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Rivendale
07-14-2004, 01:18 PM
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Title: Ring Of Many Connections, Rivendale (3D)
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Comments and crits are welcome.
CML

EdHarriss
07-14-2004, 01:20 PM
- Well, what can I say... that's just wierd.
- I do like the cobwebs and the fur a lot.
- Those mushrooms are very nice too.
- The tree doesn't seem to fit as well as everything else does.
- The metal seems like it is reflecting a little too much.

MuzzzY
07-14-2004, 01:42 PM
its Fantastic. :applause:

Sqwall
07-14-2004, 03:03 PM
Wierd! But Nice.

Rivendale
07-14-2004, 03:05 PM
Thanks!
Ed- yeah I noticed that about the tree, it was a bit bright I think, but I updated with a quick fix on it. Thanks.

CML

JeroenDStout
07-14-2004, 03:33 PM
It's great!

HocusPocus
07-14-2004, 05:50 PM
very good!
the concept is very cool, and the technics too.]
i liked the fur...

blacknoise
07-14-2004, 05:59 PM
rivendale i really enjoy your works. great.

da_rock21
07-14-2004, 06:23 PM
wow, now that is jst crazy....


i love it and at the same time am deaply disturbed by it. :twisted:
awsome man...

MKane
07-14-2004, 08:42 PM
Thats Wicked Surreal. The cobwebs look very nice.

Naramsina
07-14-2004, 09:36 PM
Ooooo, an ouroboros! Well, sort of... Is the light in the middle supposed to symbolize something?

Capel
07-14-2004, 10:28 PM
the drip of blood could be tweaked a bit, maybe make the middle a little thinner, but other than that, freakin' awesome. VERY creative....

Rivendale
07-15-2004, 12:30 AM
Thanks a lot for the kindness all!

Is the light in the middle supposed to symbolize something?
Narasima- Yeah, it's the warm light coming from the inside, shielding from the cold light of reality...
nah, heh maybe not that deep but it is the warm contrast against the cold blue from the outside.
ouroboro...didn't know of that concept, but I guess it is something like that.

I will be back tomorrow to post some wires and stuff if you're interested, good night...
CML

Demolish
07-15-2004, 12:56 AM
Thats awsome, great style!

nothing bad with it, just perfect.

Markski
07-15-2004, 01:10 AM
thats cooL!!! what do you dream about at night?

ambas
07-15-2004, 01:14 AM
Awsome man! i like the style!
fur and cobwebs look great

Rivendale
07-15-2004, 12:14 PM
Thank you very much.
I have a few extra shots here so you can see a bit how it was done...
Wireframe:
http://hem.bredband.net/b213713/Website/web/connectionswire.jpg
Flatshaded:
http://hem.bredband.net/b213713/Website/web/connectionsflat.jpg
and a testrender for the machinepart, using a different environment than the final image:
http://hem.bredband.net/b213713/Website/web/connectmachine.jpg

cheers, CML

Big_E.D.
07-15-2004, 12:26 PM
i have only one problem: that is really strange. but its a good problem. GJ

Mayer
07-15-2004, 12:29 PM
Nice. I like it. But... it's not your original idea yah?
I have seen a picture like it (with other construction) called Ring of Imagination. Or did you make that too? I can't remember the artist's name.

MaYer

Big_E.D.
07-15-2004, 12:38 PM
i remember that one. i dont know if its the same guy, but i had the picture your talking about as my desktop background for a while. it too was just as strange.

