CGTalk - The Lost Artifact "Project"

sherban

08-10-2002, 10:30 PM

I'm not usually a big fan of vehicle models of any sort.

But then some cool design like this comes along :D
I like the mid-poly slightly cartoony feel it has.
I imagine gold-mad dwarves riding it like there's no tomorrow
I'd love to see it textured.

About the wheels sticking to the track - I think there are some expressions you could use that'll do it for you (I don't know what app you're using so I guess I can't be more specific) :shrug:

QuantumPixel

08-11-2002, 03:45 PM

Not little golden elves just the driver he is very harry and scruffy looking and will probably be chewing on a cigar. They are an underground civilization. Using Maya I will probably constrain to a curve and do path animation using lattices for the corners and any wiggles and jiggles it needs to look as realistic as I can make it under the style that it is being targeted.

QuantumPixel

08-12-2002, 04:49 AM

here is the main look for the diggers, who will be working in the gient cassum.

wgreenlee1

08-12-2002, 05:17 AM

What are you test rendering with?Maya or something?
Everything looks like the luminosty channels are cranked too high?

I love your modeling style though!
Great work on that end!

Slater

08-13-2002, 11:14 AM

Hey people I'm working on this short with BoyGoneMad here at CDIS. I will be doing any revisions needed on the models. I'm the main texture artist here, and we are both working on the rest of the production process for this short titled; THE LOST ARTIFACT.

It is a story set in the future in underground mines where one cave digger finds more than he bargained for. :D

Replies:

Aura - Our main focus for this project will be to "stick to the storyboards" so we can crank this project out. Wings might look cool but it wont happen here.

Kelly Schubert - :) Thats funny that you would mention that Kelly. The first shot actually has the mining train bust through a condemned tunnel wall!

Sherban - Thanx for the tips, we will look into the expressions for the wheels in Maya later on.

wgreenlee1 - All of the tests are in maya. Right now we are not too concerned with how the model is lit, these are only model shots.

Everyone - Thanx for the input and you can bet your booty you'll have some more updates soon kids!

:buttrock:

PANZER

08-13-2002, 01:42 PM

hey.i actually liked the design of the train...
looks rugged enough..

Wi_2

08-13-2002, 02:43 PM

I really like the train, nice detail :thumbsup:
great stuff

Slater

08-14-2002, 02:25 AM

Ok...We've both had lots of progress today.

I've done a color scheme for how I will my textures, so I've gone ahead and done a full material update with the general color of the certain parts. This is a crutial step to see if your textures will work with eachother or if they will be an eyesore to the viewer.

Tell me what you think. :D

Matthew has done some modelling work on the set for the second scene. He should have some update pics to show soon.

:buttrock:

lmc

08-14-2002, 02:35 AM

Good, i like the design of the train...are u going to send ur worl to challenge?! :applause: :wavey: :airguitar :bounce:

Slater

08-14-2002, 02:56 AM

From looking at the challenge description, it needs to be a "flying machine". The story we have right now is already layed out so perfectly that it might be a waste to change the plans rework the model. I'll talk to Mathew in a few minutes and see what he thinks.

But as for now we're going full steam ahead on this short.

Dirk_P_Ho

08-14-2002, 07:36 AM

colour scheme looks super :thumbsup:

MickLockwood

08-14-2002, 07:57 AM

Looks super,can't wait to see it aninmated, You seen the trains in that annimation from Siggraph, can't remember the name, the one with the little girl, toon-shaded.

Wi_2

08-14-2002, 10:28 AM

don'y like meshsmooth,
makes it look odd

all the sharp cut's got blown to bit's
:shrug:

QuantumPixel

08-23-2002, 05:04 AM

here is the main character reworked.

QuantumPixel

08-23-2002, 05:07 AM

we posted this just before the last big system crash. just thought I would poot it back up.

Slater

08-24-2002, 10:05 AM

Here's the first WIP of the miner getting textured.

I will post some more renders of the train texturing later on.

