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miketche
10-19-2004, 12:17 AM
Michael Wilson has entered the Grand Space Opera 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/view_entries.php?challenger=3999)

Latest Update: Final Image: Final Image
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1103839663_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1103839663_large.jpg)

Here it is, the final image.

Well good luck to all. It was fun.

miketche
10-19-2004, 12:21 AM
Ok, well I'm in on this one. Let's see if I can pull anything out of my hat. :argh:

jddog
10-19-2004, 06:48 AM
Good luck Miketche !!! I will watch your thread ;)
jdd

miketche
10-19-2004, 06:59 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098169187_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098169187_large.jpg)

Well, here's a first preliminary sketch. Not really sure were I want to take this yet. Some cosmic force going on. Not sure what that thing in the rear is. Black Hole? Sun? Some gigantic planet devouring monster?

jddog
10-19-2004, 07:21 AM
Some gigantic planet devouring monster?

sound interesting... or a black-hole devouring a planet ?

jdd

JamesMK
10-19-2004, 08:59 AM
That's a very promising concept, if I may say so! And you pulled that out of your hat? Where do people buy their hats these days anyway? All I ever found in mine (not that I ever had one, but if I did I'm sure there would only be some lint in it.... no black-hole eating planets, that's for sure).

Good luck, Mike!

Peter C.
10-19-2004, 09:56 AM
Best of luck Michael :thumbsup:

Very interesting concept there, any idea yet on how to tackle the plane decay in Cinema?

/Peter

3doid
10-19-2004, 10:08 AM
any concept can end up awesomely if it is potrayed properly... but i think a balck hole is too powerful enough to devoure a planet..lol well i kinda liked ur concept cause of the escaping ship... it throughs some hardcore story to it... i suggest more escape ships and destroy some of them in their path if u want... keep it up :applause:

Cartesius
10-19-2004, 11:57 AM
Good luck, Mike!

/Anders

miketche
10-19-2004, 05:13 PM
Thanks for the encouragment guys.

@3doid - Yes, I will probably have quite a few ships escaping the planet. I like the idea of blowing some of them up.

Designer2
10-19-2004, 05:18 PM
if you work on each element of this as a special piece i this you will turn it to masterpiece, the most element that will make this one looks amazing is the effects part.

keep up Michael
:)

miketche
10-20-2004, 02:09 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098238145_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098238145_large.jpg)

Here are some color test ideas. Not sure really which way to go. Maybe neither.

miketche
10-20-2004, 02:15 AM
Hmmm... after looking at these images a bit. I realy doesn't look to me like the planet is being sucked away. I looks more like it's being blasted.

spirogyro
10-20-2004, 02:20 AM
I'm really liking the blue color scheme miketche! It has a more cosmic feel to it unlike the one on the right. That reminds me of the sun or something no black hole. Really cool idea though. maybe you can shape the planet like it's being sucked in with immense force and and peices half cracked off and ...and.. dude I could go on forever! awesome!:buttrock:

miketche
10-20-2004, 02:35 AM
Ya, good idea. The planet needs to be broken up more. Almost stretched.

miketche
10-20-2004, 05:53 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098251631_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098251631_large.jpg)

A little bit more thought into how the planet might break up.

jddog
10-20-2004, 02:20 PM
Firts :thumbsup: , then...

Mike about your last sketch, personally I'm not so sure... a planet before to be so breaked means that a lot of time past and elements will be more far away. Like you draw here looks like the planet rise really fast... quiet too fast (ok that the true... but in a space dimension is another things). Your sketches are simply amazing and I like how you figure the explosion... we will see a lot of whater bubbles in the space, lol

just a personal input.

jdd

miketche
10-20-2004, 02:37 PM
Thanks for the input Jd. Still trying to work thinks out myself. :wip:

kromekat
10-20-2004, 02:58 PM
Hey Mike - good to see you entered too!! - looking forward to how this develops! - I must admit a planetary collapse is another theme I fancy! - Not easy to do, but it looks like you are doing great with the sketch thus far! :)

percydaman
10-20-2004, 03:05 PM
those concept sketches look great! Very interested to see where you take it.

sykosys
10-20-2004, 03:26 PM
Forgive me if the physics/geology degree oozes out in this post.

I'm not totally sold on jddog's version. In a system like this, the planet would still be under the primary influence of it's own gravity well, even though a black hole is tearing it apart. A lot of stuff would stay near the planet's mass even as it starts to break up. The atmosphere would probably start to bleed off, but that wouldn't be too visible. A planet (unless totally cooled, i.e. moon) is a pretty plastic thing, and will strech a fair bit. (The earth is actually somewhat elipsoid, from its spin.) Under high gravitational stress, it would probably stretch out a fair bit, then the crust would start to rupture. It would continue to elongate; the upper mantle would stretch, and the lower mantle/core would bubble a little until it froze. It would continue to stretch out until it created a decaying ring around the black hole.

A thought excersise as to how this might work; let's say you make a ball 1m in diameter. The centre 5 cm is water, then it's soft chewing gum out to 97 cm (a little harder near the top), and hard candy for the last 3 cm. You then set it up in a net, and spin it. The faster it spins, the more it would start to stretch; at first, you'd just see some cracks and a little elongation, but eventually the candy would start to break off. The chewing gum would still stick to the candy, but it would stretch. Eventually, the water would start to leak out. Along the way, bits and pieces would come loose, candy & gum, gum, gum& water. It would be a terrible mess, and there would be seagulls around for days...

