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ZEROSKULL
09-23-2004, 01:02 AM
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Boxsmiley
09-23-2004, 01:09 AM
Those look great! I was expecting Reed Richards and his wife to look a bit older than that. But whatever, i like the Thing...for some reason i like how they went away from the exaggerated large body, it makes him seem more realistic and believeable, in my opinion at least.

KolbyJukes
09-23-2004, 01:10 AM
The Thing looks incredibly lame IMO, I can't believe they're doing him as a guy in makeup. Jessica Alba is...mmmmm...as usual.

bentllama
09-23-2004, 02:13 AM
Fantastically lame!

FloydBishop
09-23-2004, 03:10 AM
This one looks better:

http://www.filmhobbit.com/moviereviews/images/fantasticfour/Fant-Thing.JPG

It's from the unreleased 1994 film.

crazy3dman
09-23-2004, 05:39 AM
Oh man, how disappointing. It's been a while since I've read FF, but it's always been one of my favorites. I wanted this to be good. I was really hoping they'd stick with the classic costumes. And wasn't Johnny Storm blonde? And the Thing! What have they done? He looks so low budget it's laughable.

I understand taking some artistic license, but, for instance, the reason the SpiderMan movies work so well, is they feel like the comic. This just doesn't. At least from what I can tell. :banghead:

Ollarin
09-23-2004, 06:47 AM
Ahhh...Fantastic four. Never used to miss an episode when i was young. :/

I agree, The Thing looks...Wierd. He doesn't look anything like the cartoon! :argh:

SheepFactory
09-23-2004, 07:02 AM
I cant wait for this movie , fantastic 4 was one of my favorite comics growing up.

wash
09-23-2004, 07:40 AM
I agree, The Thing looks...Wierd. He doesn't look anything like the cartoon! :argh:
That's because they went for the original Kirby design (http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/the_thing.jpg) from the very first Fantastic Four (http://www.samcci.comics.org/fantasticfour/002.htm) issues. The less muddy design we all know came only later.
I believe this design gives Chiklis more room for his acting.

ghopper
09-23-2004, 07:54 AM
They could have better matched the characters from the comic. The Thing looks too human and in the comics they looked more "mature" as well.

danielh68
09-23-2004, 07:55 AM
I think they made a mistake choosing the old Kirby design. No one really identifies with it. It's too dated. Plus, the thing that really makes the 'Thing' is his rocky uni-brow.

I'm not to excited about this project. At first glance, I couldn't really tell who is Jonny and who is Richard. I always envisioned Richard as an older guy. Concerning Sue...well...Alba is hot, but she's not really the Sue type. I thought they would pick someone like Julia Stiles (spelling) or some other actress from similar stock.

beaker
09-23-2004, 08:00 AM
I'm glad they went with that design for Thing. Just think about it. The big bulky brick like design we all know and love looks cool in the comic but is totally silly and looks retarded in real life. You would probably all laugh at it and say it looks dumb if they went the other way. Atleast this way looks like something that could actually exist in real life.

Pavlovich
09-23-2004, 08:56 AM
meh...i have a feeling that no matter what you do, dressing somebody up in a foam rubber rock suit is just a lose-lose situation. i know how everybody on CGtalk hates CG, but i'm going to have to go out on a limb and say maybe a CG character might have worked here.

Siriol
09-23-2004, 11:04 AM
Is that Ioan Gruffudd playing Reed Richards? Should be interesting to see! My friend in in Vancouver at the moment and they have already started filming it just a few blocks away from her appartment! I loved this cartoon as a kid, i hope beyond hope they do this well!!!

Clanger
09-23-2004, 12:17 PM
In two minds here, I wanted to see a CG'd thing and the gut reaction was a little disappointment, but then I thought Hell Boy with his suit worked well so maybe it'll be OK at least he should react with the other characters properly.

So I think the juries out.

dudeguy
09-23-2004, 12:42 PM
LAME!

ARGH!

Who the hell does the casting for the recent Marvel movies?!

Have they ever even looked at or read any of the comic books?!

Let's take a look at some of the bad calls.

Recent winner Jessica Alba as Susan Richards, she just doesn't look like a Susan Richards in her face and she's not a natural blond, too much change required to suit the part. Out of all the blond actresses out there that can actually act, are much better looking and probably would have cost them less, they picked Jessica Alba!

The guy from Not Another Teen Movie playing Johnny Storm looks weak too, from the thumbnail I was scared that they cast Matt LeBlanc (Joey from friends) as the Human Torch. I can just picture the dialogue now... "How you doin? Flame on!" Honestly, these days I wouldn't be suprised.

Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane, another horrible actress, doesn't have that much sex appeal. Mary Jane is suposed to be a bombshell as she's an actress and model, totally knock you off your feet, Kirsten dunst does not do this...at all! She's not a natural redhead either, doesn't suit the part.

Ben Affleck as Matt Murdock, just when I thought this guy couldn't make a worse movie, he somehow manages to suprise me everytime I see his next upcoming film. Very hard to take this guy seriously, and again, he just doesn't look like Matt Murdock. I think Matthew McConaughey would have been a great Matt Murdock. Daredevil casting was just all wrong though.

The guy from Deep Blue Sea that they cast as the Punisher didn't look right to me either, he just didn't look bad @$$ enough. Somebody like Bruce Campbell would have been totally bad@$$ and suited the part a lot better.

I just find it sad to see them dropping the ball on characters that I love, especially when they could easily do it right with the amount of time and money they invest into these type of projects.

Upcoming comic movies need to take a look at what what Bryan Singer did with X-men, the only recent comic to movie flick that was done well and he pulled it off with a limited budget too. Batman Begins shows huge promise in terms of casting/look too.

Frank Lake
09-23-2004, 12:52 PM
I remember when I first saw these images in the newpaper...

I felt ILL that they chose the people that they did. Yeah I'm sure they are all 'good' actors, but come-on! This group of charaters are ICONIC in nature and should be treated as such!!! Hell just their actions themselves bleed 'quality character'. These actors just don't cut it for the character of the character.

Sus don't look 'mature', Johnnie doesn't look younger OR like he should, Reed definatly is WAY too young, and frankly that's just not Ben Grimm. These actors are simply far too carbon copy "eternally young" Hollywood actors without a presence of character to protray ICONS.

The ONLY hope for the movie is too have an OUTSTANDINGLY BRILLIANT actor for Dr DOOM. :hmm:

mummey
09-23-2004, 01:40 PM
You comic-book guys are funny... :scream:

For X-Men. The director actually forbade any of the actors/actresses from reading any comic books. His thinking was that the movie was 'his' interpretation of the X-Men and he didn't want to try to compete with the comic book. I think the technique worked rather well as a result.

The quit expecting to see the comic books characters you grew up with when you see these shots. If the director wanted it to look like the comic book he would have chose George Cloony as Mr. Fantastic, a blond Diane Lane as the Invisable Girl, Matt Damon as the Human Torch, and Ben Affleck (god help us) as the Thing. Could you imagine how awful that movie would be!?!

My opinion, I'm waiting until a trailer comes out before having an opinion. Its obviously going to be different than the comic book, so I'm not going to be all broken-hearted about that fact.

Finally, if you wanna bitch and moan about a comicbook based movie, need I remind that they green-lighted the movie version of Aquaman...

-b

DannyDreams
09-23-2004, 02:02 PM
Look CG kids, you can't have thing. Leave him to the SFX make up artists. I think he looks good and glad they don't look "Just" like the comics. There not suppose to, blue spandex don't transfer well to movies. They look good in comics not on film. This movie is worth it to see Jessica Albba run around in that tight little outfit she has on. Mmmmm daddy like! :drool:

Blazer
09-23-2004, 04:51 PM
The best part is how it seems like the thing's hand is kind of coming off because he bent his suit too much and it tore in the back.....:eek:

Sil3
09-23-2004, 05:09 PM
Is this a JOKE?

It must be...rotflol at that The THING...Richards and Sue look to young...im not going to see it.

I understand when something has to be changed to translate well to Big Screen, but come on...what is this?

I dont even want to imagine Dr Doom on this "style". It might look like a Power Ranger....

justanutherdude
09-23-2004, 05:51 PM
Just wanted to add a couple of things.... about hoping for a great Doctor Doom... umm, I hear it's the head doctor from "Nip/Tuck"... who used to be on "Charmed"! Uh-oh...

I have read that they are actually going for much much more humor than X-Men or Spider-Man... that may be another Uh-oh.....

Not a big fan of the Things costume but I'll reserve judgement until I see it in action... also their ages, I believe are based on the current comic book "Ultimate Fanstatsic Four" where Reed, Sue and Johnny are much closer in age than the classic books.

Okay..... *comic geek mode off*

Levitateme
09-23-2004, 06:36 PM
I think that the pics of the 4 do look pretty goofy. the 'thing' looks nice i thought, but i can't judge this until i see it. but it looks like the people they casted as the roles have NO clue who the fantastic four are. they go to their clubs every weekend and when someone asks them what movie they are doing.