Slater

08-24-2002, 10:39 AM

Here's an up to date render of my progress on the train texturing. Everything is done with UV layouts, and multiple maps.

Slater

08-24-2002, 10:41 AM

oops, title is swapped on the train pic.

Kelly Schubert

08-27-2002, 09:42 PM

Post another render of the character. Different view. From this angle, his eye area looks stretched across his face. Everything else is looking awsome.

Slater

08-28-2002, 06:29 PM

Hey Kelly, here's another angle of the miner. Let me know what you think.

Slater

08-28-2002, 07:36 PM

Here's one of the latest shots of the bin at the back of the train. We're going for the look that its made out of junk parts, so I made it look rusty and grimey.

Anyone have any suggestions/ crits?

Kelly Schubert

08-28-2002, 11:27 PM

That render looks quite a bit better. I still think the eye area of the head is stretched, but not as much as I thought before. The wagon looks great. Maybe beat up the bars on the front and back a bit more. Maybe break one of em or something. No real complaints though. Looking great.

pterandon

08-29-2002, 02:52 AM

:drool:
I like the style, in that it's got a cartoony feel to it, but still very plausibly a real working device.

Nick Unden

08-29-2002, 06:52 AM

Good work guys keep it up!

(P.S. Someone needs to work on their spelling! ):shame:

Slater

08-29-2002, 07:36 AM

Kelly - Thanx I'll finish texturing the bars and stuff then see if it still needs to take a beating.

Pterandon - Glad you like the direction of the project.

Nick - Thanx, we'll keep up the posts too.

Blaze

09-01-2002, 12:31 AM

Yeah! It's finished!! Today I finished off texturing the train. What do you guys think??

My next mission will be to texture the first set.

Later people. :buttrock:

JFrench

09-01-2002, 01:23 AM

I think the color variations are a little too organized. It is all in obvious sections. I think it would look better if it were more varied.

QuantumPixel

09-04-2002, 04:04 AM

I have been working pretty hard on the sets for this project lately and have started to feel a little sluggish. But we are pushing on and will be ready for animation set up in 4 more weeks.

PureFire

09-04-2002, 04:22 AM

looks fantastic...cant wait to see a little reel..maybe?

nickpappas

09-04-2002, 08:53 AM

everything is looking great! my only crit is to vary the colors at the front of the train. maybe light grey metal plates or something, besides the plain brown.

-nick:twisted:

Nicool

09-04-2002, 11:56 AM

Verry very nice concept. And good 3d work!! Regards man!:thumbsup:

paconavarro

09-04-2002, 02:57 PM

Im with JFrench, there´s something that make´s the train look flat and CG, It could be the lighting. But the concept is great..

rage288

09-04-2002, 05:15 PM

nice!
got my attention!

nice modelling and texturing!
keep it up! :applause:

QuantumPixel

09-04-2002, 09:18 PM

Thanks every one we are having a lot of fun. Galen shure is pluggin away with texturing. Here is a shot of the driver for the train.

JFrench

09-04-2002, 09:49 PM

His legs look way too small for the rest of his body.

Wolfy

09-05-2002, 03:47 AM

Why would he have big legs? He spends all his time sitting down driving the train :)
But seriously, the driver model is cool, although I'm not sure about the fold/crease in his middle...

I agree with nickpappas on the textures for the engine, throw in a shiny(er) metal piece or some wooden slats or something just for some variation.

The wheels could probably use some randomization as well, this is a scrapped together piece of machinery and they have 12 identical and identically worn wheels.

BTW, I'm thinking of taking some courses at CDIS next year, what program did you guys take?

