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fellah
08-08-2002, 01:13 AM
:wavey:
time again :)

concept:
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBConcept1.jpg
(PS: if you don't see the image, please tell me and I'll try to fix it)
it should reassemble a "guy" flying around in outerSpace with his homemade toiletRocket driven by his own gas ;)
hope you like it, I might clean up the concept a bit as it's very rough right now.. but I rather start modeling! :wip:

take care
// fellah

Koma
08-08-2002, 01:17 AM
ha ha ha ha mouahahah ... nice concept .....:bounce:

Harrad
08-08-2002, 01:22 AM
Haha... good idea!
You could add little gas canisters (sp?) on it as well to store up left over gas. that would make a nice little detail. Looking forward to seeing how this develops...
-Matt :D

mrmark
08-08-2002, 01:30 AM
haha thats beautiful!!

one qualm though:
how do you manage to get so talented in just the one lifetime??

fellah
08-08-2002, 09:13 AM
Gabe: thanks alot!
Harrad: a "gas canisters" is a good idea, I will add it to my "to do" list for this guy :thumbsup:
mrmark: thanks ;)

fellah
08-08-2002, 04:10 PM
this character was really _fun_ to make, only 3-4hours of work so far.
sorry but I don't have the time to make a nice render right now so these screenshoots will have to do:
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondWIP1.gif

:wip:

OZ
08-08-2002, 04:14 PM
YEAH!!!!! FELLAH IS INN!!! WOAAAA! SO FUNNY!

Ur sense of colour is awesome!Hope to an hires pic of ur last challenge!!!!!!;)
I thank u again 4 ur pirate hirespic!Still my desktop! YA ROX!

fellah
08-08-2002, 05:42 PM
OZ da concept man of this challenge, thanks! :) I'll try to finish the previous challenge entry soon. I've to many projects in the air right now (4-5? :) )
haha, cool thing you still have the pirate as your wallpapper :thumbsup: :D

visualboo
08-08-2002, 05:58 PM
haha.... JEEEEEZ that's close to my freakin idea. HAHAHA you rule!

Check out that magazine he's reading :D Getting smart I see

Koma
08-08-2002, 06:03 PM
nice modelling start ,its really look like the skecth ......

Ech0
08-08-2002, 07:59 PM
keep it up can't wait to see more:buttrock:

freemind77
08-08-2002, 09:01 PM
great concept , go for it :bounce:

fellah
08-08-2002, 09:48 PM
visualboo: heheh, you got scared when you saw his powerFull machine didn't you? and that guy has _alot_ of gas to spare as you can see ;)

Ech0: thanks! btw, I answered the Q on the "spaceDuck thread" for you!(in about 1-2 min ;) )

Gabe, freemind77: thanks alot guys! :)

Virtuoso
08-08-2002, 11:30 PM
Very happy to see you in once again Fellah, as you know I thought your last entry was one of the best in overall aspects, and I am really looking forward to this one..........Cool fun character sketch you got there. By the way I would love to get that Pirate character a good look if possible...........Anyways go to it Fellah, see you soon.:thumbsup: :beer: :)

Bezerker75
08-08-2002, 11:38 PM
hey I guess the guys let you out of the closet to work on this months challenge...lol...anyway...looking nice so far...I think I may sit this challenge out...not sure yet...but I will keep any eye on this one...:thumbsup:

fellah
08-09-2002, 12:13 AM
Virtuoso: hey! you promised to join this challenge! I hope you didn't lie :annoyed: ;)
about the pirate, sure I'll dig it up for you tomorrow. right now I'm really tired, but it will be among the first things I do tomorrow, I promise. thanks once again and I hope you join in soon!


Bezerker75:
hey I guess the guys let you out of the closet to work on this months challenge
hehehe, no they didn't. I sneaked out, you know they are all on vacation right now, they don't know I'm here ;)

I think I may sit this challenge out
haha, sure.. I know you won't.. these challanges are like drugs, once you pop you can't stop! ;)

thanks for all the kind words, I had a few hours to spare on the model.
getting closer to finish the head now I think:
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondWIP2.jpg
please crit everything to pieces if you have the time and feel. I need to work more around the eyes, that I know.



take care
// fellah

Virtuoso
08-09-2002, 12:30 AM
HI Fellah..............Yes I am in, just putting all the pieces in some kind of order, I'll show something soon.:)


And thanks, I really cannot wait to see that Pirate.............

As for your creation.................Shifty eyes= trouble I think, he looks like a cross inbetween a Goblin and a elf thus far, at least to me right now. I see a large ear ring in his future coming too............I think you are just about there.............Just a bit more detailing, which I know is coming andyou got another top notch character/creature.................Back later you can count on that................ :beer: :)

swag
08-09-2002, 02:20 AM
fellah you are the character god - thats very nice what i can see here and the ears hmmm iam waiting for more :thumbsup:

visualboo
08-09-2002, 03:17 AM
visualboo: heheh, you got scared when you saw his powerFull machine didn't you? and that guy has _alot_ of gas to spare as you can see
HAHAHAH...... yes :surprised

Awsome model fellah..... you rock bud! No crits.

fellah
08-09-2002, 11:36 AM
Virtuoso: I'll show something soon.great to hear :thumbsup:
here you have pics of the old pirate.. it's old work:
pirateFontView (http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/Pirate_FrontView.jpg)
pirateBackView (http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/Pirate_BackView.jpg)

and yes, more tweaking around the eyes and more details is on it's way, thanks! :wip:

swag: hehe *feeds his ego* ;) thanks!

HellRender thanks! maybe I will. I don't think alot of ppl uses the method I'm using ;)

visualboo: thanks alot, your model is really great so far to!

take care
// fellah

MikaelPersson
08-09-2002, 01:16 PM
Nice start, will be interesting to see this one evolve. Does your day have more than 24 hours? Looks like you are going to be strapped in front of the computer with all these different projects going on.

The only thing that bugged me was the part below his nose. To me it looks like it´s to far in. Maybe drag it outwards a tiny bit.

Rhid1en
08-09-2002, 06:17 PM
Your character is coming along awesome! The only thing that kind of is bothering me about him though is the flap of skin above his nose being so dominant. It’s a cool design, but I think if you’re going to go with the excess skin look you really should carry it thru the rest of the character design a little more. You’ve already done a nice job with it in the jowls; maybe add some under the eyes and some into the forehead? Looks really good though, can’t wait to see the rest of your piece!

fellah
08-09-2002, 07:37 PM
Mikael P: hehe, only 24hours last time I checked ;) I've had to put alot of them projects "on the shelf" right now.. must have a life out in the fine weather to :cool:
great crit to, I didn't notice myself.. I'll take care of it, thanks!

Rhid1en: yes you're totaly right! I will add more "flap" on his face until the next update for sure. I love 'em crits, thanks alot!

tubby
08-09-2002, 08:50 PM
hey fellah thats a great character and idea. love the style of your characters and the renders are always so beautiful. can't wait to see this one done!!

Jeffo
08-10-2002, 12:27 AM
fellah man, i've been checkin out alot of your posts, but never commented, should have a while ago, you got some really kick ass stuff man, i love your style, hugely talented in both the 2d and 3d realms, keep it up! :) cant wait to see it finished

lildragon
08-10-2002, 12:34 AM
Heya Fellah, do you have a website bud? I mean your characters always have such a wicked flare :) How do you manage to get your renders looking like that? I know it's probably you're lil secret :p but what's the general approach?

Anyhoo model is looking great, looking forward to the updates, not much to say right now that hasn't been mentioned, but I hope you finish this one

salud!

visualboo
08-10-2002, 04:21 AM
I second everything lil'd just said :)

Fetus23
08-10-2002, 09:09 AM
go go go!!! :wip:

Really great concept fellah!! :thumbsup: Can't wait to see this unfold. One crit so far would be the nose is a little long. But thats not really a crit, just an opinion....it dangles a bit much i think. Also, some light viens on the forehead might look nice...

more more more!!!! :wip:

fetus
:wavey:

fellah
08-10-2002, 09:34 AM
tubby: thanks alot!
Virtuoso: np, btw I won't update until you join! ;)
Jeffo: thanks alot jeffo, glad you finally commented :)
lildragon: thanks, sadly I have no time to finish my website yet, must learn flash.. might make a simple html page soon though.

about the renders, I'll make a short tutorial on how I lit this character and post it here in a couple of days, it's actually no secret. it's my special modeling process that is ;)
btw, hope to see you join this challenge(if you find the time) :wip:

visualboo: my toilet rival, thanks :)

Fetus23: I'll look over your crits there, much appreciated!

fellah
08-10-2002, 04:23 PM
tried to fix the things you pointed out on the head
(shortened the nose, added more 'flap' on forehead and under the eyes, reduced the flap over the nose, more details around eyes etc..)
started to work on the body to as you can see, please crit it pixel by pixel if you feel like :)
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondWIP3Body.jpg
btw, I'll try to take some time and write that rendering tutorial asap.

take care
// fellah

Wiz
08-10-2002, 04:34 PM
hmmmm the modeling is so awesome ,flaw less ,but as alien as he is ,the tits placing is just TOo wierd.... maybe u should chnage it? i am not sure.. but modeling is 100% amazing

Jeffo
08-10-2002, 04:36 PM
looking good, to be honest, the arms/shoulders look a little too big to me.. maybe make the bicep area a little thinner? could just be me tho!

good stuff so far tho dude

MikaelPersson
08-10-2002, 07:16 PM
I am not sure if I agree about misplaced tits. It´s kinda nice, but if you are going to keep them there make them more like their origin is way up. But they´ve fallen down with age. (typ, hängbröst.)
Yes, I agree with Jeffo. Those arms look little bit to large.

