CGTalk - Above & Beyond - Vehicle & Pilot

hypercube

08-09-2002, 09:35 PM

:scream: BAM! :surprised

Looks fantastic..the low contrast linework is making me squint a bit too much, but looks like lots of great stuff in there..I love the idea of it being so massively overbuilt and gigantic for just one passenger, too..very mad science..

Look forward to seeing the whole thing..at your normal rate, you should be done with it by tomorrow, right? :D In 4 weeks you could have the entire sears catalog built in there..

tubby

08-09-2002, 09:43 PM

hey apt pupil!! man, one great idea after another. that is a really exciting concept sketch. exciting because is a huge task for modelling, and because we all know you have the talent to make it better than the sketch. looking forward to watching your work.:)

mebamonster

08-09-2002, 09:44 PM

I am glad to see you entering this challenge! It's always a pleasure to watch your work. Great detail as always....I agree with tubby that you have the talent to bring this sketch to life. I look forward to seeing more!

MikaelPersson

08-10-2002, 01:02 AM

Crazy Guy! Four weeks this time, that means you will model double the amount? Still overtime I guess.

I hope you will be able to pull it off.

Roach[MXF]

08-13-2002, 05:36 AM

Update!! I know that something that is gonna blow all the other entries out of the skies is brewing.. UPDATE UPDATE!! It inspires me to work!! hehe :thumbsup: -Jeremy-

Apt Pupil

08-13-2002, 08:32 AM

Acccckkk, I was hoping no one would post a reply before I had the chance to get started here again. I am currently on a "Temporary leave of Absence" :p I joined another contest and since I pretty much know what I was doing here, I wanted to lock down my concept there first.

The good news is, I will be finished with the concept for that contest tomorrow, so I can resume this contest again soon:)

Roach --> :p thanks, and. . . patience heheheh

Micheal P. --> yes, I know, entering another contest at the same time is not one of my brightest ideas:p

mebamonster --> Thanks man, I hope I don't disappoint.

Tubby --> Hey there, glad to hear form you again. Are you entering this one? I haven't been keeping track of the entries lately, but I don't think I saw your name. Otherwise, thanks buddy.

Hypercube --> darn it, your sears catalog comment was a good one LOL hehehe. . . thanks:)

tubby

08-13-2002, 08:55 AM

hows it going Apt Pupil, you're doing multiple contests at once, your mad! hey im not sure what im gonna do yet. I would love to enter this one with some familiar comrads like yourself. but like the last challenge, i have a concept, started modeling it in WIP, and will probably post it here soon. the problem is that i'm sure that i should follow the rules by posting my concept, and then my progress, and the way i end up posting models started in WIP makes it look as if i just made up an idea after i modelled them. so , in short, maybe. hey what is the other contest your entering, i want to check out your challenge there!

espaki

08-13-2002, 09:17 AM

Have to post, but can only offer more of the same. If you pull this one off with all that detail, its over for the rest of us. I will be keeping a close eye on this...you'd better not dissapoint!!:D

-Nate

Apt Pupil

08-17-2002, 05:58 AM

Well, I finished the cockpit. This will certainly be a fun creation to model. I like a challenge:p

http://www.magicswithin.com/artwork/contests/04cockpit.jpg

Otherwise, I am still working on the concept. I want to be able to model the thing without having to think or use any brain functions.

As for responses, I already replied, but it all got erased:cry:

Apt Pupil

08-17-2002, 06:24 AM

Oh ya, here are just a few items I drew to help me have an easier time modeling.

http://www.magicswithin.com/artwork/contests/04items.jpg

Apt Pupil

08-17-2002, 08:07 AM

Finished the tool shed. This is the main starting place for the Chemical reactor that fuels the ship.

By mixing detergents, a highly . . . energetic (explosive) substance is first formed here that then must pass through various areas to gain the necessary properties to fuel the ship. Basically, from the cauldrons, it then passes through the alchemy lab, the ovens, and then the microwaves.

http://www.magicswithin.com/artwork/contests/04shed.jpg

mebamonster

08-17-2002, 08:23 AM

Man, I love it! I am thoroughly impressed with your artwork and ambition. I can't believe you are doing two simultaneous contests both with such impressive detail. I am here rooting for ya! I wanna see some 3d work as soon as you have time. Other than that, looking awesome!

vitor

08-17-2002, 04:21 PM

Hey Apt pupil, it looks great ( as usual :bounce: ), I can't wait to see it in 3D!!

fellah

08-17-2002, 04:35 PM

this is really fantastic! _amazing_ drawing skills, the style reminds me alot of disney(big compliment! :) )
hope your 3d skills are just as good,

keep it up :)

Hexodam

08-17-2002, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Apt Pupil
Oh ya, here are just a few items I drew to help me have an easier time modeling.

http://www.magicswithin.com/artwork/contests/04items.jpg
do i se an Antec computer case :) I like
http://www.antec-inc.com/en_sohoser.html

I'll be watching this thread

Virtuoso

08-17-2002, 10:53 PM

Very nice concept Apt pupil, very nice................

Being an architect I thought your last challenge project was top notch, one of the elite for that challenge which had a large amount of great art. I really loved your last project, and got more out of it than most even, due to being a architect.......

This new challenge too looks to be very promising for you. The whole idea you have as of now looks to be very exciting, I am looking forward to seeing you bring it to it's full glory in 3D............Cheers to you and your courage and ambition........I am also a "FREAK" when it comes to details..........Intricate as can be I always say.............I'll be posting my work of blood and sweat real soon as well.............Here's to you and your wonderful idea(s)..................:thumbsup: :beer: :)

tascitus

08-18-2002, 01:18 AM

the drawings are wonderful, very expresive. i cant wait to see this finished.:bounce: :bounce:

Baal

08-18-2002, 03:06 AM

Bigger is better! :buttrock:

Let's show us some modeling! If you make it through, that thing will be insane and filled with details! Good luck for the modelling and keep us updated!

