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abohmed
07-08-2004, 04:19 PM
HI
i have puted this subject million time in many forums and no results
i have modeled a head in 3d max and finished it and using textporter i pulled the uv and now i have the uv my problem is painting the uv how i do this please help i have been stugling for 1 month in this problem

jeb
07-08-2004, 07:01 PM
hmm hope i got your question right..


ok here it goes.

open your UV image in Photoshop, set that layer to multiply(its better if you have a wire with black lines and white polys), create a new layer underneath
it an paint your heart out in that new layer.

the UV its the guide of where to paint, so i guess thats all.

then save your image and put it in the respective map

abohmed
07-08-2004, 07:19 PM
man i know that my problem is with the colors the skin colors and with creating the eyes and nose.....

jeb
07-09-2004, 05:04 AM
oh, then you should have asked that, ill recomend looking for Dr. Julian J´s face painting tutorial, its one of the best i have seen on painting photorealistic textures.I would love to give you the link but i dont remember where it is. do a search here in the forum and you will find it.

EricChadwick
07-09-2004, 03:46 PM
In my opinion, you need to learn how to paint... not a task with a quick solution. It helps to look at tutorials, but they only teach you what tools to use, not the way to actually paint well. A lot of practice is really the only way to get better.

Here's an eye-texture tutorial.
http://www.3dtotal.com/team/tutorials/antro_eye2/antro_eyetex_01.asp

For skin, here are some good color theory tutorials.
http://www.gfxartist.com/features/tutorials/14030
http://www.gfxartist.com/features/tutorials/14033

the_zed_axis
07-10-2004, 01:58 AM
dude if you post another dumb ass post with a title like that i swear i am going to punch my moniter lol
be more specific wih your post titles it helps people help you
and try using the search button more before posting
try www.3dtotal.com (http://www.3dtotal.com) they have a hugh number of max/maya and photoshop tutorials on uvmapping and texturing

hpslashluvr
07-10-2004, 06:32 AM
yea it sort of gets on my nerves too, but she is one of the text. mods...so i suppose she's here to help ;) and it does get her attention

make sure dude you got like photoshop or painter, etc. mspaint does not work well ;)

basically no one can do this for you, you have to learn it yourself

i am always frustrated in modeling (and recently texturing) especially when no one will answer my questions, but you know what? 95 percent of what i know now is trial and error

so just pick a nice color for your texture map, put the map into the material slot, then if it looks ugly, change it! that's basically how it goes...

julian j's tut on 3dtotal.com is the best one ever and it seems you probably don't know a lot of the concepts to begin with, so I would read leigh's tutorial on what the different things mean...i think she has a tutorial (lightwave, but it's all the same really) for texturing her orc or something

another thing you can do is take pictures with a digi camera and filter out the light (glares etc) then clone the skin tones or whatever on your model, and also the freckles or other skin things

you can't just use a color map either, you have to use the bump and the spec etc prolly

but seriously, at least post a picture of your model and textures so far...no one can help you without you helping yourself, it is very annoying for the professionals on this forum and even absolute noobs like me, there is nothing wrong with asking questions just make sure you have researched it thoroughly

abohmed
07-10-2004, 09:38 AM
http://www.maxforums.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=1002&stc=1
here is my model and my latest texture i did not paint this texture but i make it from a head profile so i am not so agreed cause i want to paint it my self in photoshop and sorry about the title and about julians tutorial i have read it and i didnt understand it its so difficult so i think my problem isnt solved yet

Peter Ryskin
07-10-2004, 10:31 AM
Hi Abohmed,

Any chance you could repack the image to .jpg & resize it to get it below 20k and post it as an attachment here ? For me, registering on an middle-eastern-language site, well it might as well be chinese (actually I do know people that speaks chinese, but thats besides the point).

Doing so would help with making it easier for the people that decide to help you out, to do so - much as it can be difficult reading/writing english, coming from another (and in this case, not latin based) language.

Regards,
P. C. Ryskin

hpslashluvr
07-10-2004, 03:18 PM
I have time to go thru step by step with you on the tutorial if you need it, well almost step by step for the first few things. You can AIM me at angelgoo17, or pm me, or we can do this over the thread. But you have to say EXACTLY what you are having problems with. Texturing can be pretty overwhelming, I know. So ask one question at a time. For instance, "how do I paint the bump map for the lips?" or whatever.

abohmed
07-10-2004, 06:48 PM
hello
if you going to help please give me your email please so i can add you on my email or add me abohmed@msn.com

lazzhar
07-10-2004, 09:21 PM
>>well it might as well be chinese (actually I do know people that speaks chinese, but thats besides the point).

LOL, it's not chinese trust me.

Man you are hearing what guys here(or gals) saying !! please post a picture where you're stuck and you'll get tons of helps.