Lorenzo
08-10-2002, 07:39 PM
so funny character I can resist to put some comentary.
very nice concept and drawing. I like it a lot:applause: :thumbsup:

freemind77
08-10-2002, 08:11 PM
wow cool pilot , i like his misplaced tits and earing hole, but i think he is so much thin ? so he has middle body part too thin (maybe he could broke herself when he bend ) ? other tahn that great model :bounce:

fellah
08-10-2002, 11:45 PM
thanks for all the comments and crits, I'll take them close to my heart and try to improve the model until the next update.

might go with your idea about the long arms virtuoso dragging along the floor, really great idea :)

here's a closeup on his face. maybe you ppl will find something to crit there to. would be much appreciated :)
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_HeadCloseup.jpg

take care
// fellah

GlasS-
08-11-2002, 10:32 AM
Well, it looks nice this far, even though its just in the beginning..
Now for the crit...
I agree with other people about the arms and his, ehum, "hängbröst" :P
Perhaps adding some wrinkles in his face, he already seems abit old?

pabbloz
08-11-2002, 12:05 PM
One of the things I love is people with their own style... and Fellah is one of these for sure!!! :buttrock:
I really love see your new works,... really inspirational.

now... critics! (hin hin hin)

I would like you change the current neck for one more similar to the sketch: with more wrinkles (maybe you will need do it a bit larger).
And the chest I think it would be much better if you do the cuerve as in the sketch --> ) and with a lot of wrinkles too, similar to your pirate-challenge-turtle! :p

for last... a suggestion.... what about a more toxic skin color? (from green to yellow with purple-red-blue spots)


and... !!! the eyes zone are much better!! woow! :thumbsup:

wait me in the next update! ;)

Hasta la vista!

fellah
08-11-2002, 01:59 PM
GlasS-: hehehe, I'll try to fix the "hängbröst" and the arms, thanks alot!
pabbloz: grr, alot of cris you had there my friend ;) thanks though, I'll try to take care of them asap :wip:

I've been asked about how I achieve the look of my renders quite lot so I've been working on this tutorial for you all, hope you like it:
Render tutorial (http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/RenderTutorial/FellahsRenderTutorial.html)

take care
// fellah

Baal
08-11-2002, 04:33 PM
The whole concept is very original and I LOVE :love: that character, he's so funny I laughed alone the first time I saw him! Keep up the good work!

MikaelPersson
08-11-2002, 06:42 PM
Thank you for that tut. Always interesting to learn peoples tricks.
I do agree, post is very important.

tubby
08-11-2002, 08:31 PM
thanks fellah!! man, thats so cool of you to take the time to show us your setup. its definetly a worthy piece of info that i will personally tinker with and try and mimick. again, i appreciate you sharing these helpful tricks and your experience. oh, ive been watching your development of this challenge but every time i go to write something to crit i see that like 5 people already said it. i am personally a big fan of sagging man boobs and i think you should keep them, just adjust them to make it apparent that they are connected to the chest. i love the face and dont see anything wrong with it. great creativity, stlye and talent!:)

fellah
08-11-2002, 09:29 PM
Baal: that was a nice compliment, I love when my characters make someone else smile :)

Mikael P: thanks, I'm really glad you liked it :)

tubby: another one who liked it, thanks tuddy :) thanks for all the compliments to, much appreciated!


I've tried to fix all the things you pointed out to me before in this update. I don't wanna start the rest until I get this right so please crit away if you have the time.


http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondWIP4Body.jpg
the lower part of the stomach needs more work on the flap, that I know :)

I'm also planning to integrate the toilet into his body so that it will be his "wings\legs", what do you think about that, yes, no?

take care
// fellah

freemind77
08-11-2002, 10:30 PM
Hehehe funniest and craziest character seen here on forums , hehe toilet as part of his body would be extremly cool , do it!:bounce:

edit

crit : i dont like so much positions of his shoulders , i think should not be so back ? maybe only my pow :)

edit


GREAT char !!!! :bounce:

pabbloz
08-11-2002, 10:55 PM
Hi Fellah! I'm here again! I hope not become in your nightmare... just I try help you but with my personal taste... wich maybe is not the yours ;)

so here is my critic... I just tried to retouch in photoshop doing it shorter, a bit more curved and the belly buttom and the nipples are upper:

pabbloz
08-11-2002, 10:58 PM
each time I like more the sketch!! really funny! :applause: :D and you're doing a great job.. that's why I suggest you another option for the legs-toilet problem:

why not you do the toilet with two holes for the legs? like a really useful ship.. he will be complete (with legs) and it will be easy to use the toilet :)

(this is a rought sketch... I'm not totitch but I think you will understand it :D )

Clondike7
08-12-2002, 12:48 AM
WOW, awesome
here's my crit:
is this gonna be a female character? cause if it is i think the boobs are too firm, they should sag and flap. and the nipples are too sharp, u can poke someones eye out with those!

Aside from that it looks amazing! Wish I could model a character like that.:hmm:

visualboo
08-12-2002, 04:02 AM
mad skills I tell you..... mad :buttrock:

fellah
08-12-2002, 07:33 AM
sorry for not replying earlier, I feelt to sleep almost right after posting!

freemind77: thanks alot, glad you like it, I'll look inte the crit there but I guess it's just the angle ;)

pabbloz: I'm glad I did feel to sleep before I reed your post though, elseway I would probably have dreamt nightmares about you.. grr.. ;)
no seriously, thanks alot for taking your time to help! I like the way you shortened the body and the way you fixed the neck, but the tits are to high there, no?
and the toilet idea is really cool, I think I'll go for that (grr.. I thought I wouldn't have to model his legs and feets with my latest 'intergration idea'.. ;) )


Clondike7:
is this gonna be a female character? hehehe, no a male ;) but you'r right about the tits and nipples being to stiff.. hmm.. I'll look into that, thanks!

visualboo: :wip:

pit
08-12-2002, 07:57 AM
Ever thought about attaching some small wheels to the toilet? So u could stick to your integrated version and the poor dude could move on land too. Anyway - awesome work as always :buttrock: Last but not least: Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge in the tutorial!! Amazing that u find the time!

MikaelPersson
08-12-2002, 01:05 PM
I like the evolution. In my opinion you should keep your placement of his breasts. But you should show that they have traveled downwards during his years.

What is your thought about the line between his back and front? Interesting touch, would just be fun to hear your explanation.

fellah
08-12-2002, 02:05 PM
pit: thanks for the advice about the toilet, I'm sketching on a new toilet right now(one that will be _much faster_ then visualboo's ;) )
also thanks for taking the time to tell me you liked the tutorial, maybe that that sleepless day brought something good to some ppl :)

Mikael P: thanks for following the progress and making good crits!
I guess I'll have to make a search of "hängbröst"(eng: old hanging breasts) to see how they really look like :)
btw, which line between the back and front do you mean? :curious: I tried to figure out which one you meant but without success.

freemind77
08-12-2002, 03:17 PM
Yes i was sure angle , dont make my words too high it was just me , i like it sooooo :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

visualboo
08-12-2002, 03:27 PM
I agree with Mikael about making them look like there sagging. Dont move them, just make them droop down a bit.

rizob
08-12-2002, 05:11 PM
fellah let me start off by saying, you are blazing through this comp, with style from sketch to final concept, this charachter has charisma. i would add some saggging to the arms, and show more of a skelatal structure, i would also slim the hands down alittle, they are alittle chunky, about the boobs, ilike your placement but i would make them drooping from alittle higher on the chest,

anyway your kicken some ass, keep it up

MikaelPersson
08-12-2002, 07:55 PM
I was wondering about this line:

http://home.swipnet.se/hvaetaen/temp/fellahlinje.jpg

There is a distinct break in the shading there.

