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tevans
09-09-2004, 07:40 PM
I have read way too much about monitors i & i just cant take it in anymore. I just ordered a snazzy Boxx 7106 and now I need a monitor(s). I thought i was going to get the Sony 24 in GDM-FW900- but I put 95lbs of books on my desk and it began to sag.
So I thought I'd go for dual monitors (weight would spread & be ok). I thought I had made up my mind about getting crt, now I don't know.
I will be using maya6 to animate and model and the usuall support software-graphic/web ect.
I deeply apreciate visal clairity (as I have bad vision) and I dont want my darks to all look black ( i do alot with changing the color temp of darks to get effects) but I dont exactly work for someone doing color correction ect.
I just hate the idea of 2 hulks on my desk which is in the middle of the room- but I will live with it if I must- I'll probalby replace the monitors in 3-5 years.
Anyway I'll spend around $1000-1300 USD for both.

Someone just take me by the hand and lead me to monitor heaven where I dont have to make decisions - ok just normal advice or person experience stories would be aprecitaed.
Thanks
T

Andyman
09-10-2004, 12:50 AM
I don't know tons about monitors, so I'll be brief.

If you can afford it, I would go with dual LCDs. If you get a good LCD, you get very, very (usually unnoticable) little ghosting; and the clarity LCDs is better than anything else I've seen, and they're easier on your eyes. Also with LCDs, you have a smaller border around the actual screen, which makes them ideal for a dual setup.

However, sometimes you can get better contrast on a CRT; and bigger sizes are generally cheaper... as well as some other advantages that I can't think of right now.

There's good stuff on both ends of the spectrum... just gotta look. You know what you want in a monitor, that's the first step.

Go take a trip to your local Best Buy or other large electronics store, and have a look at some of the things they have on display. The more research the better.

I hope this helps at least a little.. good luck man : ).

EDIT: Check out this thread. http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=168691

captain3d
09-10-2004, 02:34 AM
I just bought two second hand 21" CRT's for £50 each ($100)

compaq P1100

Flat trinitron

These big things are not so popular and therefore cheap second hand. Dont ship them though.

Phil

Ed Caracappa
09-10-2004, 12:07 PM
Let me know if you find this link helpful

http://compare.monitorsdirect.com/shopping_tools/boxx/makesel.jsp

thomaspecht
09-10-2004, 12:45 PM
i do have experience with a 24 inch sony monitor (although a rebranded and slightly modified one). picture was perfect, even after years of use - which is something you cannot say about many brands. downside is that it occupies such a huge chunck of desk space (especially in a combination with a wacom tablet), that it heatens a room noticeably and probably eats a lot of power, too.
also, if you move regularly, i'd stay far away from it. two people have a lot of fun lifting such a beast around. also, the large the more sensitive and fragile a screen gets.
i'm living near a train station and one of my current iiyama screens starts to flacker while high speed trains pass by.

personally i do not like the whole dual-screen thing. it causes certain software-conflicts which might not be important to you, though. maybe your budget allows for 22" inch displays or CRT's for a decent single screen setup.

brands that from my experience you can hardly go wrong with are (in no particular order) sony, eizo and iiyama. long lasting stuff with very good picture quality.

i do not have such good experience with samsung and a few cheap brands.

beerseba
09-10-2004, 02:50 PM
brands that from my experience you can hardly go wrong with are (in no particular order) sony, eizo and iiyama. long lasting stuff with very good picture quality.

i do not have such good experience with samsung and a few cheap brands.
In my country you can only get SAMSUNG, LG and a few VIEWSONIC.

I got amazed what GIJOE said, is SAMSUNG a cheap Brand? i never thought that could happen.

thomaspecht
09-10-2004, 05:36 PM
In my country you can only get SAMSUNG, LG and a few VIEWSONIC.

I got amazed what GIJOE said, is SAMSUNG a cheap Brand? i never thought that could happen.
of course that's personal experience only. i did have to return my samsung 900 whatever three or four times (first one died only a few hours after purchase) and always got a new one that either didn't last long or delivered a blurry picture.

the last one had a mediocre picture quality but at least didn't die after a few months, i gave it away and got myself an iiyama. needless to say the difference in picture quality was simply amazing.

tevans
09-10-2004, 07:57 PM
Let me know if you find this link helpful

http://compare.monitorsdirect.com/shopping_tools/boxx/makesel.jsp
Yes Ed thank you this is proving very helpful.