PS: Isn't you abohmed you were talking to me pn msn?

hpslashluvr
07-10-2004, 11:28 PM
hpslashlover@yahoo.com

but you need to tell me what tutorial or what you need first

abohmed
07-11-2004, 08:42 AM
please i will talk to you on yahoo messanger
lazzhar yes its me the one that talked to you on msn and man why arnt you online no more or you blocked me ????
and man can we talk on messanger please
and my problem is painting the uv guys in photoshop

hpslashluvr
07-12-2004, 04:03 AM
i don't have msn messenger, so i guess we can do this over the thread

post your edited uv map and i will help you from there

also are you using a human model? are you going for realistic?

abohmed
07-12-2004, 09:49 AM
hi i am going for realistik and please i dont know here how i post images so if you dont have messanger we can talk at yahoo messanger cause here i dont know how i post images ok and yes i am using just head model so please i hope we can talk on messanger i added you

mmkelly011881
07-12-2004, 02:10 PM
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hpslashluvr
07-12-2004, 03:25 PM
as long as you have jpeg images it should be fine

when you post, under the posting area is a place called additional options, then click manage attachments, then click browse, then upload (choose your picture), then when it uploads, click close, and post your reply

it should show up as a thumbnail

sorry man i can't just sign up for msn messenger for you, no offense, all my friends that i talk to are on aim

if you still have trouble, i'll use my own uv maps to guide you and you can look at those

abohmed
07-12-2004, 03:44 PM
there is no brows button or manage attachment

abohmed
07-12-2004, 03:45 PM
there is no brows button or manage attachment
and please use your owne please and thanks for the help

hpslashluvr
07-12-2004, 03:48 PM
ohhhhh maybe cuz you aren't a "senior member" yet

hmm ok go to a website like 50megs.com and take 5 minutes out to sign up and upload your pics, then you can put a link here (just click properties on your 50megs or whatever website's images that you uploaded and copy the address and paste it here)

anyhow, if you are posting a new WIP thread ppl are not going to be too nice about you not posting images, so you'll have to do this anyhow

when you get up to like 25 or 50 posts, you will start seeing image attachments i believe...so just wait a bit ;)

i actually have a better idea, go to threedy.com (the ppl there are MUCH friendlier and responsive than here) and post in the appropriate forum (probably "help" not WIP), i believe they have attachments for every member? you can try it and see if it works

i think we'll be using the one by julian j on 3dtotal.com

abohmed
07-12-2004, 04:09 PM
look i send and email to hpslashlover@yahoo.com
and it has the uv picture please put it on the forum and lets work on it

abohmed
07-12-2004, 07:20 PM
please can you help me in my texturing problem i sended you the email so check it ok ?

hpslashluvr
07-12-2004, 07:23 PM
dude i've got a life too....i've been home lately so i've been posting a lot but you know, i don't live at my computer...

i'm gonna go out and maybe i will post later today, maybe i can't, so just be patient

abohmed
07-12-2004, 09:26 PM
sorry really i am i got too exited about that i am very sorry feel free to post whenever you want and i am really sorry cause you know when you have a problem you wanna solve fast and thats what happend to me i am sorry really

decembermoon
07-12-2004, 11:25 PM
hpslashluvr (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=53210) vbmenu_register("postmenu_1441262", true); , you are so kind if you are a girl i want to marry you , if you are a boy i wish that i could be a girl to marry you , anyway dosen't matter these days .
abohmed why don't you search the forum once again , you are asking so (( general )) question , so do a search again then ask on a specific thing , this is also applies to SSS and whatever question. anyway check this :
http://www.planetquake.com/polycount/cottages/qbranch/tutorials.shtml
i think they are the best just study....

hpslashluvr
07-12-2004, 11:29 PM
hpslashluvr (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=53210) vbmenu_register("postmenu_1441262", true); , you are so kind if you are a girl i want to marry you , if you are a boy i wish that i could be a girl to marry you , anyway dosen't matter these days .


lol i guess you settle for what you can get these days haha

well, abohmed, i got your email

don't worry i wasn't trying to be rude, it's ok if you're eager to learn this stuff, it's always a good sign

i got classes from 6-8PM central us time, so i'll prolly be back after then to help out

hpslashluvr
07-13-2004, 02:02 AM
ok first off, with your uv map, did you apply a checkered material to make sure there is no stretching (or as little as possible), if not there typically are some under the default material library in 3dsmax (i'm sure maya lightwave etc has them too), try to get one with numbers or something so that you can also see stretching within each checker

in julian's tutorial, he starts out with the bump map, i think you yourself probably want to start out with the color map

i'm not sure what you don't understand, b/c his tutorial is pretty thorough

do you not understand how to use photoshop? or what

also what prog are you using again? and is this for a girl head or guy head cuz the texturing would be different

