Grand Space Opera 3D Entry: Brian J. Read

[nobrain]

nice work, u need to work on ur polys, yea thats it polys, jus kidding coming along nicely.

keep it up.

[flyingP]

haha... this is a challange... so the challenge is to do it :D lol...
until now you have all my support FlyingP... wait for up-date !

jdd

actually my biggest challenge at the moment seems to be trying to get a hold of an art director who's decided to go out and have a nice relaxing day by the looks of things... I's not a happy pig :banghead: :banghead:

[JamesMK]

Well, since it's Halloween and all... the number one scary monster seems to be......

*drumroll*

Clients!

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100032126_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100032126_large.jpg)

OK just to show some signs of life, VERY early stages at them moment, and good ol' Otto (the figure) is just in there as a guide to work around at the moment...........it's a start at least :)

[JamesMK]

And we have a start on the stuff! :applause: This is one of the nicer things I've seen Otto exposed to though.... There's is usually some more torture involved. Guess that's why he still looks happy about it :lightbulb

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100196499_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100196499_large.jpg)

OK for the Greek nut.

an update, not a big one but an update :D

[JamesMK]

Looks good actually :thumbsup: Upper shoulder pad needs some refinement, otherwise it's the familiar pig stylee all the way as far as I can see.

[azazel]

Nice armour. But i'm really waiting for that helmet :)

[flyingP]

Looks good actually :thumbsup: Upper shoulder pad needs some refinement

planned to do more there, just haven't come up with something I like that's also functional :wip:

[JamesMK]

planned to do more there
Kinda guessed that... I just love pointing out flaws in other peoples work :D

[flyingP]

Nice armour. But i'm really waiting for that helmet :)

it scares me :blush:

no the actual reason is that I was sensible and have designed in 2D first, have been a bit lazy on the rest :shrug:

[flyingP]

Kinda guessed that... I just love pointing out flaws in other peoples work :D

Oh no you don't I've been reading, you point them out in mine, you're just a big fan boy for the rest :D

[rickycox]

Hey Cool Storm Trooper.

[Nekura]

That suit looks amazing! Can't wait to see the final product! :bounce:

[JamesMK]

Oh no you don't I've been reading, you point them out in mine, you're just a big fan boy for the rest :D
Hey, no, that's not fair! I'm gonna tell mom! :cry:

[Squibbit]

u always seem to design cool stuff :thumbsup:

i wish u had more time for it

[Vittorius]

Nice armor piece :thumbsup:

Put some battle scars on it too
Keep up the great work:bounce:






My CG Challenge XVI - Grand Space Opera - 3D Thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=185732)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Now...wabbit...piggy ...stop fighting Mama loves u both :scream: :scream:


Armour wip...great man...love the design ...the finishing round neck need a little polishing i think(maybe it's the angle u rendered...) Shoulder pad...i think it's great but maybe JamesMK.. the squirell fighter..is right ...but i really love the design of it...i also expect the helmet...this ..i really wait :wip:

Now as wabbit says some times...chop! chop! :bounce:

[D-3]

sweet armor man!! very nice... keep up.. i´m waithing to see more!!
best luck!!
c ya

[flyingP]

@ the wabbit: sissy :p

@ Squibbit: yeah time seems to be rare at the moment, seems if it's not work it's domestic issues that hold me up :banghead: guess I will just have to stop sleeping :cry:

@Vittorius: I do plan to rough it up in Zbrush later, although not quite in that fashion, I want to make it look like stone or similar.

@The Greek nut with the physics degree: Mum actually keeps talking about making wabbit stew :thumbsup:
Yep the shoulder pad an area around the neck are still very :wip: I actually spent time googling armour last night, just haven't really found anything that inspires me :shrug:

@D-3 : thanks :thumbsup: I'm working on it.......well, actually, no, I'm trying to keeps out of the way of a couple of guys here who are installing a new window to the balcony at them moment........bastards picked a bloody cold day to do it on too :argh:

thanks for the replies guys :D

[JamesMK]

Guess I'd better change my name to 'Stu' then :D

[flyingP]

Guess I'd better change my name to 'Stu' then :D

it's an easy, albeit messy process wabbit :D

[mv]

ORC armors in appleseed by masamune shirow. The armor design (it's an armor, not a mecha) is inspiring and very practical. Your helmet already looks much like them.

Keep up the good work! :buttrock:

[flyingP]

actually I do have a few of the Appleseed comics if I remember correctly too, might just dig them out, thanks for the tip :thumbsup:

edit: found them :D

[Virtuoso]

Nice to see you back in action here where you belong Brian..............Nice start on the modeling,and with your concept to go along with this kind of moddeling this certanly will be one fine entry...............Appleseed comics I remember as well.............:arteest:

[dark-elf2]

ooooooohhh aaaaaaaahhhh..

looks good

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100548126_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100548126_large.jpg)

Ran into a few issues with the design of the armour (I wasn't liking it :( ), so I have decided to go back and actually design the thing in 2D later.