However,
Is this a stupid question?- Can I set up a dual monitor system with one crt and on l LCD - I'll assume the resolution should be the same but - does size matter?

or is it this simple- that is multipule monitor systems all monitors should be alike?

g-nome
09-10-2004, 10:56 PM
Let me know if you find this link helpful

http://compare.monitorsdirect.com/shopping_tools/boxx/makesel.jsp
"There is no monitor that met your requirements"
...darn :shrug:

Tarrbot
09-11-2004, 01:08 AM
I had a rebranded Sony 24" monitor (sgi 16:10 format monitor). It was very pimp. It was very heavy. It was very big.

Seriously, I've never had "extra hands" when moving it and always had to move it myself. If you are considering getting a monitor this size, be very aware that they are quite heavy and take up a ton of room.

I loved it though. I would still have it if it wouldn't have died while I was away for about a month.

Going back to a 21" seems odd. You get used to working with such large spaces in apps like Photoshop that you feel confined.

Oh well. Life happens.

shehbahn
09-11-2004, 01:38 AM
the Sony 24" is what most of the film industry is working on atm btw...

Andyman
09-11-2004, 04:37 AM
Yes Ed thank you this is proving very helpful.


However,
Is this a stupid question?- Can I set up a dual monitor system with one crt and on l LCD - I'll assume the resolution should be the same but - does size matter?

or is it this simple- that is multipule monitor systems all monitors should be alike? You can set up dual monitors with one CRT and on LCD. I actually hook up a CRT to my laptop (LCD of course) sometimes and have dual monitors. They can also be different resolutions from each other - but this would likely cause viewing problems when you try to span a window across both monitors. The same with size... you could have a 15" LCD and 21" CRT, with each having a different resolution - but would you want to? You can do it, sure, but it may make seeing things a little odd. Just depends on what you want/need. Also, it would be very hard to find an LCD and CRT with matching colors/contrast/and such - might make one half of a painting look slightly different colors and brightness than the other side. Know what I mean?

To me, having two of the same monitor would be ideal - or at least an LCD and CRT that are the same size and resolution; but you can set it up however you like.

tevans
09-11-2004, 03:58 PM
I'm drooling over the sony 24" - I was thinking that I could use my laptop for the 2ed moitor if I had that monster. I would use the 2ed monitor for menus and tools and the first for the actual picture/model I am working on. My laptop however has a nvidia geforce4 440 go- graphics card and doesnt really work well with maya. Would that prevent me from using it as a second monitor?
How would I hook the laptop up to be monitor #2, assuming the aformentioned problem didnt prohibit this idea entirely.
If not I'll just try to find the best LCD 19" i can and get 2. I just worry over all the "problems" i hear about- dead pixels - & especially not enough descrimination in darks (telling cool darks from warm darks).

Thanks T

unclebob
09-11-2004, 04:27 PM
another thing to remember about LCD is that they have a "native" resolution that they operate at.. ie: 1024x768 or what ever where with the CRT you can adjust it to your needs.

The other side of the coin, as was previously said, the LCD takes up MUCH less desk space, doesn't use a much electricty (if used with a UPS gives you extra time to save and shut down) and also doesn't produce nearly as much heat.

LCD's are also easier on the eyes because there is no flicker on LCD where there is on any CRT because of the way the images are displayed (same thing with tube TV's). Have you ever seen a TV show where there is a TV/computer monitor in the background and you see the black bar across the screen ? that is because of the refresh rate/film recording frame rate on the TV/monitor, hince the flicker. Most CRT's/video cards have an option to change the refresh rate to help with flicker.

LCD sizes are different than CRT. A 19" LCD is really 19" viewable where as a 19"CRT is actually 18.1" viewable.
If you can wing it.. go with LCD.

or

If you have the chance, go to a computer store and ask to see a display of the same size monitors.. ie: 19" LCD vs 20/21" CRT. See if they are willing to set them side by side to do a comparison

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