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RobertoOrtiz
06-28-2004, 01:29 PM
Today's topic:

"Fight Club (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0393039765/reviews/104-0593198-0306312#03930397657299)" by The Dead Kennys

Posted June 28: 8:00 US EST

Welcome to the cgtalk sketch group.

This is a special sketch session. As I mentioned last week I will be posting topics based on book titles this week. The rules are the same as the other sketch sessions. There is only one more rule:

*You may base the sketch on the book, or make up your own interpretation of the title.

For a description of the book, just click the title.


As always, we will try to post one of these topics once a day for your enjoyment.

These are the rules:


* Post only your FINAL piece on this thread, based on the topic on the thread.
* 640 x 480 or 480 x 640
* They can be done on any medium.
* If you wish, you can add a brief text description about your piece.
* Only original compositions. No "tributes" o plagiarizing.
* The topics will be posted every day between 10:00 - 12:00 am US EST.
* The artist also has to post total length of time it took (Thanks Clanger for the idea) and program used.
* Only final pieces can be posted on the thread. They must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.
* Any piece caught breaking the rules will be taken off the thread.
* The topics will be picked at random from the list on this thread
(The author will be given credit). So guys keep them coming.
*You can add multiple entries, but please dont post WIP (Unless you intend to update them). NEW RULE!
* Ill post ANOTHER thread to quantify and track WHO has participated the most on these threads.


Good luck

-Roberto
PS To submit your topic ideas and suggestions go to this thread:
>>Link<< (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145003&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)

RobertoOrtiz
06-28-2004, 01:33 PM
I am thinking of raising the image size from 640 x 480.
I would love to hear your ideas on the matter.
-R

PS And if this topical week concept works this week, I might expand it to other cathegories and post them now and then.
I was thinking of topic weeks like:
"Movie Titles", "TV Shows", "Video Games", "Classic Video Games" etc.

Ego
06-28-2004, 01:34 PM
I am thinking of raising the image size from 640 x 480.

I would love to hear your ideas on the matter.
-RYes please! pretty please. At least 800 pixels is not too bad.
Nice topic too. Gonna get cracking on it.

Garma
06-28-2004, 01:58 PM
hmmm, I'd not raise it.. 640 is fine with me. Keeps loading speed nice too.

About the topic: this is a cool coincidence! I watched the movie yesterday and loved it!

Bonzo
06-28-2004, 02:16 PM
600X800 seems like the next logical step.

was gone for the weekend, so i've got some catsup to do!

bonzo

Ilikesoup
06-28-2004, 02:46 PM
Thankyouthankyouthankyou for this topic. I've had a "Fight Club" cartoon in mind for about a month now, and now I can do it as homework. :applause:

As for picture size, doesn't affect me. I post my images on Photobucket.com and I think their max size is 4x6 inches (not even 480x640 pixels).

pasto
06-28-2004, 02:46 PM
I think a lot of work here deserves a 600/800 resolution.

pasto

InKraBid
06-28-2004, 02:53 PM
Nice theme.. Did this in mouse and PS 5 in 50 mins.

Digiegg
06-28-2004, 04:37 PM
I suck at sketching but I thought this was a good way to improve.
I instantly thought of this idea since I saw fight club and it was basically about 2 personalities =) Yea I suck but I try!!! ^^
35 min - pencil and photoshop for color.
http://www.digiegg.com/sketch/fightclubdigiegg.jpg

TeoM
06-28-2004, 04:56 PM
Corel Painter 8, a bit under two hours.

http://www.h3who.com/Stuff/FightClub.jpg

Loosely referenced from knowthemovie.com. (http://www.knowthemovie.com/fightclub/fc12.jpg)

Nice one Danisud!

pasto
06-28-2004, 05:12 PM
1 hour photoshop.
thanx for the last week votes fellows.

http://pasto.tv/fight.jpg

Sagii
06-28-2004, 05:15 PM
OHHHH COOL TOPIC... I HOPE I HAVE TIME TO MAKE IT COOL.... he he he I have a good idea... gonna get cracking.

drawMonger
06-28-2004, 05:43 PM
http://digitalcraft.com.au/misc/sg24-fightclub.gif

hmmm...should have used a reference for the muscles...oh well.

painter / photoshop / 2hrs

great work to the posts before this :thumbsup:

PowerChild
06-28-2004, 05:51 PM
This is a first post- I hope my image comes through properly.
http://www.skunkcabbageonline.com/images/pc_fightclub_04.jpg

Found an image of Mr. Brad online and did a quick sketch with m' trusty #2 Ticonderoga, scanned into PS 7, and made an attempt at some natural media (something I'm not well-versed in).