"i dunno some guy about being stretchy, or something"

"what a scoop!"

none of them look like they fit the part in my opinion. just these dumb stupid rich kids who are "beautiful" and get to play in a movie they never even heard of.

Ilikesoup
09-23-2004, 07:51 PM
Holy crap!! WRITING and DIRECTING will decide whether the film succeeds or fails, not how many rocks are stuck on The Thing. I admit I was skeptical when I heard that Ben Grimm would be a man in costume--Michael Chiklis refused to provide his voice to a CG character. I guarantee that he will do a great job with the character and will keep him "human". There were periods of time in the comic that Ben Grimm could become The Thing at will, and at others he was always The Thing. I'm curious to see how they handle this aspect of the story.

As for the tone of the film, I think they'll have to have at least a bit of a pulp sci-fi feel to it. Considering the premise--four astronauts pilot their ship through a cloud of cosmic dust and mutate into superheroes, each with a unique power for fighting badness--it's hard to play that totally straight. My ideal Mr. Fantastic would be William Peterson from CSI, aloof scientist who always gets his man, and I hope he stays as an inventor with a nerdy side, but I'll wait to reserve judgement. IMO the best FF comics I ever read were the ones written and drawn by Walt Simonson in the mid-90's.

Bpanting
09-23-2004, 07:57 PM
If I remember right alot of people complained when they first saw the x-men costumes, or when they heard that green goblin would be wearing the maks in Spiderman. Although the green goblin maks was a little strnge the movie still worked. I have am hoping that they can pull this one off. I am a big fan of the comic, so i waill wait until I see some previews before making any assumptions about the movie.

Ilikesoup
09-23-2004, 09:14 PM
BTW I don't know if anybody saw it, but there was a pretty good spoof of the Fantastic Four on a recent episode of Venture Brothers (Adult Swim, Cartoon Network). The Thing was covered in callouses, not rock; Sue Richards was only able to make her skin invisible, but you could still see muscles, tendons and bones; The Human Torch had to be kept in a vacuum chamber, because he'd catch fire if he were exposed to oxygen. Reed Richards was the only normal one, so he hid the others away when people came to visit. This left Reed plenty of time to tinker in his workshop.

richcz3
09-23-2004, 10:45 PM
Man, I guess I'm in the minority here and I was a big fan of the Fantastic 4 as a kid.
I'll reserve further judgement to see if it follows the series. If the script doesn't measure up...oh well.

I will agree the Things uni brow is character feature sorely lacking, he does look nice or timid. The whites of the eyes so prominent..I don't know about that. Heck, the talk of this movie has been going on forever and it's about time there is actualy a production aimed to get it out.

richcz3

slaughters
09-23-2004, 11:38 PM
Recent winner Jessica Alba as Susan Richards, she just doesn't look like a Susan Richards in her face and she's not a natural blond, too much change required to suit the part. Out of all the blond actresses out there that can actually act, are much better looking and probably would have cost them less, they picked Jessica Alba!And you think all those other actresses are "natural" blondes? Want to buy some swamp land property from me?

Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane, another horrible actress, doesn't have that much sex appeal. Mary Jane is suposed to be a bombshell as she's an actress and model, totally knock you off your feet, Kirsten dunst does not do this...at all! She's not a natural redhead either, doesn't suit the part.Kirsten Dunst has no sex appeal? Doesn't suit the part? This is where I stop listening.

igorstshirts
09-24-2004, 12:22 AM
Man... Since when is 700x530 Hi-Res? These look O.K.

talos72
09-24-2004, 01:10 AM
"green goblin would be wearing the maks in Spiderman"

I'm sorry, but the Power Ranger Goblin mask just killed it for me. The second spidey film was a better fit, but they still had to show the darn Goblin mask at some point.

As for FF, I read a synopsis of what the script was about in ainitcool.com (someone apparently had gotten a hold of a working copy). Dr. Doom is supposedly an American and actually works with the 4 astronauts (FF). He too is supposedly exposed to the same cosmic rays/dust (I believe in the same mission as FF)and when returning to earth some weird organic plates supposedly start covering his body....thus the Doom armor.

I'm already losing faith by the very fact that Dr. Doom, if what I read is true, is becomming a different character. They could have played up the original idea of Doom as an estranged mad scientist living in remote mountains of Eastern Europe. That would have been really cool, but now I am not so sure.

danielh68
09-24-2004, 03:51 AM
Wow, if that's the synopsis, then it'll be really lame. Doom is a cool character with a cool history, why do they need to screw with it?

