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Imatk
09-11-2004, 04:19 PM
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Title: Morning Light
Name: Jamie Clark
Country: United States
Software: LightWave 3D

An F-14 above the clouds looking toward the sun.
I was inspired by some fellow artists on another board.
This was rendered in Lightwave, textured in photoshop.
The model is from the mesh factory.

Dave3D
09-11-2004, 09:46 PM
wow, pritty much photo real. the subtle dirt and water damage!

Dave:thumbsup:

metronaut
09-11-2004, 10:42 PM
really nice texturing. Not much to crit here

nononowhatisyourname!?
09-11-2004, 10:58 PM
looks awesome....i love it. Wow, another person from Los Angeles....do you live around it or in the city? (i live like 20 minutes from downtown)

Imatk
09-11-2004, 11:38 PM
Thanks everyone glad you liked it :)

And yeah, I live in Hollywood.

Ecleposs
09-12-2004, 07:05 AM
good work...congrats:) :thumbsup:

kaleith
09-12-2004, 09:03 AM
Reeeeeeallllllly very very gooood.... I liked it alot. You know what, it reminds me a bit robotech cartoons. God how I loved them... :)

Good work:thumbsup:

Napa!m
09-12-2004, 11:31 AM
clouds are 2d or 3d? ( hypervoxel? )

ThomasPagel
09-12-2004, 12:18 PM
good job :thumbsup: nice textures...

Aearon
09-12-2004, 02:23 PM
cool way to show this subject... the image has a nice warm feeling to it :)

my only nitpick: i don't get the impression that it's moving very fast. when i first saw the image at full size i got the feeling it was just hovering in mid-air. at first i thought it had something to do with the perspective, but then i thought... maybe the exhausts should show some sign of action :)

Imatk
09-12-2004, 05:45 PM
Thanks for the replies everyone :)

Napalm the background is a photo.

Aeron, there is a small amount of distortion on the engines already.

Guillermo
09-12-2004, 06:16 PM
Very good work!

Textures are outstanding! :thumbsup:

SergioSantos
09-12-2004, 08:43 PM
really impressive image, well done.

i love the photoreal and the drawing look.

Panupat
09-12-2004, 08:51 PM
very nice. the plane is right on perfect. the cloud while looking realistic, their shapes are weird. and their high contrast is drawing too much attension i think...

arno barbo
09-13-2004, 12:30 AM
Pffff!!! The model is from the mesh factory? Background is a simple photo... and uv got four stars? What's ur job in this? U'v mapped, and what? So ure picture obtain 4 stars in this wip, despite of the fact that i see so many works which nobody stare at, and which have done from the beginning til the end by the author...

agreenster
09-13-2004, 04:51 AM
The model is from the mesh factory.

So just for clarification, you did texture only?

Imatk
09-13-2004, 05:37 AM
Thanks for the replies guys glad you like it :)

Yeah the first render I did when I started to do this was, I guess, more realistic. But I tweaked the lighting a little and got the more contrasty... punchy look which I liked. I can post the first one if anyone is interested.

In any case I'm glad you liked it :D

And yes agreenster, I textured and lit it only.

oxyg3n
09-13-2004, 08:06 PM
Nice job on the lighting. I like it alot.

Wesball
09-13-2004, 08:08 PM
Let's see your other render.

swampthing
09-13-2004, 08:15 PM
The plane is not realistic in my opinion, looks more like an illustration. It doesn't blend in with the background very well either, there is a very harsh contrast between the two. The surface of the plane is too smooth and plastic looking as well. I even think i see some subtle reflections that shouldn't be their, military aircraft are painted in matte paint for a reason, reflections=bad. The angle of the plane in correlation to the background also feels awkward and it feels more like the background is just thrown in rather than the plane actually being there. The lighting of the plane, the color and intensity also don't match the background image very well.

I'd also add some heat blur or distortion of some kind behind the jet nozzles to at least give a remote appearance that the jet is actually supposed to be flying.

mvunderground
09-13-2004, 08:24 PM
Nice Mapping :twisted:

While I am not trying to put you down, but I wonder why this got front page if you did not make it only map and render it, but it does look good. I would have done more to make it blend into the photo background more to give it more motion "flying and not floating" effect.

Michael Chen
09-13-2004, 08:44 PM
Nice work :thumbsup:

effilang
09-13-2004, 08:49 PM
I find it distinctively honourable to state your interaction or participation in the process of creation of a piece of art when you post,need it be told. . . .rather than making a fool out of us.

I mean for Gods sake the first thing i thought to myself...was...*V.NICE MODELING* . . i could almost imagine you breaking your back over the long modeling hours. . . and it turns out you didnt model it.

I am not in anyway discriminating or trying to partition more integrity to particular spheres of Animation . .be it Modeling,Texturing,Lighting,Char-Animation, but as we all know here . . . .work is work and if its not urs,let it be known.

. . now for some good 'ol crit. he he..

Nice model :deal: . . .:P

The texturing is very nice also..spot on,great job there.

The background as it was said before is realy out of view . . .and if you trace your model along its edges while keeping a Smart eye on the background u'll realize how much its out of composition.

The lighting is nice but not fitting in correspondence with this composit.


PHAT work :P....realy good stuff..

Keep it up..

take care..

F.

Imatk
09-13-2004, 08:54 PM
Here is the first render I did... which isn't as contrasty and blends more with the background.

http://www.samjam.com/Images/F14_Clouds_3_Diffuse_Op.jpg

So I've had a couple of questions about why people like this even though i didn't model it, and I "only" textured and lit it.

