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Ramon
07-28-2004, 04:02 AM
Hello everyone. Here are a couple of new concept drawings:

http://www.ramonart.com/graphics_site/illustrations_folder/jetcar.jpg

http://www.ramonart.com/graphics_site/illustrations_folder/robot2LR.jpg

maxou
07-28-2004, 07:52 AM
ouch! :eek:
sooooooo beautyful (i prefer the first one)

olijosman
07-28-2004, 07:58 AM
Very good design, I prefer the first too :applause:

direndra
07-28-2004, 10:37 AM
.....amazing .........!!!"
really good concept drawings :thumbsup: !!!"

Dead_Last
07-28-2004, 11:45 AM
Very nice concept sketches. I prefer the first one as well.

Nemoid
07-28-2004, 12:46 PM
Cool sketches for sure. great technique. quite similar to Alex Ross.

the first one is really good as a concept, really better than the second one wich may need some more work on general proportions to get really cool.

Ramon
07-28-2004, 05:25 PM
Hey! Is is great feeback! Thanks y'all. I love to know other artist's take on ideas, concept and delivery. Thanks for the responses! :) It really helps to know what is liked and disliked.
I know I will sound silly but, who is Alex Ross? I'm a bit sheltered I guess.
Here is another one from my gallery:
http://www.ramonart.com/graphics_site/illustrations_folder/robot_smaller.jpg

http://www.ramonart.com/graphics_site/illustrations_folder/fighter.jpg

This #3 is a sketch concept of a space fighter which I drew about 3 years ago. I just like the design:
http://www.ramonart.com/graphics_site/illustrations_folder/spacefighter.jpg

titmarlau
07-28-2004, 10:05 PM
Very nice is all i can say, great pencil work, i like detail too so is thumbs up from me.

Id say the first ship and the last bot with tracks are far the best its just the detail man

Cool.

Ramon
07-29-2004, 02:22 AM
Very nice is all i can say, great pencil work, i like detail too so is thumbs up from me.

Id say the first ship and the last bot with tracks are far the best its just the detail man

Cool.Hey Thanks! I love this feedback, it's great. I love knowing why you like some over the others, that's very helpful for my future drawings and design ideas.
Thanks you all!

dragunzng
07-29-2004, 05:12 AM
Very nice. Haven't seen this style in use since the 80's! It's quite refreshing though. I'd LOVE to see some of those designs translated to 3D and used in a movie.

merdzan
07-29-2004, 09:09 AM
beatuful consept,nice job:thumbsup:

Ramon
07-29-2004, 05:35 PM
Wow, thanks y'all! :)

So which one(s) do you like the best? I'm very curious. It's so helpful to know.
You all are great, thanks for the responces!

dragunzng (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=17933): Yes, I would like to build the first one at the top - the speeder car coincidentally, that is my latest concept drawing. Just finished it last week - took me a day and a half. But, I didn't work on it straight. The engine area has a lot of detail.

SebastianPatric
07-29-2004, 09:55 PM
good detail and cool concepts, but you still have some perspective issues on two of the ships.

Ramon
07-29-2004, 11:58 PM
Thanks!:)
I don't use rulers or perspective lines (ie: horizon lines and rulered vanishing points) I just eye it however, though I don't use rulers, I do visualize the perspectives before I start, draw a few light guide lines and continually monitor the process throughout the drawing. These are concepts drawings so I don't need them to be mathematically perfect. That's what 3D apps are for :D.
I draw concepts to describe the idea/shape/concept.
Though I am curious, what part of the two that you mentioned do you see the perspective problem? Not that I could fix them at this point but, it would help for future drawings.
Thanks for the response! I appreciate the feedback.

SteveV
07-30-2004, 03:31 AM
Nice work Ramon, I love a good pencils sketch, there's nowhere to hide when it's just you and a pencil.

I can't for the life of me see the "perspective issues" in the two ships, although (it might be just me, but) there seems to be something wrong perspective wise in the tracks of the completed robot.

Great job mate!

X-WARRIOR
07-30-2004, 07:18 PM
Hi,

I was in awe in front of your jetcar sketch and I was asking myself if you could give me the permission to model it..if I do model it, it won't be in the next days tho but when I get some free time in a month maybe. I'll see. I hope i'll receive an affirmative answer from you, but you,re the boss! :P

will be waiting for an answer...

HanDron
07-30-2004, 08:00 PM
I like your work a lot. I have always had a soft spot for sketches like these. I showed them to my son for inspiration because he is just starting to draw as well. He really enjoyed them. Can't wait to see others as you progress. :thumbsup:

umutguncan
07-30-2004, 08:50 PM
Nice drawings!!

Ramon
07-30-2004, 09:38 PM
Thanks guys! :)
x-warrior: Actually, it's funny, I am planning on building it as well, but, sure you can, I would only ask that you mention me as the concept designer when displaying it. I'm honored. Thanks.
I've been drawing my whole life, well, since I was 3 I think? Anyways, it's in the blood and it's my life.

Here's another little silly creation of mine, tough to pet though:
http://www.ramonart.com/graphics_site/illustrations_folder/horn_lizard_smaller.jpg

SebastianPatric
07-31-2004, 09:51 PM
It really is a minor thing but here is what I meant in my previous post:

+The first ship in this post - the nose of the ship has a rounded shape. Keeping this in mind, it still appears to curve towards the point of view. The outline of the side beyond the point makes it so.

+The second drawing of the second set (under the robot with tracks) - The small attachments on the wings are angled differently. (I must stress that this is a very minor detail). You also started a trend of making the left (the ship's right) inner wing shrink with distance, but you did not continue this with the anterior part. This, combined with the gun mounted on the wings causes the left (ship's right) wing to seem like it sticks out too much, though it actually doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I love your work. Just trying to help.

Ramon
08-03-2004, 02:48 PM
Hey J.S:
No worries, I appreciate the detailed responce. I see what you are talking about and I believe that the wing of the spacefighter (under the robot with tracks) is an optical illusion due to the angle of the wing in direct conjunction with the perspective. In this perticular case, the combination of the two make for an odd visual.
The first image (jetcar) - thanks for the thumbnail- I think I know what you mean. I am carring along the curve shape that's just above that front "grill". It's not a v, I would say the shape I'm trying to describe (imagine from a top view perspective) is that of a U with a more tapered and to a point - curve. I hope that made sense. Due to that curve and from the camera's perspective, that's why you see the slightly curved outer line behind the nose's center line (which I didn't draw on purpose - though I gave a slight indication of that center line with the discontinueation and disturbance of the reflection line. I hope this is what you were talking about because if not, I went off on a tangent for which I'd be sorry.

umutguncan (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=17319): Thanks!:bounce:

HanDron (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=22998): Thank you! :thumbsup: Glad you like them and I wish the best for you and your son. I would love to offer you some great pearls of wisdom but, I'm not sure any of these will be :
I started when I was very very young (drawing that is). The fine art talent is also from both sides of my family (that helps) but, I think that desire and a love to draw is right up there with creativity. Practice is extremely important. Usually, the more you draw, the better you become at it (as I guess, like in most things). One thing that is crutial is an eye for observation. When you see things, I try to remember them in a detailed 3 dimensional way. That's also the way I draw - in a 3 dimensional thought kind of way. Seeing forms/shapes instead of flat lines. I guess that's how most people draw so I don't know if I am helping much.
Thanks for you comment and my best to you and your son.

WARRIOR-X: I would love to see any work you do on it. (I have to make a name for that concept, jetcar isn't cutting it). vbmenu_register("postmenu_1477370", true);
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