Ninja Scroll

08-18-2002, 03:25 AM

Models, models.... :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

freemind77

08-18-2002, 08:14 AM

Niceeeee sketches , waiting for your models !:bounce:

Apt Pupil

08-18-2002, 12:35 PM

Acccckkk, this one took my whole Saturday:cry: but it's finished. Now all I have left is the back view and character sheet:) So, with any luck, I will be able to start modeling . . . . . . Wednesday heheheh

http://www.magicswithin.com/artwork/contests/04front.jpg

Freemind77, Ninja Scroll and Baal --> Patience my friends, if I were to start modeling now, it would be suicide. I must finish the planning phase before I commence.

tascitus --> Thanks. I try to make it as detailed as possible so I can shut off my brain for the modeling heheheh

Virtuoso --> :blush: Thanks man. Coming from an architect, I am really flatered. My drawings aren't entirely accurate, and there are many proportional as well as balance issues, but it should suffice (I will do the corrections with the model). Otherwise, what are you sitting on the side lines for, jump in, the water is great hehehe. But your right, it does take alot of blood and sweat to create these things. I left my personal life at the door when these contests (I am in two) started. But, the benifit is, they will make good portfolio pieces for when I search for work. . . finally :)

Hexodam --> heheheh, yes, I have an antec case. They are my favourite cases too.

fellah --> "My 3d skills good" . . . no, not really, but I am persistant heheheh

Vitor --> IS THAT YOU, oh my god!! What are you doing sneaking up on me like that. You should be entering these contests as well. Your as persistant as I am heheheh. It's nice to see you again. I hope I will see you tackle one of these contests in the future.

mebamonster --> Thanks *blush* hopefully, I will be able to start modeling on Wednesday. I originally wanted to finish the 2d section first, but . . . I guess to be safe, I had better do them simultaneously in case one goes wrong, I can dump the infected limb heheheh (but I don't forsee that happening)

Thanks guys for the encouragement, I will start modeling. . . . . . . soon.

erilaz

08-18-2002, 12:57 PM

If you manage to pull this beast of a challenge off, I will bow down to you as a modelling god!:eek:

The detail in this is brilliant. Utterly stunning!:bounce:

vitor

08-18-2002, 09:34 PM

Hi Apt pupil, nice to see you too. I will not enter in one of these contests because I think that no one will vote for me, and stop saying that you aren't good in 3D, I saw your entry in the last contest, that one of the boat and the creature and it is awesome, one of the best scene that I ever seen. :bounce:

mebamonster

08-18-2002, 10:35 PM

You are a wise and dilligent man to do all of that concepting first. The thought put into it really shows in your models (as can be seen in your previous challenge). But gosh darn it, I am sitting here biting my nails in nervous anticipation...must-start-modeling soon! Truely, this is no attempt to pressure you into modeling before you're ready, but a serious concern for the health of my ever-shortening nails.

gidgit

08-19-2002, 01:56 AM

Holy moly Apt, I have just tuned into this challenge forum but recently and I am sure glad I did... out of this world... I now find myself with about a bazillion questions for ya...

1) how long have you been modeling?
2) how old are you ( approx will do )
3) what kind of setup do you have
4) have you ever had any offers from any of the big studios
5) how do you do this incredible work so fast like

ah man, there's more but I will spare you...haha... it's just, from reading all of the other reply's re the last challenge along with this one I gather that there are many of us that are very curious as to.... back to a bazzilion questions hehe

thanx in advance, and happy modeling... I like so many others can hardly wait to see this contraption come to life... unreal :D

artchick

08-19-2002, 09:17 PM

Hey there!:beer:

Final sketch looks GREAT! Sleep? We don't need no stinkin' SLEEP!

tascitus

08-19-2002, 10:54 PM

thats sketch is inspiring. lets see some polys!

mebamonster

08-21-2002, 03:49 PM

Waiting anxiously for an update! Go! Go! Go!:wip:

Apt Pupil

08-23-2002, 08:12 AM

Ok . . . I got busy for a while there:blush: but I resumed my work here again:)

The Back View

Fetus23

08-23-2002, 08:18 AM

Oh ya :thumbsup: ...thats some really great work. I have no crits. Just waiting for the 3d...or more sketches either one will be fine :).

fetus

Apt Pupil

08-23-2002, 08:41 AM

Hey there Fetus23, you got in between my posts:p I was going to answer peoples questions after this final picture.

Final picture, The Character. So now once again. . . it's time to . . . Sacrifice my body!!!! It's MODELING TIME!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

mebamonster

08-23-2002, 08:50 AM

I am absolutely impressed! I thought you were doing just the contraption and I was stressing for you. Now I see you are ALSO doing a character! ack! Not to mention that other challenge you are doing. You are a brave, brave man. I have no crits other than the fact that my nail biting has elevated to a whole new level in anticipation. you need to post a model sooooooon!

Apt Pupil

08-23-2002, 09:36 AM

Mebamonster --> Oh boy, I had better get started, I am worried for your hand and soon. . . your arm heheheh. Thanks for the encouragement. It's always nice hearing from you :)

Fetus23 --> Thanks. There will be no more sketches here (just one final illustration of everything combined for my 2d entry *smiles*). I'll start modeling A.S.A.P

tascitus --> Polys are on there way heheheh

Artchick --> Sleep, what's that? I only know of trances that take place . . . in front of the computer.

vitor --> :blush: Thanks.

