dial up.
wish me luck!

[crazy3dman]

KOryH,

I just found this thread pretty recently, but I've been following it daily since I found it. From the concept to the final details, this is really top notch work. I love it.

Congratulations and good luck.

[apekki]

I love especially the mood and the colours. It's amazing stuff! Nothing to crit. :thumbsup:

[Virtuoso]

Kory...................It turned out beautiful......I am sure just as you had hoped........A very beautiful and elegant piece ......full of atmosphere and quaint charm........A wonderful mood......And a true artists touch........Just a big congrats on your efforts......and the results turned out both elegant and beautiful...........A pleasure to follow and a pleasure to see reach it's very high potential.......certantly one of my favorites........Great to have met you here,and all the best to you and your family,i'll see you somewhere down the road I sure hope.....Again wonderful piece of art through and through..........:buttrock: :arteest:

[ArtisticVisions]

Now that my entry is finished, I'm finally getting around to view some of the others. :D

I love the designs and theme that you choose to use: very original and creative. :)
The only thing I noticed (and this is just my own nitpick, so you can take it with a grain of salt) is that, if the explorer was offering his hand of friendship or whatever to the little inhabitant....
wouldn't the guy get on his knees so the little dude can reach him? :rolleyes:

[theuni]

WoW :eek: Beatiful :applause: Great Job you did here!

[KOryH]

thanks guys the nice comments are very appreciated.

And to V... I can't wait to see yours.

BTW I am STILL trying to uplaod that freakin tiff file
dial up sucks

[ArtisticVisions]

BTW I am STILL trying to uplaod that freakin tiff file
dial up sucks
Yes, it does. :D (took me 4-5 hours just to upload my tiff today)

[KOryH]

Yeah I've been bumped off a couple of times and had to start over.
I could probably fedex a cd faster than this AAAARRRGGG.
first thing I do when I win the lottery is to get cable or DSL.
well maybe second, I would pay a couple of bill
and bye a cool car oh and a kick a$$ plasma screen TV a new computer oh and.......
wel maybe high speed internet is lower down on the list than I thought.

huuh?

Any way thanks

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Awesome work...one of my favourites...congrats KoryH for a wonderfull image...hope to see u in another challenge again :)

[Virtuoso]

I hope it comes through well Kory........I am quessing with your skill level all you mentioned above is right around the corner.......Again beautiful work/art,and the best of luck to you.....:arteest: :arteest:

[sandu22]

very good job and nise expressive atmosphera in your final.good luck

[Nomad]

I love the final image :love:no comments, no crits just a big wooooow!! :bounce:


Good luck for the upload, it took me on friday one hour (55mb) and I have a cable (24kb/s)connection :argh:

[Agostinuke]

Really, really an impressive work. Cool.

But why Cristoforo has the right hand ready to the gun?

Anyway, bravo.

Good Luck


ago-stino

[lotaH]

Good Luck!!!

:thumbsup:

[Russel-Nash]

Wow, so many amazing threads I missed. This one is great. Congratulations. :thumbsup:

Russel

[Jaba153]

exellent final issue kory!great work and lovely colours!goodluck!yours & adel3D are my favorites finalimage!bravo!

[mr_carl]

Nw I´m really sorry I missed this one, exelent work and a verry nice result.

Congrats :applause:

Carl.

[KOryH]

I've received several questions about what the explorer is doing.

That’s a good thing. Questioning the image is what is supposed to happen.
This illustration is telling a story and it is up to you to come up with the outcome.
There are several things that can take place after this particular event.
It is left ambiguous in order for the viewer to bring his or her own opinions into the viewing of the picture.
Maybe it's a little sophisticated as compared to grotesque aliens and explosions and laser beams, but, come on, we are all artists and I expect a lot from you.

I am expecting you to enjoy pretty pictures AND think.
You deserve nothing less.

[arturro]

I've received several questions about what the explorer is doing.

That’s a good thing. Questioning the image is what is supposed to happen.
This illustration is telling a story and it is up to you to come up with the outcome.
There are several things that can take place after this particular event.
It is left ambiguous in order for the viewer to bring his or her own opinions into the viewing of the picture.
Maybe it's a little sophisticated as compared to grotesque aliens and explosions and laser beams, but, come on, we are all artists and I expect a lot from you.

I am expecting you to enjoy pretty pictures AND think.
You deserve nothing less.

great post my friend... I'm with ya!

[Squibbit]

hey this really turned out great in the end !

i had little doubts half way thru ... :blush:

[azazel]

Really, really an impressive work. Cool.