It probably wouldn't make a terribly epic image. And I've ever watched a planet break up, nor bothered to calculate what might happen. Hopefully, though, it will provide you food for thought. (Groan!) :)

jddog
10-20-2004, 03:50 PM
:blush: oups... sykosys what a terrific explanation... by my way I express only a feeling...
but by the end I like your concept Mike :D

jdd

miketche
10-20-2004, 05:19 PM
sykosys - Thanks for the great input. I never actually put that much thought into all the real physics of such a disaster, just trying to make an interesting image. Although I would like it to be somewhat realistic. Got some very good ideas there.

sykosys
10-20-2004, 05:49 PM
sykosys - Thanks for the great input. I never actually put that much thought into all the real physics of such a disaster, just trying to make an interesting image. Although I would like it to be somewhat realistic. Got some very good ideas there.
Thining about it a little more, what might be really interesting would be a small black hole (say around 1 km) going through the planet. That could be fun. Like a gooey watermellon being shot by a lead pellet. :D

madshooter
10-20-2004, 07:22 PM
A very promising concept:thumbsup: , Waiting for more updates.

miketche
10-21-2004, 07:11 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098342665_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098342665_large.jpg)

A quick escape ship idea sketch.

miketche
10-22-2004, 04:54 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098420853_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098420853_large.jpg)

Begining the modeling. Still needs some work.

3doid
10-22-2004, 12:16 PM
hey mike wassup man... nice to c your progress... i loved ur color skatches and also ur concepts... but as jddog said the planet is breaking up too quickly... i think if want that to happend u should thing of a huge ball of sand and think of it breaking up when u put a vacume cleaner to suck it up... u'll c it breaks up in very little chunks.. some will even looks like line of smoke (if u use a powerful vacume cleanedr)... i hope u got the idea... i guss if some planet devouring thing like a micro blackhole (size of a marbell) wants to suck a planet the look wud b similer to onw with a sand ball and a vacume cleaner.... best of luck mate... i hit one of my interest pont to i'll b keeping my eyes on ya./.. :thumbsup:

JamesMK
10-22-2004, 01:45 PM
This break-up planet will probably work if you get lots and lots of debris and particles in there... We're talking particle effects from hell here. :wip:

miketche
10-22-2004, 03:35 PM
Although I kind of like the breaking up, the particle effects will be very heavy.

JamesMK
10-22-2004, 03:49 PM
the particle effects will be very heavy.
Indeedy.... You've got TP, right? You could work wonders here using PFragment and a bunch of emitters with differently shaped rocks and dust thingamajigs :thumbsup:

jddog
10-23-2004, 08:38 AM
So here we are... the start of the modelling as begann... eventually is a little bit early to make crits, but I like how this figure expoded plante looks out!

Borro
10-23-2004, 08:41 AM
Thats a great idea!!! I see you've started modeling and it looks great so far. Keep it up and good luck!

splotch
10-23-2004, 10:11 AM
woe .. nice idea i loved it so much
one of the best .. i mean it ... all i can say that you must take your time and step on detailing
keep it up

good luck friend

kromekat
10-23-2004, 10:39 AM
Looking good Mike!! - do you have Storm Tracer? - that could be pretty useful (speedy too) in the particle breakup dept!

miketche
10-23-2004, 06:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098554442_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098554442_large.jpg)

Well here is another modeling update.

As far as having TP or Storm Tracer? Unfortunatly, no I don't. I'm doing this with Cinema 7.3. But as everyone loves to say, it's the artist not the software. Right?

MailboxHead
10-23-2004, 06:03 PM
I definately dig where this is going. It looks ilke the modeling is helping you realize the concept. Keep it up

JamesMK
10-23-2004, 06:06 PM
I'm doing this with Cinema 7.3. But as everyone loves to say, it's the artist not the software. Right?
You're a straight shooter and speak the truth, boy :D

It's looking good :thumbsup: The tearing of the surface to the rightmost side looks a bit out of scale, like you would need finer edge irregularities and less folding, if you follow me.... But I can see this is going somewhere good!

splotch
10-23-2004, 06:32 PM
yo Mikenicegoing...i agree with James and you
its absolutly right its all about the artist..!!
nice update ...

good luck

jddog
10-23-2004, 06:34 PM
wow really great ! wonderful ho this lokks like... and I think that will become an amaying work ! :thumbsup:
jdd

cg219
10-23-2004, 06:40 PM
I like it. Its coming along good. I agree also. Its the artist not the software. Keep it up.

miketche
10-23-2004, 06:59 PM
Thanks everyone. :applause:

@ MailboxHead - Yes, the real progression of my work comes out in 3D. My concept sketches are just there to help me hammer out ideas, but never to finalize anything.

@ JamesMK - I'm not sure I really follow you. :shrug: A lot of the finer cracks and such are going to be done with textures.

Peter C.
10-23-2004, 07:21 PM
Wow, really cool to se your concept so well realized at this early stage. Can't wait to see more!!! :thumbsup:

Borro
10-23-2004, 09:44 PM
Amazing job with the modeling!! Keep it up!

Versiden
10-23-2004, 10:03 PM
wow, great progress so far .. it looks awesome

chino
10-23-2004, 10:48 PM
very nice! i like!...remember wez gotta think outside the bun.

create,imaginate

Virtuoso
10-23-2004, 11:46 PM
Epic scale,and a nice idea.The planet breakup will be an event for sure.I like where you are headed,interesting thus far Michael................:arteest:

element5
10-24-2004, 03:24 AM
I like where this one is going :thumbsup:

TogaMario
10-24-2004, 03:44 AM
I like the idea a lot, and I think that maybe having the Planet as the farther object might help portray pulling better? I hope to see more on this one soon :D

JamesMK
10-24-2004, 08:58 AM
- I'm not sure I really follow you. :shrug: A lot of the finer cracks and such are going to be done with textures.
That will most certainly do the trick. Carry on! :D

miketche
10-24-2004, 10:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098658383_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098658383_large.jpg)

Ok, here's the basic mesh of the Black Hole!

miketche
10-24-2004, 11:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098658801_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098658801_large.jpg)

And here's the Black Hole textured. Still needs some work I think.