Rudity

09-05-2002, 05:49 AM

Hey guys i thought id post on ur thread today. :)
I mean its not like i work beside you and see every bit of progress or nothing. Or beat both you guys to death on the foos table. *points at matt*
hahah. Man i love this project. Seriosly. You guys look like ur having a blast.
I like the first character better than the driver though. It looks like you were in a hurry on the driver matt!! :p
textures are awesome. But i still think gems should be lighting the mine, and used as lights for the train.
Ur textures are ready for diffuse maps btw galen. Whenever your ready though.
Keep up the good work guys. Can't wait for the final piece.
See yeah on the foos table.
Squirrel Boy

James the slim

09-05-2002, 06:06 AM

I dig your modelling... awesome.

Slater

09-05-2002, 06:21 AM

Hey guys, thanx for all the replies. Matt and I have been hard at work on the sets and they are coming along nicely.

After reading the comments about the train textures I noticed things about it allot more clearly and definately plan to improve on certain areas. For now I will finish texturing the first set, then I can go back with a clear head and work on finishing off the train.

Here's a small picture of Set 1.

If you want to see a HIGH res version... go here -->

Set 1 High Res (http://www.cdis.org/~gslater/set1_wip.jpg)

facial

09-05-2002, 06:55 AM

So nice so for, keep going..........:applause: :applause:

Reo

09-05-2002, 07:01 AM

hey this is looking sexy......

I dig ....so when do I get to see an animation of the train and riders?????

well keep it up

REo

Dirk_P_Ho

09-05-2002, 07:53 AM

On the set, the hard line on the lower left looks sketchy, throw some more rox on there or something. using Rockgen at all???

:buttrock:RockGen:buttrock:

QuantumPixel

09-05-2002, 04:35 PM

sorry folks couldn't resist the Gi render I fixed the mouth a little so I thought I would show it of.

driver pic.

O and that hard line wont be seen at all in the shot any ways.

QuantumPixel

09-06-2002, 07:15 AM

If you whant to see set 1. go to www.boygonemad.com, Enter then hit the lost artifact link. this is my web site here you will find a bunch of old stuff that I was easaly able to poot up on the web.

or for direct link clik here

www.boygonemad.com/LAP%20page.htm (http://http://www.boygonemad.com/LAP%20page.htm)

what a grate day I took tonight off and got drunk played the gutar and then oops posted on cgtalk ha ha ha..

QuantumPixel

09-06-2002, 07:18 AM

you'll have to past the RL in the adress book, sorry!

Reo

09-06-2002, 09:15 AM

Slacker.... : )

I should bring over my bass.

Reo

Slater

09-10-2002, 09:39 PM

So here's the latest...Set 1, 2, 3 are finished texturing. So here's one of the latest renders of set 3.

I've also included a link to an animation test of the train engine.

Engine Playblast (http://www.cdis.org/~gslater/engine_blast.avi) (2.7 mb AVI file)

Enjoy!

Slater

09-15-2002, 08:44 PM

OK, so I got some work done on the miner recently. Here's what he looks like. Critiques please. :)

QuantumPixel

09-25-2002, 08:40 PM

here is a pose that did as a test a couple of days ago.www.boygoneamd.com

QuantumPixel

09-25-2002, 08:43 PM

a little closer

QuantumPixel

09-25-2002, 09:31 PM

on line portfolio

www.boygonemad.com

Slater

10-13-2002, 07:58 AM

Ok, here's the latest from me. I just finished texturing the digger and he's starting to look pretty cool.

As for Matt and I, were both back at school taking lots of classes so updates may be few and far between.

Anyways, give me some feedback on this character, I'd really appreciate it!!!!:thumbsup:

Slater

10-13-2002, 07:35 PM

another angle.

Slater

10-14-2002, 06:53 PM

...and here are his steel toe'd boots.

Dirk_P_Ho

10-14-2002, 07:29 PM

YAY! an update finally :P

Cool textures, i like the torn boot detail quit a bit.

Nice face texture, and the skin.

Only crit maybe that he's a a bit symetrical, could go around and toss some Verts around. But then, i might be wrong, I only notice it in the boot holes. :)

Slater

10-14-2002, 08:59 PM

Yup, you got it. The boots were identical. Here's what they look like now.