AidanGibbons
07-15-2004, 12:39 PM
Gees its the same guy people! http://hem.bredband.net/b213713/Website/sites/imagine.htm

Brilliant work again :) Very imaginative

Big_E.D.
07-15-2004, 12:51 PM
the clothw as replaced by a bunch of webs, the blackened animal skull with a real creature, still a human face (holding the bridge this time), and a light source still in the middle.


im lovin this pic as much as i did the first one. GJ again dude :)

creative destructions
07-15-2004, 12:51 PM
5 stars from me. Would love an animation.

ivanNYC
07-15-2004, 02:07 PM
Really good, I love teh style, dark, animal, machine, bizzare...very cool

EdySusanto
07-15-2004, 02:07 PM
Nice.... really inspiring :)

doublerr
07-15-2004, 02:19 PM
what the story behind this ring? u should publish a book or wherever " the 'real lord' -of the ring" hahaha, nice!!

Branko
07-15-2004, 02:30 PM
incredible... very spooky. THe singular sort of hue adds to the over all effect of eerie space.

As for crits, I feel that the metal might be just a tad too shiny, but I hesitate in telling you to tone it down because it may retract from the overall impact.
The fact that the render seems exceedingly raw at the moment really appeals to me.

-rasdasa

DAREONER
07-15-2004, 02:39 PM
héhé, very strange conception, i like that, abstract art, the render is perfect

very good job

berniebernie
07-15-2004, 02:40 PM
pepepepepleaaase can we have a hi-quality version ?

Irratio
07-15-2004, 03:07 PM
My title suggestion: "Oil to oil."
*agression* *iraq war* *rot* *drive* *forwhat*


I like it very much. I think the colour composition is not as balanced as you did it
in that ring with the piano-playing mouse. I agree with ed harriss: the tree and
the bridge, together with that bulb in the middle gave me a feeling of a cover art
for a scientistic learning game for children :). Perhaps because they look too nice,
I don't know. I like the cooler left part of the picture, and the look of the weasel.
Did you try out living eyes, with a pupil (they must be really good rendered).

I saw the flatshaded ring and there, the bridge as a thin connection creates a
good contrast between the upper and the lower pieces of the ring. I think this
suspense vanished in the final image because the colour contrast between the
bridge and the space behind is too small and you can't see anymore it's thin.
As an impression, in the flatshaded image, the bridge reminded me a bit of a
spine, maybe of the weasel.

Personally, I don't like the bright flare in upper left corner. It disturbs the geometrical
balance of the image created by the ring.

For the machine part I would suggest some kind of patina which makes it older
and fit to the cool organic stuff. Or, instead of patina, less of reflection and more
green.

Garma
07-15-2004, 03:09 PM
well I don't think it surprises anyone if I say I knew who made this without looking at your name :) really good picture, I love your style of surrealism.

JWood
07-15-2004, 03:21 PM
Sweet work. The rotty flesh part (11 o'clock) is pleasantly yucky but not barfy gross, the weasle head - viscious! The fence has a nice tactile feel. I disagree with the comment about the tree being out of place, I think it works and is needed to draw the eye inward (break the flow around and around). I'd consider making the rope not one straight line across, but tied to two or three other rope lines, like an inverted "Y" or peace sign. Power on!

gavinb
07-15-2004, 03:31 PM
My god, that is fantasic, reminds me of myself in the morning, i hope u gave yourself a gleeful pat on the pack when u had finished

Lifthz
07-15-2004, 03:37 PM
Wow! Looks amazing man. A figment of imagination! http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

azozel
07-15-2004, 03:38 PM
It looks great and vivid but it makes me want to go to my happy place.:surprised

Naseem
07-15-2004, 03:51 PM
very creepy and very good work, i like it

Ayanala
07-15-2004, 04:15 PM
:) I like the weirdness of it... the way all is connected.

about the tree that someone said it didn't fit... I would put some cobwebs connecting it to the bridge...

I like it. good job.

Wilson-3d
07-15-2004, 04:22 PM
Very exciting piece. A real piece of art.

