DREAMCAST wireframes

[Brent Turbo]

OT:

Shun Di is my hero. He fights AND gets drunk AT THE SAME TIME.

ON TOPIC:

Thanks for the heads up. Just because Dreamcast is getting old doesn't mean that there's nothing to be learned from it. Many of those games still hold up to this day, but it's funny seeing a fight game without shadows under the characters. How far we've come since 1999.

[the rookie]

I miss the comericial when the guys are security at a bar and carry out somebody, I can't remember who it was, for a dreamcast commercial, I guess the true advancement that Virtual Fighter had was VF3, textures and flowing clothing, hair etc. was a huge step up for 3d mods, cool

[Matt]

As interesting as this is, CGTalk isn't the best place to promote an emulator, since legal issues when even discussing emulators can pop up.

Be careful.

[Quandary One12]

matt you have to remember if you own the game then you are not breaking any law.

[the_podman]

I've been following the emulation scene since 1997 when MAME only supported about 100 roms and they still didn't even have a working NES emulater yet. Waaay before it became a "hot topic". It was BLEEM(the first PS one emulater) that really brought the first real legal issues with emulaters and forced emulation to go mainstream(Much like NAPSTER's controversy led to MP3s going mainstream).
Since then, emulaters have and never will be illegal. It's the distribution of software ISOs or ROMS that you do not own that is illegal. Since I'm using the VF3 disc which I own, I simply followed the instructions on getting from my DC to an actual playable image on my HD. Anyhoo, it's really just to look under the hood of some of my favorite DC games. It's cool to see how the pros modeled SHUN DI.

But I will heed your warning non the less. :wise:

podman

[Matt]

matt you have to remember if you own the game then you are not breaking any law.

Actually, you're wrong. If the emulator is not licensed by Sega, then it is against the law to run software meant for use on the Sega Dreamcast system on any other platform.

In other words, even if you're not talking about a copy of the game, and you're talking about really putting your DC GD into the CD-ROM of your computer, it is not being loaded with a Sega Dreamcast system, and therefor is a breach of the contract you agreed to by purchasing the game.

[the_podman]

I haven't found any written documentation to support your claim. If anything, I've found lots to support the legality of emulaters. The ones that I KNOW are illegal are emulators that use licensed code or software which Sony or Microsoft owns.(There was an emulator on the XBOX that had to be discontinued because of this). There are a dozen or so Dreamcast emulators in the works and none of the authors have been contacted by Sega.
Playing a DC game in something other than a Dreamcast doesn't seem to make much sense that it would be illegal. That would be like saying I can't trip out my car or I can't put an old PSone game in my CD player to listen to the soundtrack. You bought it, right? You could use it as a coaster if you wanted to.(A lot of crappy game purchases are serving that purpose now.lol)

What's also quite interesting is SEGA's view on emulation. They actually accept it and haven't sued any authors of emulators and in fact, bought a popular GENESIS emulater, KGEN from the authors for commercial use.
Here's the article:
http://www.emulationzone.org/ece494/paper.htm

Personally, I see nothing wrong with it. It's just another way to play an old favorite. I can think of lots of things that SHOULD be illegal, like rushing out unfinished games to meet deadlines. (Matrix..ugghh)


podman

[the_podman]

Here's are more indepth article
"Emulation - Right or Wrong?"

http://www.worldofspectrum.org/EmuFAQ2000/

This one's a really good read!