Challenge issues resolved in this thread

[Elf]

wasnt the new challenge for August going to be on the new cgchallenge forums?:curious: where is the place to vote for the past challenge?

[Lorenzo]

Where I must post my tread, and my real name etc,
I need some help with this.

and I agre with Elf comment, where is this month voting pool.
thanks.:hmm:

[lildragon]

hehe you two don't read much huh? :)

I did mention that the challenge forums stays here, the challenge site will serve as a hub for this forum...

and I believe I even mentioned that the voting WILL commence once the new challenge site is up...

Please guys and others READ THE STICKY THREADS it contains all the info you'll need for most things...

salud!

[Elf]

i read the sticky threads, i guess they were a bit cloudy to me, oh well, its clear now:p

[Koma]

abitually , we can be abble to work on a vehicule or a character,depend of what we love more ,but this month challenge look that we have to model a flying kind machine ,and character modeler are a forget ,maybe iam wrong i have some difficult sometime in english .

[jtk77]

ok , not sure if this is the right place to post it , but..
I havn;t tried a challenge yet and I was reading through the rules for bump maps.
So any natural texture can be bumped?
Like the grain on ceramic ? or natural wood grain?
What about general natural damage? Nicks scrapes?
Is that out?
Just asking, thanks for any clearity.
Yell at me if I posted in the wrong place or I'm i'm just dumb
haha....:scream:

[AJ]

As Gabe said, is the vehicle the main bulk of the entry for this challenge? Is it okay to spend more time working on our little pilots... ;)

I suppose that if you're going to spend a couple of weeks on a character then you'd better spend a couple more on his contraption...

I only ask because I look forward more to doing the character than the contraption.

Oh, and nice idea! :D

And for anyone who hasn't seen it already - I recommend getting your hands on a Copy of Laputa - Castle in the Sky from Studio Ghibli's collection, if not because it'll be a great source of inspiration - it's also a fantastic film! :D

[lildragon]

Either or, you can model what you wish, but primary focus this month is on the vehicle, if you choose to model both that's fine, but keep in mind the genre... pilots, mechanics e.t.c use every ounce of imagination...

jtk77: yes that's fine, anything that's not practical to model, as was stated...

salud!

[hypercube]

Damn, the corpse of the july challenge isn't even cold yet :D

Great theme tho! Makes me wish I could enter..but if I can, I will later..not going to get roped into another unfinished one just yet..but oh the ideas! :) I definitely think it would be cool to have a 'character side' to it, ie the pilots get as much attention.

Laputa is definitely a fantastic source of inspiration..also Porco Rosso! I wish a non-bootleg official set of Ghibli would hurry up and get released. And of course Frezzato comes to mind, but then when doesn't he? :)

Anyway, good luck everyone, will enjoy watching from the sidelines, and I'm sure I'll get sucked in sooner or later.

[pgp_protector]

I'm game, where do we post the work, it the challenges forum ??

[lildragon]

Just updated...

pgp_protector: it's in the rules bud

salud!

[iC4]

the challenge forum stays here, only the voting thing and thumbnail page will be on the new page

so just post here



to the challenge topic.......it would be nice if it hasn't to be homemade....because you can't too that much which is homemade...........:hmm:

[lildragon]

Originally posted by iC4-

to the challenge topic.......it would be nice if it hasn't to be homemade....because you can't too that much which is homemade.........

It's called a challenge for a reason ;) and use your imagination, there's endless amount of materials you can find in one's habitat, be it a modern house or a troll's cave

[AJ]

be it a modern house or a troll's cave

Ah... the old "Troll Dung Gyrocopter" :D :p

[iC4]

ok you are right, allready have an idea :D

[jtk77]

I'm asuming we can use scape parts that might be lying around that are not intended for an air vehicale?
We don't have to stay TOTALLY organic in nature ,eh?
Thus the post sci-fi "mad max esk" theme mentioned in the write up?
Just a clarification....:hmm:

[Elf]

non-homemade would open up the possibilty of a very fancy flying machine but oh well:shrug:

[jeroentje]

Great challenge! :bounce:
Have a couple of ideas allready. Hope I can find the time and I will NOT leave an unfinished entrie again...