In between the interruptions of actually working, I'd say roughly 2 hrs.

Cheers.

PowerChild
06-28-2004, 05:52 PM
Good job on other's work, by the by.

t_media
06-28-2004, 05:57 PM
killer topic :thumbsup:

mine is real sloppy real fast, wanted to capture that old rockem sockem feeling, when that was as intense as fightclub.
20 min in painter

I can't wait to see everyones elses
http://www.getiw.com/tim/rockem.jpg

AnimZiggy
06-28-2004, 05:58 PM
well i agree that people deserve bigger resolutios but what about people like me that they are still on dial up?? or is it just me??

:sad:

Kalas84
06-28-2004, 06:43 PM
13min Photoshop 5 ...

http://w1.635.telia.com/~u63504566/DailySketch/Fightclub.jpg

AnimZiggy
06-28-2004, 07:50 PM
this is mine, reference google pic..i thought i d give it a go to colour after many years.. phtshp and wacom...after two hours i had to stop..
http://animziggy.com/images/wip/fight_club.jpg



pasto and teoM amazing work!

i would love some feedback. :bounce:

mpuoci
06-28-2004, 08:52 PM
Okay so I wanted to get a little better idea as to what "Fight Club" is about and this is what came up in goole. This could have been a better topic, LOL!!! Check it out it's pretty scary.

http://www.m-club-q.com/cat-fight/gallery/gallery.html

Scott Harris
06-28-2004, 08:59 PM
I don't know... i think 640 by 480 is about right... after all... they are sketches.

heck... they are already taking an average of 2 to 3 hours now the way it is...

Scott Harris
06-28-2004, 09:12 PM
PS 7 & wacom 10 mins

sorry for this pathetic piece of crap... i just felt like being stupid today.
http://www.meta-phor.com/images/06_28.jpg
after working the 9 to 5... Tuesdays fight club decided to maybe just have a juice box and a nap...

thebigxer
06-28-2004, 09:14 PM
^^^^^hahahaha thats hilarious. If only all battles could be solved this way.

D_Caldie
06-28-2004, 10:08 PM
no-where near the skill of most entrants here, but i was bored so decided to give this a go :)

http://www.apvx76.dsl.pipex.com/FightClub.jpg
roughtly 1 hour spent on this, my first attempt at a freehand picture in PS from scratch (used my wacom by the way)

thebigxer
06-28-2004, 10:31 PM
I like this topic. A lot of funny entries so far.

Heres my stab at it about 1 hour in photoshop, reference used for croud.
http://www.tbxr.com/crap/fightclub.jpg

iamintricate
06-28-2004, 10:54 PM
Great topic.

PS - 45min

http://www.r3studios.com//yawn/intricatesketch_27.jpg

neednoname
06-28-2004, 11:03 PM
really fun topic :)
alias sketchbook, wacom, 1 hour

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v250/didikillsomeone/drawings/fightclub_3e.jpg

great entries, as always :applause:

TeoM
06-28-2004, 11:12 PM
mpuoci: awesome. Couldn't let something tasteless of that caliber slip by without honouring it in some way, so, 50 minutes in corel painter later:

http://www.h3who.com/Stuff/LadiesPlease.JPG
Hoho!


Great stuff as always here. Scott Harris and iamintricate --> :D!

Dargon
06-28-2004, 11:48 PM
Thought I'd go for more of a what could be on the cover of a book like this....

Did a lot of rework, used it as a practice peice, so a little over 3 hours. :(

Photoshop over a quick pencil sketch, wacom

http://www.daveclement.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/FightClub.jpg

99X
06-29-2004, 12:03 AM
everyone is so talented... Heres mine:
http://www.maniacstudios.com/drawings/fightclub.jpg

Art2
06-29-2004, 12:07 AM
Bit of a struggle this one. Because I fiddled a bit with things, tried stuff,
redone things couple of times, tried another brush for a change etc...

3 hours (...) in Painter. Ah well, fun study.

This piece was more inspired by games like Tekken. It's sort of a Fight Club I guess. (You've got Hihatchi, Yoshimitsu, Paul etc. all friends :) )

TeoM that's hilarious!! Haha!



http://www.empa.tv/marlon/sketch08.jpg

bilbo3d
06-29-2004, 12:20 AM
pencil + photoshop, 1/2 hr.

http://www.treefortstudios.com/WIP/fight_club2.jpg

don't know why, but this was the first thing i thought of. i miss summer vacation... sigh...

pasto, that's pretty tight.

scott, aren't those (bound + gagged) museum employees?