fellah
08-12-2002, 08:53 PM
freemind77: hehe, well I was just kidding about the angle ;) you where actually right, I've fixed it now, thanks :)

visualboo: yes you guys are totally right about the breasts. I'm trying to fix it as well as I can, thanks once again!


rizob: thanks alot mate, your model for this challenge is actually one of my favs as you might now! :)
I'll try to take care of the things you mentioned as well as I can :wip:

Mikael P: a-ha, you meant that "thing".. well, usually it shouldn't be a so drastic line there, it should be done in the texturing I think.. but since no textures are allowed I had to model it that way. elseway it would have looked weird(as you can see in the update previous to that one) and that's why it turned out that way :)

OZ
08-12-2002, 09:22 PM
Still my hero!.....cant wait to see more updates!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Aearon
08-12-2002, 09:27 PM
mh fellah, i agree with mikael p., you should fix that line, from the front it looks like a jacket on the upper part of the body, very confusing and distracting

also it just looks out of place because your model is so smooth except for this very line

other than that: great work, i like the proportions - that's just personal preference of course, just do it the way you like as long as you keep the model on this high level

oh did i mention that i love all those warts / nipples ? :D

oh now that i look at those i notice another small error around the tip of his nose, there's a lil seam i think which makes it look kinda rectangular

fellah
08-13-2002, 11:24 AM
oz: hehehe, thanks ;)

fist:hey there fist, yes I tweaked the line between the 2 skinTypes now, thanks for the feedback your contrinution is one of my favs for this challenge as you already know!

Virtuoso:
thanks alot! and yes, I hope you enter soon! but don't enter if you ain't ready, take it easy, nu hurry yet :wip: ;)


tried to fix the breasts, the line between the 2 skinTypes, the hands etc.. it's actually alot of work although it's probably getting harder and harder to see all the small fixes..
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondWIP5Body.jpg
I think I will leave him as he is right now, start the toilet, and then get back to him when the toilet is finished.
but you can still crit him if you feel like, I'll add the crits to my brain and fix it when the toilet is done.

here's the new toiletConcept:
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/NewToiletConcept.gif
btw pabbloz, I thought about your idea _alot_ but I don't think I wanna give him any legs, rather make this machine his prosthetic part for the legs.

take care
// fellah

erilaz
08-13-2002, 11:32 AM
It keeps staring at me...make it stop!!.:surprised

Hey fellah, have you ever thought of doing concept work for Jim Henson's Creature Shop? Your characters are stunning!:eek:

Oh and thanks for your comments. They helped me focus!
:D

Keep it coming, the chair is looking good. Maybe you could have a pipe that uses that "un-useful" gas for making balloon animals for kids!:wip:

fellah
08-13-2002, 11:35 AM
thanks erilaz!
Maybe you could have a pipe that uses that "un-useful" gas for making balloon animals for kids!
lmao! :D maybe, maybe ;)

sherban
08-13-2002, 12:28 PM
Bob Oblong would be proud :p

fellah
08-13-2002, 12:53 PM
hohoho :D I didn't know what you meant so I tried to find "bob orlong" on the net, hoho that seams to be one crazy show ;)
http://detnews.com/2001/entertainment/0103/30/c01-205794.htm

Wiz
08-13-2002, 01:08 PM
hehe i like most the mom shes too funny

swag
08-13-2002, 01:23 PM
oh my god - what can i say gogogo - the vacuum pump in the front will be a great fun for him :)

Aearon
08-13-2002, 02:29 PM
lol, that's so hilarious

i laughed my guts out when i read "input1" & "input2" on that concept :)

i can't wait to see you translate that into a model, and i have all the confidence that you'll make it work in 3d as well after seeing your character :D

thanks for the compliments, they really mean something from such a great artist :rolleyes:

Ragnakim
08-13-2002, 02:51 PM
WOW!!! Your character modeling is great!!!! :eek: Very expressive. hehehe LOVE IT!!! :D Congrats man!!

Baal
08-13-2002, 03:50 PM
The character is great and very impressive, especially with all the little details you put in it. And the toilet concept is hilarious! Can't wait to see it modeled! Keep goin'!

Tennis
08-13-2002, 03:53 PM
hey!, missed this thread, why didn't you PM me about it :annoyed: ;) heh

looks really nice, i like his weird look, can¨t wait to see how this one turns out.
you're pretty busy at the moment with the above&beyond and space duck, dont you ever sleep ? :)

visualboo
08-13-2002, 04:13 PM
hahahahaha lmao. The inputs are hilarious.

URI::G
08-13-2002, 09:36 PM
This is wicked! Especially his ears. Awesome.

fellah
08-14-2002, 08:50 AM
hey!, missed this thread, why didn't you PM me about it hehehe ;)
you're pretty busy at the moment with the above&beyond and space duck, dont you ever sleep ?
nope :)


I got _really_ busy yesterday, I won't have the time to hang around here in about 3days now..
thanks for all the kind words so far it's _much_ appreciated :thumbsup:

see you later
// fellah

mebamonster
08-14-2002, 03:36 PM
awesome! MOre! MOre!! Those are great! I'm sure I've said it before....but you are a very talented individual and your work oozes style! I can't wait to see this piece finished! You are simply amazing.

DimitrisLiatsos
08-14-2002, 04:11 PM
:bounce:
Man, except the great style u also have great sence of humour. I like your flying machine and the pilot.
:thumbsup: :wavey:

fellah
08-16-2002, 07:56 PM
thanks alot for the encouregment! :thumbsup:

here's a little update:
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondWIP6PoseTest.jpg

work work work :wip:

bigB
08-16-2002, 08:00 PM
nice one where he is is in is nose......:thumbsup:

visualboo
08-16-2002, 08:30 PM
Awsome fellah.... already posin huh? I gotta get crackin :)

Nice goggles, they rock!

fellah
08-16-2002, 08:38 PM
bigB: hehe thanks, that's actually the only one I like of the 2. but I didn't wanna post just 1 pose ;)

visualboo: hehe, thanks! I've modeled 14-16hours every day for 3days now(on another thing that came up) so I just wanted to do some simple modeling and test a little posing instead of starting with the toilet.. (which is the next thing to do now)

yes, time for you to work work work :wip:

freemind77
08-16-2002, 08:38 PM
awesome :thumbsup: I like his personality so much.what about to give him some earing ?

tubby
08-16-2002, 08:40 PM
yah!! man i love your work!! damn that character really looks good.:) :insane:

fellah
08-16-2002, 08:42 PM
freemind: what about to give him some earing
oh oh oh, I completely forgot! :) I will, for the next update, I will.. thanks for the reminder! :)

tubby: thanks _alot_ tubby, nice to hear you like it :)

Aearon
08-16-2002, 09:15 PM
woohoo, fellah is back

give us some updates :wip:

working on my char over the weekend btw :D

Baal
08-16-2002, 10:18 PM
:drool:

fellah
08-17-2002, 08:35 AM
fist: hihi, thanks :) and yea, bring us a character for your vehicle, now!!! :wip:

Baal: drooling over a guy like that? yuck.. :)

gonna take this day to model the toilet, so stay tuned for more :)

mebamonster
08-17-2002, 08:42 AM
Looking awesome! If you plan on using the nose picking pose though, you should try to fix the shoulder envelope a bit. Right now it seems to have a crease in it. However, this may just be intentional...or just a test...or I could simply be crazy...
Either way, I like the nose-picking pose a lot and I think your work is coming along splendidly!!! Can't wait to see the rest!
Keep up the awesome work!

Fetus23
08-17-2002, 09:48 AM
Hi ho fellah!!

Your fying tolilet pilot is looking mighty nice.... :thumbsup: but i think a jacket of some kind (sleevless) would add alot. And when is that webpage coming???

fetus

visualboo
08-17-2002, 02:42 PM
Where ya at with the toilet so far? :D

update update update! keep rockin :buttrock:

fellah
08-17-2002, 03:33 PM
mebamonster:
yes you're right about the deformation on the shoulders. but I only slapped a VERY simple bone structure onto the model without any weights, ik anything.. took me about 5min ;) just to test some poses and have fun :)

Fetus23:
yes, a jacket! I've been working on the jacket today, thanks to your tip :thumbsup:
I'm working on the website, I'm almost done with the interface on all the sections.. then I have to relearn flash to.. but probably in 2weeks it will be ready :wip:

visualboo:
hahaha, I'm glad you ain't my boss ;)
I haven't started the toilet yet. I'm in progress of making a jacket for him, but I'll start the toilet really sooooon.

thanks alot for all the feedback!

visualboo
08-17-2002, 03:54 PM
hahahaha lol...

gonna take this day to model the toilet, so stay tuned for more

:cool:

fellah
08-17-2002, 03:57 PM
lol :D

:wip: :wip: :wip:

Lorenzo
08-18-2002, 02:49 PM
:bounce:
a love his finger in his nose, very funny pose

etHaan
08-18-2002, 05:41 PM
as usual good concept, good work... nothing to criticize.

i hate you :)

mebamonster
08-21-2002, 02:48 PM
more! I want to see more!:wip:

fellah
08-21-2002, 04:20 PM
thanks alot for the feedback and pushing! I didn't wanna bump this thread up before, that's why I haven't replied earlier but now when it's at the top I guess I can answer you :)
I'm currently working on my website(which is almost done, yippie!) but I'll soon start on this project again, so stay tunned :)

Virtuoso
08-22-2002, 04:43 AM
Looking forward to the new site of your's Fellah. And of course this current project.