But why Cristoforo has the right hand ready to the gun?

Anyway, bravo.

Good Luck

ago-stino

Old latin saying seems at place here: "si vis pacem, para bellum" hehe not sure if it's intentional, but i kinda see it that way. ;)

[KOryH]

thanks arturro

squibbit don't worry I felt the same way. It took me a while to figure out how to do what i wanted to do.

azazel I am not sure what that means but it sounds good anyway.

it IS intentional that he is both reaching his hand out in friendship and for his gun.
what is his true nature?
Is he even the first explorer to be there.
what will the natives hiding in the jungle do next?
who is in greater danger, if any at all?


who knows?

[flyingP]

Ooohhh, so I really did understand it correctly :cool: :bounce:

[markovicd]

this image has best atmopshere in whole competition ... it seems like it is... cartoony but then it looks so real... and u know what i mean :D

[jdsb]

amazing is an understatement :scream:,all the best :bounce:

[emonimo]

Great and very original image Kory!! One of my prefer ones ....... Best luck for you!!:thumbsup:

[azazel]

Si vis pacem, para bellum: If you wish for peace, prepare for war ;)

[Agostinuke]

In this case, doen't seam that "historia magitra vitae est". :-)

By way, did you know that in the last Italian financial law 2005, our dear Silvio Berlsuconi has set up 2 millions of euros in the next 2 years, to finance the development of Cristoforo Colombo's "image"? And that the same law reserved, for example, only 500,000 euros to youth cultural projects?

No? I think that the majority of Italians don't know that either.

Good Luck. It's really a cool work...and I understand the meaning of that gun...don't worry.

bye


ago-stino


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[AirbORn]

WOW!! Congratulations!! I love the visuals and design of the ships, but the story in your entry is very nice. Good luck! :)

[mistermac]

Well done, this seems to me to have retained some of the painterly feel of your concept work. I like the grandness of the composition. A really nice piece.:thumbsup:

Good Luck

[BikiniBottom]

very cool image. I like the composition of colours. maybe a liitle bit more contrast, but time´s running out;-) very good work

[KOryH]

thanks so much everyone,
I am glad that the more illustrative style is appreciated. It took a long time to get that to happen.

ago-stino, that is very interesting.

azazel, OR prepare for war, but wish for peace.

thanks again

[Fahrija]

Wow, Koryh

I didn´t visit this thread since you started modeling. The perspective view is great. And the encounter has something mystic. The atmosphere is just beautiful.
A terrific piece of art.

Fahrija

[linda]

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL great work Koryh!

[fellah]

congratulations to finishing this between a baby and all. it's looks to be a massive amount of work involved in this pic, one of my absolute favourites in this challenge!

[Rochr]

Think i have a new favourite here! :)
A breathtaking piece, no doubt. :thumbsup:

[Climax]

WOW I came to your thread very long ago, but somehow i missed it development, I feel sorry for that, Great Picture pal! look amazing :thumbsup: GOOD LUCK!

[terraarc]

Splendid final! :thumbsup:

Wishing the best for such and inspiring entry! :)

[JamesMK]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105825895_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/4162/4162_1105825895_large.jpg)


Effing awesome! This one has everything! Normally I would say something semi-intelligent about it, but I don't even know where to start. Superb work.

[maxim capra]

Effing awesome! This one has everything! Normally I would say something semi-intelligent about it, but I don't even know where to start. Superb work.

agree. excellent work. it's not just modelled, textured and put together (somehow) - it's the work of someone who know what he does and worked for the athmosphere, not the technical things... and i must have said that before, but i really like your concept drawings KOryH. hope to see more from you in the future i wish you a place in the top 3, you would deserve it.

[Alladin]

The idea and realization are both splendid!

[blackdragoncg]

Hey Kory! Awsome picture man I really like what you have done here :thumbsup: No gore or explosions just an offer of freindship. Cool man! I will be saving this one as one of my favourites. Good luck to you dude.

Regards
blackdragon

[KOryH]

Thanks so much everyone,
I worked really hard on capturing a mood and a moment.
I feels good to know that people are responding to that.
It is these kind of moments when an artist can connect to the viewer
that make all the hard work worth it.

It was a long stressful and wonderful experience.
I am glad I had the opportunity to take part in this Challenge and be part of such a
warm and intelligent artistic community.

All the best to everyone who took part in the challenge and to the people who just
observed and felt compelled to give suggestions and comments.

Thanks again

[flyingP]

and i must have said that before, but i really like your concept drawings KOryH.

I do too actually, although I think what impresses me most is how you seem to have brought those 2D and 3D skills together into a style that really compliments both.