I guess to each his own, I'm just glad people are enjoying it :)

As for why I didn't model it... I suppose I could have modeled it, but I already had the model so that seems kind of redundant.

And BTW, myself and others make a pretty decent living "only" texturing and lighting stuff... of course I model stuff and animate stuff too hehe ;)

effilang
09-13-2004, 08:59 PM
This one looks much better :):thumbsup:

mechaboy
09-13-2004, 08:59 PM
I'm a little confused, I really like the image and think its great but You only did the textures and got front page notice. I applaud your effort and your work but I am unsure if this should be front page material in the nature of artistic effort. Compared to making the model and background from scratch. Even if they were not perfect I would have been more inclined to showcase that effort. :shrug:

DustinBrown
09-13-2004, 10:05 PM
To all of you folks who are apprehensive concerning what this ARTIST'S achievement here merits, I say to you this: welcome to the world of art. We are in an industry where if it looks right then it is right. You guys can quibble all day about technical whatnots, but at the end of the day the best artist doesn’t necessarily always get the work/job/attention that many of you feel that he so justly deserves due to his pain-staking efforts, and conversely there are some pretty bad artists out there who are finding it plenty easy to get work. ***I'm not saying that this artist is bad. Quite the opposite, I love this piece.***

The person who posted this image, was pretty open with what he did and did not "create" in the image and, besides, its like he said ... he makes a good living doing this sort of thing, heh.

For what it is, I think it looks great. I hope to be able to texture and light with that level of skill someday.

silicate
09-13-2004, 10:34 PM
I like the second image better, not so contrasty very nice!

The only thing that I noticed as being off was that there doesn't seem to be any pilots. Other than not being able to see the gun underneath from the perspective, I wouldn't mind seing a few renders in Gaurdian or Batteloid mode ;)!

omar C
09-13-2004, 10:41 PM
To all of you folks who are apprehensive concerning what this ARTIST'S achievement here merits, I say to you this: welcome to the world of art. We are in an industry where if it looks right then it is right. You guys can quibble all day about technical whatnots, but at the end of the day the best artist doesn’t necessarily always get the work/job/attention that many of you feel that he so justly deserves due to his pain-staking efforts, and conversely there are some pretty bad artists out there who are finding it plenty easy to get work. ***I'm not saying that this artist is bad. Quite the opposite, I love this piece.***

The person who posted this image, was pretty open with what he did and did not "create" in the image and, besides, For what it is, I think it looks great. I hope to be able to texture and light with that level of skill someday.
i second that opinion, darn nice render

dgpilot
09-13-2004, 10:53 PM
There is good achievement in technical work in this piece, but not art.

limE
09-13-2004, 11:23 PM
There is good achievement in technical work in this piece, but not art.
I'd say the opposite :)

It looks realy nifty anyways.., good work

JetStrike
09-14-2004, 12:22 AM
That sure is photorealistic!

dat
09-14-2004, 12:25 AM
Folks,

Like the man said, to each his own. Let us not belittle his talent, the job he did lighting and texturing is quite good and deserves recognition as it is still exceptional to a large degree.

It's like degrading the efforts of the inker, colorist, and letterer of comic books when you say the penciler is the only real artist in the collaboration.

This IS CG Talk, I believe CG stands for Computer Graphics and this is CG art.


Great work.

:Dat

Finkster
09-14-2004, 12:36 AM
Folks,

Like the man said, to each his own. Let us not belittle his talent, the job he did lighting and texturing is quite good and deserves recognition as it is still exceptional to a large degree.

Great work.

:DatTrue indeed. And besides, he made it quite clear in his original post that he was not the creator of the model. People shouldn't be so eager to pounce on the artist for being dishonest, maybe reading the post carefully would be a better idea.

Fair play to the man.

aaraaf
09-14-2004, 12:48 AM
The texturing in this was the second thing I noticed after my initial "wow" of the image as a whole... They're really awesome... the way that the grudge on the plane looks to have settled in to its places from many flighthours on the plane not only gives the thing some weight, but maybe a little story.

I like the second render better... the contrast feels more right.

If the image is rendered in LW, then you composited it in Photoshop or something, I would say to render the image on a white or really light grey BG color... the edges from the alpha matte tend to show the BG color through in compositing... It gives the edges kind of a traced appearance.

Glad you make a living at something you're good at!

Kanga
09-14-2004, 01:21 AM
I must say you sure have a good eye.

I would love to see what you could do with a concept jet!
Like all the vehicle posts I never see the point of recreating existing objects while 3D allows us to explore the wild and fantastic.

Having said that I know many many people love what you have made and there is no doubt about there being a market for it. If I saw this shot on a ps2 game box I'd probably buy it.

Great stuff.

Imatk
09-14-2004, 01:50 AM
Thanks for the replies everyone.

I decided to do this piece after being inspired by an excellent aircraft render from Arai on another board... I hoped to do the same with this and I guess, for some, I did :)

silicate, the pilots are there... you just have to look close ;) and I'm not sure what you mean by "Gaurdian" or "Battleoid" mode.

dat, you had me thinking of Chasing Amy with your post... nice :)

shyy
09-14-2004, 05:15 PM
nice textures

karr1008
09-17-2004, 02:04 AM
WOW!

PhotoReal Stuff.
I would like to see the wireframes and other angles.
Perhaps add motion, action to evoque a story...a dogfight perhaps.
Anyways... Still, it is an impressive work.

Good Job!! :thumbsup:

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