I have a suggestion.................Knowing the source of power behind your ha-hum.........."Vessel"...........;) .........I was thinking you need an extra "Prop"...........that extra kind of prop that will take both your creation and your vessel over the top. How about creating a backpack for your character or a extra attachment somewhere in the scene that will hold the "ALL IMPORTANT" "PROP"............And the prop should be "A CAN OF BEANS" or a few of them. The true item most important to your character for getting what is most important to him flight. Those beans will be the real push he needs for flight, if you get what I mean..............:D

Anyways have fun, I am looking forward to more of your art.............I have got to get back to my own lab and get to work...........See you soon..............:beer: :)

pit
08-22-2002, 07:04 AM
Hi Fellah - very cool character!:buttrock: IMO the arms need a little more definition/detail - compared to the rest they seem a little unfinished. Waiting for that visualbookillertoilet -> UPDATE!

fellah
08-22-2002, 10:15 AM
Virtuoso: wohooo, thanks a ton! that's a great idea, a can of beans :D
I will try to find a place to attach it. probably not a backpack as he will be leaning with his back to the "vessel". but I'll find a place for it ;) thanks!


pit: I will try to take care of the arms in the end if I find the time, thanks alot! :)

if anyone got more ideas for the "vessel", please tell me. I need them :)

:wavey:

Phrank
08-22-2002, 01:11 PM
I like both poses: you should mirror one of them, so that it looks like if he pulls something out of his nose and then in the second pic flicks it away :D
Great funny Work :thumbsup:

CactusJack
08-22-2002, 03:28 PM
cant believe it took me this long to stumble upon this post...very cool concept and awsome job modeling...your my daddy...hehe...:thumbsup:

OZ
08-22-2002, 03:43 PM
:bounce: WOW! is true incredible how good ur work are.......bwaaa haaaa (tears of joy).:thumbsup:

fellah
08-22-2002, 09:49 PM
Phrank: hahah :D great idea! I will try it, but after the challenge ends.
you'll be able to see more of this guy on my site which will be launched before the end of this weekend(it's actually done, just have to get the webSpace from a pal)

CactusJack: hehe, glad you finally found it my son ;)

-OZ-wohoo, oz glad to see you're back from the vacation, hope you had a nice time!

a little update(it was a while ago!)
still alot to add but the basic shape is there:
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondToilet1.jpg
btw, I'm having a hard time to find a place for the beans, anyone got an idea where I should place them?

take care
// fellah

mebamonster
08-22-2002, 10:10 PM
BUAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!! That toilet's awesome!! I can just picture your character sitting in it right now! Hee hee! That just makes me laugh! I wish I could come up with a place for the beans...but I am stumped at the moment. I will contemplate some more and see if I can't come up with something. Great work again fellah! Keep us posted!

visualboo
08-22-2002, 10:23 PM
hahaahahaha.... I love you fellah :D j/k

That toilet is bitchin :buttrock:

[edit] I'm kinda scared to see what kinda mixture goes in that glass bowl. :curious:

CactusJack
08-22-2002, 10:54 PM
What about putting a small water tank on the back...like most toilets have...leave off the lid...and pack it with beans!

:bounce:

I think I smell something good comin our way....hehe!

visualboo
08-22-2002, 11:18 PM
DAMN YOU!!! I WANT THAT IDEA :D :D

fellah
08-22-2002, 11:27 PM
mebamonster: thanks for the kind words, I'm really glad it makes you laugh, that's a big compliment! :)

visualboo: hahah :D

CactusJack: wohooooo! thanks for the idea, that's really great! if noone else comes up with a better idea, I'll go for it with 100% tomorrow, thanks alot!

visualboo: badluck :cool:

Ingram
08-23-2002, 02:17 AM
I think a good place for the beans are in a can firmly in the pilot's hand. Fork/Spoon in the other hand. After all he doesn't want to run out of "fuel".

Great idea Fellah and beautifully (if you consider a flying toilet beautiful and I do) executed.
:applause:

CactusJack
08-23-2002, 02:50 AM
I'd have to agree with Ingram, although if you go with his idea, you need to smear some beans around the mouth of your character...make it look all messy like...:thumbsup:

fellah
08-23-2002, 09:29 AM
thanks for the ideas guys!
I think I'll try and mix the ideas as I like them both very much. I'll put a water tank with beans on the toilet which will serve like a buffer(maybe with 'cans of beans' instead of just 'beans') and then put a can of beans in one of his hands.

thanks :thumbsup:

Virtuoso
08-23-2002, 11:25 AM
Wow ..............I mentioned beans as a great source for fuel for this praticular creation of yours Fellah and well the whole thread has gone the way of the "BEAN" since.........;) :)

OK I will give you permission to call the beans........."Virtuoso beans, sure to help all flights get off the ground", that would be a nice sticker on the can............................. :beer: :);)

leigh
08-23-2002, 11:42 AM
Hejsan Fellah - MYCKET MYCKET ROLIG OCH COOL!!!! :applause:
As usual, your stuff is turning out absolutely wonderfully, this concept is incredible, and what you have made so far is beyond fantastic!
I love the toilet particularly :D

Hålla uppe din fantastiska konstverk! Jag så älskar din stil :thumbsup:

MikaelPersson
08-23-2002, 11:57 AM
I didn´t see that transparent bowl until now. [Brrr] I wonder what you are going to do with it. Nice porcelain shader on that toilet.

pabbloz
08-23-2002, 12:06 PM
wow wow wow!
That's a GREAT update! this toilet looks awesome! :thumbsup:
- I really like the reflective material you've used and the main shape is awesome! it really seems confortable! :p
- The glass-plastic material of the tube and the bowl are very very nice too. (what about toxic green residues inside, like in "my" PA-Character :hmm: )
- I love the brown touch you add :love: (lovely post-production!)
- I think the bean mix idea is the best one! go on with it!
- I would like suggest something, but for the moment is more perfect than my mind could suggest! :thumbsup:

fellah
08-23-2002, 02:26 PM
Virtuoso:
Virtuoso beans, sure to help all flights get off the ground
lol! maybe, maybe ;)

Leigh:
hey thanks leigh, really appreciated! btw, your swedish is still pretty good, sommartider hej hej sommar.. :)

Mikael P:
thanks mikael!
I wonder what you are going to do with it
hah, don't even think about it :D

pabbloz:
thanks my friend! something will reside in the "goldfish bowl", but it won't be green :)

Aearon
08-23-2002, 02:48 PM
awesome fellah :thumbsup:

everything looks great, the model and also the porcelain shader as mikael already said

i think the only problem is the transparent material, you should use different ones for the hose / bowl, because at the moment they look the same and they also seem "too transparent", you can change that by putting a stronger highlight on both, though it should be smoother on the hose (ideally there should be a fairy bright and very long highlight, stretching across the length of the hose) and a sharper one on the glass(?) bowl.

i think ... :D

visualboo
08-23-2002, 03:05 PM
I don't know, I really like those shaders. They're not really realistic but they fit the piece perfectly.

My vote is to keep them :thumbsup:

pabbloz
08-23-2002, 03:09 PM
me too! :thumbsup:

Aearon
08-23-2002, 05:33 PM
yeah i like em too (style-wise), but i think they look too flat as they are, so that could be improved

fellah
08-23-2002, 06:08 PM
yes, a little more highlight on the glassMaterial might be nice, I'll try to add a tiny bit of refraction to and see how it looks. thanks for the ideas! :)

Zardoz
08-23-2002, 08:22 PM
I like your concept a lot and your modelling is very cool!
your fart-mobile-ship is great! And the farter too!