I am more than a little envious :)

[stupendoh]

Hi KOryH,

This is by far my favorite entry. I love it. The concept is very refreshing. Your lighting, modeling, palette and compostion are flawless in my opinion. And it strongly conveys a story.
Does the skull in the foreground imply the creatures are hostile and will kill the humans?
Great work and very well done, good luck (especially with your dial up connection :))

[essencedesign]

Yes a very original piece indeed.....and very well done...good intigration of 2 andd work into one stellar final entry.... :thumbsup:

[KOryH]

Thanks piggy, I do mostly 2D stuff here at work, but at home I get to play in the Third!
I am still a slow modeler and it takes quite a bit of messing around to get what i want,
but it's fun and comes in handy to some extra stuff.

Stupendoh, who knows? thanks BTW those are kind words

essence, thanks it took a bit of planning and trial and error. Hopefully I will
get a chance to show a bit more of my process in the weeks to come.

[jdsb]

as i look at the image again,i want to say congratulation in advance because its just great..... regardlesshttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

[Alladin]

I like your composition and colors. Great feeling of an alien planet:)

[JamesMK]

- - - I do mostly 2D stuff here at work, but at home I get to play in the Third!
I am still a slow modeler and it takes quite a bit of messing around to get what i want, - - -

Hmm... I think this is a very important statement. Quite often, mostly in these challenge contexts, I see some veeeeeeeery skilled modelers/texture artists working on individual image elements with sometimes inhuman skill levels - only to end up producing a final image that doesn't work at all... And conversely, I often spot guys with a solid 2D background who recently "started experimenting a little with 3D" who end up making final results that usually runs circles around skilled, but purely 3D-oriented artists.

I can only conclude that in terms of producing final and artistically valid work, there's no escaping the fact that a solid foundation in 2D/traditional arts is imperative... or that such skills should be acquired without further due. This would perhaps not necessarily imply drawing or painting skills, but could maybe also the eye of a great photographer or cinematographer, i.e. compositional and lighting skills, and simply being able to tell a good idea from a bad one in terms of visual impact.

I've personally been playing around with 3D as a hobbyist for more than four years now, but not until very recently have I realised what I said above....

Hmm... well, this is a great piece of work, possibly the best in the GSO challenge... and I'm off to try and learn some more 2D :D

[flyingP]

and I'm off to try and learn some more 2D :D

good Idea, I've seen your drawings :D

and KOryH I hear you, speed modelling is not my thing really either, I find I have to put myself in a totally different frame of mind when going from 2 to 3D.....I actually have to think......slows me down immensely :argh: :D

[JamesMK]

I actually have to think......
Mwaaaaahaaaaahahaa! When did you learn that?

[flyingP]

Mwaaaaahaaaaahahaa! When did you learn that?

well I am at least better at it than you at drawing :p

[JamesMK]

Hmm.... a close call, but OK, I'll give you that :D

[maxim capra]

hehe, fight, fight, fight! :)

[KOryH]

ha ,
I actually know what you are talking about, as far as slowing down and thinking.
It's not so much that I don't have to think I when I draw, it's that when I am in 3D all my
decisions are more deliberate and conscience. This is what slows me down.
Also there are so many more skills and steps involved when creating 3D.
My co-workers here in my department, wich is ALL 2D, are amazed that I can do 3D at all.
However, I am constantly reminded that compared to the guys in,say, the MODELING department, I am a usless hack. Man, those guys are amazing. Inversly, they think it's amazing that we can draw.
wacky huh?

Anyway, I am glad that this has started some fun conversations!
keep up the comments and insights, they are always welcome.

[BernardoDelgado]

Kory man I must congrat u, I love the feeling and style of this image, inspiring :thumbsup:

[arturro]

WHY I CANNOT VOTE FOR YOU!? WHY?

what happened? your work is not listed there:(

[KOryH]

yikes,
I better check this out.
thanks arturro!

[arturro]

Yes fight! It would be unfair as being objective your work should be among the very top ones!

[BernardoDelgado]

where do u vote???? :shrug:

[arturro]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/entries.php (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/entries.php)

your work is not there....

[ArtisticVisions]

what happened? your work is not listed there:(
Yeah, that is odd; you better check with Mibus.

[flyingP]

guys aren't you getting a little ahead of yourselves, AFAIK the start of voting hasn't been announced yet (would surprise me anyway) and I am sure if there is a problem they'll get it sorted

and what you were describing before KOryH does indeed sound familiar, but then 3D is still quite a technical environment in comparison to 2D, it requires a different way of thinking

[KOryH]

Hey FlyingP,
Yes perhaps a little ahead of ourselves indeed, but, I would like to take care of it sooner rather than later. I will be doing this off line so no need for further comments on the matter.

