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Cédric
02-04-2002, 07:21 PM
Well, during the first challenge, I only saw your work... For this second challenge, I will put my work too.
I m a beginner in 3D so all your advices can help me.

This is my project :

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/project.jpg

It' s inspired from the Gunnm's universe...

And this is the beginning of the modeling...

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/robot.jpg

I wait for your advices and suggestions...

And I hope to finish this work, héhé :D

Cédric
02-04-2002, 09:19 PM
A little upgrade :

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/robot2.jpg

balistic
02-04-2002, 09:32 PM
Very cool Cedric . . . he'd look right at home on the Motorball circuit :)

Cédric
02-04-2002, 10:13 PM
I m a big fan of motorball, héhé...
It's one of the most interesting virtual sports. :D

But I will make him more strap... because a nuclear explosion makes some change ;)

RoRo
02-04-2002, 11:30 PM
j'aime bien moué :) je l'ai eu en exclu avec les textures et tt ben ca tue!! :):D :rolleyes:

in english : I like It! :p

The dwarf
02-05-2002, 09:35 AM
Very good start man,i hope you will finished this model,not as me:p .
Vive la belgique,vive albert jacquard.....
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Cédric
02-05-2002, 10:12 PM
Well, this is an upgrade of the modeling :

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/robot6.jpg

And a test for the texturing :

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/robot9.jpg

Tell me what do you think guys...

Héhé ;)

NowInc
02-05-2002, 10:17 PM
its the Jia-Lai player from hell!!

Amazing concept..I like it a lot...

Your 2D sketch is also quite impressive..it looks like it was done with a toon shader...neat lines and everything.

Cédric
02-05-2002, 11:21 PM
well, thx all for this start... :D

NowInc : For the 2D sketch, it was done with Toshop and a wacom tablet... it's juste a drawing in five minutes,..., just to see ;)

The dwarf : Héhé, cool studies :)

Roro : thx

Balistic : Motorball RuleZ, héhé :p

A new upgrade tomorrow...
I wait your advices guys...

Khar_Negt
02-06-2002, 01:27 AM
cool to see more Belgian people coming here... :)

cool to see it's really going well too!

Cédric
02-06-2002, 11:26 PM
thx Khar_Negt

Sorry guys but i m out of ram memory :( So, you won' t have upgrades before monday...

I hope you will give me ideas for the modeling of the bottom of my bot because i don't like my project of feet!!!

I m waiting your suggestions,
see u soon ;)

Cédric
02-07-2002, 10:49 PM
Well, I found an update on a zip so I can send you this picture :

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/robot8.jpg

But I don't feel anything with those feet... PLZ, Help me...
I need some advices and suggestions to make the bottom better...

He looks very strap because he has a heavy armoury...

I wait your suggestions for the feet... and the other parts ;)

Thanks all...

RoRo
02-08-2002, 12:36 AM
you d have to put a metal plack on your feet as you make it in front of your shoulders :D just an subjection

vive la belgique...

v3d
02-08-2002, 10:54 AM
myabe it'l look cool with shorter legs

sherban
02-08-2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by NowInc:

Your 2D sketch is also quite impressive..it looks like it was done with a toon shader...neat lines and everything.
originally posted by Cédric:

NowInc : For the 2D sketch, it was done with Toshop and a wacom tablet... it's juste a drawing in five minutes,..., just to see ;)

actually, it looks like the 2d sketch was traced from your latest render.

Cédric
02-08-2002, 03:51 PM
Sherban : When I work, I put my 2D sketch in the viewport and put it behind the perspective view to have the good proportion... This is why my rendering has the same angle and the same proportions... :)

v3d : I will make some tests ;)

Roro : I keep it in mind.

Cédric
02-09-2002, 05:09 PM
Well, this is a last render befor i begin the feet...

I ve just had a light :

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/robot16.jpg

I hope the feet will be better this night ;)

thx all...

Cédric
02-11-2002, 05:22 PM
Well, this is the update...

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/robot18.jpg

For the feet, it's a mix of the Quake/Gunman/NikeAirMax Styles...
I hope it will sound good.
And, there is the texturing too.

Now, i m waiting your comments to arrange my character. And I will probably begin a landscape to put my bot...

I wait all of your advices...