HellRender --> Oh ya *slurp*, artists love to personalize there equipment, and the antec cases are the best for the job hehehehe. I have a black computer setup and the only thing that is not black on my computer is my annoying printer *sob*

gidgit --> Accckk, you got questions, ok, I'll try and answer them:)

1) How long have you been modeling?
Oh boy, that's a tough one. I have been modeling seriously now for 7 month, and before that, I learned how to model two years ago. However, I want to be a concept designer as much as a modeler, so I am working on both skills at the same time.

2) How old are you? ( approx will do )
Well, this is a personal question and as such, I can only answer approximatly. I am above 25 but below 27

3) What kind of setup do you have?
Hmmm, let's see. A dual 1.4 ghz athlon computer, with 512 ddr ram, Geforce 3Ti, 9 Gig Scsi 160 HD at 10k RPM (main Drive), 60 gig at 7200 rpm HD (backup), CD writer (Backup of Backup:) [yes, I am paranoid] )and a 5x7 wacom tablet.

4) Have you ever had any offers from any of the big studios?
Hmmmm, this is a tough one to answer. The thing is, I am not sure, but people think I am employed for some reason. The fact is, I have never been employed for an artistic position (I haven't manually started searching yet). hhmmmm. . . I should probably write I am for hire in my posts signature. Maybe once this contest is over, we will see.

5) How do you do this incredible work so fast like?
Like I told someone else, once the concept reference sheets are created, there is really no effort required to model it. A good sketch turns around into a quick model.

Well, I hope these answers were good enough. If you or anyone should have any more questions about my art, work methods or anything else, don't be afraid to ask.

:beer:

Virtuoso

08-23-2002, 12:43 PM

Concept as I said earlier is astounding. It's a very ambitious undertaking, but I know in very good hands. The character too looks to have a very interesting and appealing look, I like him very much, bravo on the concepts, now stop reading my post and get to 3D land Apt............. :thumbsup: :beer: :)

adr

08-23-2002, 04:54 PM

yeah man im agree with virtuoso

3d gogogo 3d gogogo

Apt Pupil

08-24-2002, 09:11 AM

Ok, here we go, an actual model. . . finally heheheh :wip: :wip: :wip:

I more or less finished the small scene, I will have to modify it later when the ship is in.

Virtuoso --> ok ok, I am modeling now:p

Apt Pupil

08-24-2002, 09:17 AM

uhhmmm, the bad news is, I have to stop modeling temporarily. Switching contests once again and I have to work on my 2d entry as well. I'll restart on Monday.

:shrug: :thumbsup:

mebamonster

08-24-2002, 10:18 AM

Great start on your model (as expected)! Absolutely outstanding!!! Simply seeing the 3d portion started has eased my mind. I look forward to your future posts. In the meantime, I'll have to hop over and check out that other challenge you have going. Go Apt Go!:wip: :wip: :wip:

tubby

08-24-2002, 10:20 AM

hey apt that's a really awesome start on your modelling. you got a good eye for what your doing , i can't even imagine the quality of work you would produce if you had more time.well, i hope you finish this because its a favorite!

Zardoz

08-24-2002, 11:29 AM

First you knock us out with your sketches, and then u make that beautiful render...go away from this challenge!! give the rest of us a chance!

very good work!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Zardoz

08-24-2002, 11:38 AM

i'm sorry to post twice in a row but only now i've seen your entire thread...well...erhm...ARE YOU CRAZY???!!! What do you want to do?! Conquer the world??!!

Don't you sleep?? How the hell are u going to make all that stuff???

I can only say that your concept and drwaing skills are probably the best I've seen around here, that u should also enter the 2d challenge, and that I REALLY, REALLY hope that u can do that megalomaniac thing in 3D.

AWESOME!
:bounce: :bounce:

CactusJack

08-27-2002, 05:42 AM

I'm gassed just looking at your 2D...

If your 3D is just as good...I think I'll quit my job and start work in my son's cafeteria sloppin food at lunch time...

Hair net and all...

You scare me :eek: , but I'm waiting anxiously to see more...

Definitely Inspiring...

...

...

...

:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

Apt Pupil

08-27-2002, 07:27 AM

mebamonster --> Arghhh, don't bother checking my other contest, I got absolutly no work done on it. I went out on sunday. However, I did manage to get some work done on my 2d entry here. I am almost finished (probably finished by tomorow) :)

tubby --> Thanks:) I should have something finished in 2 weeks *gulp*

Zardos --> Actually, I did enter the 2d challenge as well;) I wanted to refamiliarize myself with . . . colors (These days, I don't do this very often anymore).

CactusJack --> :blush: Thanks

It's going to be awhile before I post an update, I want to finish this darn 2d challenge first. Almost there though . . . .

CactusJack

08-27-2002, 08:10 AM

Just checked out your Beast of Burden...shocked that i didn't see it before...

OMG!!!

You do very awsome work my friend!!!

:applause:

mebamonster

08-27-2002, 08:35 AM

Looking forward to an update!:bounce: :wip: :wip: :bounce:

WiltedEnds

08-27-2002, 09:09 AM

hey pupil...GREAT render..im wondering how you got the black and white..did you use a script or did you doctor it in photoshop?

Apt Pupil

08-27-2002, 09:22 AM

WiltedEnds --> How I got the tones, well, my original render is just a plain black and white image. There are no colored textures, I just use an assortment of greys to add to the dynamics and balance of the pic. :shrug: I then stuff it into photoshop to turn it brown (my favourite color heheheh) and then I add the noise (something I will probably not have in my final render). (I hope that answered your question, otherwise, I also used a fog to depict the distance)

Thanks guys for the encrouragement, I'll start soon, I am soooo close to finishing my 2d'er:)

DimitrisLiatsos

08-27-2002, 11:03 AM

:thumbsup: Incredible drawing...if u don't mind me saying...I WOULD LOVE TO MODEL THIS :bounce: Try to find the time to model it and if it comes to take more time than this challenge..don't mind . Again work on it ...i think it would come to be an incredible model when it finishes ....