EricLyman
07-15-2004, 04:24 PM
nice to see some creativity! All too often this site is clogged with race cars, etc.. Sort of reminds me of a Stephen King series I'm reading: "The Dark Tower" (books 1-7)

good job mate!

mattmos
07-15-2004, 04:33 PM
Another great surreal piece of work! The rope seems a little oversized to me, but then again as the scale in this piece is hardly normal I guess it's irrelevant ;) Keep them coming :beer:

Dutchman
07-15-2004, 04:34 PM
I was about to post: 'Hmm, you must have been inspirated by the 'Reign of Imagination'', but now I see you was the same guy! :) Your work is always stunning, and this one is like every other masterpiece of you! :) I really like it! This is real art!

Tnx for sharing it!

[You've also inspirated me; I'm trying to make such a surreal pic also :) ]

future14
07-15-2004, 06:00 PM
great piece of works man! SURREALISTIC!!!

the web is good man!

BNelso
07-15-2004, 06:32 PM
I love this ring as much as the last one, could you post a wireframe so we can see how this all came together?

Rivendale
07-15-2004, 06:43 PM
Wow, I'm really happy with all the great feedback and your thoughts on this. And thanks for the frontpage plug as well!:)

doublerr- There's not so much of a story behind it, it is what it is really, but maybe more of a concept. I was trying to push my limits and my imagination, and tried to never take the easy way out in the process. Of course the imagination really has no limits and that's what's making stuff like this so fun. Anything goes. I find it liberating to throw all rules out the door and just do my own thing. Also I'm fascinated by the stranger/darker sides of life, because it adds a nice flavour to my view of the world.:wise:

mlkdesign- I will post a link to a high-res image later tonight.

bnelso- I've posted the wireframe, it's on page 2.

Thanks again

CML

elnady
07-15-2004, 07:21 PM
NOt bad:wise:

good job:thumbsup:

swarding
07-15-2004, 07:54 PM
I must agree with everyone's comments thus far on the cobwebs. I'm truly amazed by the whole piece, but the cobwebs add some amazing depth and are just so well done. Any chance we could get some tips on how to?

Again, excellent work

KaDDD
07-15-2004, 08:11 PM
wow,very strange & impresive,original . .. yes,it's a good job !

CarlCampbell
07-15-2004, 08:32 PM
It was time someone showed some decent surreal CG art around here! Excellent work on modelling and textures and entire composition! Also love your other image, "Imagine".

lesterc
07-15-2004, 08:35 PM
very wierd but cool :rolleyes:

Rivendale
07-15-2004, 09:06 PM
Thanks a bunch!
Link to highres:
http://hem.bredband.net/millman/connectionshighres.jpg

CML

in your sofa
07-15-2004, 09:12 PM
man...that looks soooo tryppy while listening to Radiohead

just purely amazing work man...truley amazing

Rivendale
07-15-2004, 09:15 PM
swarding- about the webs...as you can see from the wireframe on page 2 it is geometry that is modelled around the pieces. I took a render from the front and used it as backround to lay out the topology. I was thinking of using cloth also but I would have had to tweak it so much anyway. It is mapped cylindrically from top to bottom and uses pretty much the same texture for diffuse, bump and specular. The texture is just a mishmash of lines at different strength to add some depth, with holes here and there to break it up.

cheers
CML

victoroc
07-15-2004, 09:26 PM
Beautiful work Rivendale - you've just replaced your own "Imagination" ring as my new desktop :)

rmsmedia
07-15-2004, 10:56 PM
You're work is always inspiring...I love this one

Dreamy Kid
07-15-2004, 11:00 PM
hi rivendale! awesome work...anyway can i know the story behind the concept ^__^;; or you actually just put some random objects there. thanks

Rivendale
07-16-2004, 12:18 AM
Thanks

Dreamy kid- You are free to read in whatever you like into the image. It could be some kind of bloodcirculating system... Basically you can wander around this ring in your mind. Some connections are obvious like the blood going around, others like the bridge you will have to wander in your thoughts. I did not want this to be totally logical, I think it defies logic and because of that people get puzzled and will have to think for themselves. Maybe it reminds you of some childhood memory? Great, then that is the meaning for you, the way it affects you. So I leave it open for you to enjoy it in whatever way you like.