At the rate I going I could easily have this image done in a month. What am I supposed to do for the next two months?

shards
10-24-2004, 11:29 PM
WOW!! :eek:
I really love the black hole!!! :thumbsup:
maybe adding some particle/object being sucked into?

plaguelord
10-24-2004, 11:29 PM
looks very promising, the vortex absorbed planet looks amazing. I like the first version with blue hole / red planet

Seven
10-24-2004, 11:41 PM
Thats a really nice start to a hole in space of some kind. Very singularity-esk... I like it.

percydaman
10-24-2004, 11:45 PM
wow very cool!

TheRealFlyBoy
10-25-2004, 01:22 AM
Whoa...that looks sweet! Very impressive work!

That black hole looks incredible. And the planet breaking up is a very nice touch. Cant wait to see it all put together.

Awesome job! Looking forward to more!

TiTaNiuM sAMuRa
10-25-2004, 05:00 AM
I believe that the glowing disc around the black hole needs some work:
1. I would give the neutron star a corona of sorts, and gradually decrease the luminosity as one travels outward.
2. The disc of matter may seem more realistic if you slapped in some particles. Not many, but just a few 'chunks' of nearly-excited matter.
3. The star or the event horizon seems out of scale -- too big for the size of disc.
4. The matter in the disc appears too uniform -- especially at the edges. I would expect that the 'arms' manner of distribution would be more pronounced.


Your planet still needs some work, but it is already FANTASTIC!!

John Pasco
10-25-2004, 05:19 AM
The black hole looks cool. I think one thing that would help would be to have something giving it some scale. You are probably already working on this. Maybe a starfield would help, or other stellar objects being pulled in too.

If you finish early, why not enter again, right?

flash.luz
10-25-2004, 05:31 AM
Nice sketches, and good ideia too, but maybe u could give some spining to the outer gas of the black hole, since it also would be spining and/or atracted by the blackhole

Good Luck

Best Regards,

Tiago

tecken1
10-25-2004, 10:09 AM
Great work, and the best of luck to you.

miketche
10-25-2004, 03:06 PM
Thanks everyone for the encouragement. :applause:

@ TiTaNiuM - Thanks for the suggestions, I'm definatly working on it some more. :wip:

jddog
10-25-2004, 03:37 PM
Amazing work on the black hole, stunning texture work and I love the progress... :thumbsup: and I coninue to watch your thread Miketche.

jdd

miketche
10-26-2004, 12:08 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098749305_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098749305_large.jpg)

Here is an updated Black Hole.

miketche
10-26-2004, 03:57 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098763050_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1098763050_large.jpg)

These are the hand painted texture maps (Photoshop) used for the dust ring around the Black Hole. Most of the other elements were done with visible light.

Also a standard Cinema 4D Spiral Galaxy shader was used on the disk.

JamesMK
10-26-2004, 07:28 AM
That black hole looks awesome. Very clever I must say. Carry on! :wip:

Orporick
10-26-2004, 01:00 PM
Miketche

compliment for the black hole, it is really really good (well, I've never seen a real black hole around, but it is exactly as I would expect) .. I spent the last week end tring to find a good theme for my entry and I end up with an escaping scene from a planet revolving around a black hole .. but after seen your image I have to change subject .. I can't compete with your black hole :)) .. real good job, hope to see progress on your project soon ..

Riccardo :)

Sky_one
10-26-2004, 01:40 PM
thing about black holes devouring planets is that,

first thing that comes off is the atmosphere,
second, it [black hole] will strech out the planet, heating its core, thus turning the planet into vulcanic inferno,
at last just before dovouring it, the planet will become pure plasma!

trust me, I know a thing or two about astro physics!
having explaind these things... wow it really might look cool!

miketche
10-26-2004, 03:31 PM
thing about black holes devouring planets is that,

first thing that comes off is the atmosphere,
second, it [black hole] will strech out the planet, heating its core, thus turning the planet into vulcanic inferno,
at last just before dovouring it, the planet will become pure plasma!

trust me, I know a thing or two about astro physics!
having explaind these things... wow it really might look cool!


I always like information like this. Myself having no real knowledge of astro phenomenon. Although there will be magma involved and the atmosphere will be gone, I like the breaking up look of the planet. Just trying to make something that looks interesting. For example, I really have no idea if this is what a Black Hole looks like, but I think it looks cool. But keep the information coming. It always helps. :applause:

Orporick
10-26-2004, 03:35 PM
Hi Mike

maybe you can be interested in lookin at the ESA (European Space Agency) site

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/archive/topic/drawing//

lot of inspiration .. see you, Riccardo :)

miketche
10-26-2004, 03:51 PM
Hi Mike

maybe you can be interested in lookin at the ESA (European Space Agency) site

http://www.spacetelescope.org/images/archive/topic/drawing//

lot of inspiration .. see you, Riccardo :)


Hey thanks for that link. Some great inspirational art there. :buttrock:

Peddy
10-27-2004, 03:24 PM
great stuff!

im no 3d wizz, but i give you this advice: do research on black holes, particularly how light is handled. remember simply that you only see a blackhole because of the lack of light. (correct me if im horribly wrong, which isnt unlikely)
some of the technical advice in your thread so far is really really good! but just tread carefully, blackholes are still a mystery, but if you can capture that mystery, itll be awesome!

Sky_one
10-28-2004, 12:02 PM
Well, Peddy you are only half right - nothing can get out of the black holes -even light, due to its [black holes] gravitational pull [actually there is this thing called black hole evaporation, those are them beams of light coming out of the black hole's poles, it is a sort of radiation, that also has a mass]. It means that if black hole has nothing to "eat" it really is invisible [a black dot in the space], but when it is eating suns and planets, it creates a vortex of heated mass around it!

OK, back to the point, your black hole does look like a real one! Only thing wrong is that at the center of vortex [black hole itself] there should be a light blue glow [the hottest point -the hottest light by the way is light blue], because of the hot plazma.

But usually people depict black holes the way you do, with a black dot in the midle [a sort of stereotype]. That brings up the issue of credibility vs. reality! So its up to you to decide, I'm just here for the scientific blabber!

kromekat
10-28-2004, 12:15 PM
The black hole is looking really cool Mike! - cool progress! :thumbsup:

TheRealFlyBoy
10-29-2004, 04:29 PM
Yes...the black hole is looking awesome!