:beer:

gidgit

08-28-2002, 08:36 AM

Hi apt... first off, thanx for taking the time to answer the questions I had posted... wow, it is hard to believe that you are not a work'n stiff... un freak'n real... ah, your not bad...hahahahaha (humor)

holy moly... I am taking too much time with the babble here... get back to modeling would ya... I don't think I am alone in waiting for your next posting.... thanx eh... :D

Apt Pupil

08-29-2002, 02:14 PM

Ok, I started modeling again:) I am more or less finished my 2d entry, so I can concentrate on this model now for the next week and a half. It's not much so far, but . . . it's coming along.

As for the lights and harsh shadows, well, I have no time to experiment with lights, hence I won't have a good setup until the very end. sorry :blush: Otherwise, I am going to try and tackle the hard parts of this model first, so I should be finished with the cockpit soon, and then I am going to move on to the character. With those two finished, the rest should be easy (except for maybe the car [what was I thinking when I stuffed that in there, Doh!)

Gidgit --> No problem. Now that my concentration is on this section of the contest, I should have more frequent updates:)

DimitrisLiatsos --> Thanks, I'm glad you like it so far. It's not much now, but with some hard work and sleepless nights, I should have something by next week's friday deadline. We shall see . . .

DimitrisLiatsos

08-29-2002, 03:37 PM

:bounce: Oh my God...i think the level of detail of this baby will be skyhigh!!!!

Clanger

08-29-2002, 03:59 PM

I think without doubt this is the most eagerly awaited model. Don't see how your going to pull it all off in the time but I so hope I'm wrong. It's about time I changed my wallpaper, so a screen proportion high res render at the end would be magic.

tuba3d

08-29-2002, 04:01 PM

OH,... you MUST finish this excelent work... after hipnotyzed us:eek:

I cannot even imagine the final result..:hmm:

Please, keep going.!!!!

CactusJack

08-29-2002, 04:37 PM

Absolutely breath-taking....hope you are able to get it finished as well...:bounce:

DimitrisLiatsos

08-29-2002, 11:04 PM

:bounce:
Yeah..a high res wallpaper would be nice!!!

mebamonster

08-29-2002, 11:19 PM

YAY!!!! So glad to see you modeling again! I love your details and am always amazed at your accuracy of execution. I wish I had some crits for you...but it's coming along beautifully!! Looking forward to your next update!!
GO apt GO!:wip: :wip: :wip:

Apt Pupil

08-30-2002, 02:31 AM

Wierd, I am having trouble uploading the file, so I am now using my site. Here we go. . .

Almost finished the Cockpit:)

:wip: :wip: :wip:

http://www.magicswithin.com/extras/Show09.jpg

Apt Pupil

08-30-2002, 02:33 AM

As for what the model looks like . . .

Apt Pupil

08-30-2002, 02:40 AM

Hey, thanks guys for the support, I will be sure to create a high resolution picture in the end if it turns out ok:)

I should be starting the character sometime tonight. I am a little bit worried about him (time wise), but, it should be ok.

I will have more updates soon (probably tomorow) :)

Thanks again:wavey:

:wip: :wip:

dmcgrath

08-30-2002, 06:52 AM

Holy CARP!!!!
Thats phenomenal, man. I am humbled in your presence.
Totally cool already. You work too hard here, but Im not going to tell you to stop.

*standing in salute*

:wip:

-dan

CactusJack

08-31-2002, 05:52 AM

*Cactus Jack stands aside and lets Apt Pupil use the restroom first* :drool:

road

08-31-2002, 08:05 AM

I don't know how i missed this thread but DAMN!!!
This is amazing...
Your 2D work is amazing!

You definately have the ability to do 2D and 3D really well.....
it's funny cause alot of times it's one or the other.....

You should definately be getting paid for your skills....!!

great job can't wait to see more!!

Apt Pupil

08-31-2002, 10:14 AM

hmmm, all my pretty posts, gone :cry: Oh well, smoke em if you got em.. . . :)

Nothing new here, still working on the character, but here is just a small update after m@'s suggestion of using refractions. M@, is this what you meant??

Otherwise, thanks guys:love:

Apt Pupil

08-31-2002, 10:49 AM

Well, I mentioned the boy, well here he is after one day. All I can say is :argh: shoes are tough!!! Otherwise, there is still alot of work to be done on him, but I should be finished with him today (saturday).

I only wish I had time to give him a pet dog, but. . . I had better not:sad:

alben

08-31-2002, 10:54 AM

this kid looks great apt pupil... keep up the good work... i wish i could produce the same quality stuff as you. Once again great work!!!!

fellah

08-31-2002, 11:05 AM

wow, the kid is almost done already. good and fast work for one day there!
I hope you're going to make some details on him.. the "holes" in the "pilotGlasses side things" will add alot if modeled as well as more details in the ear(not much but alittle thing there is missing, check my cartoon characters at my site, hinhin :) )
and alot of other things.. but for one day, really good!

take care
// fellah

MikaelPersson

08-31-2002, 11:47 AM

I will not retype my last post (here). But that boy is looking real good for just one day of work. I am still amazed by your speed.