Back to art...
I don't know a bout that. there are some people that seem to modle as fast as I can draw.
I think tha it is a matter of comfotability to the tools.
like the difference between watercolors and oils.

[flyingP]

Hey FlyingP,
Back to art...
I don't know a bout that. there are some people that seem to modle as fast as I can draw.
I think tha it is a matter of comfotability to the tools.
like the difference between watercolors and oils.

agreed on the other issue

and yeah a lot of it is indeed a case of getting experience with the tools and the environment, just it's still a case for us 2D guys as well, that we have to start at the begging with 3D like everyone else, the skills needed a very different I feel, with exception for a good feeling for lighting and composition perhaps

[KOryH]

eerrr eeerrr eeerrrr.....user....errorrrrr....

all fixed.

the luxury of having a good idea of where you are going is invaluable.
meaning. planning out the image with a fair amout of detail and direction
goes along way.
As part of my process, I jumped back and forth between 2D and 3D quite a bit
in order to figure out what was going to work.
I did the most experimenting in 2D because it was quicker for me.
once I had a plan and a 2D "template" for the peice everything in 3D was much easier.
I made the mistake early on to jump into 3D before I had my head really wrapped around what I was trying to do. I lost a lot of valuable time.
Luckily I tok several weeks off, because when i got back, I had a fresh look at it and realized somethings that should be changed.
Another thing planning in 2d helps is in knowing where to add detail and where to not be too concerned by the lack of it.
For example, I don't have much of anything modeled in the back of the ships, beacuse they are not in view. I had originally planed to model them completely, but that would have been a waste of time for the final composition.

blah blah blah,

sorry it's late and now I am just blabbling on.
Anyway,
thanks for all the support.

[maxim capra]

hmm... i just read those nice posts about art - it's something which makes me think for a longer time now.... those spezialists who are really awesome in a particular thing... it's something which makes me envious to see how someone can draw, and how anotherone can model, and the third one can create great mood with simple tools.... because i am not a spezialist in any form... which means i'm interested in so many things, i really CAN'T focus on a special thing and do this all the time. so i'm relativly useless for the big industry, i think.
at work i'm programming tools for 3ds max and realtime-engines. building low-poly models and stuff. at home i try to draw, write and visualize things, because i feel i have to. but i think i'm not that good at it (comparing to the great guys here). hmmm... just thinking, sorry :)

[maxim capra]

sorry, another thing Kory - i saw on your HP that you worked on the concepts for the game 'legacy of kain' ... it's funny, it's the game my girlfriend plays all the time :)

[flyingP]

I made the mistake early on to jump into 3D before I had my head really wrapped around what I was trying to do. I lost a lot of valuable time.

keep falling into the same damn trap to be honest :banghead:

at home i try to draw, write and visualize things, because i feel i have to. but i think i'm not that good at it (comparing to the great guys here). hmmm... just thinking, sorry

we all have to start somewhere, which I think is what we were covering in a round about way, give yourself some time

[KOryH]

yeah its about proper disapline and planning. that is what makes an artist more professional.

do what you love is my best advice.
you will love the things that you are good at and be good at the things you love.
that's my belief anyway.



And Yeah I was the lead concept artist on a couple of those games. I haven't been at the company for a couple of years now but still have some close friends there. They were fun games to work on. I am always amused when I find out how much chicks dig those games.
I am glad someone is playing them.

[TheFirstAngel]

Kory, Congrats on your awesome piece, its a beauty! Best luck :)

[cgkrusty]

This really came out great... I wish this had been the meeting scene at the end of the movie "Contact" instead of the cheese they threw at us...

Great work!

[Agostinuke]

I thought a lot about this. I started appreciating a lot the concept and development, then there was something....I don't know...maybe something on the written replies that made me a little dubious, but now...I'm up again with this cool project.

I think it deserves a recognition.

flyingP: aren't you a flying Pig no more?

bye

ago-stino


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[flyingP]

I think it deserves a recognition.

flyingP: aren't you a flying Pig no more?


got my vote

and my avatar has been Squibbited

[KOryH]

Thanks guys,

Hey ago- who's replyies turned you off? and when? Before I was finished or after?
Was is my inane banter about the artistic process that made you ill. Sometimes my BS
gets a little thick?

Thanks for taking the time to think about it. I must have done something right.