Cant wait to see some other things added to the scene. Keep it up man!

plaguelord
10-29-2004, 07:31 PM
I agree with the rest, the black hole looks awesome, nice colors! I hope to see more soon

3doid
10-29-2004, 08:12 PM
Well, Peddy you are only half right - nothing can get out of the black holes -even light, due to its [black holes] gravitational pull [actually there is this thing called black hole evaporation, those are them beams of light coming out of the black hole's poles, it is a sort of radiation, that also has a mass]. It means that if black hole has nothing to "eat" it really is invisible [a black dot in the space], but when it is eating suns and planets, it creates a vortex of heated mass around it!

OK, back to the point, your black hole does look like a real one! Only thing wrong is that at the center of vortex [black hole itself] there should be a light blue glow [the hottest point -the hottest light by the way is light blue], because of the hot plazma.

But usually people depict black holes the way you do, with a black dot in the midle [a sort of stereotype]. That brings up the issue of credibility vs. reality! So its up to you to decide, I'm just here for the scientific blabber!

^^this guys sure knows a lot... i bet he read the book called 'A Brief History of Time' by Stiphen Hawkins... well that book really xplanes a lot...
okay now to the point... ur images r really aweosme.. i totally dig the hole u made.. the only hthing i can point is ur black hole is TOOO big and shows less action around it... i mean a baseball size black hole can devoure up our whole earth... anyways... i say y dont u make the near region of the hole more dark, so it would look really powerful...
:thumbsup:

miketche
10-31-2004, 05:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099204216_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099204216_large.jpg)

Texture work for the planet.

Cartesius
10-31-2004, 01:06 PM
Interesting concept and idea that is looking better and better! :thumbsup:

/Anders

kromekat
10-31-2004, 04:44 PM
Mike - that's looking great man!! :thumbsup:

Peter C.
10-31-2004, 10:15 PM
That planet is really shaping up nicely! You could try having a volumetric light within the structure so that light radiates through the cracks. Also, black hole looks awesome :thumbsup:

element5
10-31-2004, 11:32 PM
Woohoo! That looks so cool :thumbsup:

Orporick
10-31-2004, 11:49 PM
Awesome planet .. the visit to your thread is in my daily todo list .. looking forward for more

Bye, Riccardo

plaguelord
11-01-2004, 01:02 AM
I really like how this is going, the planet effect is stunning!

jddog
11-02-2004, 03:09 PM
WOW ! amazing texture, did you use BodyPaint... ?
Wonderful results :applause:
jdd

miketche
11-02-2004, 07:30 PM
Nope, no Bodypaint. Just Photoshop and Cinema 4D. :cool:

NicoDN
11-02-2004, 07:37 PM
Wow, for now, your work rocks guy ! Good luck in this challenge !

Nomad
11-02-2004, 07:54 PM
Wow! powerful visual :eek: , verry cool work. :thumbsup:

I keep an eye on this thread. :lightbulb

artemesia66
11-02-2004, 08:15 PM
This is looking awesome. Should the planet have some bump to it (eg. mountains)? It looks very smooth. Can't wait to see how this progresses.

miketche
11-03-2004, 05:23 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099463024_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099463024_large.jpg)

Begining the ship.

vrhead
11-03-2004, 05:26 AM
it looks awsome ... but perhaps too intact kinda gloopy.. for the violent action thats going on... but no doubt very amazing work man keep it up

soapy
11-03-2004, 06:02 AM
Wow, Miketche really nice work so far!

miketche
11-03-2004, 09:25 PM
@ vrhead - Not sure what you mean. :shrug:

@ soapy - Thanks man. I'll check out your thread soon. :D

@ artemesia66 - The planet does use a bump map. But very small. I don't think mountains would be very visible from that far away. More the impression of mountains.

Orporick
11-03-2004, 09:31 PM
Hey miketche

your ship model is really nice, looking forward to see it textured (after seeing your planet and black hole I expect high level also for the ship :)) .. are you using Cinema4D also for modelling? What version? Just curious ..

Nice work, see you soon

Riccardo :)

miketche
11-06-2004, 05:36 AM
Well, I've done a little more work on the ship, but I'm just not feeling it with this current design. :banghead: It just doesn't seem to have the epic look I'm trying to achieve with this image. Back to the drawing board I guess. :arteest:

jddog
11-06-2004, 09:19 AM
... ok try simply to do another space ship... different style, different sketches... but don't trash waht you did until now man... eventually you can recover something...

I wait for the up-date !

jdd

kromekat
11-06-2004, 10:41 AM
I think that maybe the ship doesn't achieve a great sense of scale because of the high curvature - if the arc of its edges didn't reach a full right angle, had less depth to it, it might be more believable - less Y depth and less resolved arcs!
The very large dorsal fin also brings it into the realms of a smaller craft! - just my 2c! - I am sure you'll resolve it soon though, and it will knock our socks off! :thumbsup:

Jaba153
11-06-2004, 10:58 AM
really nice render of the planet !very impressive great work!:thumbsup:

miketche
11-06-2004, 04:59 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I'll definitly keep working on it. :wip:

Cartesius
11-06-2004, 05:15 PM
I agree with kromekat about the curvature and fin. It all indicates a much smaller vessel. Think of it this way: If this is supposed to be a huge space ship then why does it have a fin at all? Fins are used to control movement in matter like air or water, but this ship is traveling in areas where there's no matter at all - space. In space there's only vacuum. So by adding a fin you instead plant the notion of a ship made for atmospheric travels, not space. And besides, if the space ship is supposed to be huge then imagine the scale of that fin :)

Otherwise it's looking good and the black hole is wonderful!

/Anders

miketche
11-07-2004, 04:09 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099804142_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099804142_large.jpg)

Well, here is a new design for the ship. I'd like your input on it as well.