ttyl once i find this out

abohmed
07-13-2004, 09:25 AM
hello
thanks for reponding guys and lamice i am a boy and i am not asking in genral ok i said i have the uv but i dont know how to paint it
and hpslashluvr i found julians tutorial hard really and i want to start with color map i dont know what to do in photoshop i want steps easy steps with pictures and i used 3d max for modeling my model and yes its a boys head

hpslashluvr
07-13-2004, 03:02 PM
i rather thought julian's tutorial was pretty self explanatory, it gives you the colors to type in and stuff, but that's your choice

ok, there is a very good color map tutorial here by cANt

color map tut (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56847)

we can do this one if you'd like

it isn't as step by step tho, but i can help you and try to post step by step stuff

i don't really have a guy head model right now but I'll try to make do (maybe if you could email me your 3dsmax model, i might be able to open it and do this along with you, if you'd like)

first what i want you to do is, find a picture on google image search or yahoo, etc of a boy/adult that you want your model to look like, ok? that way I can tailor this more towards what you'd like to see.

oh btw, can you send me a rendered image of your model also? (like just a regular render not a wire or uv map)

I am actually going to start a new thread so that other people can help me or participate, ok? I am actually not the one to ask about texturing things, although I am going to help you anyhow. It is here

http://cgtalk.com/showthread.php?p=1442921#post1442921

If you don't like the idea, then we can always ask a mod to delete it.

Oh, and you have checked for stretching like I asked, right? b/c this won't work otherwise...

leigh
07-13-2004, 09:52 PM
hello
i have the uv but i dont know how to paint it
and hpslashluvr i found julians tutorial hard really and i want to start with color map i dont know what to do in photoshop i want steps easy steps with picturesIf you're having problems following Julian's tutorial, then perhaps you shouldn't be trying to texture. I'm sincerely sorry if that sounds harsh, but Julian's tutorial is as explicitly instructive as any tutorial could possibly be. If after reading that, you still cannot create a skin texture, even a basic one, then perhaps your skills would be better developed in other areas.

Alternatively, you might want to consider taking traditional painting lessons. This can help you to understand how colour works and how to mix and use colours effectively. I would strongly recommend this.

Remember, technique is just one thing. The rest of it is up to an artists individual ability - some people have it, and some people just don't. There is only so much you can learn from a tutorial, and the rest is up to you. You have to make an effort if you want to succeed, and effort means lots of practise. Don't expect to get it right the first time either.

Painting skin? It's simple. Go to Photoshop, select some skin tones and start painting. You have your own skin, so that's a good reference. Look in a mirror - look at the colour variations in skin, and what different colours are there. Then just paint them. Why should this be so difficult? It's *not* difficult, all you have to do it sit down and do it. Practise, experiment, do it again and again until you have something you like.

There is no easy recipe for painting textures. Just as modeling takes a long time to get right, so does texturing.

Remember also that your lighting is extremely important for realism, sometimes even more so than good textures. I would recommend getting your lighting right before you even paint a single pixel. Set up a fleshy surface in Max by adjusting your lighting rig and setting up your basic skin shading to the most appropriate basic colour, reflection, translucent, etc values (no easy recipe for this either, I'm afraid - every situation is different). Once you have a plain shaded skin that looks realistic, then start painting textures.

the_zed_axis
07-20-2004, 11:11 PM
i think its a language problem that he fails to understand either that or he is just too lazy to help himself.a simple search leads to hundreds to tuts on skinning and most of them if not all point to photoshop all it takes from there is practice and practice and dude you just arent willing to sit down and have a go you would rather have someone hold your hand and show you the way lol not that we would not want to but only if we think you are sincerely making the effort -- which i fail to see
i mean you did not have the patience to even try to sign up for a free web hosting service so that hpslashluvr could help you if you cant manage to do that i think you are in the wrong field

you are being just too anxious like a litle kid
calm down and go buy a good photoshop book read leigh's posts on texturing remember the key word patience
you cant expect yourself to be painting skin textures in day lots of observations and lots of practice

BESTrin
07-21-2004, 05:50 AM
Theyre are tons of tuts on this out there but in simplist english i know the basics of it are

make skin color
paint backround that color.
look at skin tones
make difernet skin colors
paint with those colors
look at pictures of faces
observer how the colors work
use what you have learned about skin tone
read all the thousands of tuts that are out theyre
use google for reference pucs and for tuts
use clone stamp and patch and heal tools forblending in photomaterial
remove lighting info from all pictures
send hpslahluvr a nice postcard thanking here for her patience time and effort in trying to help you.
post more specific titles to threads
research before asking questions
read manuals
get leighs book and read all five great texture tuts
read julians great tut.
be patient.
read some ps tutes
dont take anything personaly
be gratefull for everyones patience and atempts to help

good luck. There are tons of resources. Posting here should be a last resort not first option. Good luck and have fun.

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