RoRo
02-12-2002, 03:34 PM
the feet are well better like that cedric

good continuation

++ RoRo:rolleyes:

The dwarf
02-12-2002, 10:47 PM
cool,cedric
the texture and shoes are very good:D
Post your landscape as soon as possible.
@++

Cédric
02-15-2002, 05:25 PM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/landscape2.jpg

Well, this is an idea for the landscape... I'm not applying the landscape's callenge rules because it's not my purpose to do the two challenges, i just want to make a little background for my character...

What do you think about this idea?

iNFERNiS
02-15-2002, 07:15 PM
hey, I didn't know belgians could make this kind of stuff :D

truly great character, very nice :)

RoRo
02-16-2002, 11:51 PM
I like the idea and environment, but it is necessary to see what that gives with the character in the scene...:D good continuation

Cédric
02-22-2002, 08:36 PM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip.jpg

Well, i stood a long time without giving news because i had some work for school. I ve worked and added details on my bot...

So, tell me what do you think?

I hope you will like it.

Thanks to all

Cédric
02-23-2002, 03:18 PM
Well, my bot looks like a "beastmonster" with the arms like that so i change it to make the duckdance, lol :p

Qu en pensez vous?

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip2web.jpg

RoRo
02-24-2002, 12:13 PM
I like the position of the catch, superb environment.

good luck for the challenge :D :D lol

Cédric
02-25-2002, 01:47 PM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip3web.jpg

Well, it' s just to have some critics and suggestions about my scene. In fact, it is only my second character (as I told you, i m a beginner) and it' s the first tima i m playing with the lights prameters. So, all of your help about modelling, lights and environment are welcome...

Do you have some ideas for the scene?

Vers l infini et l au delà, mouhahahaha :D

Thanks all

Cédric
02-25-2002, 10:22 PM
Well, i added the motorball :D

Lot of peaople I know told me it looks very like a motorball player of Gunm's universe.

So, i ve made the modeling of the ball and this is the update :

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip4web.jpg

Cédric
02-27-2002, 07:42 PM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip5web.jpg

Well, i have make a track which is a mix of the Gunm/Formal 1 universes ;)

As you can see, i have modelised the bottom of the track too.
I wanted advices for the lights to make a good environment. Do you have some details to ad?
Do you prefer the texturised version or the nontexturized one?

I don't know if I will make more post because i m having to have lot of work for school in the beginning march!

thanks all

Spiritron
02-28-2002, 05:35 AM
Fantastic!! i really love your character. You could do so many great things with it. How about some channel lights or running lights on or near the track and the walls. A very high tech arena would compliment your model; maybe a huge video screen in the background with an alternative view of your character. I'm impressed and look forward to the day when I can create something that good. Thanks for the inspiration!

RoRo
02-28-2002, 08:25 PM
:eek: I like it , I love the position of the people , that gives a beautiful speed effect :cool: very cool

Cédric
03-01-2002, 02:18 PM
Spiritron : Thanks a lot for the answer... For the huge video screen it' s really a great idea :) And the running lights too but i never played with lights so it will be a test for me ;)
Roro : thx

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip6web.jpg

Well, this is just a little update, a test for the texturing.

For environment I would see well an enlightened track of small lights and some panels.
Perhaps create skates and not shoes...the position search for speed in skate can give better than the race! I ll incline the their bust forwards.
I'd like to create some sparks... But how can I make this??? Someone can help me?

Pour l' environnement, je verrais bien une piste éclairée par de petites lampes et quelques panneaux indicateurs.
Peut-etre que je vais créer des patins au lieu des chaussures... La position de vitesse devrait mieux donner, aussi, j inclinerai leurs bustes vers l' avant.
J' aimerai créer des étincelles... Mais comment faire? Quelqu' un peut m' aider???

PS : Merci à toxy, AenariOn, Ogl et JeP pour leurs suggestions.

Cédric
03-03-2002, 06:04 PM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip7web.jpg

No answers, ouinnnnnn :'(
;) lol

A little update because the pose of my bots was too much "static"...

I repost an imoprtant question for me :p : I'd like to create some sparks... But how can I make this??? Someone can help me?

Thanks all

Totitch
03-03-2002, 07:36 PM
Yeah Cedric... poses are really better!

En français: Tu peux encore leur donner un posing plus poussé...Qui montre qu'ils ont de la vitesse...Incline les sur l'avant et donne leur des poses plus extreme...Regarde peut-etre des ohotos de patineur en pleine vitesse....En attendant,ils m'ont l'air encore un peu trop "Relax"! :D
Joues aussi sur le plan de ta camera et la focale...Ajoute du blur!!!

