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scorpion007
07-16-2004, 12:11 PM
Hello,
I have this question that was bugging me for a very long time now: What is the difference between discreet's 4 compositing systems? Inferno, flame, flint, and combustion.
This is the description that discreet gives:
inferno - the ultimate interactive design system for high-resolution visual effects
flame - industry-leading real-time visual effects design and compositing system
flint - advanced visual effects system for post-production and broadcast graphics
combustion - comprehensive desktop software for motion graphics, compositing and visual effects

As far as I can these all mean the same thing, just rephrased slightly. For example: flint says it is 'advanced' and for 'post-production' and broadcast graphics, so what? Does that mean the rest are not advanced and are not used for post-production? And the term high-resolution is up to the user, as he specifies the res. Furthermore the term 'real-time' really applies to all of them, depending on your system specs... So all of this really confused me. Could someone clarify what exactly is going on with this?

Thanks

[Edit] Also, just remembered, what exactly would lustre do that the color correctors in discreet's compositing systems do not?


[EDIT2] Ah, just found another thread explaining this. Mods can delete this if they want.

Jack Pfeiffer
07-21-2004, 10:57 AM
Hello

Here's a rundown of the differences between: Inferno, flame, flint, combustion and lustre.

Indeed, many of these products share similiar features and functions, as they share core Discreet technology such as the discreet keyer, color corrector, tracker, etc.. Note that of ALL of these products, ONLY Combustion is software only. And ONLY combustion is Windows/MAC built. The other systems tend to be sold only as turn-key systems that includes the SGI (Irix) computer and accessories, such as storage, etc.

1) inferno 5.5 - Partial listing of new key features in inferno 5.5:
Master Keyer - Next generation intuitive keying technology, 10-bit RGB media support, Improved Colour Warper, Advanced GMask Gradients added to Discreet Keyer, New Logic Ops options (transparency, blend and divide,) Additional burn-in capabilities added to Burn-In Tool, EDL Editor enhancements and expanded tools including EDL conversion, Multi-tape archiving, apabilities - now includes archiving to 720P tape, Support for Discreet's burn background processing solution, High performance 4-8 CPU SGI ONYX 350 with support for IR4 graphics subsystem with real-time 8/10-bit 4:4:4 ITU-R 601 standard-definition and SMPTE 292M HDTV I/O. Support for 2K 10-bit film playback.
Read MORE about inferno here: http://www4.discreet.com/inferno/inferno.php?id=195 (http://www4.discreet.com/inferno/inferno.php?id=195)

2) flame 8.5 -- Partial listing of new key features in flame 8.5
Master Keyer - Next generation intuitive keying technology, 10-bit RGB media support, Improved Colour Warper, Advanced GMask Gradients added to Discreet Keyer, New Logic Ops options (transparency, blend and divide,) Additional burn-in capabilities added to Burn-In Tool, EDL Editor enhancements and expanded tools including EDL conversion, Multi-tape archiving capabilities - now includes archiving to 720P tape, Support for Discreet's burn background processing solution, High performance dual/quad processor SGI Tezro, v12 graphics subsystem and real-time 8/10-bit 4:4:4: ITU-R 601 standard-definition and SMPTE 292M HDTV I/O. Support for 2K 10-bit film playback.
Read MORE about flame here: http://www4.discreet.com/flame/flame.php?id=181 (http://www4.discreet.com/flame/flame.php?id=181)


3) flint 8.5 - Partial listing of new key features in flint 8.5:
Master Keyer - Next generation intuitive keying technology, Improved Colour Warper, Advanced GMask Gradients added to Discreet Keyer, New Logic Ops options (transparency, blend and divide,) Additional burn-in capabilities added to Burn-In Tool, EDL Editor enhancements and expandedtools including EDL conversion, Multi-tape archiving capabilities - now includes archiving to 720P tape, Support for Discreet's burn background processing solution, Utilizes the SGI Octane2, v10 graphics subsystem and real-time 4:4:4: ITU-R 601 PAL/NTSC standard definition video I/0
Read MORE about flint here: http://www4.discreet.com/flint/flint.php?id=188 (http://www4.discreet.com/flint/flint.php?id=188)

4) Discreet combustion 3 offers the creative tools, speed and interactivity that professionals need and artists crave and combines Paint, animation, editing and 3D compositing in an integrated environment based on Discreet's legendary user interface. Available as software for WINDOWS or MAC, combustion 3 is the best solution for creating effects and motion graphics for video, film, DVD, and the web.
Read more about combustion here: http://www4.discreet.com/combustion/ (http://www4.discreet.com/combustion/)

5) lustre 2 - professional Color grading - - key features

- Real-time 2K Primary Color Grading and Playback
- Resolution Independence (including 2K and 4K)
- High Quality 16-bit/Component Image Processing
- Intuitive Interface and Hardware Control Surface
- Comprehensive Primary and Secondary Grading Capabilities
- Calibratible Printer Light (Logarithmic) Grading Tools
- Unlimited Vector Shapes, Keying and Tracking in Secondaries
- Advanced Shape Tools for Non-uniform Light/Color Fall-off
- Visual Timeline: Conform and Editing Capabilities
- Input, Output and Monitor/Projector Calibration
- Open 3D-Mesh Calibration Engine with Support for Third Party (Kodak, ARRI) and Custom Color Management Systems
- Fast, Automated Dust Busting Tools
- Standard and High Definition 10-bit Video I/O (RGB)
- Dual Link 1920x1080 4:4:4 and HSDL Interfaces
- 3:2 Pull Down and Insertion
- Advanced Proxy System with High Quality Proxy Generation
- Non-Linear Collaborative Workflow
- Turnkey System with Support for Slave Rendering and Render Farms for Additional Processing Power
- Background Render Nodes to accelerate the time to completion of complex look creation and design tasks
Ream more about lustre here: http://www4.discreet.com/lustre/lustre.php?id=202 (http://www4.discreet.com/lustre/lustre.php?id=202)

regards,
Jack
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