Totitch
08-23-2002, 08:40 PM
Big big work you did there! :eek:
A very very impressive stuff!
Super hyper fun!!!:D
This is one of the best characters of this challenge!
And great Closet-ship too! (The same where we lock up you) :applause:
Rest a lot of work on it!
Do you think you will have the time to finish it? :applause:


:) ...

fellah
08-24-2002, 09:08 PM
Zardoz: "farter" hahah, thanks :)

totitch: hey there, long time no see! are you still working over at 'MCDonalds'? I've heard you might be promoted to work over at 'BurgerKing' if you keep working as good as you're right now, I wish you all the luck, and thanks :)

little update again,
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Toilet_Render4.jpg
ideas\crits are much appreciated at this stage. the "liquid material" is temporary..

Aearon
08-24-2002, 09:12 PM
yeehaw, awesome :thumbsup:

this will be such a perfect & polished piece in the end

the shaders are great now, and the modeling is flawless, keep going :D

mv
08-24-2002, 09:49 PM
The water looks awesome; that's really good Fellah:thumbsup:
pojken, duska inte frata ;)

pabbloz
08-24-2002, 10:01 PM
that's really GREAT and FUNNY !!! :thumbsup:

you already know what I think! ;)
all is much better! and the features are very very nice!

note: really waiting the next update! :D

mebamonster
08-24-2002, 10:28 PM
Looking awesome Fellah! However, the bean holder does not yet convince me. Perhaps simply smoothing it out a bit more to make it look like the rest of the contraption will do the trick. Either that, or hang a 6-pack of bean cans held together with the plastic soda rings in place of the present bean compartment. Don't know if that made any sense. Just a thought..

Virtuoso
08-24-2002, 10:42 PM
Looking really polished.............I look at the bean cup holder and the large bean holding contraption in the back and I wonder what monster I have let loose when I mentioned beans to you...........I think the devices are very good ideas.

Fellah I think you will still have to show that they are beans, some kind of packet or despenser that says beans on it to show they are in fact beans.........They could be mistaken for something else if not indicated.

Nice overall piece of art...........I never did think such an idea could actually turn out to be art, funny yes,............But somehow it's funny and has a lot of personality,plus the work is clean. Keep up the good work...............:thumbsup: :)

visualboo
08-24-2002, 11:31 PM
HAHAHAHAHA, that's awsome fellah. I love it. That water (fluid in bottom tank) totally rocks. ooh oh and that glass shader you have..... very good.

I haven't progressed with my toilet cause I think the model itself doesn't really have that much style, you know like it's to plain looking.... oh well. You still rock man.

btw, I like the actual model better than the concept. Keep rockin :buttrock:


Bastard :D

Fetus23
08-25-2002, 01:12 AM
truley you are amazing!!! :)

That toilet is looking really good fellah :thumbsup:, its so custom fit. Must be very comfortable and relaxing for your pilot to do his business. Unless of course he eats too much cheese (his mortal enemy?) ;) No crits right now, I love the shaders and im wondering how you did the bubbly water in the tank...its very nice.

model onward!!!

fetus

Virtuoso
08-25-2002, 03:59 AM
Fellah................ I have a twisted idea.........:twisted:


We now know how your mighty toilet will achieve flight and the proper propulsion, beans within the depensers will be just the ticket. But...................What about the brakes, what will stop this very explosive vessel[toilet]...............

Answer...............Despensers full of ..........

http://www.crappersquarterly.com/images/store/beano.jpg

or

http://www.crappersquarterly.com/images/store/gasx.jpg

Well something has to stop or slow down that speeding toilet........................Have fun, I know you will........:beer: :)

visualboo
08-25-2002, 05:36 AM
HAHAHHA.... Brakes! Brakes! We don't need no stinking brakes!

Good idea Virtuoso :thumbsup:

pabbloz
08-25-2002, 07:39 AM
for my way I though too in other option, maybe a simple coke (http://cs1.cs.nyu.edu/ms_students/crp/coke.jpg)!! :)

Now the gas is throw by the mouth, so the vehicle stops! but of course he needs this (http://www.musitelli.com/fotos/avenger/megafono.jpg) !!!

:D :D ! :thumbsup: you can choose now!

fellah
08-25-2002, 09:11 AM
fist: thanks fist, much appreciated words coming from you!
m@: hehe, thanks ;)

pabbloz:
note: really waiting the next update!
hahaha, schh.. it's a secret :D

mebamonster: totalt right, I will fix the beanHolder. thanks for the input and the ideas, much appreciated!

Virtuoso: haha, everything is your fault, look what you've done! ;)
yes, I might add little texture(or model some text) to show it's infact beans!

visualboo: wohooho, glad you like it bastard!

Fetus23: hey thanks alot fetus! I will explain shortly how I did the water and the bubbles later today. right now I just woke up from a good sleep.

virtuoso(again):hahahahahaha, wohohoho! what's that, "beano"!? :D I will add it, definately thanks!

pabbloz(again): hey, you already gave me sooooo many good ideas yesterday. even more now? :)

btw, when I'm at it. I just launched MY SITE (http://www.3dgrafik.com/fellah)just a basic one right now, much more to come..

thanks again to you all!

MikaelPersson
08-25-2002, 10:12 AM
Looking great. I really like the shaders you´ve achieved. Nice site btw (inspired by the rest of your friends? ;))

OZ
08-25-2002, 11:58 AM
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! THE SITE!!! T H E S I T E ! .................................:love:

fellah
08-25-2002, 07:10 PM
mikael P: glad you liked it, yes they pushed me alot to :)
oz: hey man, glad you liked it, really glad!

no big update, this is mainly a dedication.. ;)
http://slt.ath.cx/~fellah/AndB/Fellah_AndBeyondToilet2.jpg
I think I will start making the 'PeeGun' now! ;) then I'll add the rest of the small things(beans etc..) along the way..

prayas
08-25-2002, 08:09 PM
A W E S O M E

That toiletttttt is goin to rock with every update. Love to see the character on it? In it? Do it.

pabbloz
08-25-2002, 09:00 PM
Huaahahaha!! :applause: totitch is a bastard!! yeah! I'm agree with you! hin hin hin :thumbsup: (btw stipen too.. )
hey! really good the flag in that wood stick :) Viking fellah!

and I think the button on the "left arm of the toilet" it's great! cool detail! you also can add now a joystick like the old machines (example (http://www.gatorcade.com/joystick.jpg))

I'm really waiting to see the pilot on the vehicle! :)

mv
08-25-2002, 09:18 PM
great,great... site looking good too.. btw, you use LW?
keep it up, can't wait to see your stylish guy on his stylish spacecraft.
And I'd like to see it under another angle!

Totitch
08-25-2002, 10:21 PM
Wow! Good job Fellah, My Friend! Hinhinhin...You fear now?!? :annoyed:

I told you...it's not good to play with stronger than you...:D
The beast woke up now...Hard to stop!!!

Here is my Bastard answer! :D

For Fellah the biggest bastard the world ever saw! (http://mapage.noos.fr/totitch/AnswerToMrFellah!!!.gif)

:D

(Ohh...And Pabbloz...i don't forget you...Just wait a little...Stipen will help me! Just a question of time...:D )

fellah
08-25-2002, 10:30 PM
prayas: thanks, he will be sitting ;)


pabbloz: haha, yes they're both bastards!!! :annoyed:
I've thought about the joystick, but as you know fist has one.. but this one dosen't look like his so.. we'll see..

m@: thanks mate, yep I use lightwave.. I will post different camera angles soon with the guy riding the toilet.


Totitch: hah, I will make my revenge.. ;)
btw, nice to see you doing some 2d on your spare time from MCDonalds..
I heard stipen has started on burgerKing.. hey, you have to work hard to be as good as him!
and btw, don't lie about your job in your profile\website.. it won't lead you anywhere.. you shouldn't be ashamme of yourself ;)

thanks all :wavey:

MikaelPersson
08-25-2002, 11:14 PM
This is just getting better and better. I do demand an animation of him when you´re finished.

fellah
08-25-2002, 11:18 PM
hey, thanks mikael!
I will probably make a little animation.. it probably won't be so hard as I didn't gave him any legs ;) but it will be done after the challenge, thanks :)

mebamonster
08-26-2002, 12:43 AM
Hee hee. This thread always makes me laugh. You site is looking awesome (no real surprise there though). Did I hear you mention a pee gun? Hee hee. Talk about using natural resources! I want to see more! Keep it up fellah!

Tennis
08-26-2002, 02:22 AM
LOL! that looks awesome fellah :thumbsup:
even though its lightwave it really looks good ;) hehe
now, hurry! get the guy to operate this flying wonder :D

DimitrisLiatsos
08-26-2002, 08:23 AM
:bounce:

Hey Fellah...it is going great...the only thing was already said(..about beenholder), just increase there a little bit the smoothing.


Hey ...by the way ..great looking site :thumbsup:

Post some more angles...i want to see more of your water shader!

stipen
08-26-2002, 08:39 AM
Hey fellah !!! this is Bas...euhhh....Brillant !!!