PLEINE VITESSE!!! :D :D :D

Mais tes posing sont vraiement Beaucoup Beaucoup mieux!
Bravo! ;)

RoRo
03-04-2002, 12:09 AM
yeahhh j'adore , les fleches que tu a rajoutée vont bien avec l'image :)

sôf ke t'aurai pu mettre un plus grand rendu ;)

++RoRo

Cédric
03-04-2002, 02:55 PM
Thx totitch and Roro...

Only for you Totitch, a new update, I hope you will love it :D

I think I don't have enough RAM to make better during the rendering :'(

En Francais pour Totitch, lol : Et oui, j' ai rebossé mes poses rien que pour toi ;) Voilà le résultat. Tu as même droit à un avant-après :D
A bientot l' ami...

I wait your comments

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip9web.jpg

pabbloz
03-04-2002, 03:36 PM
Cédric! very good the now-render! I like very much the depth of field, but could you post a bigger render?! It's hard to see the details :(

Now I love the poses!!! Great job!

Totitch
03-04-2002, 04:59 PM
Yes!

It's a really better pose!
And the blur give a lot of dynamic to the scene!

Really nice picture now...I hope to see a bigger one!


French:
T'as vu comme elle y gagne ton image!
Compare avec la premiere!!! Rien a voir! Maintenant on y croit... Souvient t'en pour tes images a venir...
BRAVO!!! ;) :D
Encore un petit truc pour rendre ton image encore plus nickel...Pose des lumieres le long de la piste...Comme si elles eclairaient d'en haut,sur le bord exterieur de la piste,et que ça face une zone éclairée,une zone d'ombre,une zone éclairée,une zone d'ombre,...
Tu met le premier type dans la zone éclairée...et le deuxieme en retrait,menaçant...dans une zone d'ombre.
A toi de voir...

Rajoute peut-etre des trainée sur le sol(Texture),comme si ils rayaient la piste avec leur patins...et met des etincelles! :D :D :D

Salut! C'est du bon travail

Cédric
03-04-2002, 09:09 PM
Pabbloz: I don't have enough RAM to make it better! I ve just tried to make one in 800x600 and in the middle of the rendering, my pc crashed :(
So, I will ask to a friend to make one with his computer for the final render, for the 6 ;)

But you can see this one : It's in fact the "now" rendering bigger thanks to Photoshop and my bot alone to see the details :D

Totitch: Thanks a lot guy :D Je vais faire ce que tu dis, héhé ;) les lumières, les trainées et les étincelles :) Ce sera pour bientôt :D
En tout cas, merci beaucoup pour l' interêt que tu portes à mon wip et tous tes conseils qui me permettent d' apprendre beaucoup :D Encore merci l' ami...

It's not an update, it's just to not let Pabbloz waiting too much time before an update, lol

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip10web.jpg

Thanks all

lildragon
03-04-2002, 09:13 PM
you nailed the motion bud with the now render, very very good composition and style, but your D.O.F is a bit off :) keep going

cheers

Cédric
03-06-2002, 03:34 AM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip14web.jpg

Pabbloz : You wanted a bigger one, no problem ;) (Merci aenarion d' avoir utilisé ta machine :) )

Totitch : Voilà l' ami, tous tes voeux réalisés, du moins j' espère une bonne partie car je viens de finir et je suis crevé :D (Merci à Imothep pour ses conseils et son aide précieuse)
English = Well bud, all your wishes are realized, euh..., I hope ;-) because i ve just finished and I m so tired :D

lildragon : I hope the depth of field is better now ;)

I added details and i make the corrections of some bugs like wrong cables, i hope it's good now ;)

Thanks all, see you soon...
All your advices and suggestions are welcome :)
PS: 3 days left ! I don't know if there will be updates...

Totitch
03-06-2002, 04:22 AM
Yes! It's really nice!

But you loose the blue and red color you had before!
It was good!

But all you modification except that one are good!
Your picture is better and better!

Les marques dans le sol pouraient etre plus marquées mais bon...
Si t'arrive a faire un mix de tes deux dernieres images c'est parfait!
Allez quoi! encore un p'tit rendu! ;) :D :D

RoRo
03-06-2002, 06:02 PM
:eek: I like it !! http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

goob joob ced

pFodere
03-06-2002, 08:00 PM
hello, man good progress
much, much better i opine (d' ours) the same of Totich :
mix your two last renders et tu le tiens !