In the meantime I have started modelling the helm :D

[uwil]

...........:beer:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Man..it's the same as in concept...damn... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[flyingP]

not quite, but I at least have learnt my lesson....I am hopeless at designing alone in a 3D environment, I find it much easier when I've sketched the concept out first

[WazaR]

That is why I carefully planned everything in my comp. before doing anything in 3d. It reall makes the work alot easier.////

[Cartesius]

I really like the design of that helmet! I'm vaguely reminded of the Storm Troopers from Star Wars but it's still a design of its own (might be just the colour that put my mind in that direction). Waiting for the next update! ;)

That is why I carefully planned everything in my comp. before doing anything in 3d. It reall makes the work alot easier.////For me it's exactly the opposite as I do all my sketching in 3D. If I try to draw in 2D what I want to accomplish it always look like crap and nothing like what I had in mind, but if I start "sketching" in 3D it goes much better. I suppose I have a very 3D way of visualizing thing.

/Anders

[flyingP]

:surprised wierd I had no idea you guys had replied, at least no email notification this time...ah well
@WazaR: yep really does seem to suit me better too, at least with complex designs

@Cartesius: strange you mention that with the storm troopers I was having the same feeling until I dug out a few storm trooper pictures, they really are totally different but there is something in there that keeps bringing them to mind for me too :shrug:

I am often amazed with some of the things that people bring out here in 3D with only a very rough or no 2d sketch before hand. I just find the application then just tends to take control of the shapes I am creating and they'll often not those I want. I use different ways of modelling for different things some of this here is done through subdividing/extruding base forms, other parts loft nurbs, and perhaps more, often working from a single poly as a starting point and extending out from there. Thing is if I am unsure on what it is I am wanting to model I often go down the wrong road.

guess I was just being lazy I should/would normally have drawn that armour up first...there are elements I'll keep though maybe :)

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100717372_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100717372_large.jpg)

a bit further :)

[JamesMK]

And it's an update! Looking good. Eyes still look evil, which is a good thing.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

...Ok,this is really clean work ..now chop..chop..more...and sometime soon i am gonna frug in UT your piggy butt :scream:

[flyingP]

...Ok,this is really clean work ..now chop..chop..more...and sometime soon i am gonna frug in UT your piggy butt :scream:

I'm working on it, I'm working on it...geez :rolleyes:

and watch out for this little piggy when he gets a flak cannon in his hands :twisted:

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100725853_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100725853_large.jpg)

OK got the back of the helmet on it now too :)
don't think there is too much left to do on it now

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100731396_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100731396_large.jpg)

So thought I'd place the head on that body armour just for the hell of it, I may just keep the breast plate although I'll have to modify things a bit if I want to bring this figure into the pose I had planned... either that or cheat a bit :) . I will be redoing the arms though which I was not happy with.

[fellah]

I really like the superhard edges and definition of the head, superb!
I read you where not finito with the torso. it looks ok to me though, just needs some more stuff to "equalize" it with the head. and I hope you won't forget to make the same definition and hard edges as on the head, love that stuff :love:

looking forward to follow this thread.. damn sad that it's so hard to start follow threads after they pass a few hundred posts ;)

[rattlesnake]

is looking really nice...the modeling looks very well executed...nice job mate!
i really like the design youre doing.

[flyingP]

@fellah: thanks and yep do plan to sharpen up a number of the edges on that torso, the issues I have with it still are not too major and I should be able to bend it to what I want, it was the arms I had on it before that were really bugging me. And I know what you mean about trying to following threads I've missed a lot of stuff in a number of them that I am already even subscribed to...big challenge :)

@rattlesnake thanks mate, I value your opinion :thumbsup:

[Versiden]

that body armour is totally styling man... It looks really cool.. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

so many threads... you've caught my interest now, hehe

[stefgrafx]

very good concept... remember me starship-troopers... but with your own style, what colors you will applie to the armor?

[dark-elf2]

ohh nice

cool armory thing

[wuensch]

totally mean that alien, dude--

very well executes also---
Olli

[jddog]

:bounce: absolutely beutiful FlyingP... bravo very nice model and design !!!

[Cartesius]

Right, forget what I said about Star Wars earlier, this is way better - very attractive design! He looks mean. :thumbsup:

/Anders

[JamesMK]

It's one mean mutha.... Very odd in a way, but certainly does the job :thumbsup:

[Tommy Lee]

:thumbsup: Coming along very well. Sorry, can't crit... no clue about 3D!:D

[flyingP]

@Olli :beer:

@jddog thanks mate :thumbsup:

@Cartesius he's meant to so I'm glad it's coming across....no idea if it'll work in the final render though :shrug:

@JamesMK how's the pizza? :D

@Tommy Hahaha, thanks for dropping by anyway mate, I've sort of lost track with the 2D section this time round :blush: but I'll be over to check it out later :D

[JamesMK]

how's the pizza? :D
Oh, 'twas great actually. An 'azteca' with carlic sauce and wikkid pfefferonis... I'm stuffed now. No way I'll be able to model a single polygon for the next few hours, that's for sure.

[flyingP]

no, perhaps not, I could imagine your breath melting the keyboard after that :scream:

[JamesMK]

It does actually... at least the print on the tops of the keys.... they're all blank :eek:

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100804173_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1100804173_large.jpg)

seeing as the thread has been bumped anyway, here's a mini update. I've added the antenna doodad thingy from the original sketch...still not sure if it'll stay. There's some other stuff too just in places where it's a bit hard to see...just filling up the gaps really now :D

[Russel-Nash]

Hey, this helmet looks really cool. I am very interested in seeing it “stone-like”.