CML

Curi0us
07-16-2004, 02:33 AM
haha thats awsome!

Hot Souse
07-16-2004, 03:53 AM
Good work kinda twisted. Is that a white weasel head.

Tu_Vieja
07-16-2004, 06:21 AM
wow:eek: ,very strange & impresive and original

leoraphael3d
07-16-2004, 06:21 AM
Fantastic work man.

Cheers
Raphael

lateonight
07-16-2004, 07:54 AM
Among the best pieces ever created!

Wonderfull!!

fxgogo
07-16-2004, 09:08 AM
Bloody brilliant. And this is what I like to see in CG, where we get away from literal or 'first thought' ideas, and start to be artists in concept as well as execution. Very well done.

Tu_Vieja
07-16-2004, 09:24 AM
hello,

the model is very original, very good and good work
:bowdown:

neilyb
07-16-2004, 09:46 AM
Very Biomechanical, I think the hair and cobwebs add a scary realism to this surreal piece!

Irratio
07-16-2004, 11:54 AM
I dont want to be otrusive. I thought, you as the artist could find it interesting what people
see in your work. I thought of something like a life circle in which the rot of the flesh produ-
ces and becomes the essential fuel for the living people who gain it through technique. The
living exploit theirselves. So, instead of 'ashes to ashes', this would be 'oil to oil'. Perhaps?
But then I don't know why there is a bulb and a bridge. ...

Rivendale
07-17-2004, 12:37 AM
Hey, thanks a lot for all the generous responses!

Irratio- Yeah I think I see what you mean and it's an interesting idea. Thanks for the feedback.
:thumbsup:
CML

mimawoai
07-18-2004, 03:20 PM
Fantastic work.

kaffo
07-21-2004, 11:44 PM
i love it! :applause:

neozenit
07-22-2004, 12:38 PM
great work...!!!:thumbsup:

laironaldoo
07-24-2004, 03:04 AM
great job !!

Alex McGilvray
07-24-2004, 07:21 AM
yeah that is awesome, loved the first one too

DKMNZ
07-26-2004, 05:40 AM
totally odd. Is it some kind of symbolic thing or are you just doing cool stuff? either way its great, because its new for 3D

did you learn a lot from merging between fury animal head to the grond textures? that looks pretty dang tricky.

rastapopoulos
07-26-2004, 11:21 AM
Woaw, very nice!
I really love your lighting and rendering.
Must have a lot of photoshop?

Dr.Biped
08-27-2004, 01:09 AM
i like your idea its very original. the whole self contained self sustaining circle of repetition comes across very nicely. there are some compositional suggestions i would like to make.
i don't know how i feel about the rope connecting the top to bottom it seems to cut the ferret and sustenance dropper off from the rest of the composition. maybe if it didn't encircle the ring at the end or just 86 the whole thing. also i don't know about the flat on ring i know how hard and time consuming things like this are to make but sacrificing some of your work for a better view can sometimes make or break a work.
the ring idea as i stated earlier is great. something you can do with rings to really make them interesting is off set a object from the center. here you have the light post tree branch almost right in the center of the ring though it might be a little low to compensate for the mushroom. try drawing a octagon from the center of the ring and place the light on each of the corners and see how you like each.
try multiple backgrounds for this piece the stars are nice but it makes the whole thing a contradiction of itself. when i see the stars i think its huge. when i see the mushrooms and spider webs i think its small plus it makes this whole thing seem far away from the viewer. you might want to try something a little closer to home. this might also accentuate a new angle.
well i hope this critt is helpful again this i wonderful idea and i will be looking for other ring work you do.

dave247
09-20-2004, 10:45 PM
*gasp!*HOW creative. Like a freaky dream. man.. I like it.

Neejoh
07-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Wow that looks awesome! Really cool!

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