à bientôt !

iNFERNiS
03-06-2002, 09:11 PM
ugh, great stuff.

poses are very well done, they really express the amount of power they have :D

keep it up.

Cédric
03-06-2002, 11:20 PM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip16web.jpg

Totitch : Thanks my bud :) So this is the mix
J' ai remis cette source lumineuse rouge mais je perds un peu dans la zone d ombre... Et j ai aussi augmenté les traits d' usure sur le sol
RoRo : Thanks a lot guy
patrick Fodéré : Thanks a lot for your comment :) I hope i have it now ;) encore merci et à la prochaine ;)
inFErniS : Thanks a lot dude :)

All : This is the mix between the two images :) I put a red color as Totitch and pascal Fodéré told me. But with this color, i' m losing a bit the enlightened zone-shade one...
I put more features of wear too.

I wanted to thank all of you who posted comments and send me pm because it's thanks to you that i m making this picture with those details :) When I saw my first post and this one, there is really a progress i think, so THANK YOU :D

Lorenzo
03-07-2002, 01:46 AM
but my comment maybe come a little late.
something, you can maybe change is the level of Depth Of Field , is a little to strong at the right side, but the rest is quite good, I like the motion :).
Keep going.
Lorenzo :rolleyes:

TwoFlower
03-07-2002, 04:03 PM
amazing evolution of your technical skills...

good works..

i disagree with Totich about the sparks (probably 'etincelles' in french).. simply remove them.. wheels rolls on the ground. if you put sparks, IMO, you try to suggest that some metal rubs on the ground..

Totitch
03-07-2002, 04:49 PM
Beautifull picture...

For the sparks, there is maybe too much on the first character, but although he has got wheel, if it is in metal, with the weigh of their armor,i think it's normal it makes some sparks...
Good work Cédric!
I like it a lot like that! :)

Ps: patience pour les Tutoriaux...Ils arrivent!!!

bibi5000
03-07-2002, 05:20 PM
Very nice picture! Like the comic, too :)

I'm with Totitch, as far as the sparcs are concerned, they look a little bit unnatural.

The characters need a little bit motion blur to illustrate the speed, they're running at. A tiny little bit, not to damage the very beautiful FOV blur in this image.

Did you think of animating the scene?

Cédric
03-07-2002, 08:03 PM
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/sg1/images3d/wip18web.jpg

Lorenzo : thanks. I change a bit the DOF on the right (on the arrow exactly). I hope it's better now ;)

TwoFlower-Totitch-bibi5000 : Thanks a lot :) Yes étincelles mean sparks, héhé :D Totitch answers your question. But first, i had the same opinion of TwoFlower. So i read carefully the tome 3 and 4 of gunnm and when they are rolling, we can see lots of sparks... So, i don't know what I have to do. Here's an update with a little less sparks on the first player. But i will perhaps remove the sparks on his right foot. But, by this way, the picture loses a lot of intensity. So i don't know ...
For the right foot, the bot is putting his foot on the ground so i think there are lot of sparks, no? ;)

Totitch : j' attends j' attends :)

bibi5000 : I m making some test on character's blur... perhaps in the last update :) No, I don't think to animate this scene. As I told lot of guys here, i' m a beginner, this are my first steps on modeling so i don't have the capacity to make animation for the moment! but, in the further, when i will be better, yes, i' d like to make an animation with that scene :D

Thanks all

RoRo
03-07-2002, 11:39 PM
the render a very beautifulllll :D tu devrais mettre un rendu + grand pour le print ou mm pour le plaisir des yeux ;)

Piz
03-08-2002, 05:29 PM
B R A V O ! ! ! :D

Just a Rollerball PA Entry! :D

I like it!!!!!!!

Piz

:cool:

parallax
03-08-2002, 07:37 PM
damn. how did i missed this on. great stuff, very dynamic.

Cédric
03-09-2002, 01:46 AM
RoRo-Piz-parallax : Thanks a lot :D

Well, probably no more update for the challenge...
I just wanted to thank one more time cgtalk and all the people here because, thanks to you, i ve learned so many things :)

Special thanks to Totitch and Imothep :D

I hope to make the next challenge...
See you soon and THANKS ALL :)

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