I have 2 questions tho':

1. what if the flush doesn't work ????
2.Is it 3D, or is it a photography of your own reel toilet ??? (means: great modelling and awesome shaders:thumbsup: )

And yeah "some more angles !!!!!!!!!!!!)

OZ
08-26-2002, 10:24 AM
Totitch,fellah..HA HA HA HA U ARE CRAZY!!!HA HA HA HA
:bounce: ................ok,back to comment the model.................This is one of the most sweet designed object i ever seen...the colours ar perfect as ever ......is incredible how sharp and soft edges blends........is ur style....is perfect...is fellah.:applause:

leigh
08-26-2002, 01:30 PM
HAHAHAHA!!
That's excellent Fellah!!
I love the Totich is a Bastard sign - :scream:
You have such a cool sense of humour - this piece is truly wonderful and such an inspiration to us all :D
Such splendid work - you Swedes rule!

Sommartider hej hej sommartider! :cool:

Totitch
08-26-2002, 01:50 PM
Thanks Leigh! :annoyed: :annoyed: :D :D (Maybe you want a sketch like i did for Fellah, but with you?!?:twisted: )

leigh
08-26-2002, 02:47 PM
Okay! :D
:twisted:

Cardwell
08-26-2002, 07:59 PM
looks great bud.
textures help it out a lot
would apreciate a crit on mine
:applause:
Above & Beyond

fellah
08-27-2002, 12:30 AM
thanks alot for all the feedback!

Did I hear you mention a pee gun? yup ;)

DimitrisLiatsos, I will probbaly take away the beanHolder and add controls there instead, we'll see..

1. what if the flush doesn't work ????
hm.. then he will die :sad:

Totitch,fellah..HA HA HA HA U ARE CRAZY!!!
no, only totitch! (and stipen... hinhin ;) )

more angles are coming in the next update, promise.. I took some time to make a good rig today, so I'll start posing and tweaking soon.. I've also started to design his future peeGun, wohoo!


sommartider hej hej :cool:
// fellah

Apt Pupil
08-27-2002, 03:50 AM
Fantastic work there Fellah. The textures and choice of colors are superb, and the figure is going to be something astouding I am sure (once it's comfortably seated on the toilet:p)

I am looking forward to your next update. Othewise, Darn it, Good job!!:wavey: :thumbsup:

CactusJack
08-27-2002, 04:50 AM
Show

:bounce:

us

:bounce:

more

:bounce:

Pwease!

:bounce:

rizob
08-27-2002, 10:04 PM
whats up fellah i dont know if i droped a crit yet, but i dont think you need it, simply stunning, with the addition of a pee gun the models gonna be top notch, nice web stuff by the way, lets see some more man, you may have this won in the bag

DimitrisLiatsos
08-28-2002, 11:46 AM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Man when u finish this piece , u definitely must post a big nice shot so i can have a brand NEW WALLPAPER on my screen...

:wavey:

CactusJack
08-31-2002, 04:49 AM
waiting....:beer:

fellah
08-31-2002, 09:57 AM
thanks alot guys, your comments really push me to finish this piece before the deadline!
DimitrisLiatsos, I'll try to make one for you if I can :)

look's like my last post got lost during during the serverCrash when I slept. so here it's again(added another view to)
I'll start to make some faceExpresions today and try to finish of the peeGun and make more(better) poses.. and then last add\fix what needs to be fixed..
I'll try to make a better render in the end to..

take care
// fellah

image:

Aearon
08-31-2002, 10:06 AM
niiice fellah :D

great sense of mass, it really feels like he's sitting there and grabbing the toilet

only crit is those hard creases on the fingers

awesome :thumbsup:

MikaelPersson
08-31-2002, 10:44 AM
Looking good. As fist said, great sense of weight. He really is holding that part of the toilet tightly, nice. One thing that struck me was the ear-rings. Should they not be hanging from the bottom of the hole. Right now it looks just like they are in the centre of the hole. (nitpicking I know) They were a nice touch anyway.

fellah
08-31-2002, 01:45 PM
fist, you're right. I'll model the nuckles better really soon and see that they get deformed right, thanks :thumbsup:

mikael, yes. I didn't notice the earRings prob, the "topLeft" render in that update didn't have the prob.. probably some "follower" error I didn't see yesterday. thanks!

urgh, I didn't like the last update myself actually.. here's a new one with some basic color applied. I also removed the "pilotHat" and the jacket to make him look more like a "crazy naked guy on a toilet" then a "toiletPirate".
also tried a very simple expression..

still some deformation errors, but I haven't made any weightMaps yet,
image:

Aearon
08-31-2002, 02:09 PM
wow i like that two-color idea, looks very nice - but i think the contrast between the colors is too much, it's a bit distracting - the area that's white right now should have the hue of the rest, but a lil' brighter or darker or whatever ;)

*edit*
oh and i LOVED that jacked, i agree in that he looks even crazier naked, but the jacket OWNED

MikaelPersson
08-31-2002, 02:13 PM
Yes, I agree with fist. My other thought was his chin, I think it should be in the other colour. It is rather hard to read the image now when the chin is whiteish.

fellah
08-31-2002, 02:19 PM
fist, agree. will be fixed :)
hm, I might try the jacket again.. at least in some poses maybe, thanks :)

mikael, hm.. I actually like the chin being white to.. but I see what you mean.. I'll see what I can do about it :)

cheers
// fellah

DimitrisLiatsos
08-31-2002, 02:22 PM
Man...what can i say...we are suppose to suggest something, but now the only thing that i have to say is ...HIS IS SO COOL IN HIS VESSEL:bounce:
:thumbsup:

visualboo
08-31-2002, 07:37 PM
:buttrock: :airguitar :buttrock:
Rock on fellah

I'm putting you into a trance now.......
You will download MSN messenger............
when I snap my fingers, you will remember nothing that I just said

*snap*

mv
08-31-2002, 07:47 PM
yeah:bounce:

Apt Pupil
08-31-2002, 09:13 PM
Hey there fellah, I love this little guy:) It's very original and the style is fantastic. However . . . the white highlights/glows seems kind of wierd. White highlights are usually associated with something angelic, and well . . he's 'not.' I was kind of expecting alot of putrid greens, browns, and blacks for either highlights or background colors (like you had with your previous posts) and mabye, maybe you could also include some waste or fungus (thread like) dripping from the bottom of his uhhhmmm, vehicle. Other than that, hey, how about a bat in one of his hands, grouch = grumpy = bat/club heheheh. Just an idea :p

Keep up the great work :beer:

I wanna see more!!:thumbsup:

pabbloz
08-31-2002, 10:50 PM
Great job little bastard fellah! :thumbsup:

I'm agree with the general opinion (too much contrast...) but it's very great. I think you have yet some cool days for search the final pic so open your mind to some new and more toxic colors or different poses (I suggest you a more side camera view to see a little the back part of the toilet).

btw.. the jacket is really amazing! :p

waiting for new options! ;)

fellah
08-31-2002, 11:11 PM
thanks you guys (and pabbloz! ;) )

Apt Pupil:
thanks alot for all the great ideas\crits! I don't know if I'm gonna model all the dripping fungus. but I'll include it after the challenge. I think I need some texture tricks there to make it look good(and not killing myself modeling it! :) )
agree with the white highlights and the colors.. will change it! and the bat, YES! I had in plan of giving him a little(very simple) mascot. now I know what it's gonna be, yippie!