08-31-2002, 12:26 PM

The boy looks great!
so you see the difference between reflect and refract?
I said you're not obliged to use reflection on your glass if it will take much memory; althought reflection don't take much. Some faloff reflect with fresnel should look good.
Raytraced refraction are pretty slow, so I would recommed you to use the thin wall refraction; is it what you used on the image? it looks quite good.

mebamonster

08-31-2002, 09:30 PM

Great work! Your models are coming along wonderfully! Keep it coming!

Virtuoso

08-31-2002, 11:07 PM

I am very excited to see this flying behemoth in it's finished glory................As always you are showing alot of ambition and with it great talent, cheers to you Apt pupil, keep up with all you are doing, it is a real joy to see it all come together.............:beer: :)

NowhereMan

08-31-2002, 11:39 PM

Yeah

Thats da man........you rock again!!!!!!:beer:

Your talent amazes and frightens me again,... are you unemployed yet???? I hope u are not...

keep posting!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Apt Pupil

09-01-2002, 07:12 AM

Ok, I fixed, refined and added many new features:) Thanks Fellah for the kick in the right direction for the ears (I used your little girl cartoon character from your sight as reference. Was this the one you were talking about?) Otherwise, I gave gave him some bikers gloves, buckles, a jacket zipper, a watch, fixed his eyes, banished his back hair strands, and I corrected a few proportion issues. However, I will still go through one more phase of refinement once I have skinned him for textures (bump maps).

Note, currently, there are some duplicates, Zipper, mask buckle, and watch that appear on both sides, I will banish this once the bumps have been applied. For what you are looking at is a mirror image of half the character. I haven't yet merged the two halves. Soon. . . :)

Apt Pupil

09-01-2002, 07:30 AM

NowhereMan --> About employment, well, once this contest is over, I have been band from entering another one by friends and family until I get off my butt and look for employment. So, if you see me in the next contest, I'm employed hehehehe

Virtuoso --> Hey there Virtuoso, thanks :blush: This character is taking some hefty time, but, I should be faster with the architecture. Objects are alot easier than characters (In theory of course heheh [I am hoping])

mebamonster --> Thanks Meb:)

m@. --> Yup, I used the thin wall refraction as well as a raytraced reflection. In the final render, I am going to make the whole top of the ship invisible to reflections/refractions, that should speed up the rendering (in theory). Thanks again, your advice for both this entry and my 2d have been invaluable.

Mikael P. --> Thanks Mikael P. I just hope I am fast enough to finish it to how I envision it. We shall see. . .

fellah --> Thanks for the ears again, however, as for the top glasses, I will sharpen them (increase the edges creases) in the end once I refine it for the last time. Otherwise, if you notice anything else that is wierd, certainly do give me a holler, your advice is very, very welcome :)

09-01-2002, 10:02 AM

boy coming nicely.. I'm glad I could help you :) hope you find job!

erilaz

09-01-2002, 12:27 PM

Everytime I see your stuff, I keep hoping that one day I'll be at least almost as good as you!:D

This stuff is great. Beautiful actualisation of the sketches so far!:thumbsup:

MikaelPersson

09-01-2002, 02:34 PM

A thought. Those glasses he has right now makes him look kind of cool. I´ve always gone for the cliché with boy geniuses being nerdy. Maybe you should change them inte one of those old really huge glasses from the 70-80´s. That would turn him into a proper nerd.

tuba3d

09-01-2002, 02:52 PM

Fabulous... :thumbsup:

Let me say two things that are a little strange to me, one is the ear, I think that is too narrow on the end, and the second is the tape that close his hat, it seems to be entering in his body...

But, these things are just a little strange, i love your concept and model.... Keep your good work. ;)

Apt Pupil

09-01-2002, 05:05 PM

:argh: oh oh, I haven't finished him yet :cry: I just started texturing him. OH boy, hopefully, I will finish him tonight (i.e, have him seated comfortably in his seat on his ship). I still haven't merged/welded the two halves properly together yet, hence, there are some visible seems. As for things sticking in and out of his clothing, I will correct that in the final seated pose^_^

It's not much of an update, sorry :blush:

Otherwise:

Mikael P. --> I am in total agreement with your suggestion for the glasses. I really appriciate it, I'll definately change it . . .

tuba3d --> Hey thanks, ya, that ear does seem a bit strange, I will fix it. As for the goggle's strap, I am going to correct that in the final seated pose. Thanks again though, your advice was very much appriciated. If you should notice anything else that might seem funny looking, don't hesitate to tell me, I am always listening:)

erilaz --> Thanks . . .:blush:

Well, I am off to bed, I tried to finish it, but . . .*darn it* and I wanted to go out today *darn it*

Rot

09-01-2002, 05:22 PM

Ok, I'm sure: you aren't human !

:bowdown:

Wiro

09-01-2002, 05:25 PM

Holy sh... you're fast! When I saw the first sketch I thought there is no way you'll get that done in time, but now... :D

Hope to see you finish it. Only a week left now! Looking very nice!

Wiro

mebamonster

09-01-2002, 10:07 PM

You are a speed demon! Man, it's coming along beautifully! One suggestion though...you may want to make the pencil shaft more hexagonal rather than smooth and round like it is now. Other than that, looking awesome!! Keep it up! More! I want to see more!:wip: :wip: :wip: :wip: :wip:

Mr D

09-02-2002, 12:34 AM

:bounce: :buttrock: more, yes MORE :bounce: :buttrock:

Apt Pupil

09-03-2002, 12:21 AM

hmm, just a small update, I finished the character, and I put him into the scene, he seems quite at home now:) I will finish fine tuning him later, for now I must finish the rest of the ship. (I also had to add a few more details to the cockpit, since I might create a few close up for my character entry) (and note, later, I will make that joystick bigger so that you can see what 'his' right hand thumb is about to press)

No time to talk, must :wip: :wip: :wip:

But thanks guys for the encouragement. I'll make more renders of my continued progress with the ship as I go.