The whole idea behind the original fin in the first place was I did in fact picture the ship traveling through an atmosphere. Upon reaching a new home world, they would land on the planet to disembark. Well, scratch all that now. How's this new design?

Thanks

TiTaNiuM sAMuRa
11-07-2004, 05:07 AM
Black hole (and its event horizon festivities): very nice!
Planet (undergoing a nervous breakdown): very nice!

Galactic civilization?

miketche
11-08-2004, 06:35 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099899359_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1099899359_large.jpg)

An early composition and lighting test. I can see a number of things I want to change.

jddog
11-08-2004, 06:57 AM
:wip: wow looks really promising and the quick test is really amazing... probably more contrats are needed, but still a wip. yeah the space ships looks really better now..

:thumbsup:

jdd

Virtuoso
11-08-2004, 07:00 AM
Your doing some fine work/art here Michael.................keep it up,I think the direction and idea are real good,and your reaching the potential of your plan thus far...........Nice going......:arteest:

terraarc
11-08-2004, 08:31 AM
WOW! Great looking so far! You've got some real world macro-phusics action got there! And the ship looks pretty slick and enormous too!:thumbsup:

cgchris
11-08-2004, 10:26 AM
Great work so far. The idea is really strong.

How are you going to show the atmosphere of the planet? Would it still be visible under such conditions? I really like what you've done with the breakup of the planet and the core. Maybe you could use the atmosphere to give a sense of suction by placing cloud like swirls around the planet and being sucked into the force of the black hole.

Excellent visuals. Good luck.

miketche
11-08-2004, 03:41 PM
Great work so far. The idea is really strong.

How are you going to show the atmosphere of the planet? Would it still be visible under such conditions? I really like what you've done with the breakup of the planet and the core. Maybe you could use the atmosphere to give a sense of suction by placing cloud like swirls around the planet and being sucked into the force of the black hole.

Excellent visuals. Good luck.


Yes, something like that. :D

kromekat
11-08-2004, 03:57 PM
Ship size: now I am feeling it! - yeah - that looks a lot bigger - has 'some' similarity to the Mon Calamari cruisers in ROTJ with it's organic lines and rounded extrusions, but not overly so!

Love the colour visual - great to see these 2 strong elements composed together! :D :beer:

JamesMK
11-08-2004, 05:09 PM
It's surely coming along nicely, Michael :thumbsup:

Don't know how close this will be to your final compo, but I feel that it might benefit from a slight rearrangement.... like moving the shredded planet closer to the camera, and sort of introduce a deeper sense of perspective by having the actual black hole "further away"... to introduce a strong diagonal leading into the picture and the black hole.... sorta... hope you're following what I'm trying to say :D

Nomad
11-08-2004, 06:05 PM
You have done great visuals for the planet and for the black hole :thumbsup:
but sorry the ship looks not nice for me... in my opinion it`s too classical :sad: ... I`m sure you can find some more original design :bounce: something more devlopped... just thinking loud... maybe with some small ships around or docked... some ships could not make it and some will return safe to the cargo....

miketche
11-08-2004, 06:05 PM
@ JamesMK & Jddog - Thanks for the input. I'm still working on the composition.

@ Kromekat - Mon Calamari hu? I'll have to watch it again.

@ Virtuoso - Thanks for dropping by. Love you work! :buttrock:

Daniel-McMillan
11-08-2004, 06:40 PM
An early composition and lighting test. I can see a number of things I want to change.
Excellent use of colors in that scene!

KOryH
11-08-2004, 07:54 PM
whoah mamma,
I would hate to be on that planet.
Great imagery. I like the vibrant colors.

miketche
11-09-2004, 06:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100027719_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100027719_large.jpg)

I've done a little experimenting, and this is what I've come up with for the escaping Dust / Atmosphere trail coming off the planet. Will probably need some additional tweeking once I see how it renders with the planet.

miketche
11-10-2004, 04:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100065609_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100065609_large.jpg)

An update to the composition.

Claireabella
11-10-2004, 04:55 AM
Hi, I really like the breaking up effect of your planet and was attracted by the colours!! :thumbsup: Claireabella

Virtuoso
11-10-2004, 04:57 AM
Nice Michael..........This is a nice new updated compo.........beautiful colors and major epic event all in one,nice show!:thumbsup:

Nomad
11-11-2004, 09:26 AM
Absolutely great image :thumbsup:

Will you add some effects of "fluids" to the lava core? That shoud looking great with some floating lava in the space, no?

Nice work :bounce:

JamesMK
11-11-2004, 09:40 AM
Shaping up very nicely now :thumbsup:

Are you planning to add some detail to the undamaged left side of the planet? I think it would look very neat with something on the surface there :lightbulb

miketche
11-11-2004, 03:12 PM
@ Nomad - I might try seeing how some floating magma would look. I give it a try. Thanks

@ JamesMK - I'm not sure what I could add to the left side of the planet. It does already have some cities just visible on the surface. Probably easier to see in high res.

JamesMK
11-11-2004, 04:27 PM
not sure what I could add to the left side of the planet. It does already have some cities just visible on the surface. Probably easier to see in high res.
Ah, I see. The usual problem with working in high res, kind of annoying at times. Cool looking work at any rate.

uwil
11-11-2004, 04:36 PM
very nice comp miketche, that's a blackhole right? is it made up of pure particles or photoshop? well, it's not the final image yet... this will be great.:thumbsup:

artemesia66
11-11-2004, 07:52 PM
Really coming along, Mike. The composition is great. The only thing i find (a bit) odd is that the planet is lit from the left, when it seems like the strongest light source would be it's molten interior or the black hole/aura thing. :thumbsup:

miketche
11-11-2004, 08:05 PM
The light source to the left is this planets' solar systems' sun. Which hasn't been grabbed by the Black hole yet.

There is light eminating from the molten core with visible light shafts (which you can see in one of the earlier test renders)

And the light from the black hole is from behind.

There is also some dim ambient light from the right (Ambient light in space?) Maybe from a nebula near by?

I'll post my lighting setup later tonight. Pretty simple really.

overcontrast
11-11-2004, 08:07 PM
seems like ur image is talking shape... nice work so far... and as it looks it need hell load of particles and dust shooting in many direction!

miketche
11-11-2004, 08:16 PM
The planet uses four particle emitters, with rocks of varying shapes and sizes, each emitting a different number of particles. This is in addition to the large modeled shapes of the planet.

miketche
11-12-2004, 03:30 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100233825_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100233825_large.jpg)

So here's my lighting. Basicly a three point set up.

greentek
11-12-2004, 05:35 AM
Hi Michael.. very nice stuff your doing here! :thumbsup: but i think you have to consider absolutely right observation from JamesMK about composition!


Don't know how close this will be to your final compo, but I feel that it might benefit from a slight rearrangement.... like moving the shredded planet closer to the camera, and sort of introduce a deeper sense of perspective by having the actual black hole "further away"... to introduce a strong diagonal leading into the picture and the black hole.... sorta... hope you're following what I'm trying to say :D
also from myself i can add that:
1. Textures - your planet needs texture for inner side of the chunks as they are glowing magma..
2. Lighting - your composition would look better if you remove your fill light.. also you may displace sun light so only small part of the planet is lighted.. nearly 1/5 or even 1/6..
your inner planet lights must be much more intensive with bright yellow/orange color and strong decay/attenuation..
3. Effect - sorry, i din't read in the thread how you make your effect.. i mean with particles or not..
if you made it with particles you need to adjust motion blur by particle age or speed..
if it's manual setup you need to setup motion blur manualy as well..
in any way your old and small chunks must move faster then large and close to the planet..

sorry for too many tips but your scene is really good and you can improve it a lot and make it very impressive.. :thumbsup:

best of luck Michael and cheers..

young_927
11-12-2004, 05:48 AM
cool stuff~
one suggestion~
you might want to consider addin more stuff?more spaceships or so..
to give it a more "grand" feel?

Peter C.
11-12-2004, 02:57 PM
It's looking great!! The composition does give a spiraling feel that I like very much. Two suggestions I have; adding more atmoshpheric vapor trailing away and perhaps adding a glow atmoshphere layer to the planet side opposit to the black hole, to give it some more depth through some remaining atmosphere. It looks now a bit too clean/bare.

Anyway, excellent progress :thumbsup:

miketche
11-13-2004, 03:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100319891_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100319891_large.jpg)

Ok, here's a new idea for the ship. Less streamlined, more industrial. What's your take on this new design? The previous ship should be on about page 7.

miketche
11-13-2004, 05:35 PM
Thanks for the replies and suggestions guys.

@ greentek - Some great suggestions there. I actually did follow JamesMK's suggestion. If you look at the first composition he was commenting on compared to the latest compositon you can certainly see a difference.

@ young_927 - Working on it now.

@ Peter C - I actually was thinking of bumping up the atmosphere trail a bit. And I'll be adding some glow to the left side of the planet in post.

:applause:

miketche
11-13-2004, 06:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100373997_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1100373997_large.jpg)

Some test images of the two different ship designs. My wife like's the bottom one.

There are still some changes I'd like to implement from suggestions I've received.

greentek
11-13-2004, 11:30 PM
i agree with your wife Michael.. i also like second image more.. i think because second ship is looking more complex.. but anyway composition looks very nice.. :thumbsup:
keep it up mate!
cheers..

keetmun
11-14-2004, 02:19 AM
Yup I prefer the second ship as well. IMO the second one looks tougher than the first one, making it more believable. Mad modelling skills you got!

Cheers!
:buttrock:

Jaba153
11-14-2004, 02:24 AM
really nice!! i prefe the second one for the foreground but i'm think it's also kool with the other space ship in the backround and both together makes more complex the image...very good job:thumbsup:

soapy
11-14-2004, 05:57 AM
I think you should use both ships in the image.

plaguelord
11-14-2004, 04:01 PM
nice progress, I like the background!

I like most the first ship, but using both ship can be good too.

miketche
11-14-2004, 06:49 PM
Thanks for the suggestions and words of encouragment. Always good to hear. I think I'll maintain a consistant ship design with one or the other. Kind of like a world wide cooperative effort to develop spacecraft capable of transporting the population off the doomed planet. I know these three ships are far from able to contain the whole population of a planet. I see it as the last three ships of a large fleet.

Mad Modeling skills? Actually I feel like I'm just bumbling around most of the time. I look at other threads and see the fantastic ship designs you guys do and wish I had half the skill. But I still think it's great fun.

Well, I feel like I'm nearing the completion of my image. With almost of full two months left. :hmm: What am I supposed to do now?

greentek
11-14-2004, 11:14 PM
Well, I feel like I'm nearing the completion of my image. With almost of full two months left. :hmm: What am I supposed to do now? you can start another challenge project Michael and you'll end up with three different ones.. more chances to win .. :scream::scream:

you have a plenty time mate to polish it and try different camera angles and lighting.. also you can add endless amount of details to your scene that definitely can only improve your work and make it look more solid..
cheers.. :beer:

Borro
11-17-2004, 12:54 AM
hmm well the bottom one looks more 2020-human-like design and the top one looks more like 3000 human-like design. But both are great! Now the wormhole in the back looks a bit too bright... and takes the attention from the planet... which is a bit bad cuz you want to focus on the planet(i think so)... Keep it up! Update soon!!

RedXR
11-17-2004, 11:36 AM
Amazing work man. there are just a few things that sorta made me post a reply, if the planet is dieing as it is, wouldn't there be cracks all over the planet? for a really good reference final fanatasy or art of greg martin do well. They should be visiable enough from your angle, but you can hardly see any in the pics u posted. The planet is lacking atmosphere, it seems too flat. Also the planet is not affected by it's environement, it has a bright blue light coming from it's right but it's not affecting it;and personally i think the inside of the planet is a bit too dim. Sorry if it seems am being a real "critic" here but i just think that you're idea is really awsome, and with a few tweaks it could be unbelivable. Keep the great work.

miketche
11-17-2004, 04:05 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys. :thumbsup:

I'm going to use the 2nd ship design as I think it fits more with my over all idea for the image.

Most of your suggestions are going to be taken care of in post.

"The planet is lacking atmosphere, it seems too flat." - This is because the planet has no atmosphere. It's being sucked away. But I will add some glow to the planet in post.

"...it has a bright blue light coming from it's right but it's not affecting it" - If you are refering to the black hole, it's not to it's right, it's behind. So the backside of everything is lit blue. If I removed the sun to the left the whole foreground would be dark.

Maybe there is something wrong with my image if people are percieving the black hole to just be to the right of the planet.


Thanks for the input everyone. I really do need it.

:applause:

SUN
11-17-2004, 09:24 PM
:thumbsup: Real great Work :thumbsup:
But the planet looks small whith ships

miketche
12-05-2004, 04:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1102266869_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1102266869_large.jpg)

Well, this is the final rendering. But not done yet. Still have to do a little post work on it.

arturro
12-05-2004, 04:24 PM
Wow! that is what I call a big boom:twisted: Very nice image. But I'm not convinced to thos ship. If have soem time, I advice to do some tries... I would mix the previous ship with this one. Change the new fron of the ship for the smooth front(maybe just caut a little of the old ship and use it as a front part), and in the back part add only a little bit more smoothiness.... but if you don't have time and willingness than thos would also work:thumbsup:

nice job!

overcontrast
12-05-2004, 05:17 PM
hey hey hey, long tym no c... seems like ur gettin up image up already.. very nice going buddy....okay heres my crit: the background stars looks to intence. the sunlight is not string enough to cast a nicely contrasted light and crisp shadow.. i suggest intesify the key light... dude u need a whole lot more particles in ur scene.. and through up some more ships going in all direction or in a cluster.. that would give the image more eliment... abt the blackhole Jet.. u might want to give it a more hardcore look... i suggest ading a glow and straching the jet in both direction... well thats abt it for now...
keep up the good works, ur progress is great and ur doing reallly great.. now all is needed some minor adjustments and u got ur GRAND SPACE OPERA!! :thumbsup: :applause: :bounce:

RJofVFX
12-05-2004, 11:43 PM
The rendering is very,very good. Although, I don't see that the explosion of the ship is that powerful... maybe you'll work on it in post-production. All in all, cool!!!

terraarc
12-06-2004, 08:24 AM
The composition looks pretty good! :thumbsup:

And you have all the time in the world for minor adjustments and small modelling! This is great man! Hope the next month you'll do all those little paintovers and adjustments to bring more out of it! :bounce::bounce:

Lelantos
12-06-2004, 08:59 AM
very nice explosion is great well done love the galaxy:bounce:

just my opinion but i think the planet needs a little more <dust> in the explosion. just thinking.

very good man cant wait to see final with refinements:thumbsup:

jsdesigns
12-06-2004, 10:03 AM
My first ever post shall be brief... but I think the planet could use a few volcanoes spewing magma into the atmosphere. Just a small touch but I think it could improve an already great render!

miketche
12-06-2004, 04:21 PM
Thanks everyone for all the great sugestions and pointers. Looks like I'll be working on it a bit more. :wip:

miketche
12-08-2004, 05:50 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1102488648_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1102488648_large.jpg)

Ok, here's a new Final render. Changed the composition a bit, added some explostions. Done with photo texture maps. If I would have had Pyrocluster I would have used that, but seeing as how I don't, photo textures will have to do. But I think it does add to the image.

And as before I still need to do some post work on it.

terraarc
12-08-2004, 07:53 AM
Hello miketche! :)
I like your take on this one! I believe, regarding that you still have some month or so for adjustments, you can really push this staff further with some more "love". I'd say that you can do that without having the clock chasing you like the most of us here....
I have some suggestions on some things on your composition...


Adding some more depth on the planet landscape would be a nice touch. Some cracks of magma and landscape variation mountains, greenfields, ocean. Not modeling them just playing around with some textures.
Also a nice touch would be to simulate some atmosphere with a grand explosition effect in and around it, that needs some parts of texturing to create the general atmosphere or bended to the sships atmosphere main volume but then it's all in texturing.
Some color variation on the ships would look nice I think. Especially self illuminating with some color the front holes shaped by the Y form would look cool

Hope I didn't mess you up...It's just some ideas here....Don't know how you vision the composition so can't tell if I had some points here....:shrug:

Waiting for some of your post work!

:wavey:

theuni
12-08-2004, 07:41 PM
Really nice image... :applause:

Nomad
12-09-2004, 05:50 AM
Hi! I don`t followed your thread for a while, sorry... too much work. But I`m back and here is the comments & crits.

All is fantastic :bounce: exept the explosion on the top of the planet... I don`t like it visually and I think there shoud be here some disturbed atmosphere and nothing else. Why an explosion, gaz from the planet? :curious:

Anyway keep up the grand art :thumbsup:

jddog
12-09-2004, 11:43 AM
Hi Miketche... that's :applause: + :bounce: I really love it, congrats...

I don't know you you preview to work a lot in post-work, just some fog (dust particles or something like this) who can keep a much deep sensation between your 2 entinty can increase a perspectiv efx eventually. Or just accentuate some contrast.

Anyway what a great result !!! :bowdown:

jdd

Virtuoso
12-10-2004, 11:35 AM
Thats really turning out very well Michael.................there's alot to see and like,and I think with the extra time the skies the limit here for your creation.........My favorite part is the vessel whisking awy with that vapor trail trailing behind,cool looking.........Keep this hard work up,nicely done..............:thumbsup:

mmoir
12-10-2004, 01:13 PM
Mike,
The image looks great, I didn't think this was going to be easy to do (planet exploding) but you did a very good job on this. Maybe some fine dust particles close to the planet being part of the explosion. It looks a little to clean, maybe this is what you were going to do in post.
Great job on this.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Mike
My GSO entry
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=180886

miketche
12-11-2004, 04:36 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1102743411_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1102743411_large.jpg)

A slight composition update.

artemesia66
12-11-2004, 03:20 PM
wow. this is looking great. the extra explosions, and the fire trailing behind the rightmost ship, and the composition change have really bumped this to the next level. great work. :applause:

VHashishV
12-11-2004, 06:55 PM
The way the explosion and pieces fit so well as in like they look like they were blown off the planet/moon. and the ships looking like they stir up the dust and particles. Very cool.

Kraull
12-12-2004, 02:26 AM
Same comments as the 2 previous posts. The explosion look just great! I would maybe add orange/yellow reflections of lights that may come from the explosion on the ships. Anyway, that is just my opinion.

Great work!:)

greentek
12-12-2004, 04:33 AM
congrats Michael..
really great update..! this new picture looks great..! :thumbsup:
keep it going my friend and cheers.. :beer:

redneckstudio
12-13-2004, 07:53 AM
Awesome work man. It looks like it's time to get the hell out of Dodge.
Very Professional. Kudos.

soapy
12-14-2004, 12:18 AM
I think that little bit of flame you added in the update really works. This image has turned out really well, good job Miketche.

miketche
12-14-2004, 03:59 PM
Thanks for the comments and encouragment everyone. :applause: Still working on a number of small tweeks. :wip: :arteest:

I should update sometime soon.

miketche
12-18-2004, 06:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1103398317_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1103398317_large.jpg)

Just a little bit of post work in photoshop. Also some brightness and contrast adjustments.

lotaH
12-18-2004, 07:37 PM
Congratulations for you job!

[]'s

soapy
12-18-2004, 08:09 PM
I think those post effects you added were worth the effort, adds to the image for sure. Especially the glow or dust around the planet.

patina
12-20-2004, 03:17 PM
Hi miketche

Nice composition, very dramatic,

maybe a character could be superimposed behind the space shot, only a idea


my link

all the best

Patina!

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/view_entries.php?challenger=5288

notavailable
12-20-2004, 03:21 PM
nice work man. although i would like to see more life in the scene (u know probably more ships)

keep it up

miketche
12-23-2004, 09:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1103839663_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3999/3999_1103839663_large.jpg)

Here it is, the final image.

Well good luck to all. It was fun.

mmoir
12-23-2004, 09:45 PM
Mike ,

The final image looks excellent, great job on this.:thumbsup: Now you can sit back and watch the rest of us rush to the finish line.
Mike

patina
12-28-2004, 12:07 PM
HI miketche


Well done! a wonderful entry, it was very dramatic, they looked like they are distroyers
of planets and worlds, I found your process and development very clear, and textures are excellent, the only small comment I have is, I thought the black hole was a little big in terms of the over-all composition, I would have put it further back ,but I think perhaps you were aiming for high drama,

powerfull 3d design wonderful colors that are symonous with space opera theme, best of luck in the final shake down. You get my vote!

all the best

Patina!

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/grandspaceopera/view_entries.php?challenger=5288

artemesia66
12-28-2004, 01:25 PM
great stuff, mike. :applause: I envy you being finished. I'm pretty sure I'm saying goodbye to sleep for the next 3 weeks...

lotaH
12-28-2004, 02:15 PM
great image!!

Congratulations!

good luck!

[]s

Cartesius
12-28-2004, 02:56 PM
Great image!

:thumbsup:

/Anders

miketche
12-28-2004, 03:41 PM
Thanks everyone for the comments and support. Best of luck to everyone.

I had toyed around with adding more ships to the scene, but you really wouldn't have been able to see any ships on the far side of the planet, too small, and close up more ships just seemed to clutter the image. I figured three was a good number. :shrug:

miketche
01-03-2005, 03:37 PM
Ok, I haven't received any emails as to how to upload my Final Image. If it came as bulk mail it was probably deleted. That is if it was sent out already. :shrug:

Any help?

miketche
01-03-2005, 05:01 PM
Never mind, all the information is in the Submit image - Final upload page. :)

Gunilla
01-03-2005, 05:05 PM
Ecellent! Very good final, congrats :thumbsup:

theuni
01-03-2005, 06:04 PM
Congratulations to you ! Looks real great your final entry... good luck to you for winning and to us all for finishing :thumbsup:

miketche
01-05-2005, 04:44 PM
Ok, I've just uploaded my final Tiff image to the FTP. Hope everything work ok.

kromekat
01-05-2005, 04:53 PM
Quite an achievement Mike - very well done!! :D - you have definitely captured a monumental, grand event, and the details are great!

I wish I could have had time to finish mine! - ah well! :)

miketche
01-05-2005, 05:25 PM
Thanks for the support guys. :applause:

Kromekat - Sorry to hear you couldn't finnish your entry. I was looking forward to it. :cry:

ODoul
01-05-2005, 07:36 PM
Hi Miketche, I missed your thread until now. Your final image is just wonderful. Really, REALLY professional work. Congrats.

terraarc
01-08-2005, 06:24 PM
Beautiful work mate! Wishing the best on your entry! :thumbsup:

PeterSanitra
01-08-2005, 06:33 PM
Those ships look like they fly through the planet.

jddog
01-11-2005, 03:26 PM
:applause: bravo... really a cool image and the explosion is really excellent !!! Congrats for all your work Michael !!!

a really big :thumbsup: and again congrats !

jdd

neble
01-11-2005, 03:58 PM
The tearing up of the planets crust looks great. Good job.

theuni
01-21-2005, 07:20 PM
Hi,
just wanted to let you know that I voted for your image :bowdown:
in means of the GSO theme your image hits the mark !

Cygnus-X
01-24-2005, 02:37 PM
WOW I really like the idea of your piece. Great work :thumbsup:

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