Virtuoso:
I'll have a little surprise for you in the next update ;)

pabboz:
yes, I will make alot of poses and different camera angles before the deadline.. and compose the best ones into one final image. glad you liked the jacket to, I might include it in some poses, don't know..

visualboo:
hahaha, I didn't see your hidden msg until 5sec before I was ready to push the "submit reply" button, great one :D

DimitrisLiatsos && m@, thanks alot guys :thumbsup:

visualboo
08-31-2002, 11:50 PM
I don't know if I'm gonna model all the dripping fungus. but I'll include it after the challenge. I think I need some texture tricks there to make it look good(and not killing myself modeling it!
Email ambassador and get some HyperVoxal Sprite action goin :bounce:

lildragon
09-01-2002, 03:35 PM
Awesome work as usual fellah, and man that render is ace!!, so when are we going get that tut huh? ;)

Digging the site btw, it's about time :p

salud!

fellah
09-01-2002, 04:36 PM
visualboo, yes hypervoxels is the tool to use for that. but not for this challenge as it's a modeling challenge. but later I will :)

lildragon,
raaah, so you haven't seen it. I made it because you told me to, raah! ;)
I linked to it at page3 in this thread, but my pal's server is down for a week or 2 right now.. I will try to find a place to upload it to asap.
glad you like my site to :)

Fetus23
09-01-2002, 04:56 PM
Hey fellah....now I am thinking you are a bastard ;). This looks too damn nice!!! You must make some more tutorials. I like the jacket and earings...hope to see them come back in future renders!! Also, you never told me how you did that wonderful water in the tank and now I'm dealing with a water tank for my cargo flyer. Any tips would be nice!! Lets see one with his mouth open...does he have teeth???

fetus

:wavey:

fellah
09-01-2002, 05:20 PM
hi fetus,
oh sorry, I totally forgot to tell you how I did the water :eek:

basically I just copied the glass of the bowl pasted it to a new layer, sculpted it at the top so it looked like water. made a copy of that which I flipped and gave another surface(close the the first one although I changed the refraction index some so that I would get some nice refraction on the water)
the bubbles are just simple spheres that I putted in the water with a slightly different surface then the water to make them stand out more.
I also use a HDRImage to lit the scene, I think that helps the waterLook out alot.

yes, I will make some wild expression with his mouth open to(grr.. yes I have to model some teeth :) )

take care
// fellah

skunk184
09-01-2002, 07:40 PM
that s it is a great design model and an awesome render fellah....
stunning work as usual.no crits from me:beer:

visualboo
09-02-2002, 04:52 AM
ok, I did a couple tests to try and get the look of your glass and water. The back one is alright (there's water in there sloshing around but you can't see it very well :) ). The bottom one is just horrible. Oh well, 2nd test render :shrug:

Fellah? shed some light on this :) I'm sure people here would be gratefull.

oh and don't mind the toilet. I just did that to kinda get the same scene setup. That's my own interpretation :D

[edit] sorry anders, hope you don't mind. I'm just fascinated by your glass and water. Very stylized.

visualboo
09-02-2002, 05:18 AM
ok, looking back at page 9 I see I should have used your pic more for reference on the water.

one question: How in the..... what the..... where is.... the LIGHT where is it coming from? :D

fellah
09-02-2002, 09:34 AM
hihi, very cool bubbles! :cool:

I wrote(very basic) how I did it 1-2posts before you. but I'll try to make a more explained tut later on today when I find the time.
the light(s) are coming from the back(and from the HDRI),
glad you like the style :)

take care
// fellah

visualboo
09-02-2002, 01:47 PM
I'm not really concerned with the modeling, I mean the materials applied to it. :) I guess a couple screen shots of the surface editor with the settings could work if you don't mind. Might be faster than writing a small tut. Thanks a lot bud

So you say the lighting on the water is coming from the HDRI huh? That's the only light source? Nice job again.

fellah
09-02-2002, 04:39 PM
here you go visualboo,

PeeSurface (http://www.geocities.com/fellah3d/PeeSurface.gif)
GlassSurface (http://www.geocities.com/fellah3d/GlassSurface.gif)
I also use a bit of ColorHightlights for the surfaces.. and yes, I only use 1 light(backlight) and the rest is HDRI lighting..

now tell me how you did the cool bubbles so I can do that to :D

take care
// fellah

Aearon
09-02-2002, 07:26 PM
ok i couldn't send this as a pm because your mailbox is full ;)

"hey big fellah,

i just noticed that the links you've just posted in your thread don't work for me, seems to be yahoo doing that...yahoo thing :D

just wanted to let you know without cluttering the thread :)"

d'oh, i'll just pretend it's your fault :wip:

fellah
09-02-2002, 07:59 PM
fist:
oh :sad: I can send it to your mail if you wan't me to. I don't have anywhere to upload all the images right now :sad: maybe it was the geocities limit?
or try to copy these links into your browser, it might work:
http://www.geocities.com/fellah3d/PeeSurface.gif
http://www.geocities.com/fellah3d/GlassSurface.gif

ps: cleaned up my mailbox to ;)


a little update.. I tried green colors as you proposed but I liked the blue looking toilet against a orange character a little more, especially now when I putted him in space :)
if you don't like the colors and think *gah, fellah can't do anything right* just PM me and I'll send the PSD file with the character\toilet\BG in different layers so you can change the colors and show me.

oh, virtuoso. your surprise will come soon :)

I will try to make an army of these guys all with different poses and put them in the scene.. anyway, the image:

DimitrisLiatsos
09-02-2002, 09:01 PM
:beer:

Man ..he is so cool!!! WallPaper !!! :bounce:

Wiz
09-02-2002, 09:08 PM
that looks awesome
but i dont understand what the white thing is?

mv
09-02-2002, 09:23 PM
noooo! that's soo cool!!

tubby
09-02-2002, 09:29 PM
hey fellah that looking fantastic!! i love your creation. i personally dont like the white on the underbelly too much, maybe an off white would look a little less contrasting to the yellow. good luck to you!!:)

MikaelPersson
09-02-2002, 09:37 PM
Kill your darlings. ;) Hmm, this is personal. But that white still hurts my eyes. It would be a brilliant creation if you did drop it.

I really like your new image with him in space.

Totitch
09-02-2002, 09:40 PM
Biark!!! It's not beautifull at all!
I don't like it! :thumbsdow

Hinhinhin!

Great great job for a Viking! Very nice! But i'm very impatient to see a little army, and a better camera view (More Focale)

Bravo Fellatovsky!:D

pabbloz
09-02-2002, 10:37 PM
don't listen totitch... he's almost such bastad as you.... :D

great job! :thumbsup:
I'm agree on the white color, too much contrast :hmm: hard to "read" the image at the first...
the boubles are very nice!
and I suggest another camera place... one more side view... your toilet is enough well done for show! :D ;)

Really good stuff!

visualboo
09-02-2002, 10:44 PM
fellah.... you truly are one talented individual. I LOVE this thing.

crit: I agree with the overly white. makes it look angelic like someone already posted. He's not angelic :) but on the upside, I like the orange with the white/blue terlet. :buttrock: oh and nice bubbles too :airguitar

I WANT a wallpaper btw :) 1600 x 1200

[edit] where's that joystick wire go?

[edit2] thanks for the pics btw. That HDR map must really add to the effect, which is why I can't seem to nail that look :shrug:

fellah
09-02-2002, 10:48 PM
DimitrisLiatsos,
hey I didn't think about it but it can make a nice wallpaper. I'll make a bigger render in the end.

Wiz,
you mean the white skin? that's the skin :)

m@,
thanks alot bud!

tubby, Mikael P, tubby and pabbloz:
raaaaaahhh! you're forcing me to kill my darling! I've already killed so many(jacket, pilothat etc..) ;)
I will try to give it the same orangeYellow color as the rest of the skin and see how it looks though :wip:

pabbloz, totitch:
another camera angle from the side? and totitch wanted one from the front with the guy staring at us! wee, you're tearing me apart! ;)
I will make alot of different angles for the final. there will be a whole army of these guys there.
and I'll also compose the final so that you can see some "spin around" pictures of the original model, I think.. more angles. I will try to to my best!

[edit]
didn't see you visualboo! we posted at the same time..
I didn't know where to put the joystickWire so it's dangling around in the air right now.
I'll render out a wallpapper in the end but not at that size, to big!!! :)

thank you all!

visualboo
09-02-2002, 10:54 PM
I'll render out a wallpapper in the end but not at that size, to big!!!
:annoyed:

yeah, hehe... I added a couple edit's there too. Don't know if you saw those either.

fellah
09-02-2002, 11:16 PM
yea I saw them, check your PM and we shall work things out ;)

OZ
09-02-2002, 11:23 PM
FELLAH! U ROX UP!OVER EVERYONE!!!!!AMAZING!U ARE MY HERO!!!

now plaze....hires pic on ur site needed!:applause: geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Apt Pupil
09-03-2002, 08:45 AM
Oh boy, this is going to be something to see if you create an army of them LOL, Great idea:applause:

So then, are you also going to create multiple weapons? LOL Dammit, this is going to be great, I just can't wait to see it.

As for the white streak for his jaw, yup, I certainly agree with what everyone is saying;)

Keep :wip: :wip:

:thumbsup:

Kulu_Kulu
09-03-2002, 08:53 AM
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:


kulu

freemind77
09-03-2002, 01:08 PM
I agree with others about white color..maybe change the tint make it more orange but lighter ten rest of body (just idea) other than that F*CKING BRILIANT COOL PIC ! :bounce:

CactusJack
09-03-2002, 04:09 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

fellah
09-03-2002, 04:58 PM
-OZ-,
I will make one or 2 highres pics really soon, thanks alot mate! :)

Apt Pupil, freemind77,
thanks, I will try to change the white skin color.. grr.. I like it.. but.. grr.. :)
hm.. I don't know for multiple weapons but I will try to finish of one gun anyway :)

Kulu_Kulu, CactusJack,
:beer:

skunk184
09-03-2002, 06:06 PM
well fellah.....ive had a good look around the challenges now, and yours is definately my favourite......thats an awesome style you got going on there...you bastard!!!:p :p

Apt Pupil
09-03-2002, 06:24 PM
What!! your creating an army with only one weapon *eek* and with a gun on top of it. I thought you were going to create an army with these little guys using crude weapons like chains, bats, iron clubs, pocket knifes, and anything else gang related and funny LOL. It would certainly be a lot easier to model:) Than again, I am getting ahead of myself, the gun might be cOoL too, we shall see.