(Wiro: I seem to get that alot, people see my sketches, and they never come back, doh!!)

DimitrisLiatsos

09-03-2002, 09:16 AM

:beer: Ha ha your character really has this style and expression of a little demonic kid who is going to destroy everything...i really like your style...only thing is ,just to me, i think u should soften the light a little bit just to make the pic more sweet!!!:wavey:

erilaz

09-03-2002, 10:10 AM

Yarg!:bounce:
Stunning stuff. The lighting is really foreboding.
Do you work directly by eye from your sketches, or do you reference them in your viewports?

vitor

09-03-2002, 11:17 AM

Hey apt, it looks great. :bounce:

CactusJack

09-03-2002, 05:11 PM

freakily amazing :applause:

fellah

09-03-2002, 06:00 PM

I love this piece! I hope your going with the first render style you had going(the grainy one on the house) for the final. that one was very nice!

btw, checked out your site, very neat stuff there! that "Seasons" pic, omg! I love it!
btw, are you born in sweden? your name sounds swedish :rolleyes:

anyway,
take care and.. work, work, work :wip:
// fellah

mebamonster

09-04-2002, 03:08 AM

This is coming along beautifully! I just hope you have enough time to finish this! But enough chat form me....Work! Work! Work!:arteest: :wip: :arteest:

Apt Pupil

09-05-2002, 07:40 AM

Sorry guys for the lack of updates, This is proving to be quite alot of work (as expected, loving every minute of it:) ), But things are shaping up well. A good portion of my time went to this stupid %#$&^*%^ car (what was I thinking). Anyways, I'll show more tomorow.

Fellah --> I am not entirely sure how I am going to render my final piece, but I know it's most likely going to be brown (perhaps). As for the noise, I am not sure on that either. We will see. And yes, my last name is swedish, but no to born there. Unfortuanatly, I never learned the langauge except for the few occasional bad words my mother would scream hehehe. Hey, and thanks for visiting my site:)

vitor --> Are you still here heheeh :wavey:

DimitrisLiatsos --> hehehe, thanks. I haven't worked yet on his expression, but already you know the basis for what I am aiming for:p As for the light, I never even try until the end. To much time. I should be able to pull off something better in the end. Thanks

Well, I have to get back to work work work, This is going to be a close one. . .

Apt Pupil

09-05-2002, 07:54 AM

Oops, sorry erilaz, I missed your question there. No, I don't generally need to reference my pics in my viewports, but I do keep them beside me, and all I can say is, if I am not looking at the screen, I am looking at my tech sheets. This wouldn't have been possible to model so fast without the thorough plan:) Now. . . we shall see if it works . . .

:wip: :wip: :wip: :wavey:

Nikodemus

09-05-2002, 07:55 AM

:wip: cheers Apt P on ! :wip:
"Go Go Go" :scream:
lookin' niiice! *wish i coulda entered this challenge but no time no time!*

oh yeah Apt Pupil.. have you seen the new animated movie coming out that is Treasure Planet based on treasure island sorta... and features flying ships similar to the one you made for the last challenge? if not you should check it out, think you would enjoy the look of it :beer:

Apt Pupil

09-05-2002, 12:15 PM

Nikodemus --> hehehe, I already watched the trailer repeatedly .. . . . while I made my ship.

:wip: :wip: :wip:

This is going to be a close one .. .

erilaz

09-05-2002, 12:40 PM

Hmmm.... nice use of spring primitives!:D (If you actually modelled all of it by hand I will gasp repeatedly).

:thumbsup:

09-05-2002, 02:04 PM

hope you'll have time to finish!

Nikodemus

09-05-2002, 02:26 PM

:cool: i just saw that ship trailer about a week ago ... guess im a little busy or something :D

but trust me... i will be participating in the next challenge.. ive already cleared the time, woohoo

Apt Pupil

09-05-2002, 11:45 PM

I finished the turbines (well . . . yesterday, but who's keeping track:p). Things are coming along nicely otherwise. I am still trying to create as much details as time will permit. It should be something . . . quite interesting in the end.

This is going to be a cloooossseee one. Must :wip: :wip: :wip:

Erilaz --> I am not fluent yet with the tech terms of 3d :blush: When you say 'spring primitives' you mean did I get the objects from somewhere? No, I didn't. I model everything from either a box, cylinder, sphere, tube, and sometimes (rarely) splines. When I told you to create three objects in your thread and then duplicate them and distort them, that's what I did here heheheh. for the ascersories on the table, there are only 5-6 unique ones and then we times that by 10. So in short, yup, they were created by hand hehehe

M@ --> Oh, I will finish it, don't worry about that hehehe.

Nikodemus --> these contests are fun aren't they. I am getting one real nice portfolio ^_^

Well, back to work for mee, there are some really great entries popping up. It was certainly an experience participating in this contest.

fellah

09-06-2002, 12:17 AM

I never learned the langauge except for the few occasional bad words my mother would scream hehehe.
lol :D

btw,
I don't think you'll make it in time :wip: ;)

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 12:49 AM

I think someone has been paying to much attention to the second part of my forum name heheheh:p

More to come:)

:wip: :wip: :wip:

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 01:08 AM

The sink:p

:wip: :wip: :wip:

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 02:27 AM

Oh well, I finished modeling all the big stuff. Now I am playing "connect the dots." Once everything is in place, I will then use wires, and pipes to fill things in. And finally, I will begin to start distorting things to make it look comical. Also, Tomorow, I will work on the cockpit again and fix the boy's pose and expression.