I have what may seem to many a very stupid question though.
2) Should carry only up to 4 people
This is my English failing here. Do you want it to cary 4 or more, or not more then 4? :blush:

Cheers, jeroentje :beer:

:thumbsup: Good luck with the challenge-site and keep up all the other good work aswell :thumbsup:

[erilaz]

What if the designer of the contraption makes flying things for a living? Then the homemade contraption could look ANYTHING BUT HOMEMADE!! :D

I'm only kidding, so don't kill me!:p

Yay! I've already started sketching!:bounce:

[Elf]

erilaz good point hehehe:twisted: , jeroentje the flying thing is NOT supposed to carry more than four:p

[iC4]

is it allowed to include not homemade stuff in the vehicle? for example a bicycle? :) or can a bicycle be homemade?
:shrug:

[jtk77]

I won't see why not .
I mean , using parts and stuff left over from a junk pile should be cool.
AS long as it was put together , home made like...
I would guess anyway, thats what i got out of the setup/.:airguitar

[hypercube]

That's kind of my understanding of it..I mean, you don't 'make' tape or gum either..I'm thinking junkyard-wars type contraptions would be great..but then that's just me :D

[Wiro]

Alright, it seems like some people are already getting their trousers all twisted because of the mention "homemade" ...use your imagination. If we made it too easy for you, we'd all end up with F-16s with some fancy doodads to make it look sci fi :)

Imagine you had a fantasy; you've always wanted to fly! You don't have the money or resources to get an F16. So you make your own airplane out of the materials you have. Now imagine you are an orc. Or ET trying to get back to earth. Or Buzz Lightyear stuck on a junk planet. Or McGyver. It's really not that hard. Just don't try to make a fancy clean airplane. There's enough room for that in the WIP gallery. We're promoting originality here!

What's important is that the result should NOT look like it came out of a factory. It should NOT like like the person who made it spent the past 3 decades being a pro at making these vehicles. It should look put together in a spontanous way. As if the creator had a dream one night about wanting to fly. Or escaping a prison. Or being tired of eating chicken from his backyard and wanting to hunt airwhales (ya know, Episode 2) from the air instead! The possiblilties are limitless if you just take some time to think about it.

Wiro

[lildragon]

Booyah!!! Wiro you hit it on the head ;)

salud!

[Wiro]

Hehe, booyah Lil!

I just wanted to add something; concerning the characters. We thought that we should let the non-character modelers have their fun again. This doesn't mean the character modelers are left out. You'll only have to be able to build the contraption more around the character...like a pilot wearing a jetpack, piloting a para-ski or propeller powered parachute. If you want to emphasize the character then make sure you make one helluva cool contraption around him :P

Wiro

[Elf]

:applause: bravo, that really will help give people a better understanding of homemade

[iC4]

jep, thx wiro :)

[red_oddity]

'Kay,
this might sound like a dumb question, but can anyone (me for example) join?
If so, can i do this by just posting a thread or do i have to sign in somewhere (I like to do a challange myself for once...)

Sven

[lildragon]

it's open to everyone and err "anything" ;)

salud!

[Jacob]

...yeah, thats all people need are flying things on their demo reel.....

[lildragon]

Originally posted by Jacob
...yeah, thats all people need are flying things on their demo reel.....

what are you implying? Very narrowminded view IMHO, plus who said anything about using it on a demo reel?

salud!

[levin]

can i model a craft that is powered by enchantment?
a magical air something like those tuna crafts in ATLANTIS (disney)?

[Lorenzo]

I'm so sorry for my very poor inglish understanding;)
And tanks for this site to all the moderators.:applause:
It is always more interesting, and many new people and youg genius are comming theire:)

[jeroentje]

Hm... I do have another question.

Does "bought-on-the-home-shopping-channel" count as "home made?" :bounce:

[lildragon]

Originally posted by jeroentje
Hm... I do have another question.

Does "bought-on-the-home-shopping-channel" count as "home made?" :bounce:

:curious: what do *you* think?