Thanx for the crit. :)

Dirk_P_Ho

10-14-2002, 11:06 PM

cool, cant wait to see more

Slater

10-15-2002, 05:03 AM

OK! Here's some more!!

Just finished rendering a rotation, and its in DivX so file size is only 1.6 MB!

Check it out here: Rotation.avi (http://www.cdis.org/~gslater/rotation.avi)

Slater

10-16-2002, 04:40 AM

Portrait Lighting Picture:

QuantumPixel

10-16-2002, 04:49 AM

this is fun I can't wait to start animation. just a little further

www.boygonemad.com

Slater

11-10-2002, 06:41 PM

Heehee...I love this guy!!

Here's a pic of the finished driver of the train.

Slater

01-04-2003, 08:29 AM

heres some stuff ive cranked out recently...lighting and texturing for the 3 final sets!

(these are general lights and not shot specific yet.)

ENJOY!

:beer:

Slater

01-04-2003, 08:31 AM

Slater

01-04-2003, 08:32 AM

and another...

kotter

01-04-2003, 10:22 AM

hope it's not too late for critique about the digger :p

In the last update where you can see his teeth they seem too white and perfect :hmm:

I want to see a big ugly smile from him (maybe knock out a few teeth) :surprised :wip:

Slater

01-04-2003, 06:15 PM

yup, i might add some stains on his teeth, but i wont knock any out...thanx for the crit

AJE

01-09-2003, 02:13 AM

Wow, cool... good work...

I'm gonna watch this thread...

Nick Unden

01-09-2003, 05:49 AM

Hey Guys! Hows it going!!

WOW! Looking good guys you definately have come a long way, its looking really good. When will I get a chance to see some animation!:scream:

How is everything at CDIS? Say hi to everyone, and watch out I'm going to come in one day and kick all your asses a fooze!! :cool:

Anyways nice work, keep it up!! :beer:

Rudity

01-09-2003, 07:05 AM

Nick you know I own the foos table.

Nice to see yeah again. :p

Grats on the job.

Cool shit Matt and Galen.
I love the shot of the open Mine. :thumbsup:

Later
Rudity

Nick Unden

01-10-2003, 04:06 AM

No way man! Matt tell him! You know I rule @ fooze! :shame:

Slater

01-14-2003, 07:35 PM

Hehe... I think we might need to have a little fooze tourney one day!?

How goes the new job Nick? When you coming to CDIS?

Me and Matt are working on the animatic right now, so you can expect some animation tests soon!

:D

Later people.

QuantumPixel

01-14-2003, 10:07 PM

I geuss I don't post all the time becouse I have a problem with my spelling.

hey nick I am not sure who owns the foose table any more. but what I do know is you may find your self tredding whater even with me as your aponent.

3d is so cool.

hows the job, I bet its great you must be pritty skilled from working around indistry Vets all day.

I am so down for a foose Turnament. but first we must get some animation tests and animatic on line.

so when are you gong to come back to CDIS and see whats going on. you better do it soon or elts everyone will be gone, semester ends at the end of the month.

well back to work I will post again soon

QuantumPixel

01-15-2003, 09:01 AM

The LostArtifact is alive and Kikking. over the Last Few weeks things have rilly started to come together. Animatic, Animation Tests, New Character Riggs for different Sceens and lots more

The set up is compleet Its time to geat reved up I am rilly leaning towards taking a dry run and then starting Over Next semester(just the animation) for two reasons. if that was the path we choose to take then it would deffinitly come easer the second time increesing Quality and Skills and Hey its always cool to find things that don't work before the plain stalls and Drops 15 000 feet strait out of the sky.

some New Qualitys Acuring in THe project. through some great Critisism from Scot, the Artifact has taken a new spin. and what A a spin it has Taken from being a wonderfull Visual but lifless Storyless Short Film Aimed for a Station Identification it is now a story inriched emotionaly Event driven Film wich is absolutly Awsome. I am super happy with the slite chainges that we have just made. and Evean better a new Character for me to modle Sweet.