95% chance it will be ready for tomorow, no problem *cough* *cough* *choke*

Later guys . . . :wavey:

:wip: :wip:

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 02:29 AM

Just a test shot with the filter Find edges applied as a multiply layer in photoshop. I am going to try a few things, so some renders might look horrendous:p

tuba3d

09-06-2002, 02:31 AM

Sen-sa-tio-nal!!!!:drool:

I need some beer to make me get back to real world....

Gooooooood job.. I cant expect to see it finished....

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

swag

09-06-2002, 02:38 AM

can u tell me how u make that in that short time - you play a joke on us? if not so ure crasy or autistic? your BOB was great and here comes the next sorry but iam jealously:thumbsup:

tubby

09-06-2002, 03:40 AM

dude, your like the rainman of 3d. i too am amazed with your speed. really nice work, like usual.:drool:

mebamonster

09-06-2002, 03:42 AM

good god Apt!!!! You are truely amazing! This is looking absolutely spectacular!!! I can't wait to see it finished! I am rooting for ya! Go Apt Go!!!!!!:wip: :wip: :wip:

CactusJack

09-06-2002, 04:33 AM

rainman..har har...

6,374,854 polys,
6,374,855 polys,
6,374,856 polys...
yes-yes...
3 million more?...
ok give me 3 minutes...

too damn funny!

rainman or crackhead...who cares man...

tear it up! :thumbsup:

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 06:32 AM

You guys heheheh

HellRender --> Where were you two weeks ago :cry::cry: I'll see what I can do . ..

Finally finished adding the textures to these darn computer cases I finished modeling on Tuesday.

Have to get back to work . . but thanks for the compliments and encouragement. I'll try my best to get this darn thing finished, and those stupid #$%@# engines fixed :cry:

mebamonster

09-06-2002, 06:35 AM

simply awesome!! Keep going! WooHoo! No crits...simply here for moral support. Go! Go! Go!

DimitrisLiatsos

09-06-2002, 09:15 AM

:bounce: Man u work fast....!!! As i said before ..this is one of my favourites!!!Work man...it is up to tonight!!!:wip: :thumbsup:

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 10:17 AM

THanks guys:)

Right now I am working on the top of the ship. It's. . . coming along ok, almost finished.

erilaz

09-06-2002, 11:08 AM

You work exceptionally fast. I'm extremely astounded by your skills!:D

Keep going!:wip:

fellah

09-06-2002, 12:21 PM

wohoo, I fell to sleep and when I voke up.. you.. ehm.. :eek: :surprised

ps: I still don't think you'll make it in time ;)

Drongo Stabbins

09-06-2002, 12:36 PM

Definitely the best display of all round talent in this months challenge...without a doubt!
Excellent work Apt Pupil!
Looking forward to seeing it all together!
Good luck!
:thumbsup:

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 01:42 PM

I have now finished placing everything and I have started to connect everything with wires and pipes (not seen here). However, the lighting for this scene will be worked on in the end. I am already thinking about it:)

Drongo Stabbins --> Thanks :blush:

fellah --> like everyone else on this forum is saying . . . "you bastard" hehehhe

erilaz --> Thanks erilaz:) It's always nice hearing from you.

Have to get back to work . . . work work work

:wip:

erilaz

09-06-2002, 01:59 PM

What really totally amazes me is not that you are actually getting this mammoth project done (which is exceptional in itself), but that you make it look pretty much spot on with your original sketch!

Can you animate this massive contraption at a later date? It would be amazing to see it try and fly, or fail to! Something to add to the nice animation collection on your site!:D

PATER

09-06-2002, 09:54 PM

Sometimes... there are People like Apt...

They work fast, they work efficient... their work is incredibly detailled and its real fun to see it grow...

Pupil is such a guy... his last challenge blew me away (sorry... havent commented :rolleyes: imho one of the best work i ever seen here!)

Although this piece is a bit too "overpacked" with details for me (well, i haven't seen the final with the new light yet ;)), i respect the work that went into it.

I´m curious what we will see in the next Challenge...

Watch out Participants (sorry for my english ;)) This guy is a "Masterpiece-Machine" !!!

good Luck Pupil!

Apt Pupil

09-06-2002, 10:15 PM

I don't know if I am allowed to post my large version here, but, no time to think or ask. (sorry about the size, I don't usually make it this big, I feel bad :blush:)

Final for Contraption entry

"Imaged moved to below this page"

Character entry coming in sometime later tonight :p

Erilaz --> Oops, hehehe, I deviated a bit from my original sketch. . . Oh boy, you saw my animations, how embarrassing. I created those when I was in school:D Talk to you later pal, must get back to . . .

Pater --> Thanks Pater :love: As for the next challenge, I am a bit hesitant to participate in it (if it's a fantasy topic though, I will most likely join) I need to look for work. But then. . . who knows, hehehe.

tubby

09-06-2002, 10:23 PM

yah apt! this turned out frickin great! nice work man:)

mebamonster

09-06-2002, 10:25 PM

WOOOOHOOOOOO!!! You made it!! Looks simply wonderful! Amazing, amazing, amazing. I look forward to your character shots as well. How did the other challenge go for you? or are you still working on that one as well? Your portfolio is going to be beefy after all of these competitions! Great stuff!:beer: :thumbsup:

09-06-2002, 10:34 PM

you thoroughly amaze me ! cheers!:applause:

Ech0

09-06-2002, 10:47 PM

i love to see max artists rock the forum. Any way question #1

how did you map the steel looking panels ????? Rock on man !!!!!!!!!!:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

erilaz

09-06-2002, 11:04 PM

One tiny crit Apt Pupil...