[Elf]

what if it was homemade in another person's house?:p

[jeroentje]

According to your reply I gues not ;)

Too bad. I had a package design in mind for
"Mister Wing: the number one build-it-yourself flying device" As seen on TV

[WhatItIsIs]

jeroentje : i am not sure if anyone replied to your question about the wording of up to 4 passengers, but it means 4 or less. i just thought i would clear that up for you. :thumbsup:

anyway, i had a question about one of the rules... it doesn't really apply to me, but just for clarification:

6) A character (pilot, mechanic or spectator) is optional. The emphasis is on the vehicle. The character can be made as part of the contraption though (as wearing a jetpack)

8) The character should show one of the following emotions, proud, angry, frustrated


according to rule 6, we do not have to have a character, so is rule 8 taken into consideration only if we include a pilot? i would assume so, but the wording is still a little unclear. thanks for the help! i hope to finally participate in a challenge here! :bounce:

[Elf]

i thought i had posted an answer to jeroentje, or maybe not:shrug:

[Wiro]

8) is for those modelling a character. Like before we thought it would be nice if characters aren't just shown in their default poses and expressions :)

Wiro

[jeroentje]

Thanks WhatItIsIs, but Elf had allready explained.
But thanks for the effort anyway ;)

[hypercube]

Hmm, just noticed this brought up but hadn't noticed it in the rules before..why no alien characters? As stated that's very broad, but it's also very limiting..why couldn't an alien inventor do the same sort of thing? I could understand if it was some alien that had giant wings or was made of gas bags, but I dunno. What's an Orc considered then? Is it just anything non-terrestrial? There are some cool entries using insects, mice, etc. where's that put them?

Anyway just curious..trying to bust through work to be able to enter, but if it boils down to just what kind of human scale items a guy's plane, balloon, or helicopter is built out of, all the good stuff will be done by then. Call me unimaginative, but that seemed a little stifling.

[erilaz]

I think it's more that "alien" means the contraption could be made out of ANYTHING then, even stuff that doesn't look homemade because it can be argued that it's ALIEN home made.

And the fact that the rules don't want a bunch of spaceships!:D

[hypercube]

Yeah that part makes sense.."well hey, on his planet, battle cruisers grow on trees". I'm just hoping that anything from this earth is game.. :)

[lildragon]

erilaz: exactly ;)

and cube yes "non-terrestrial" can you imagine the chaos, when peeps are arguing over a non-terrestrial type object, saying it's "homemade" I don't need the stress :argh:

Think of things that can exist of this world, Dinos, giants even trolls, elves (think middle earth here) just folk tales even, these are things we're very familiar with...

Don't limit your imagination to spaceships, the industry hates them heheh.

salud!

[hypercube]

Woohoo, thanks, that's great then, I'm off :thumbsup: :D

[Wiro]

Well, if it says "no aliens" you just do no aliens...everything else goes :D

You can bend the rules as long as you don't break them.

Wiro

[jtk77]

hey does a creature whos part of the operations of the ship...
not crew member..
not be considerater in the 4 passanger rule?
or..
can the ship be build for 4 pasangers or less but have more on it?
haha...just idle thoughts...

[Neural Riptide]

Question:
"Remember that this is a WIP challenge, so it is a requirementto show the steps you used, maps e.t.c , e.t.c and help out as much as you can, of course you're not obligated to, but it will help those that need it greatly."

Does this mean we have to have a challenge thread, or just a record of what the process was?

[iC4]

if you don't have a challenge thread the challenge get's useless.......you can't win anything, it's just for fun and to get critics and comments from other people

[erilaz]

UP TO 4 people, so 1-4 people Hellrender.

Or 0-4 people if you want to be pedantic!!:D I

[Kula]

This may seem an obvious question, but does it have to be in the actual "act of flying" ? Or can it be parked on the ground, with lets say, props around it and people in the process of assembling it? I didn't see a rule saying it must be flying so can we take liberties here?

[Wiro]

0-4 people, including (but not restricted to) cats, cows, kangooroos and ducks. Mice, rats and flees are not considered sizeable enough to take up space. Raccoons are though as well as badgers or any duckbilled mammals.
Chicken and pheasants in cages are considered cargo and can be added. The abovementioned duck as well if in a cage.

I think it's ok to have the vehicle parked as well as long as it's recognised as being a flying vehicle even if it's still being assembled.

Hope that clears it up a bit :)

Wiro

[Virtuoso]

My question is..................Can there be crew or workers upon the vessel??? My assumptions are that the crew are helping the vessel along, they are not part of the 4. So can I have a crew to help the vessel go..............you know more than 10 characters???..............Thanks for any help........:beer: :)

[Wiro]

As long as the crew is not in the vessel when it takes off...

Any more questions? Bring it on!! :D

Wiro

PS: feel free to make 10 crewmembers but remember that you should have time to have some sort of flying vehicle within this month too ;)

[Virtuoso]

Thanks very much Wiro..............I'll have to revise my initial thoughts a bit, but should get my plans to work none the less.............And yes I''ll get a flying vessel/contraption to go along with the characters as well.................somehow.......;) :beer: :)

[Shaf33k]

So the idea of a 'Junk yard wars' thing is ok. eg. Taking a John Deer and kiting it out to fly. I understand it has to look home built, but some of the vehicles made on that show look pretty impressive. So basically, can we put together a piecemeal contraption made up of factory made "parts" but do not come constructed as a whole?
Also what are the rules for the 2d challenge on using 3d renders composited into the image? eg. backgrounds, pyrotechnics etc.
Thx for the info.

Ciao!
Shafeek

[Apt Pupil]

Just curious, I am in the process of designing my thingy, and I realize that I have a few areas that will be comprised of glass. Are making objects transparent allowed?? (please, for the love of Kentuky, let transparencies be allowed )

Just curious, thanks

:wavey:

[zenzmurfy]

:wavey: So. does this mean my spider as the pilot of an airplane made of maple seed wings and a dandelion fuselage is okay?

ZZ-

[lildragon]

Originally posted by Shafeek Amiruddin

Also what are the rules for the 2d challenge on using 3d renders composited into the image? eg. backgrounds, pyrotechnics etc.
Thx for the info.

Ciao!
Shafeek

umm that's a bit elaborate, don't worry yourself over making a full fledge scene, that's not what we're after, concentrate at the task at hand, then when that's done you can go wild on the scene when the challenge is over...


Apt Pupil: of course transparencies are allowed it's not a texture ;) just don't add any reflection maps or something like that, just make it evident it's glass

zenzmurfy uh yeh :curious: heh

salud!

[jeroentje]

I don't know yet if I can find the time, but would it be okay to enter with two things?
I thought to start a new thread then and call it
"Above & Beyond - 2D - jeroentje (2nd entrie)"
Would that be okay?

But must finish first one first ;)
jeroentje

[Jhonus]

In past challenges collaborations were allowed... is that true for this one too?

I don't have time to enter on my own... but i might re-consider if we can collaborate.

Cheers Lil'D :beer:

[lildragon]

jeroentje: of course you can, providing you have the time ;)

Krugar: yup yup, for instance one person can model the character and the other the flying machine ;) have fun, but make sure you put the collaboration text in your thread title, along with the names who you're collaborating with..

salud!

[Zardoz]

this message is for the moderator...i don't know if it's lildragon...
my thread is

My thread - page 2 (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16731&pagenumber=2)

and i already had a page 3, with pictures and some replys from the guys...but now that 3rd page is gone. What happened?

Does anyone knows? should i post my pics again? can that be 'repaired' ?

tx

pax
:beer:

[tubby]

hey i Zardoz think this might help, im not sure if this is why, but it could be.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17617

[lildragon]

That is exactly the reason, it's unfortunate but these things happen

salud!

[mv]

Can the contraption be kind of parasite? I mean, a home-made something connected on a flying thing totally not homemade, like a Boeing 747?
(ing ing ing:insane: )

[Zardoz]

tx guys...

tubby: yep it sure was that! well i just posted the pics again

lildragon: tx :thumbsup:

sometimes sh*t happens!

[jeroentje]

Hi lildragon, I was curious about the status of the Challenge website and the voting for the July challenge (not that I finished my piece, poor looser that I am).
I realize that you people have a lot on your minds and I don't wanna sound pushy. I haven't heard about it for a while, so I was just curious...
Cheers, jeroentje :beer:

[lildragon]

Yeh jeez, I was meaning to give you guys an update D'OH! >_<!! sorry about that...

The challenge site is on the roll, the concepts are finished, I just have to keep on Leo's back to get the beta version out, the first iteration won't be complete, but you should be able to vote on the pass challenge and this one (god willing) SO I know it's late but having busy lives and such doesn't help the cause hehe, rest assure it IS coming this month....

salud!

[jeroentje]

Okay, thanks and cheers, jeroentje :beer:

[road]

Just wondering if there is a thumbnail page for this challenge? if so I don't see it...

Or are we not doing that this time like we did for BoB challenge..?

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