Paul Anderson on AvP

[DannyDreams]

"as a film I thought it sucked, and as a film maker I think he is a pile of lama sh*t. I would really like to kick him in the throat" - Danny Dreams

[PhilWesson]

"as a film I thought it sucked, and as a film maker I think he is a pile of lama sh*t. I would really like to kick him in the throught" - Danny Dreams
lol good stuff DannyDreams

[Kwe]

Of course a director as low as Anderson's gonna blame AVP's crappiness to the studio. Sorry, Anderson...but the studio didn't write the stupid @$$ script!!!

[titaniumdave]

Well all I can say is I enjoyed the movie. I went in expecting one thing and got it but it was alittle better than i expected. Now I'm waiting to check out this rated r version dvd.

[chadtheartist]

I enjoyed the movie, but it did seem to me that there were a few things missing from the story. Mainly Weylans character. To me it seemed like they built up his role in the film for nothing. I have a strong feeling that is the sub-plot that is in the movie. I mean after-all, isn't Weylan Enterprises a huge part of the Alien movies? Maybe they found some of the tech from the Antarctic site and used that to advance their business, i.e. in Alien, Aliens, etc...

[Levitateme]

I wonder what david fincher had to say there...would be neat to hear if he said anything. also i dont like paul andersons movies ...at all, but after reading that article i have respect for him now. i am getting the dvd regardless of who directs it because its alien predator stuff, but i hope the dvd somehow does the genre justice.

[CENOBITE]

after watching ALIEN again... and the new release of Predator... AVP looks straight-to-video in comparison. Pray that Fox wakes up and hands any sequels over to a creative director in the future.

[retinajoy]

When will some of these producers learn? Didn't the suits also mess up Alien 3 and Fincher is a good director. Cutting a film 3 weeks before release to have a PG13 is not a good thing. I haven't seen the film, but those cut scenes would have probably made a better film judging by the bad reviews it is getting. I'll wait for the R rated DVD version.

"About the studio's cutting of the film, which he had no control over, he said, and I quote, "All of the best scenes were cut."

Anderson was obviously very annoyed at the way the film was released. However, this was not purely because of the PG-13 limitation, which incidentally, the studio enforced THREE WEEKS before the release date! It was always going to be R until then. Part of the reason for the cutting was that some of the effects were not ready by the time the release date came around. The effects team had very little time to do anything.

As far as the content that was cut, apparently we see all those who die, die on screen, but he also said that there is a sub-plot that we will have to wait for on DVD. Yes there will be an R-rated Director's cut DVD although they don't know the release date yet."

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/dvdnews.php?id=6055

[Kwe]

Guys....you DO realize that an R rating and more violent scenes wouldn't make this movie much better right??? Sure it'll be fun to see violence, but all the violence in the world couldn't make up for the crappy script and corny ideas that Paul W. Anderson came up with...

[Boone]

From whats said in that Q&A, the studio have really managed to **** things up again. I agree with the right-honourable Gentleman "Rentinajoy" in reference to the same thing happening to Alien3...

I think its out in a few days here in the UK, so I shall book a ticket and see for myself. I've waited many years for this film...but I think giving it a PG-13 rating sound ridiculous.

Paul can make decent( though not brilliant ) films, but giving him restrictions like this is bloody stupid. Its asking for trouble! :rolleyes:

[enygma]

well, they must have done something right because it is top movie at the weekend box office (After Princess Diaries 2 which come to think of it, doesn't say much).

http://www.imdb.com/chart/

Personally, I haven't seen it yet, and I don't intend to.

[Wolfmonster]

Is it me, or does it seem like everytime this guy decides to be intuitive, and write/direct his own movie, it comes out quite SH*TTY!. I wish he would throw in the towel, and quit. He's taken previous work (Mortal Kombat, RE, and now AvP) that has taken years to build up to the greatness that they are, and destroyed there image. I'm a huge fan of the Aliens & Predator series. I have read the science fiction books, played the games, own the movies, etc... The original stories are fantastic, and the movies are all in line with each other, except when it comes down to this donkey sh*t Paul calls "a movie". This story has got to be one of worst stories for a film, especially when the characters aren't even originally based off of the plot. If only Steve Perry were writing it, it might have been an all time great movie. I wanted to walk out, but unfortunately I was car pooling. I hope that Paul finds these posts, especially Danny Dreams post, b/c I'm sure he speaks for all of us with his quote.

No more movies for you Paul! NEXT!

[alexyork]

if you guys got a call saying you would get loads of cash to put together a mediocre movie, would you turn it down?

i wouldn't!

it provides fledgeling actors with jobs and money, studios with cash and the public with something trashy but fun that they can entertain themselves with in the summer. no harm done. there's plenty of room left for the proper stuff. not to mention that it is just a job for this director. not everyone has the same artistic passion and integrity as Cameron or Kubric etc.

in an ideal world, there would be no movies like this. everything would be done with passion and skill and every movie would be in the IMDB top 5. on the flipside, we wouldnt be so blown away when a really great movie is made. the crap movies only serve to make the great movies even greater. i frequently make a point of finding "cult" movies for this very reason.

some movies are always going to be rubbish. this was one of them. it's not Alien 5 remember, or predator 3. it's just another one of those run-of-the-mill 21st century silly action flic time-fillers with that cheesy armageddon music and male chorus bursts purely to generate cash and tide over a studio while it prepares for something big. a bit like Starship Troopers 2.

it's not big, it's not clever... but it's not meant to be!

if you want a really great movie, go see a really great movie.

fair comments on the film itself though. it is rubbish :) and it's a shame they chose two of the most amazing movies to massacre in the process. although, the originals still remain classics regardless.

no harm done.

[Kwe]

it's not big, it's not clever... but it's not meant to be!So...it wasn't meant to be big and clever when Cameron and Scott were involved with the film before Paul Anderson jumped aboard?
it's a shame they chose two of the most amazing movies to massacre in the process. although, the originals still remain classics regardless.

no harm done.Yes harm done...he gave the Alien franchise another crapper movie and the Predator franchise it's FIRST crappy movie. I admit that Predator 2 wasn't as good as Predator 1, but at least it wasn't crap like Paul W. Anderson just made.

[Neil]

Git to ze choppa!

[TumikSmacker]

Gom On IRM RIGHT HERRRRE! KLL ME!!!

[Boone]

Why do I get the feeling that when I get to finally watch this film, its going to be a different film to the one we are discussing? :shrug:

When I was forced against my will to see Resident Evil, I really thought it was going to have the exact same dialogue as the games...

"ITS A MONSTER!!!"

"Jill, I found a lockpick...its better if YOU the MASTER OF UNLOCKING, take it with you!"

"NO - DON'T COME THIS WAY!"

...yet for some reason the film had some rather decent dialogue and acting. When I watched the trailers, they had stupid WWF-style music - I really thought that they had ****-it up good and proper...but it had really atmostpheric music. The only parts of Resi that I didn't like were...

1) Slightly WWF music when they get attacked for the first time by the Zombies...
2) Dumb-ass "My sister worked for Umbrella...their ass is mine" acting...
3) Stupid bullet-time stuff!
4) The "Licker-train-attack" was great until it finally got inside - if it had got inside, they would all be dead. Simple if you have half a brain!
5) "YOU CAN WORK FOR YOUR MEAL!!!" - bull**** sequence that could have been done quicker and to better effect...

Other than that, I found it to be really good. I was really expecting it to be a real pile of **** based on reviews...but almost all the way through I was thinking "Am I watching the same film as everyone else? This is one of the best films I've seen all year!" :surprised

( I just wanna see this film to judge it myself! When is it out in the UK, I SAY!??? :banghead: )

[Geta-Ve]

boone, for the most part im with you.. i read tons of reviews of how bad such and such film is but then one day i will see it for myself and will really enjoy the flick and ill wonder what everyone was thinking?

like perhaps i dont have the same high expectations as everyone else.. but.. sad to say i really do like to enjoy watching films.. i think alot of people expect to much :shrug:

im just easy going i guess...

did anyone else enjoy freddy verse jason? i know i did :D

[iainbanks]

I thought RE was quite good too. I know it isn't exactly a film making masterpiece but i went into the film wanting to see some zombie killing action with some kickass music thrown in and thats what i got.

And some might say that AVP is on the same level as RE (and some ways it is ), but i just did...not...like...this..film..at...all!

Talk about the thinnest script. This film could have been so much better. The people making it should have gone and watched "The Thing" for some inspiration.

I'm not sure what film is worse AVP or Deep Rising.


Geta-Ve - "did anyone else enjoy freddy verse jason? i know i did"

Hanvent seen that film yet but its anything like JasonX then i'll be avoiding it at all costs.

[DannyDreams]

Elementol....you liked Resident Evil but not Jason X.....that boggles the mind my friend. What was the techno not good enough? :D

[iainbanks]

C'mon dude jason X was pure channel 5 (budget).

[DannyDreams]

C'mon dude jason X was pure channel 5 (budget).
Cause we all know the budget is what makes a fine a movie. :rolleyes:

[iainbanks]

Fair enough ..plenty of good movies have been made on a low budget...

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the thing is the film could have been made on whatever budget, still doesnt make the film any better.

[DannyDreams]

the thing is the film could have been made on whatever budget, still doesnt make the film any better.
The horrible sounds of techno music blairing while boring looking zombies get shot by Michelle Rodriguez don't make a movie good either.

[iainbanks]

Yeah but mila jovovich was in the film reason enough to go see it.

[DannyDreams]

Yeah but mila jovovich was in the film reason enough to go see it.
Okay I'll give you that one. :thumbsup:

[Stahlberg]

Someone mentioned the lame killing of Weyland, another amazing blooper: "The aztec calender was decimal so in 10 minutes I think everything will shift around again (even though it's only happened once so far)". Huh? When did hours and minutes become decimal? What's the likelyhood the aztecs (or their ancestors which this was supposed to be) used them anyway? And what reason did this amazingly correct prediction have to be in the movie? It certainly didn't help them. :)

[Corth]

lol, I didn't even pay that much attention to that decimal calender part...

Anyway, these comments are kinda spoilers so I'll make them a color that hopefully blends in with the bg, just highlight to read I guess.

I thought the movie was good, until the part where the girl befriended the predator, after that it was complete and utter crap. And will there ever be a good movie with aliens in it that the only survivor is a lone girl? The bitch in AvP should have died a horrible horrible death... twice.

[Badllarma]

Yeah but mila jovovich was in the film reason enough to go see it.

and so was Michelle Rodriguez which is why I went :thumbsup:

To be honest of what is being said here I went to see IRobot with the same feelings and really enjoyed it (no one was more shocked than me!) At the end of the day it IS art and every indervidual can form there own opinions and ideas on the subject matter. :)

[CPUxtc1]

I was on here nearly a year ago telling people this movie would suck big time.
I predicted that because of the director and the cast and the plot and the time and place it was suppose to happen that this movie would be horrible. It was the most expensive piece of crap I'd ever seen though, it was worse than I thought it would be.
Calling it a b grade movie would be an insult to b grade movies. It was worse than even those Scream movies.
I would rather have had my skin sand blasted off and dipped in a vat of saline solution while at the same time be sodomized by rabid ferrits than have to sit through that movie.
It was an insult to both Alien and Predator fans.
Anyone who was even remotely entertained by that travisty has absolutely no taste and should be shot on site, they are the reason for the downfall of great cinema scifi and horror flicks. Wes Anderson needs to be captured, and strapped to a chair to be forced to watch his own piece of crap while recordings of people play who hated the movie while each of his finger and toe nails are slowly ripped off and his loins slowly sawed of with a dull kitchen knife and while at the same time be covered with sugar with a bucket of fire ants let loose underneith him.
As you can tell I am beyond insulted as an original Alien fan and Predator enthusiast.
:banghead:

[Kid-Mesh]

I was on here nearly a year ago telling people this movie would suck big time.
I predicted that because of the director and the cast and the plot and the time and place it was suppose to happen that this movie would be horrible. It was the most expensive piece of crap I'd ever seen though, it was worse than I thought it would be.
Calling it a b grade movie would be an insult to b grade movies. It was worse than even those Scream movies.
I would rather have had my skin sand blasted off and dipped in a vat of saline solution while at the same time be sodomized by rabid ferrits than have to sit through that movie.
It was an insult to both Alien and Predator fans.
Anyone who was even remotely entertained by that travisty has absolutely no taste and should be shot on site, they are the reason for the downfall of great cinema scifi and horror flicks. Wes Anderson needs to be captured, and strapped to a chair to be forced to watch his own piece of crap while recordings of people play who hated the movie while each of his finger and toe nails are slowly ripped off and his loins slowly sawed of with a dull kitchen knife and while at the same time be covered with sugar with a bucket of fire ants let loose underneith him.
As you can tell I am beyond insulted as an original Alien fan and Predator enthusiast.
:banghead:

pffft....relax

[Joebount]

really spiritual and inspired post, very constructive. Watch your words !

[Boone]

Re: CPUxtc1.

Well, at least you gave it a chance. :thumbsup:

[Neil]

wait, so is this an AvP discussion or Resident Evil? ;)

I personally don't understand how I just saw the RE trailer on TV yesterday and did not see ONE zombie!! HUH?!

[CPUxtc1]

Actually Boone,
The only reason I went to see it was because this girl I work with asked me on a date and suggested we go see it because she was a fan of the game.... I was thrilled.... and even more so when she also thought the movie sucked.

But then again I did spend the $9 bucks and didn't put up a fight.... was I just trying to get laid or did I really want the movie to be good? It's hard to figure this one out. or is it?

[CPUxtc1]

Joebount,
was that for me? Watch my words? Spiritual and inspired??????
I was trying to be distructive, oh well, what can I do....

[Boone]

Re: CPUxtc1.

You were trying to get laid. :)

[Geta-Ve]

I watched the movie last week, and liked it :p even though I think im the only one that did... but it was pretty much what I expected :)

though that one predetor, as bad ass as he was he was a pansie for not going coastal and blowing the whole place apart with him inside...PANSIE!

[SilverSpark]

I just watched the movie today, I have no clue why, but I did, let me tell you it was a waste of time. If my objectives for the day were to watch a really crappy franchise based cinematic butchery, then I got my moneys worth, however I didnt. This movie had terrible pacing and lack of any real character developments(that whole my kids crap was just filler), every thing came and went like that. Not to mention the countless cheesy scenes, like when there was that akward laughing moment before they arrived. I think the real title of this movie is Paul Anderson Vs The Fans.

[CPUxtc1]

I wish I had the opportunity to write an Alien script, I could write a better script in my sleep, in fact my script would blow every other script away, except the first movie but it would be a different movie so it wouldn't matter.
I sound nerdy :drool:

[Gunnah]

"I wish I had the opportunity to write an Alien script, I could write a better script in my sleep, in fact my script would blow every other script away, except the first movie but it would be a different movie so it wouldn't matter.
I sound nerdy :drool:"

well then write it if you're that confident :)

I was quite entertained by the movie myself, exactly like a couple of the book series were (in fact, one of the books had the "inking" of the lead chick with the alien blood (although, it happend in a different place, not in this pyrimid thing). Just dont go in expecting the be all and end all, it's pure fluff, with big ass explosions. :)


G

[CPUxtc1]

Honestly I already have written an Alien script. Three to be exact in a series. Each one takes off where the other left off but with a different character each time. Loosely based on the comic books and majorly influenced by the first Alien. I added some Evil Dead 2 type jokes in a couple scenes of one of the scripts concerning one of the main characters. There is even some answers to some of the questions from the first movie, like where did the aliens come from and where is the dead space jockey from in the third script.
I did one for a screen writing class I was taking and when we were reading our scripts in class everyone thoroughly loved it. They were entertained by just the read of it. I wish I could cast some of the people in my class, they read it brilliantly. I was rolling on the floor laughing at the comedic scenes, I wanted them to be funny but didn't realize how funny till they were read.
The whole thing is very epic.
Sorry, no Ripley. We don't need the same hero over and over again.
What? Do you need your mommy? You little Bi.... but I digress, LOL.

[CPUxtc1]

I don't understand how someone can be entertained by this piece of trash. It was a complete travesty, done in the worst way possible. Yes it was action packed, yes it had our two favorite characters, yes it told us who the Weland (minus Yutani) Corperation came from.... but it created more holes than it filled in there... and it had had some great special effects.
Too bad the whole movie was complete and total CRAP.
It was a parody of all the Alien and Predator movies. I think Anderson wished he had made the Alien Movies and was jealous so he wanted to recreate stuff and failed in making it even as close to as good as even the worst Alien Movie.
Sad.
I have way too many complaints about this movie, and I know it's not my high expectations I wasn't expecting this movie to be good (honestly I knew it would suck) and it was worse than I thought it would be.

[hypercube]

Are you just going to keep flogging away at this with essentially the same post every week or so forever?

[CPUxtc1]

Maybe....
It's called being passionate.
I suppose I should talk about something else on some other post... well I do usually, just on other forums, but here it seems to be the theme with me.

I hate Anderson and I hate what he did to the story even more than I hate him... Damn so much hate, LOL, it's not litteral hate obviously, I wouldn't kill him. I would burn the movie so that no one could watch it ever again, though.

Are you that annoyed with my posts?????
LOL.

[Frank Lake]

travesty

BHAHAHAHAHA! How can ANY action movie NOT be a travesty? Just face it you can't make gold from shit and you sure as hell can't make a 'GOOD' movie from two action movies!!!

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