The leaves. I know it's not part of the full contraption, but those leaves are kind of... detached! Or are the turbines blowing them away? They are also obviously cloned. Can you mess 'em up a bit?:D

Apart from that, I can honestly say without a doubt that you have outdone yourself once again! I still can't believe you don't have a job yet in your desired field!

Really nice choice of presentation too. The black and white looks really classy!:thumbsup:

You still rendering with brazil? Or is this a different renderer?

Finally (and after this I'll stop bugging you with comments and questions!), can you render a few angles? I really like the angles you sketched, so can you replicate those?

Hopefully you'll charge into the next challenge and give us all more eye-candy!:D

CactusJack

09-07-2002, 02:51 AM

damn nice work...:beer:

Baal

09-07-2002, 02:53 AM

:eek: !

Where the heck did you find time to model all this?! Are you doing this 24 hours a day, 7 days a week without even taking a break to eat or to pee? Oh I know! You're using a laptop and you work even when you're driving!

Insane! You really managed to create something very impressive there... when I saw you starting modeling like one week before the end I thought you'd never make it... I'm really impressed, you did one magnificent job there! Hope you can pack everything togheter before midnight :p

Keep rockin' :buttrock:

Apt Pupil

09-07-2002, 03:39 AM

CAn't talk now, must create three thumbnails, and email my info (or something like that, I will have to check)

Here is the final for the character:

http://www.magicswithin.com/artwork/contests/04FinalJT.jpg

And a repost of the final for Contraption:
http://www.magicswithin.com/artwork/contests/04FinalContrap.jpg

Later guys, must work work work:wip: :wip: (my brain is goo . . . need sleep :cry:)

Apt Pupil

09-07-2002, 04:52 AM

Well, I finished everything, but before I leave this world and enter the realm of dreams, I thought I would post mee replies:)

Baal --> Yup, I finished it, and even faster then my boat for last challenge. IT was all do to my preliminary tech drafts that made this project rather straight forward. But ya, I didn't leave my computer for a while there hehehe.

erilaz --> Argh!! the leaves, they do seem quite detached. But, unfortuanatly no time to fix it *darn it*. How I rendered it this time around, I used the normal Max Scan line rederer (I think that is what it's called). I created around forty omni lights that I placed everywhere. I didn't use brazil rendering because I didn't want to waste time figuring out how to create transparencies, plus, the rendering time is 30 minutes for a high res as opposed to 2 minutes for what I used:) hmmm, render a few, I'll see, but Lildragon usually creates the new challenge the next day, I have to get some rest for maybe, just maybe I will enter the next one (if it's fantasy, I am in!! maybe hhehehe)

Ech0 --> How did I make the panels?? I unwrapped it and then created the appropriate bump maps filling in photoshop. I learned how to unwrap things in one of my previous contests I entered somewhere else hhehe

m@. --> hey there m@. Unfortuanatly I didn't have time to add in a frame for the cockpit. But thanks for your help with both my 2d and 3d entry. I'll probably be seeing you around heh:)

mebamonster --> The other challenge, hmmmm, I don't think I will continue on it. I have to recover from this one. It's a shame, I really need the low poly models . . .

Tubby --> thanks man, maybe I will see you in another challenge .. . . I am looking forward to it.

And I would just like to thank everyone for the tremendous help and support you have offered me for this project. Couldn't have done it without you :love: (I can't believe I had my engines in reverse, Doh!! (thanks HellRender) )

Later guys, I'll be seeing you again I am sure:)

Virtuoso

09-07-2002, 06:56 AM

"IT's the thought that counts.........."

Well my thoughts are that you are not only very ambitious but very talented. Very unique and totally fun art from you once again. Character and vessel are all 5 star material. I sure hope you will be around for the next challenge Apt, it will be a pleasure to view some more of your visions.I was hoping to join in this month myself, but just was toooo pressed with my own private project, but this next challenge....................If it's as interesting as the past ones.................I will be in from the beginning............Hope you join in on the fun, it's going to be very hot in the ol' town next month.........................

Once again.................Totally great job............bottomline............:beer: :)

fellah

09-07-2002, 10:39 AM

very nice creation, I honestly didn't think you where able to finish this one in time, but you really proved me wrong :surprised

it would have been really neat to see it with some basic colors(and textures :cool: ) but I won't push it ;)

hope the next theme is "fantasy" so your in,
take care
// fellah

Zardoz

09-07-2002, 11:42 AM

the last time i was here i was really impressed.

NOW I'M EVEN MORE!!

Get a life man!! How could u do this so fast??!!!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Apt Pupil

09-08-2002, 01:46 AM

Ahhhh, that was a good sleep:)

Thanks guys . . .

Virtuoso --> Thanks man, it's always nice hearing from you. Knowing your project, I certainly understand why you couldn't attend this contest. Hopefully, we will work along side eachother in a future contest, for it will be interesting seeing some of your works. Until then, you have been a major inspiration and encouragement to not only me, but I am sure other people on these boards. Very kind and well spirited, I am looking forward to seeing and hearing more from you:beer:

fellah --> :argh: honestly, even I can't believe I finished it (the character). I got so tired, I kept dozing off in front of my computer. one minute I was tweaking a vertex, then I look at the clock, and it's 30 minutes later (this happened a few times). Otherwise, I am kind of excited to see what the next contest is going to be, maybe . . . maybe, I'll be seeing you there. Until then . . take care and keep up your marvelous work:beer: (oh, and *hits bastard over the head* I told you sooo hehehehe)

Zardoz --> Thanks^_^

Well, tis the end. Good luck to everyone. It's been an honor and pleasure working here amongst . . . friends.

:wavey: