View Full Version : Geforce 6800 GT vs Radeon 9800 pro
Halo_Renegade 09-06-2004, 09:42 AM I need to know which is better for a 3D animation workstation, the Geforce 6800 GT or the Radeon 9800 pro?? Im trying to get a good card for 3D animation but also use it for games.
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novadude
09-06-2004, 03:09 PM
The 6800GT will be better at both, as it is a new generation card. It's performance is on par with ATI's X800 Pro. Look for the BFG 6800GT OC, which is slightly overclocked from the factory and is still covered by warranty.
good news for me as I just ordered one of those 6800 GT cards :)
Im running XSI and the radeons always had a reputation of working improperly with xsi so... not much to think about in my case. Either way id stick with nvidia, they have a reputation of more solid drivers no matter what application you are using. Im sure in gaming alone the radeons should be about as stable as the nvidia cards.
Halo_Renegade
09-08-2004, 06:38 AM
ok thanks, my friend keeps telling i should get radeon because its so powerful in games and thinks that the its would work very well in 3D animation programs.
the Geforce 6800GT has the following advantages over the Radeon 9800 top model:
Cost (its cheaper)
Speed (its much faster, almost twice as fast in some cases)
SLI (you can connect two together, only of the PCIe version tho, making it almost twice as fast as a single one..)
and reliability in 3D applications (ATI has known issues with quite a few 3D apps out there)
well it was last time i looked
but i bet between that time and now the price has moved around a bit for both cards (now that i look :P)
in either case.. i think the price diff now is worth it anyway..
so thats a easy way of admitting your wrong http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/grin.gif
novadude
09-08-2004, 07:48 PM
The 6800gt sells for twice the price of the 9800 pro
imashination
09-08-2004, 07:50 PM
The GT is the best card of the 2, no doubt about it, but it also costs twice as much.
yes i do admit i was wrong initially :P so sorry :P
Twice as much?
nah... either you're finding really cheap 9800s that i've not seen (remember i just looked :)) or you're finding really expencive 6800GTs :P
the price difference i saw was about 80 dollars in favor of the 9800 ... (granted depending on brand and what not this varies)
the price range i've seen for the 9800 (as of today) is 310-415 US dollars.. for the 6800 i've seen 390-450
so twice as much? i think not.. so if its less than twice as much and in most cases almost twice as fast .. i think its a better buy :P
Vertizor
09-08-2004, 09:09 PM
Halo, your friend probably plays more games than he uses 3D applications. Games rely on texture memory and bandwidth. A game developer skimps on polygons and puts all the detail into the textures. When you do 3D modeling and animation, especially when dealing with high polygon models, the GPU strength will win the day. Try animating a complex mesh that's been smoothed or sub div'ed many times and watch it skip.
ATI focused too much on DirectX, primarily for games, their OpenGL performance suffers from this practice. Nvidia has always been better at OpenGL performance, and that's the predominate 3D API in all 3D packages.
imashination
09-08-2004, 10:38 PM
yes i do admit i was wrong initially :P so sorry :P
Twice as much?
Radeon 9800 Pro £150
Geforce 6800 GT £295
i just realized why everyone's saying twice :)
Pro .. not XT.. all this time i was refering to the XT cuz i coulda sworn the post said XT and not pro.. go figure tho.. *shrug* but price still doesnt matter since nvidia has equal offerings in the same price catagory.. I'd still go with an Nvidia based card.. for exactly the reason Vertizor mentions.. if not the GT ($390) maybe just the regular ($270) or something in the FX5900XT range ($160)..
Though, the Geforce 6600 GT is supposidly going to hit the $200 price point.. and bring alot of what you see in the 6800 line to the midrange market.. which makes it a tempting thing to wait for.. if you can hold out for a while.. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2196
maxrelics
09-11-2004, 05:56 AM
The real question should be x800 pro vs the 6800 gt
this is like saying the 9800 pro vs the geforce 4
Knotter8
09-11-2004, 12:16 PM
The real question should be x800 pro vs the 6800 gt
this is like saying the 9800 pro vs the geforce 4
That's still hands down for the GT imho. Why ?
- Nvidia OpenGL drivers
- GT has hardware MPEG2 decode chip ; great card for video stuff and multimedia
- Alot of GT's come with dual DVI and S-video out
- GT has already proven to me it beats my old QuadroFX1000 @ Cinema4D R8
and is only slighty behind it in Maya5.
As for gaming ;
- 16 pixelpipelines vs X800Pro's 12.
- shader model 3.0 support ; BIG shader model 3.0 games soon : Splinter Cell 3,
Stalker and Vampire Bloodlines. Also, games using Crytek engine, Far Cry 1.2
- Also consider Doom3 performance and all the
games which will use it's engine. By the time HL2 ships, Nvidia will have new
Forceware which will probably close the Ati - Nvidia gap considerably.
stephen2002
09-11-2004, 01:08 PM
The real question should be x800 pro vs the 6800 gt
this is like saying the 9800 pro vs the geforce 4
Huh? It's more like saying 9800pro vs GeForceFX 5900.
maxrelics
09-11-2004, 04:09 PM
This thread is comparing and older generation card to the newest generation, which is why i said:
The real question should be x800 pro vs the 6800 gt
this is like saying the 9800 pro vs the geforce 4 The 9800pro vs GeForceFX 5900 comparison is two card from the same generation. If that's the case, then the Radeon would have won. But since it's a newer card vs and older card, the newer card will win. Even if it was x800 pro vs the 6800 gt, I believe that the 6800 would win.
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