Cel Shading Tutorial DVD?

[Triple G]

Sounds good to me, man...I'd be willing to check it out. :thumbsup:

[gruvsyco]

If you were going to do something... It'd be nice to see your multipass rendering techniques as well as how you do post. While your Celshading looks nice, I think it'd be a better sell if it was geared toward giving the viewer insight into achieving something similar to your visual style. I love the way your final renders look.

[nostromo_va]

Count me in!

[yakumo]

yes yes yes fricking yes!!!

Love to see a more 'anime' approach if possible.

[grafikdon]

That ain't a bad idea at all. Been looking forward to such a thing and like gruvsyco said, I like your visual style but find it difficult to get similar result.

[pelos]

NICE!!! i like the idea!

[Fongool]

Chalk up another one in the YES!! column! :bounce:

I'd particularly be interested in the modelling for Celshading and learning more about the depths of the Unreal CelPainter interface. Maybe some BESM too since there's no documentation to be found anywhere.... :shrug:

I think it would be cool to specifically see how you get your look, but not at the expense of detailed general info. I'd rather see a broad reaching overview of possibilities than a narrow-focus "Cel Shade the Shade01 way" tutorial.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, I'm just not as interested in being temped to merely swipe your style! :D

[Fasty]

I like the idea, but will it be limited to anime style celshading, or would it delve into other hand-drawn like styles? Honestly I don't think I'd buy it because celshading for me has always been about finding an original, unique style which I don't think can be tought. I'm sure there would be a market for it though.

[private]

I can't find much information in the format of video learning concerning cel shading, so yes, I think it would be a good asset to the community, especially if it's in the Lost Pencil price range.

[dragonfollower]

I'd buy it. Definitely.

-Brian

[dalecampbelljr]

I too would be interested, price it to sell!
Dale

[Shade01]

Sweet, I'm glad there is some interest. I may take the format of producing a short film and giving tutorials on how the scenes were put together, making sure I've covered the things I mentioned above. I'm not sure what the price would be, but I'm thinking $20 would be the most I'd sell it for, and that would probably depend on the final runtime of everything.

[jutland]

Oh yes, this would a welcome DVD. I would like to get my art up to the level of Appleseed or the new Ghost in the Shell. (Or anywhere close to that quality)

[Orkman]

You're a nice guy Shade. I hate the $70-90 pricetag on DVDs. Some are worth it, and some are not. Your style is wicked and I would be interested as well.

[ArtisticVisions]

Certainly sounds very interesting; I'd definately pay money for something like that.

[policarpo]

Sounds like a great idea...but what you should do is finish ultraviolent and sell that DVD and offer a making of and go like gang busters on training stuff after that.

Don't focus on doing training DVD's now until your baby is done and sharing itself with the world. :thumbsup:

BTW: It was great meeting you Shade...thanks for the conversations. :applause:

[cresshead]

count me in as a definate for a dvd.

wold be great to see a celshade dvd training material..it's sooooooo rare!

stee

[Remi]

Sounds like a great idea...but what you should do is finish ultraviolent and sell that DVD and offer a making of and go like gang busters on training stuff after that.

Don't focus on doing training DVD's now until your baby is done and sharing itself with the world. :thumbsup:

BTW: It was great meeting you Shade...thanks for the conversations. :applause:

I'm for that....:)

[kaiten]

Would find a dvd of this kind most beneficial :D

[PhilWesson]

ya sold me. i'd buy.

[CTRL+X]

It would be great,, just make sure the screen grabs are of good quality,,, I purchased a series of DVD's awhile back and without naming names was baffled at the quality ( or lack there of)

the technical information was superb and professional, but the images in video sucked ,made me question if I would ever spend close to 300 again for a handful CD's

[SPIDER2544]

for 20 bucks you got your self a sale from me

i tihnk it would be great to cover a bunch of diffrent styles from anime to like bugs bunny style stuff
also shading some vehicles and things like that

one other thing i think might be nice is if the DVD came with the plugins already on the disk cause some times it can be a pain to hunt down plugins

[WeirdoStudio]

I have been admiring the trailer for Ultraviolent for sometime now.. I think instead of a dvd how about you finish the movie?? don't take that disrespectfully, but i think once people see exactly what your capable of they would be more interested in your technique.. I myself can't wait to see Ultraviolent. i think the visuals are really impressive so finish this first and it would add to your credibility.. :thumbsup:

[Celshader]

wold be great to see a celshade dvd training material..it's sooooooo rare!
Lord knows I was looking for celshader training materials when I started learning LightWave. I hated the way I drew, and I thought celshading would be an easier way to "draw."

I've since found a hidden catch to celshading. I need to know what a good drawing looks like if I want my renders (http://www.celshader.com/gallery/lore/) to look like good drawings. No one builds a car or human without reference...no one should "build" a drawing without reference, either. It would be like shooting in the dark. Maybe the results would look hand-drawn...or maybe it would look like a 3D model with a toon shader slapped onto it. If I don't know what a drawing looks like, I'll never know if I'm doing something right or wrong.

The #1 thing that improved my celshading over the past few years has been studying drawings and, ironically, trying to learn how to draw well (http://www.celshader.com/gallery/gesture/jenny-dove-sphinx.gif). Animation drawing classes (http://www.mpsc839.org/_Classes/Classes_h/classesFRM.html), animation books (http://www.cartoon-factory.com/Media/Books/), how-to-draw books (http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/htbooks.html) and studying well-drawn cartoons have all helped me do a better job at "tricking" people into accepting my renders as drawings.

Knowing how to use the tools on a technical level (http://www.celshader.com/learning.html) is critical, but it means nothing if one lacks good reference (http://www.animationmeat.com/index2.html) when trying to recreate a drawing.

That said, I'd buy a Shade01 celshader training DVD. If I can learn even one new trick from a book or DVD, I consider my money well-spent. Shade01 has far more experience with the unReal celshader than I do, and he might have some nice unReal tips or tricks to share. :)

But folks...study everything you can about drawing and hand-drawn animation!!! When it comes to celshading, it'll pay off big-time. :thumbsup:

[maddness]

sounds good to me...

[Cman]

Can't wait to see it!

@celshader, thanks for all the great links! ^_^

[Zeicon]

Show me the money! Sounds interesting...

[ArtisticVisions]

Any updates on this idea, Shade?

[grafikdon]

Any updates on this idea, Shade?

Was thinking about the same things a couple of days ago.

[Shade01]

Hey guys, it's still something I want to do, but work and freelance work intrude upon my spare time. I am laying the blueprint for the dvd though. :)

[grafikdon]

Hey guys, it's still something I want to do, but work and freelance work intrude upon my spare time. I am laying the blueprint for the dvd though. :)

I hear ya, man.

BTW Any updates on the UV? (Ultraviolent). Keeping my fingers crossed.

[brap]

Just let me know when it's ready! :)

-Jamie

[PhilWesson]

Shade,

whenever you're ready man... I know a lot of people are very very excited about this. I sure am.

[Gpalz]

Would be nice to learn for a starter like me. Copying your style wouldn't be of interest. Knowing the tools and basic techniques to allow us to develop our own style would.

As noted earlier, any shareware plugins you use outside of Lightwave would be nice to include too. Thanks

George
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[berilac]

just like to say i also think this is a great idea. i've been trying to learn unreal with a fair bit of difficulty.

certainly, i'd love to learn more about celpainter.

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