[ihamid]

this is a beautifull entry:)!..... i like the unique idea it portrays.....love the ships....really gives the feeling of historic discovery:thumbsup:!

[Agostinuke]

mmmm..Sincerely, I don't know exactly what it was, but now, as I said, I'm pretty sure that this work deserves to win. Forgive me if I was not clear, it's just because sometimes I express my feelings when I should keep them for myself. Anyway, no doubts on how much I appreciate your work!

Good Luck!

ago

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[KOryH]

No worries I was just curious.
I value other artists opinions.

[theuni]

Hi,
just wanted to let you know that I voted for your image :bowdown:

I simply like everything in here... the concept, the image and the whole process you`ve gone through.

[adel3d]

Awesome Work:applause:
You Had my Vote!

[KOryH]

hey thanks theuni and adel3d

that makes 3 I think.

Man there were so many great works. I must have voted for a dozen of them in each category.

[jsdesigns]

Another one of my favourite images. Just totally awesome! You have my vote by the way...

[texxx]

Great !




my favorite entry, in the 3d category.

[Cygnus-X]

WOW great work :thumbsup:

[chueco]

you have create a beatifull image.
i think that the most intresting thing in your piece, it's that you really get to put the spectator in that universe of yours. the scene makes you wonder about the story of the characters and eventually imagine an adventure. sci/fi meets 1492's in another planet.
really great!!!

[JohnnyFreeman]

One of very few artisitc finals in the 3D challenge this time, imho. You really take us away to another world with this picture.
Good luck, if you even need it.

[KOryH]

Thanks again for the nice comments and the appretiation of my work.
I try to do more than just the technical stuff so it is nice to hear people like it.

I had fun putting this together and it really was a challenge for me. I don't do this type of sci-fi too much. So it was difficult at times. The support here really got me through some of the creative blocks.
I am glad I participated in a challenge again after a couple of years away.

[element5]

I have checked out almost all of the final entries and yours is right up there my friend.....the quality of your work is outstanding, an inspiration to us all :applause: Goodluck.

[KOryH]

Thanks E5... I chickened out of the 2D challenge. Man the were some really good ones, yours included.

[Squibbit]

I chickened out of the 2D challenge

that's really funny, considering we were stunned by your 2D sketches for 3D...

with u in 2D it would have been yet a (biiig)step tougher contest

[KOryH]

I'm going to get some of my 2D friends to join next time.
Maybe I'll do 2D next time too.
Although I have to admit, that 3D is fun for me.
Maybe because I have a harder time with it.
I like the abuse! ha!

I wonder If we are going to hear who makes it to the next round at all.
Or will be suprised in a few weeks?

[emonimo]

Great !




my favorite entry, in the 3d category.

Totally agree!!

[Soeirada]

KoryH, this is a beautiful picture you made. One of the best in this challenge, 2d and 3d. Good luck on the voting.

[KOryH]

texx and emonimo thanks that means a lot!

That is kind of you to say Soeirada.
I hope that some more people thought like that too.

and BTW wooo hooo 401 replies.
That's a record for me I think.

[Agostinuke]

Congratulations, KOryH.


Cheers,

ago-stino

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[element5]

congratulations Kory :thumbsup:

[cgkrusty]

Congrats man... awesome job!

[Squibbit]

from great sketches to great finish, good job!

[ebrowning]

Great work man, congratulations!

[Versiden]

hey dude

well done and congratulations.. I pegged you for the win, was my fav entry ;p

[KOryH]

Thanks for the kind words.
I had a blast in this challenge. It was hard work, but I really liked the feeling of accomplishment I got when I actally finished it.
I can't wait for the book now. there will be stuff I never uploaded into this thread in there.
you know more bang for your buck. more concept art and designs.

Thanks again!

[ArtisticVisions]

Congrats on the win, KoryH; a really original piece that deserved to win. ;)

[Julez4001]

Thanks for the kind words.
I had a blast in this challenge. It was hard work, but I really liked the feeling of accomplishment I got when I actally finished it.
I can't wait for the book now. there will be stuff I never uploaded into this thread in there.
you know more bang for your buck. more concept art and designs.

Thanks again!


Good going KoryHKnew you would make the list on concept alone.
Hows the family?

[Climax]

• Congrats Kory! Very cool job! Keep going pal, i could imagine the greatness of ur work since the sketch's stage :thumbsup: hope to see u in the next!

[apekki]

Gratz mate! I have to say i really enjoyed your 2d sketches, and you are very talendet painter. Now it seems like you are also master in 3d. :)

[artemesia66]

Congratulations! A great character driven entry. :thumbsup: :applause:

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