As for the white streak, you have seriously got to change it :p

I'll say it again though, it's certainly a fantastic piece so far. Looking forward to seeing this little booger finalized.

visualboo
09-03-2002, 09:42 PM
Yeah, I agree with Apt Pupil. Crude weapons would be a lot cooler than some refined machine gun or whatever :thumbsup:

-----

Sorry fellah, I'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything. I've just been having fun playing with this glass and water (pee :) ). I swear I'm just doing this to learn. Maybe I should post these in a different thread?

Getting it to look a lot better. Here's another attempt >

http://www.visualboo.com/images/personalprojects/fellahs-terlet/fellahs-terlet-02.jpg

This has been a great final render learning experience :thumbsup:

Baal
09-03-2002, 11:42 PM
I :love: it! I want to see it finished, c'mon, work work work! :wip: :wip: :D

visualboo
09-04-2002, 01:52 AM
Baal, sorry for the confusion. That's not fellah's entry. Check back a page to see his.

I've been playing with materials in final render lately and his toilet was a perfect specimen to use :)

on a side note... I've got that water all rigged for animation now :thumbsup: at least my first attempt :D

Baal
09-04-2002, 02:11 AM
There's no confusion at all :wavey: :)

I really want to see fellah's final entry, with the bean-gun and stuff :D

But you can show us that water anim visualboo, I'd really like to see it :)

visualboo
09-04-2002, 03:47 AM
ahh cool, I thought I was messin everything up :D

fellah
09-04-2002, 11:02 AM
skunk184,
very glad you like it! I know, I'm a bastard :sad: ;)

Apt Pupil,
that's a very good idea with the gang weapons! I will go for that later(after the challenge), but right now I don't have the time.. and I've already finished the peeGun.. but a bat is easy to make.. but.. I'll see :)

As for the white streak, you have seriously got to change it
raaaaah!!! ;)

visualboo,
hey np at all,
it looks very good so far, maybe more hightlights would make the final touch.
and show us that animation, I wan't to see how it will look for me in the future ;)

Baal,
thanks man, I will do my best to finish it before the deadline.

visualboo
09-04-2002, 02:15 PM
As for the white streak, you have seriously got to change it
I like it alot too... Keep it. I just didn't like the really blurry white one.

hehe, the way I had it rigged before didn't produce the results I wanted so back to the drawing board :) Maybe softbodies :shrug:

huh?
09-05-2002, 11:55 AM
Hi fellah,
I was trying out the steps in your rendering tut.
but the surface editor doesn't seem to be able to load .hdr format images
what's the catch?

fellah
09-05-2002, 11:14 PM
sorry for the late response, I've been busy.. anyway better late then never,

visualboo
so, whre is it? you've had 2days now :wip:

huh?
hm, don't know really.. are you using a version prior to 7.0, all plugins installed, is it a working HDR?
elseway I don't know..

here's the final bastard pic, I will take some time tomorrow and try to fix a scene to.. but this is the pic I'm gonna use in the voting..

Click for larger image:
http://www.iespana.es/space-duck/noweb/Fellah_AnBFinalOptimizedS.jpg (http://www.iespana.es/space-duck/noweb/Fellah_AnBFinalOptimized.jpg)

take care
// fellah

skunk184
09-05-2002, 11:18 PM
amazing fellah ......what can i say except you total bastard :scream:

cheers
craig :beer:

pabbloz
09-05-2002, 11:41 PM
http://216.40.241.68/contrib/blackeye/hihi.gif Haha! really funny! :thumbsup:

wow this is a great job!
I like very much the composition and background! really nice! :thumbsup:
but the thing I most love of this is pic, it's the two poses of the middle with these opened eyes! :eek: AMAZING!

You got my vote for sure, bastard! :applause:

DXtreme
09-05-2002, 11:48 PM
really cool!
i like it very much ... crazy idea and very good reproducing of the concept!

five stars from me!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

CactusJack
09-06-2002, 12:10 AM
Soopa doopa!

:beer:

My all time favorite!

:applause:

...:beer:...

...:beer:...

...:beer:...

Fabulous job!!!

mebamonster
09-06-2002, 05:39 AM
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! This is hillarious! I love the expressions and pee gun! BUAHAHAHAH!!! Great work there Fellah! Congradulations on finishing a fabulous piece!

rolhionjs
09-06-2002, 05:55 AM
I was waiting for this final render to comment ;) and wow !!! That's really an amazing piece !! You've done a fantastic work ! there's alot of feelings in this character and the main idea is simply GREAT !!!

tubby
09-06-2002, 05:56 AM
thats amazing fellah!! damn... "for he is the Kwisatz Haderach!!!!"

mv
09-06-2002, 08:02 AM
cheers!

huh?
09-06-2002, 09:15 AM
hehehe, great!

especially the, mmm let's see what's wrong here look.
problem solved anyway missed a plug in.

cheers.

fellah
09-06-2002, 11:20 AM
wow, one good night of sleep and all this encouragement, I'm very glad you like it :)

all you NEED to do, is make a DAMN TUTORIAL!!
hehehe, I've already revealed so many 'secrets' in this challenge, now the only one I have left is my superSpecial modeling technique, I'll save that for later :cool: ;)

this has been the most complete projects I've made for myself(he even got a full rig, morphs etc..) I would probably not have finished it if it wasn't for all you ppl,

thanks once again and take care
// fellah

leigh
09-06-2002, 02:59 PM
Wow, Fellah - well done! Yours is definitely my fave in this challenge, and I think the last render you have their is truly fantastic! :thumbsup:
Excellent stuff, keep it up!

derwolpertinger
09-06-2002, 10:33 PM
damn, that's a truly great and amazing work you have done here fellah!!
i really dig your shading style!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Rhid1en
09-06-2002, 11:15 PM
Turned out really amazing! Great job fellah, very inspiring!

Useless information-Ever wonder where the word $#!T comes from? Well, here it is:

Certain types of manure used to be transported (as everything was years ago) by ship. In dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet, but once water (at sea) hit it, it not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation
began again, of which a byproduct is methane gas.

As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen. Methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern, BOOOOM!

Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was discovered what was happening. After that, the bundles of manure were always stamped with the term "S.H.I.T" on them which meant to the sailors to "Ship High In Transit."

In other words, high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.

Zardoz
09-07-2002, 02:07 AM
Awesome!

It's on my Top5.

fellah
09-07-2002, 09:34 AM
Leigh, derwolpertinger and Zardoz,
this one is on me :beer: thanks!

Rhid1en, hehehe, that was fun reading!
guess my guy will explode in time like it's now :sad: but.. I didn't have a clue about this :)



oh btw,
if anyone can figure out the text on the backPlate on the
'toiletVehicle', I'll give you 2 beers :)

(hint: the msg can be found in this thread ;) )

Aearon
09-07-2002, 10:18 AM
the text is "totitch is a bastard" :D

i'd prefer you sending me some money so i can buy the beer myself though ;)

hehe great final piece fellah, it's on my top 3 list, or maybe more like top 1 'list' - we'll have to wait and see what my mood is once the challenge site is up :D ;)

fellah
09-07-2002, 10:23 AM
the text is "totitch is a bastard"
wroooooong! you're out of the contest! :cool:

thanks for the kind words though, but you'll jave to buy your own beer now ;)

Aearon
09-07-2002, 10:31 AM
it's wrong? d'oh :wip:

i wish i had the time to read the whole thread again - damn shame this piece is such a reply magnet hehe :drool:

MikaelPersson
09-08-2002, 06:24 PM
Great. I like your comic strip. Wonder who he shot at? and what happened to him?
The sign is a bit hard to read. Subpixels is not available here. But it looks something likte *EWS **. But I would not dare make a guess just out of your picture.
The new chin/stomach colour is much nicer. I like it now when you toned it down.
Would be fun to have one fullscreen render of him alone.

see you around next time.

ilasolomon
09-09-2002, 12:05 AM
GR8! as always...
i'm angry coz i couldn't find some crits for that!!! :annoyed:
i love/hate the perfectionists!
:thumbsup:

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