Amazing work, :eek:



Russel

[flyingP]

you and me both :D

[DimitrisLiatsos]

@ curly tail piggy ....I've added the antenna doodad thingy from the original sketch...still not sure if it'll stay. ...it has to stay,please!...i love it ...man...this character has style..except the fact of his basassedenes...er..badased..nes...er...JAAAAMEEESS ...waaabbit..i can't write the freaking word ,..help me!


:thumbsup:

[JamesMK]

That's BADASSEDNESS :D Write it down somewhere... you'll need it the next time you write your CV anyway ;) I seriously doubt it would qualify as valid english though...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

I seriously doubt it would qualify as valid english though... .. :scream: :scream: :scream:

[greentek]

great design and modeling Brian! simply great! :thumbsup:
helmet looks very impressive!
best of luck and cheers..

[Xeroedge]

Cool nice modelling and concept.All he needs now is red glowing eyes ;p

[flyingP]

thanks guys glad you like it...in the meantime I have more work to do again, so updates will be slowed down more once more :sad:

[overcontrast]

hey gr8 model man... keep up those good work... hey by the way, that last model looks just like my dogs face..good work man....hehe, :thumbsup:

[flyingP]

by the way, that last model looks just like my dogs face:

:surprised ........... OK I want to see a photo of that :curious:

[BikiniBottom]

good modelling start! xited to see more of your work! keep it on!

[Wilson-3d]

Man I love, love, love that concept sketch. Great compostion. Modeling is looking good too. Nice work.

[HieSpike]

Nice helmet. Remind me of a cross between a strom trooper and a praying mantis. But overall, it looks like a really mean buff (maybe somewhat slow witted) storm trooper that could kick any star wars storm troopers ars! peace out

[tlggungor]

nice work
my second favourite challenger after virtuoso

SEE MY CİTY ,SHİPS ,GUARDS

[flyingP]

thanks guys

@HieSpike: It was reminding me of SW Strom troopers too at one stage, not quite sure why, and Anders was thinking the same earlier too, just for comparison though I've googled again
http://www.chez.com/starwarsempire/images/stormtrooper.jpg

[JamesMK]

Just in to sort of second that it does not look like a SW ST... On a generic level, anything that's composed of small softish shells will of course have something in common with other things composed of small softish shells... but that's another story...

[overcontrast]

what i meant was it SORTA looks like that...hahah lol... i meant no offence... btw i dont have a cam rite now.. so here is a image that closely matches my dog :D

http://www.d105.net/school/Hodgkins/bulldog.gif

keep up da good work mate :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bounce: :bounce:

[flyingP]

i meant no offence...

none taken, I was just curious, and I do rather like Bulldogs :thumbsup:

[overcontrast]

hey thats gr8 man.... hey r u just gonna post some updates here or what?... :bounce:

[flyingP]

maybe tomorrow if I get some time :shrug:

[OKMER]

Yep,excellent!Didn't know there was a bar around here on CGtalk!!!And even more the bosses down here in the place,the pig & the wabbit,they really got humor!!!Nice people around and great pictures on the wa....uh,..my screen...Excellent!!!
...
one beer please!!!:bounce:

Ok,stop!!!Seriously now!
Hé saw you had a 9mt old son!!Great,Gluckseligheit!! !!!just a few more days now,maybe 1 or 2 and i'll be daddy too man,LIVE and DIRECT!!!OOOWHaaaaa!!!:bounce: :) :bounce: :buttrock: :cry: :D :D

Ok,anyway it's late now,gotta go,I know!!!
Be back for sure
Really great start,Don't know 3d(but wanna learn)So cant really give some constructif crits but this looks really really nice!!!

MY SpaceBra 2d:
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=184953

[flyingP]

Ok,stop!!!Seriously now!
Hé saw you had a 9mt old son!!Great,Gluckseligheit!! !!!just a few more days now,maybe 1 or 2 and i'll be daddy too man,LIVE and DIRECT!!!OOOWHaaaaa!!!:bounce: :) :bounce: :buttrock: :cry: :D :D

Closer to 10 and a half months now, and he already seems to be smarter than I am :argh:
Your in for an interesting time mate...oh and sleep deprivation :D
ALL THE BEST :beer:

[Climax]

• and funny thread also:arteest: :wip:

[artemesia66]

Looking good FlyingP.

I really like the way all your stuff looks sort of purposeful--as if everything did something, not just random greeble extrusions all over it.

[flyingP]

Thanks artemesia66 just don't ask me to tell what that stuff actually does :argh:
Oh and you need an Avatar mate :D

@Climax: glad your enjoying it.

so anyway, I now have the last job out of the way so I should be able to find some time to work on this over the next few days I hope :thumbsup:

[Kraull]

So, you haven't took a break I see?

Don't know a lot about your concept for this thread but it's sure that I'll stay tune to find out where it will lead!

[flyingP]

So, you haven't took a break I see?


nope, but I could do with a long one :cry:

[Squibbit]

hey dude what's 'two-headed chicken' in german ?

[flyingP]

how am I supposed to know ?

"Huhn mit zwei Köpfen" just came from my wife though :shrug:

any particular reason for asking ??

[JamesMK]

I'd suggest "doppel-geköpft huhn"... has a bit more twist to it :D

[flyingP]

what do chickens have to do with potatoes.

