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Garma 09-30-2004, 03:03 PM Hey,
I'm trying to improve my face drawing skills here. Reference used. It's not a paint over, but she has the same pose and almost the same expression of the ref. I changed the lighting.
Please tell me how to improve the mood, realism, background, basically anything is welcome.
thanks!
http://oli.tudelft.nl/csr/huizen/hg/cgt/sveta.jpg
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andrewley
09-30-2004, 06:49 PM
This is a nice start Garma. Here's a few things I noticed
The hair seems like a single mass rather than made up of strands
The eye on the left is larger than the right.
The crease in the arm seems a little odd
Her body in the background looks a little disjointed
The mouth feels a little flat.
Good work though - keep going
fersteger
09-30-2004, 07:30 PM
Very nice, I'd say the fold of the arm is off, in the position its in the bicep should overlap the forearm but you have it the other way around, a very slight change. The outline of the chin right side of pic is too strong you should fade it out more like how the arms outlines are faded, since it is in shadow. Same with the edge of the upper lip on the right side as well.
Also around the eye and forehead on the right the color saturation is too much, I see a orange circle, it'd look nice if the whole shadow part of face was more one tone and not saturated in that one area. Or bring that coloor into more of the face. The eyes look fake, the values are off around the edges and they don't seem to fit into the sockets, look like they are pasted on.
I like the approach and it's very well done, I don't think the background really needs work, it sets a good mood for the piece just being all light, I think. Good work!
Garma
09-30-2004, 10:29 PM
great crits guys, you are right. I'll work on them and keep you updated :thumbsup:
Ilikesoup
09-30-2004, 10:35 PM
Great job, Garma! Only things I noticed as needing work are her hair and her right shoulder.
hair--@ right of the part in her hair, the swoop wouldn't have a highlight. This is assuming that the light source is directly from the left--it would be obscured by her face. The area to the left of her part however, needs more of a highlight, more the appearance of individual hairs. (it's a shame, because you did a very nice job on the right side :sad: )
her right shoulder--IMO should have a more gradual arc to it, unless she is a very thin girl. I assume that you've intentionally blurred that shoulder to indicate the distance from her face, but I think it's a bit over-blurred. Would look more natural if you did her face in extreme detail (pores, etc) but it would be much easier to sharpen the detail a bit on her shoulder and strap.
You asked about changing the mood. I don't think the picture needs it, but easiest way is to change the background color. Warm colors, especially flesh tones, create intimacy while cool colors create cool feelings. You've got plenty of space in the upper left part of the picture to give context as to why she's there. A crucifix might suggest she's in a convent or a religious household. A painter's easel behind her would be cool and would fit her expression nicely. Hope that helps.
Nice work! Maybe you can smoothing her face abit? And abit more shading on the hair would eb nice! :thumbsup:
Garma
10-01-2004, 04:57 PM
update time.
I worked on all the suggestions you guys gave me, but I'm not too sure I've succeeded. Let me explain.
- As you can see I toned the whole left of the head the same dark color.
- I'm not sure about the mouth. Does it still need more depth?
- The left eye is still slightly smaller than the right but I don't really dare to make it even more smaller because of her expression. Do you guys think I really have to?
Ilikesoup, thanks for the suggstions about the background, I like the idea of the easel. Still thinkin about that.
more crits welcome!
http://csr.oli.tudelft.nl/huizen/hg/cgt/sveta1001.jpg
fersteger
10-01-2004, 08:51 PM
I think the side of the face in shadow is still too hard of an edge, and there should be some bright higlights on the hair, like the value along the skin, where it basically disappers into the light of the BG,
I think the right eye should be a little larger, more white space on the bottom right side below and to the right of the pupil, it will change where she is looking a little, and put her gaze closer. These are just things I would do but I think if you have learned something from doing a painting its just as good to move on and do more. Nice.
flyingP
10-02-2004, 07:50 PM
overall impression lookig at it "as a whole" is I like it, the detail is letting it down though, andrewley covered a lot of the points earlier, although I think you may have taken him a bit to literally on the hair, think you need to soften it a bit.
Personally I would concentrate on the eyes they're what make this image work at the moment IMO although the eye on the right still needs work a: it's too white IMO b: that dark ring in the iris is a bit much or needs softening c: there is still the size issue although but go carefully with that.
The lips still look a bit flat and I'd soften them a bit.
Keep going though has real potential :thumbsup:
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