Rationalizing the poor actor choices for FF with the duds the Xmen wore, doesn't work for me. I really enjoyed FF comics for the characters, visually and emotional. Jessica Alba doesn't cut it. She's gorgeous, but she's just not Sue. And the Thing, personally I like the uni-brow...and, they should have gone the CG route.

greanspam
09-24-2004, 04:24 AM
Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane, another horrible actress, doesn't have that much sex appeal.
woah there, hold the phone... I'd really have to disagree about Kirstens sex appeal.....

Stormy151
09-24-2004, 05:35 AM
IMO, the casting of Reed and Sue Richards is WAY too young. I'll go check out the movie though, I remember I thought Spiderman was going to be stupid as well as X-Men and was pleasantly surprised.

Wasn't wrong about The Hulk though. Man am I glad I didn't see that in the theatre! lol

Jamaludin
09-24-2004, 09:43 AM
lol this is horrible, they look like fashion dolls not super hero's, yuk. And Jessica Alba, I mean come on she is gorgeous but she cant act, and she aint someone you would like to see in such a has to be cool movie. My opinion..

Frank Lake
09-24-2004, 01:50 PM
@mummey & DannyDreams,

Yeah expecting orginal actors who have physical character really seems to be outta the question for a 'fanboy' to demand from a film. *chuckles as he thinks about the X-Men movies.* Yeah suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure. :p

For an FF movie to acutally go beyond "pulp-fiction chessy action film", ala Rambo and dozens of others, the characters have to be more distinctive then just well written. Right now with the current set of 'action figures' we are looking ONLY at a Rambo level film. Yeah I can buy them being younger and more trendy, gotta introduce the characters orgins and such, but to toss the idea of 'real people' for the 'Hollywood ideal' is beyond sickening. And WTF are they doing screwing around with Doom's character for! :cry:

This movie won't make it any further then the last 4 attempts have.

StephanD
09-24-2004, 01:59 PM
OT:I hope Ghost Rider will be good,they could make something awesome out of it.

mummey
09-24-2004, 02:03 PM
OT:I hope Ghost Rider will be good,they could make something awesome out of it.
heh. You could say that. (http://www.ghostridermovie.net/)

What? Wrong ghost rider? :D

StephanD
09-24-2004, 02:08 PM
hehe Johnny 'Blazes'

Nemoid
09-24-2004, 03:23 PM
Mr Reed Richards : the actor could work, but he seems a bit young. true that this charactyer is strange : it couples a scientist's brain into an athletic body. i think it all will depend on how the actor will act.


Jhonny Storm : bad choice IMO. he doesn't seems him at all. Jhonny should be quite blonde, at least with the makeup, and let's not forget it's actually Sue's brother

Sue : she 's actually a very hot babe, but she doesn't seem clever as a character, while we know she has some good brain too from the comics series.

The Thing : uhm.. this seems the first stahe of his transformation, at the start, but then it has to become more rocky as in comics. the version showed in 1994 movie wasn't so bad, safe that he fighted like a boxeur :eek: i have no words for the "broken" arm, but hope it's justified by the plot.


But i have a last thing to say: the most importants thing into a movie are the plot/screenplay, and the director. not the actors or sfx : here the director, if it's supposed to be Tim Story, is IMO a crappy director.

Ergo, this could easily end up to be a crap movie .

This being said, i watched the 1994 movie, recovered in some strange way! so I am prepared to the worst. :scream:

Ilikesoup
09-24-2004, 05:07 PM
As for FF, I read a synopsis of what the script was about in ainitcool.com (someone apparently had gotten a hold of a working copy). Dr. Doom is supposedly an American and actually works with the 4 astronauts (FF). He too is supposedly exposed to the same cosmic rays/dust (I believe in the same mission as FF)and when returning to earth some weird organic plates supposedly start covering his body....thus the Doom armor.(covering ears)Ican'thearyouIcan'thearyouIcan'thearyoulalalalalalaalalalaala!
That's the most retarded idea I've heard in some time. My sunny optimism can't take much more of this!

WHY do films insist on trying to condense 40+ years of comic book character development into a 2 hour movie? Why can't Doom be a villainous character with a foreign accent and an origin shrouded in mystery? Write the character as fans know him, put him in a good story and plan on a successful film with an eagerly anticipated sequel. Then you've got 2 films with which to discuss why he hates the FF, why he's encased in metal and what he likes to eat for breakfast. I blame Tim Burton's Batman for starting this trend--take an American icon superhero, pit him in battle against his greatest archenemy who's opposed Batman since the beginning, then kill him off at the end of the film.

I mean, what if George Lucas thought, "I only have one film to do here. I have to condense the plot elements from three films into one. I can have Darth Vader, after winning his duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi, turn to Luke and shout, 'Who's your daddy? I'm your daddy, Luke!' Luke runs and hugs Vader, but then knees him in the groin. As Vader writhes in pain, Luke, Leia & co. hop into the Millennium Falcon and just blow up Vader and the Death Star once they get clear."

Neil
09-24-2004, 06:11 PM
woah Alba is in it? must... find... more... pictures...

hmm i'm indifferent on THE THING. Hulk did alright making him all digital (even though it was inconsitent in quality, which is something that would most likely happen in all movies), Jabba digital vs. robotic Jabba (i'll take the robot), Garfield being digital (never saw it... but never appealed to me to begin with), Hellboy used a real person ....
There have been hits and misses with this age of decision, and I don't really care because in the end the animation is what is gonna sell me on it either way.

skello
09-25-2004, 06:22 PM
Nooooo!!!:sad: WTF!!! did they do to the thing....someone please shoot the art director.....:twisted:

Neil
09-25-2004, 07:18 PM
(covering ears)I blame Tim Burton's Batman for starting this trend--take an American icon superhero, pit him in battle against his greatest archenemy who's opposed Batman since the beginning, then kill him off at the end of the film.
But the question is, is that what Burton intended. To make 1 really good Batman movie and end it there. Not all movies always fall under the "this is gonna be a trilogy or more" plan. If he only wanted that 1 to be made and hold on it's own, then he had every right to. Because if he didn't, then everyone would be bitchin about how the movie has 'no ending'.

angel
09-26-2004, 05:35 PM
hey guys, could have been worse....

http://www.motionblurstudio.com/wip/images/FFMrfraser.jpg

BRUTICUS
09-26-2004, 06:20 PM
lol
cant stand that guy



thing isnt big enough

mychaleg
10-04-2004, 08:20 AM
They are going to ruin Dr. Doom! I turned a blind eye to the other Marvel movie villains (Bullseye was effing horrendous! Magneto and Mystique have been the only ones I could stomach) but this is the last straw!

***MINOR SPOILER ALERT***
You can't have a good plot with a frickin Dr. Doom that is an American entrepeneur that funds the FF and ends up getting his powers the same way he did. That's sucky. They think they are doing right by the fans changing his name back to Doom (I read originally he had a different name); well I would have rather it be some 'Doom inspired' Hollywood bad guy than dare call this sick joke of an idea the actual Vic von Doom.
***SPOILER OVER***
ORGANIC PLATING AS HIS ARMOR?!?!?!! Am I the only one absolutely pissed?

We are are talking about the same guy who survived HELL and can go toe to toe with Galactus for crying out loud!

So tragic...I leave you with this:

NO ONE RIVALS DOOM!!! NO ONE!!!

Agent Vesago
10-05-2004, 03:12 AM
Can't say I care much for the look of Reed, Sue and Johnny.But the Thing looks like he did when the FF was first published FF Vol. 1 (http://www.chivian.com/chivian/ff/FantasticFourCovers1.html]FF%20Vol.%201) so I'm cool with the "retro" look.
If they are going to do to Dr. Doom what I've been reading I will not see this movie. I just hope that it's false information being fed out on purpose.

cha0t1c1
10-05-2004, 03:39 AM
I'd like to put a small comment on this movie. R U kidding me. does Marvel see the scripts or the cast possibilities. Guys and Girls, this is getting out of control. Nerds are not just horny kids with their penices on their minds and their comics in the hands. Nerds are the most intelligent and opinionated cliques. That's getting disgusting. I hoped it ended at Spiderman(1&2). I mean why don't they have writers like the ones on Blade(1&2), Or DareDevil, Or even The Hulk. Oh my god is this industry going bad. And I mean the movie scriptwriters industry.

H2
10-05-2004, 10:33 PM
Yup they do look bit young. The grey hair looks off...I imagined someone more like George Clooney for the role of Mr Fantastic, I dnt think there wud have been any easy way of creating the Thing whilst keeping everyone happy. What looks good on the pages of a comic or on a cartoon is always gonna be hard to recreate in a live action movie.

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