OK I can can see I am going to have to update before this thread gets out of control again :rolleyes: .... although you'll have to wait I wanted to sit down nice and relaxed with a beer tonight and sketch up the rest of that armour :thumbsup: , in the meantime I am finally cleaning my office :scream: for inspiration (seems to work for you Wabbit)

[Squibbit]

i needed to name a wine...


dunno any german but that wabbit's version sounded a bit cooler .. ? :curious:

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101312502_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101312502_large.jpg)

so, starting up again with the arm, it's rough but gives me a better idea of what I'd like. I am however still a bit unclear on the hand, might just do that separately later.

[greentek]

man your sketches are absolutely fantstic!!!:thumbsup: great job Brian!!!
and it's my favorite sketching style though i can't use it myself because of lack of skill..
really great job mate!
keep it up and cheers.. :beer:

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101317121_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101317121_large.jpg)

the rest (sort of) and way out of proportion but I'm just trying to come up with a rough consistent design, crit the thing to hell :D

[flyingP]

just hope the damn thing isn't going to become 'too' detailed for the composition :hmm:

[flyingP]

man your sketches are absolutely fantstic!!!:thumbsup: great job Brian!!!
and it's my favorite sketching style though i can't use it myself because of lack of skill..


practice.......that and I am too lazy to make it more detailed :D

[Climax]

Looking good pig! :D, awsome scketches and nice modeling too!

[Cartesius]

Really great sketches, Brian, you are very talented! Just remember to not go overboard with the details when you start modeling - the scene should be "epic" so in the end it might not be necessary for you to spend all this time doing outstanding armour (although I would love to see that soldier materialize in all its 3D glory!) :thumbsup:

/Anders

[Tommy Lee]

looking good buddy:thumbsup:

[flyingP]

Just remember to not go overboard with the details when you start modeling - the scene should be "epic" so in the end it might not be necessary for you to spend all this time doing outstanding armour

yeah but then go back to the initial concept sketch, the figure takes up a good half of the image, I don't want it overcomplicated, but then I think it may look a bit weak if it is 'too' simple as well :shrug: .......the trick for me is going to be finishing all this in time :scream:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

SO...ok ...chop chop now..with aal that detail on the guy...hands are full of modeling..yes? :bounce:

EDIT
Engrish Translator: aal =all

[flyingP]

yes :argh:

[terraarc]

Hope I didn't miss much of the fun in the last 349 posts!!! :D

I'm here to say what a great job you're doing with that character (with of without hands)...
His face kind of reminds me my council member sketch....apart from the fact that he is a soldier and not a council member with a long robe!!

:bounce: I'll be waiting for updates!!

[flyingP]

His face kind of reminds me my council member sketch....apart from the fact that he is a soldier and not a council member with a long robe!!


:curious: got a link to it ??

Edit: found it....looks a bit like a SW storm trooper too (just kidding :D)

[terraarc]

flyingP:
:curious: got a link to it ?? The first thing that popped in my mind when I saw this kind of head was this..... :D
Just a link to my thread.... (see signature)

PS: Sorry, I didn't post this as a thread spamming... :shrug:

[artemesia66]

Those sketches are awesome. Both your style and your ideas are great. I've been trying to design something armourish for the one closeup military figure in my challenge (not something i've ever done before or know anything about),and your drawings just make me cry. One thing: I'm not sure if he's meant to be human exactly, but to my eye he looks a little short in the pecs.

[flyingP]

One thing: I'm not sure if he's meant to be human exactly, but to my eye he looks a little short in the pecs.

yes and no, want it to be something recognisable with a few hints of alienness. Don't take the proportions on those sketches to seriously either, they're just intended as a 'design aid' :D

[pBarrelas]

Congrats dude!! You have a very good hand drawing skills!! I'm really liking your WIP, keep on!!:thumbsup:

[jddog]

:buttrock: Flying... that's :bounce:

yeah like me, probably I work too much on some details (and not in others one)... but this looks so good

jdd

[rattlesnake]

i really like your design mate...when i saw your sketch i thought the left leg was a huge gun or something...and thinking in that i think is not bad idea to create a mega machine gun for this soldier!


good work friend:thumbsup:

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101587660_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101587660_large.jpg)

sorry for the lack of updates, here at least is one :)

[flyingP]

oh and the shoulder pads are still very :wip: they're a bit bigger than in the sketch atm, not sure if they'll stay that way :shrug:

and thanks for the support guys :thumbsup:

[JamesMK]

Those shoulder pads looks really good actually... I say keep'em, and beef up the arms a bit to match :wise: So, stop playing with your z-spheres and finish your challenge, Brian...

[flyingP]

So, stop playing with your z-spheres and finish your challenge, Brian...

bastard.....seeing as I was hoping to use Zbrush at some stage in this I sort of need to know how it works :wise: and it is pretty damn cool


and change you avatar back, that thing is giving me nightmares :scream:

[JamesMK]

and change you avatar back, that thing is giving me nightmares :scream:
*evil laughter* ... will not change back. :D

[flyingP]

Sicko wabbit :wise:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

uselless Post ....I DECLARE AVATAR CRISES UNTIL THE WABBIT GOES TO HIS OLD AVATAR :bounce:

[flyingP]

uselless Post ....I DECLARE AVATAR CRISES UNTIL THE WABBIT GOES TO HIS OLD AVATAR :bounce:

If he doesn't I'm threatening to use a picture of myself in mine :eek: :scream: :argh:

[DimitrisLiatsos]

...er...good idea...let me check where i have the most hairy ungly and disgusting pic of mine.... :scream:

[Squibbit]

oh no somebody do something !

[flyingP]

I'm serious ......I'M A PIG ON THE EDGE :scream:

[JamesMK]

I'm serious ......I'M A PIG ON THE EDGE :scream:
OH MY GOD! rofl.... "Pig on the edge... uh-huh"... Am I the only one hearing a potential R'n'B floorfiller here?

I might change if I can come up with a more scary avatar.

[tlggungor]

very clean modeling I love it :thumbsup:

[Tommy Lee]

I wish I could model like this... Looking very good:thumbsup:

[flyingP]

I wish I could model like this...

what slowly? :scream:
(although lack of updates are partially due to lack of time lately :( )

apart from that considering your skills at visualising your ideas in 2D Tommy it's only a matter of practice and you'll be kicking some serious 3D butt IMO :wise:

and thank you very much -tolga- :)

[DimitrisLiatsos]

Hey man..where is the pic u are saying(of u on the edge) u are reffering in my thread...wanna see.



By the way nice update the last, but i say now...go faster now :bounce:

[flyingP]

Hey man..where is the pic u are saying(of u on the edge) u are reffering in my thread...wanna see.

no seriously that's me... I am a pig :blush:

and I am working....well I am supposed to be.....instead wasting time typing this :argh:


:D

[Squibbit]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~manfex/panu/pigwork.jpghumm..????? :D

[flyingP]

http://koti.mbnet.fi/~manfex/panu/pigwork.jpghumm..????? :D

rofl

OK my secret is out :D

[greentek]

hi Brian..
man, your last update is outstanding piece of design and modeling! :eek:
great stuff mate! :thumbsup:
cheers.. :beer:

[flyingP]

thanks mate

just so happens I'm just in the process of rendering another update.....once again it's not a lot but I'll explain why when I post......basically it's the elbow :eek:

:D

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101926770_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101926770_large.jpg)

I hate elbows dammit....you really have to admire those medieval armorers, it is not so easy coming up with a mechanically functional piece of armour, I'd at least like to have a try though....there is another render coming shortly

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101927163_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1101927163_large.jpg)

not yet finished but here it is with the arm bent the inner plates are rigged to fold when the lower arm moves

[JamesMK]

Much or not - it looks very good and pretty clever too in my oh-so-humble opinion. :thumbsup:

[claudiojordao]

Wow man, what an excelent job you've been doing here! Sorry for not posting sooner!

[Nomad]

Wow :eek: what fantastic details & design!!

Great work :thumbsup: Can`t wait for the textures part.

[flyingP]

@claudio_jordao many thanks and thanks for visiting :D

@Nomad yeah texturing is going to be fun....well not so much the texturing as the UV maps :hmm:

and thanks Wabbit :thumbsup:

[overcontrast]

hey aweosme going man... been a while i didnt checked this thread out.. seems like uve progressed a lot... keep up the good works man... ur going awesome :thumbsup:

[Squibbit]

you got easily one of the most smoothest , coolest designs here , dude :thumbsup:

[arturro]

Hi there! It's obvious that he looks great, so no need to emphasize that again:thumbsup: But I have a question... did you try to arrange him into the pose that you have presented in your sketch? I think that with this design of the helmet the pose which looks amazing on the sketch, won't look good with this guy... The helmet os quite flat and long, and if this guy looks up, it may look strange.

[DimitrisLiatsos]

you got easily one of the most smoothest , coolest designs here , dude :thumbsup:

:bounce: ...He speaks the truth and nothing but the truth :thumbsup: :love:

...er..now that i remember ...i would also like to see the PIG ON THE EDGE :scream:


Now ..step on it! :)

[terraarc]

Nice update flyingP! :thumbsup:
Love the extra details, clean model, and functionality! :)

Waiting for more!

[flyingP]

Hi there! It's obvious that he looks great, so no need to emphasize that again:thumbsup: But I have a question... did you try to arrange him into the pose that you have presented in your sketch? I think that with this design of the helmet the pose which looks amazing on the sketch, won't look good with this guy... The helmet os quite flat and long, and if this guy looks up, it may look strange.

been waiting for someone to pick up on that :applause: and you're quite right......to be honest though I am rather sceptical that I can recreate that pose at all as I have drawn it, in 3D. I often tend to be a bit more liberal with perspective in 2D ( I cheat ) but then bending the rules are easier with a 2D drawing than with a 3D model. I'll try and come as close as I can or rethink the pose/composition a bit ......nothing is carved in stone here as yet.


Squibbit, overcontrast, DimitrisLiatsos, terraarc .....:blush: thanks guys

[jddog]

Impressive quality of modelling, extemely nice curves and design and what wonderful details... Flying, this is awersome ! :thumbsup: + :applause:

jdd

[Lelantos]

That charachter is awesome great detailing.

there are so many great artists here and i haven't even see half of them but i am glad to see your models :thumbsup:

Keep this awesome models up and coming:beer:
(oh dont forget your concept designs rock:buttrock: )

[TKraccoon]

I have enjoyed watching your progress quite a bit so I must congradulate you on your efforts. The level of detail you are getting into is very impressive, I hope your computer doesn't explode during the final render.

You guys really need to start sucking though, otherwise it will be to obvious us lesser peons have no chance! :D Keep up the nice work, and best of luck! I look forward to seeing how this unfolds further :)

[flyingP]

You guys really need to start sucking though, otherwise it will be to obvious us lesser peons have no chance!

unlikely...my thread seems to have been getting a disproportionate number of views ( has surprised the hell out of me too to be honest ) but there is a lot of really good work floating around in a lot of entries here that seem to be getting a bit overlooked......and then there is the stuff the guys are doing in the 2D section a lot of which is really kicking butt.
Aaaannnnnd to be honest I doubt I'll manage to finish this there are still far to many holes in my knowledge which I am still trying to fill (which is one of my reasons for having a go at this challenge to start with)

All the same I really appreciate the support guys :thumbsup:

[jamacsween]

flyingP,

Detail is incredible but when I saw the front page of your thread with the elbow sketch, my first thought was some kind of creature with lense like eyes and an articulated neck (close one eye, de-focus and squint...maybe see what I mean, ok maybe not, like trying to pick shapes from clouds).

Look forward to more

JA

[terraarc]

flyingP:
unlikely...my thread seems to have been getting a disproportionate number of views ( has surprised the hell out of me too to be honest ) but there is a lot of really good work floating around in a lot of entries here that seem to be getting a bit overlooked......and then there is the stuff the guys are doing in the 2D section a lot of which is really kicking butt.
Aaaannnnnd to be honest I doubt I'll manage to finish this there are still far to many holes in my knowledge which I am still trying to fill (which is one of my reasons for having a go at this challenge to start with)
It seems like the start of December and eventually winter has brought some general AMIGMI? = "am I gonna make it?" thoughts in most of the CG talkers here.... :)

Man, I believe that (taking your initial concept) you're not that far! You already have the SShip and working on the main front character!! (Oohh, did I mention that he is looking really BIG in the composition?) I think you're on track with it! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I myself thinking of the AMIGMI? sundrome as a virus I have to move out of my brain!!

KBytes of support and encouragement and a strong dose of the Gallic potion (http://www.asterix.com/) to you!!

[flyingP]

like trying to pick shapes from clouds.


you know I honestly spent hours doing that as a kid, Auckland where I grew up has great clouds for that IMO...big and fluffy and they change quickly....they're rather seldom where I am now and it's funny I have often mentioned to my wife I really miss them :cry:

@terraarc don't get me wrong I am not giving up or anything just I have higher priorities on actually learning something out of this (which I believe I am doing), if I meet the deadline in time so much the better but I don't want it to hold me up from experimenting with a bit of stuff here (and in the end the more confident I become with this medium the faster I will be) .
All in all if I can get this figure finished then I'm not too far away methinks :thumbsup:

[JamesMK]

Don't forget the high priority you've set for playing UT, SC and HW2 :rolleyes:

[flyingP]

Don't forget the high priority you've set for playing UT, SC and HW2 :rolleyes:

Bastard....guess who's getting a nice very ripe can of Pal sent to them for Christmas....and I am still waiting on HW2 anyway :hmm:

[flyingP]

http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1102158978_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/7/3783/3783_1102158978_large.jpg)

not really happy with a lot of this at the moment...and to be honest I really like some decent crit on it.
I will however keep banging my head against the wall until I feel it's acceptable ....or I am unconscious

[Squibbit]

find a soft wall then , muhahahaha!!!

j/k

hehehe

[flyingP]

find a soft wall then , muhahahaha!!!

j/k

hehehe

thank you Squibitt, very useful advice, I think you can be promoted to bastard now as well :D

[Squibbit]

*happy dance*:bounce:

[flyingP]

*happy dance*:bounce:

well....you've earned it :)

[Squibbit]

don't worry , u can feel pretty satisfied with that model when u see my next 3d update...not to mention the ones already there...urgh... :)

[Divaise]

:applause: haha that's some great character !!! very funny guy

[flyingP]

I made a funny :curious:

no one takes me seriously any more :cry:


:D

[Squibbit]

heh, yea , I know u wanted some serious crits but I couldn't come up with anything :)maybe you're overcritical ?

[JamesMK]

And now the time has come for a dose of RealCrits (tm), proudly presented by Wabbit Media Inc, a division of WheelieCarrot Industries (in turn part of the BuckTooth/Currywurst Investment Group, ultimately owned by Lord Panzerpants of the galactic federation headquarters on Neuronomicon IX).

The only problem with this model in its current phase is that it doesn't really have a problem.

If one should push the art of crits to an extreme point, one would be able to deliver the following thoughts:

The design, as implemented this far in 3D, is fairly middle-of-the-road. The modeling is apparently executed with such careful precision that the result ends up lacking character, at least if one considers the vital nature of the 2D concept sketches.

The 3D incarnation does not push anything to the extreme, which makes the result have exclusively moderate features rather than something that really pops. Everything about it is good and clean, which confusingly enough becomes its weakness.

It is not beefy, nor thin. Neither ridiculously over-armoured, nor jumpsuitishly slim. Normally these would be good things, but if we push it really hard, it becomes clear that we could also consider this to result in something that is 'average'. And I believe this feeling is what makes you think you're not too happy with it.

So, with all due respect (and you know I'm almost never serious anyway) I would advise you to stop being so bloody careful when you're modeling. Your drawn sketches get a lot of their strength from the fact that they are really loose and relaxed, because you are so confident about your drawing abilities. That loose and relaxed feeling should be present in the 3D model as well. Be a bit sloppier! When you extrude something - do it a little too far. When you move something - move it a little more than you planned.

As for the character itself, I would like to see a stronger V-shape on the upper half of the torso, and a little more neck.

This program was sponsored by Campbells Wabbit soup. Tune in again next week.

[Squibbit]

yea that's exactly what I would've said, but couldn't quite find the words , so
I had to wait for someone who could :D

[flyingP]

James you never cease to amaze me :eek: and thank you yes you may just have hit a few nails on the head with that :thumbsup: I'm not sure how much of that I can resolve yet as those are confidence issues that may only resolve themselves with time and practice...very valid points though.

[JamesMK]

Never underestimate the power of the wabbit :D

[flyingP]

Never underestimate the power of the wabbit :D

Scary :eek: :scream:

[overcontrast]

hey hey hey.. piggy dude seems like u got a body...;) nice modleing man.. wen is the final thing commin up.. nice work ur doing... keep up the amazing works that ur doin;) :thumbsup:

[ace4016]

I like the models you have here. Hope to see an update soon.

[Climax]

• Hello again, cool updates Brian, Nice details. by the Look of the helmet, I almost can see who is below
--/\___/\
-/-- • •--\
-l - @ - --l
-\__u___/____:thumbsup:
/ - - - - - \____/
l_________l
\ - -___- -/
-l____l___l
- i___l l__l........:D ................:shrug: Sorry

[uwil]

some clean and pro modeling here Brian, speechless:), but sort of:cry:

[flyingP]

@ overcontrast interesting Avatar update.... you've been to a lot of office parties by the looks of things :)

@ ace4016 thanks and I'll try and sit down with it a bit more tonight, I am not actually working, just got plenty of private stuff I have been putting aside for the last year that I really need to get out of the way

@Climax :applause:

@uwil actually the modelling is pretty bad in places, I do not find the mechanical type stuff that easy, hence the time it has been taking me too

Cheers guys

:beer:

[terraarc]

The soldier is moving to a good finish! :thumbsup:
I'd say that the "Wabbit" has some great points but I'm not sure if this is true! :argh:

The only thing that hits me is the difference from your concept's soldier and the small luck of emotions to that soldier, he looks perfect! I'm sure that you have something in your mind though....

Sitting back and waiting for more!

:beer:

[flyingP]

I'd say that the "Wabbit" has some great points but I'm not sure if this is true! :argh:


his analysis was pretty damn good actually at least he has pretty much hit those points that are bothering me

[Virtuoso]

Brian.....................What's up,have'nt talked or heard frrom you in ages?:shrug:

Ok my time to talk..............First of all our mutual friend james Mk,has come up with a spot on excellent crit or suggestion on your work with this torso.......I could only repeat what he said.......Perhaps just add the fact that you should think......Beaten up,worn out,torn,ripped apart,chunks missing,twsited,bent almost out of shape,pieces barely hanging on,non-symetrical should be the foremost thing on your mind.......

You have a real nice model,now get that thing beaten up,give it character,give it a real thrashing.........Forget the store-bought like new look.....give it the war torn been through many battles look........In any case I agree with James,and in the end this is your baby,but letting loose is the way I would approach it,just another guy here with yet anothwer opinion,but perhaps some fruit for thought.......All the best Brian,you got the skills,just let them flow freely,and listen to that wild and fun James MK,he is knows his stuff.......Nice to talk to you again,until next time,take care............:arteest: :arteest:

[scn]

Wow.. thats just some awsome work you've got there.. :applause::applause:

And I agree with Virtuoso (member.php?u=3339) .. give the armor some real beatings and it would be perfect! :thumbsup:

[flyingP]

Brian.....................What's up,have'nt talked or heard frrom you in ages?:shrug:

Ok my time to talk..............First of all our mutual friend james Mk,has come up with a spot on excellent crit or suggestion on your work with this torso.......I could only repeat what he said.......Perhaps just add the fact that you should think......Beaten up,worn out,torn,ripped apart,chunks missing,twsited,bent almost out of shape,pieces barely hanging on,non-symetrical should be the foremost thing on your mind.......

You have a real nice model,now get that thing beaten up,give it character,give it a real thrashing.........Forget the store-bought like new look.....give it the war torn been through many battles look........In any case I agree with James,and in the end this is your baby,but letting loose is the way I would approach it,just another guy here with yet anothwer opinion,but perhaps some fruit for thought.......All the best Brian,you got the skills,just let them flow freely,and listen to that wild and fun James MK,he is knows his stuff.......Nice to talk to you again,until next time,take care............:arteest: :arteest:

yeah there are 'a lot' of threads I should have been visiting more to be honest :shrug:

War torn would look a bit out of place here, this thing is supposed to be in the end a huge statue celebrating ancient victories, not sure they would have built it to look like he's just had his butt seriously kicked, but there will be some damage :)

[Virtuoso]

You know i think that would actually be quite cool.It would stand out as something new,something fresh......depicting a true view of what these warriors were really like......Anyways,you got a nice piece of work,and I know it will come out in top form,I know you have the eye and skills for whats needed.Just trying to give you another one from another angle,but you know that.......Go at it strong Brian............:arteest: :wip:

[flyingP]

You know i think that would actually be quite cool.It would stand out as something new,something fresh......depicting a true view of what these warriors were really like......Anyways,you got a nice piece of work,and I know it will come out in top form,I know you have the eye and skills for whats needed.Just trying to give you another one from another angle,but you know that.......Go at it strong Brian............:arteest: :wip:

I am actually quite grateful for the input Michael, and I haven't ruled it out indeed I am not about to rule anything out, I'm just letting things ferment a bit in my mind, until I either decide I AM happy with this direction or I find another that I am happier with....or my head explodes :scream: . A lot of it really comes down to what James was saying I am much more confident with brush strokes than with polygons, I am having to think too much in 3D it is not as yet as instinctive.......all a matter of practice :D

[Lelantos]

Wow that man is so detailed and and great design no words great job this is amazing :buttrock: you rock

keep it up cant wait to see what you are going to do next :thumbsup:

this pigy has an art instict for sure:arteest:

[claudiojordao]

Hey man... less talking and more work flyingP :)
You have a great character... for now... I totally agree with the suggestions of James and Virtuoso, and I also think that you'll have not some real critics, until his texturized and integrated in the scene!
So, come on, gives us more of your great work!

[flyingP]

Hey man... less talking and more work flyingP :)

it's not so much talking as technical difficulties at the moment :hmm:

http://www.bjread.joice.net/fposts/argh.jpg

[Squibbit]

he's turned into a baby !!!

[flyingP]

he's turned into a baby !!!

lol.....but yep I'm having trouble reaching the buttons at the top :)

[flyingP]

Kind of feel a bit uncomfortable posting this, especially in view of a lot of the great support I've received from a lot of good people in here, but I won't be finishing this this time around, I've been down the last week or so thanks to a rather unpleasant bug my son brought back from day care, and one or two thing other things have happened/been decided in the meantime that are going to keep me busy for a while or at least cause me to rethink a few major things next year.
That being said I will be coming back to this later, when I have bit more of an opportunity to make a "decent" job of it.

ummm sorry :blush:

and best luck to all the rest of you :)

[Tommy Lee]

Hope you'll be back on ya feet soon. I am sick as well at the moment.
Good luck for your projects right now.
Cheers buddy:beer:

Tom

[Squibbit]

Health and Happy Holidays ! cya later!

[ace4016]

Sorry to hear your out. Happy holidays to you and I hope you feel better.

[duddlebug]

ho hum... unlucky... but stuff happens.

You're gonna end up with as many 'projects' on the go as i have!! so much to do and so little time...?

I hope you and your son are both feeling better. Have a great Christmas and i hope whatever you do in 2005 goes fantastically!!

Maybe see you in the next challenge...?

Keep on truckin'... and flyin'...

[DimitrisLiatsos]

http://www.bjread.joice.net/fposts/argh.jpg



AHHHHH...what are u doing taking a pic of me on the keyboard..? :D :D ...


Hey little Brian...come to Uncle Dimi...here kitty kityy...oops :argh: ...er..here little baby...just look at those hands...weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[JamesMK]

Don't know if it's safe to expose the kids to those Mac thingies at such young age though... might leave mental scars for life...

[flyingP]

Don't know if it's safe to expose the kids to those Mac thingies at such young age though... might leave mental scars for life...

hah! a new PC and now you think you can take the piss huh? :p :D

[artemesia66]

Sorry to hear you're out. good luck with whatever else you have on the go. :)

[flyingP]

Thank you Janet, I appreciate that. :D and I wish the best of luck with your entry :thumbsup:

Cheers

Brian

[Divaise]

FlyingP very nice thread you got man :P Nice robo anyway I wish you good luck :P

[xeNusion]

neat stuff.

[jddog]

:cry: sad to know that you can't finish it... so sorry... Your project was really interesting, and until now you did a really wonderful work. Anyway good luck to you and :thumbsup: + :applause: ....

at next time Flying...

jdd

[flyingP]

Yep sorry a few things just got in the way :shrug:

[EmpY]

Hey my friend, sorry to hear that. Your concept is one of my favorites, and I
hope you'll be able to finish it some time soon!! You Must!!!
I still don't know if I can finish mine but many thanks for droping by and giving me your
thoughts!! Always good to hear your input!!!
I'll write you a longer email over the weekend :-).

Cheers Brian!
-daniel

[flyingP]

Hey my friend, sorry to hear that. Your concept is one of my favorites, and I
hope you'll be able to finish it some time soon!! You Must!!!
I still don't know if I can finish mine but many thanks for droping by and giving me your
thoughts!! Always good to hear your input!!!
I'll write you a longer email over the weekend :-).

Cheers Brian!
-daniel

Look forward to it Daniel :thumbsup: and you had bloody well better finish yours I like where it is heading.....and I like the fact that I got given my own planet :cool:
we'll talk some more this weekend :beer:

[JamesMK]

Just to make sure you're not getting depressed and potentially suicidal, here's your special edition WSA (custom version for sucky quitter pigs)

http://web.telia.com/~u48039569/WSApig.gif

[flyingP]

custom version for sucky quitter pigs)


Wahahahaha bastard......just be thankful that I've helped to improve your chances of actually winning something this time wabbit :p

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