/bill

squee
06-29-2004, 01:11 AM
im a huge fan of Chuck Palahniuk so this was a fun topic...
Flowers bloom and die
Wind brings butterflies or snow
A stone won't notice

http://matrix.senecac.on.ca/~jtvandyk/fightclub.jpg

ravioli_rancher
06-29-2004, 02:18 AM
Still meddling with custom brushes and layers. . .five hours (though it didn't feel like it) Photoshop.

http://home.earthlink.net/~snowpuppy/AnarchistTussle.jpg

I viciously kick my own ass in an abandoned boarding house for taking so long on these daily sketches. . . :banghead:

SteveV
06-29-2004, 02:20 AM
Nice work there Squee, what program did you use and how long did it take?

squee
06-29-2004, 02:27 AM
thanks, oh yeah my bad totally forgot... photoshop 6 and i think an hour 30 its really hard for me to keep track of time sorry.

PowerChild
06-29-2004, 02:47 AM
That is pretty sweet squee. I like the style.

Matt_Forcum
06-29-2004, 03:01 AM
Well I had fun with this one. Its a great book/movie to try and capture in one illustration, but I decided to give it a go from the perspective of a random fight club participant coming home to his mad as heck wife. Alot of people totally miss the whole point of the book/movie and I tried to stay true to the story.

2 hours, Photoshop with a mouse.

http://www.rocketseason.com/daily_sketch/fight_club.jpg

By the way, I have a cable modem and I still say that 640 X 480 is the way to go. If people would like to make larger images available, I think its ok to add a link to their website.

ShrayBun
06-29-2004, 03:17 AM
Ahhhhh, don't have time to finish, need to eat and sleep and make love to something thing else besides Photoshop. I take way too long to shade anything. Maybe I'll finish later?

"Victoria's Secret Semi-Annual Sale"

(It's like that, I swear)

Adobe Photoshop, 2 hrs.

http://cif.rochester.edu/%7Ekirby/catfight.jpg

clockwerkz
06-29-2004, 03:21 AM
Here's my version of fight club. I'm a big Rocky fan, so I immediately shot for a boxing ring looking image. This is about 20 min or so.. just wanted to try and capture movement. Still a little too stiff for me.

cW

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/49/49930/folders/152406/1118774boxers.jpg

4saken
06-29-2004, 03:22 AM
hey folks, this is mine:

3 1/2 hours photoshop with wacom and photoref from movie.
not very original like always but I really liked the mood of this shot.

http://www.cosmicarts.f2s.com/fightclub.jpg

Goro
06-29-2004, 03:31 AM
pasto! Nice one! Very dynamic I like it!

squee: nice colors!


http://www.area-56.de/pics/cgtalk/sketchgroup/the_duel.jpg

Goblin King
06-29-2004, 04:00 AM
2.5 hours, photoshop & wacom


http://home.ix.netcom.com/~goofboy/gladiators.jpg

Fight Club - 246 B.C.

*exhale*

The sweat pouring down from my brow is stinging my eyes, and blurring my vision. This leather tunic is almost overwhealmingly hot...

*the crowd roars in anticipating excitement*

despite the conditions, I'm mentally ready for this challenge...

The sandy arena reveals the sanguine end of combatants past.

Un-afraid of death, and accustomed to pain... the gladiator taunts his opponant to advance.

Deflections, parrys and dodges with a riposte here and there, the veterans of Roman contest are able to fend off each others attacks.

*belly grunt*

The breath is taken from my lungs... It burns like nothing I've felt before.

The handle of a broadsword protruedes from the gladiators stomach. Tear drops of blood trickle down the sides of the blade as he hunches over, aware of the waning seconds of his life. Stoic confidence appears in his squinting eyes at that moment, revealing him to be a man with no regrets.

*Gasp!*

You wipe the cold sweat beads from your forehead... blinking hard a few times and rubbing your stomach, you peel the covers off of your clammy body and make your way to the bathroom....

kay-sea
06-29-2004, 05:08 AM
wow!

Goro you are definetly my favourite sketch artist. Someday you need to do a tutorial or time lapse or something.

Ilikesoup
06-29-2004, 05:12 AM
"First rule of Fight Club. . ."

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v236/ilikesoup2/40ee762a.gif

"Well, officer. We had just begun to talk about the movie when all of a sudden. . ."

Can't tell if my pictures are improving or if I just keep drawing South Park characters in different situations. Still fun, though. Maybe I need a Wacom :rolleyes: . About 3 hours in Photoshop.

zzacmann
06-29-2004, 05:38 AM
45 minute sketch. 1.5 hours coloring.

http://zzacmann.250free.com/ZacFightClub.jpg

I liked how the whole fight club theme was very dirty and ugly, so thats why I left my sketch so rough. Thats a tooth flying through the air. I dont know how well that reads. Anyway, lots of good stuff today. I like that about half are inspired by the movie and the other half are just made up.

ravioli_rancher
06-29-2004, 06:01 AM
ilikesoup,

Though I've only taken part in six of these sketches, I think your works are among the best. . . it's a genuine style that's quiet, easy to read, and witty.

I know after looking at Goro's and Gobling King's sketches I feel like I might as well burn my computer, because there's no way in hell I'll ever be able to do that with photoshop (case in point, my sketch today took five hours--with a wacom and its certainly not anywhere near as competently rendered as Goro's, who probably whipped his together in about an hour).

It's easy to criticize a sketch when comparing it to Goro and Goblin King's efforts.

Today, I've decided it's best not to, and just do your own thing.

You mention Southpark -- a multimillion dollar business. Seems to me that such a style absolutely has merit.

Plus, you won't ever have to answer questions like what are your brush settings? or write tutorials on how to paint in photoshop :)

At least, that's how I deal with my own stylistic abnormalities. :hmm:

Hot Souse
06-29-2004, 06:02 AM
How do i attach my image to my post? I tried to particpate but i didn't know how to show my image

augustus
06-29-2004, 07:38 AM
A fight club? Hmm.

http://august.f2o.org/temp/fightclub.gif

Sorry I couldn't resist:D

5 mins with a ballpoint pen.

Downwrdspiral
06-29-2004, 07:53 AM
http://www.geocities.com/downwrdspiral/fightclub.txtNothing great, but its something. Once I get my wacom (no idea when that will be) hopefully these things will end up a bit better. Right now Im using a thumb scroll ball mouse. Created in PS. 50 min.

ellaesunaCebolla
06-29-2004, 08:16 AM
Yes please! pretty please. At least 800 pixels is not too bad.
Nice topic too. Gonna get cracking on it.


I think is a bad idea to enlarge the size of the sketch.
The page will colapse.
:thumbsup: http://www.cgtalk.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1415457#

augustus
06-29-2004, 09:54 AM
another sketch:

http://august.f2o.org/temp/fight.jpg

~15 mins with a ballpoint pen

Sir-Patroclo
06-29-2004, 10:51 AM
"I know all of this: the gun, the anarchy, the explosion is really about Marla Singer"

http://www.sirpatroclo.virtuabyte.cl/marla.jpg

2:00/PS/Wcm

Goro: Tried the technique, it went great the first half hour of painting, then started to lose control and fluidity... then an hour and a half of fighting against everything that went wrong (but hey, even the Mona Lisa is falling apart)... I'll keep trying. It's not that I don't want to use sketch lines anymore, just want to be free and able to choose between use them or not. Thanks a lot for the advice.

Cheers

Sir Patroclo

Sir-Patroclo
06-29-2004, 11:25 AM
Marla... the big tourist... her lie reflected mine

http://www.sirpatroclo.virtuabyte.cl/marla2.jpg

This one turned out kinda CeliaCallesque

kamsvag
06-29-2004, 12:36 PM
Not much to comment, just a quick sketch, my first in this forum.

http://home.tiscali.se/132438/temp/FC.jpg

DanubuKa
06-29-2004, 01:23 PM
I am going to do a photo manipulation for this one.15min photoshop/20min trying to find an appropriate image in Google.

I am being a bit political but I think some armed forces are a bit like Fight Club, Not having or respecting the rules in keeping with the civilised world.

Zzacman - yours is effectively graphic and disturbing, so yours is my favorite this topic.

http://digitalcraft.com.au/misc/mark/fightclub.jpg

Matt_Forcum
06-29-2004, 01:34 PM
I am being a bit political but I think some armed forces are a bit like Fight Club, Not having or respecting the rules in keeping with the civilised world.


Then perhaps you should have shown a terriorst instead? :)

Great work anyway.

DanubuKa
06-29-2004, 01:48 PM
Ephesus, I could have and it would have been just as true to the statement, although I dont think terrorists have the guts to fight just to blow up innocents.
however it is just symbolic of armies in general it could be russia, china. etc.
Though I guess I should have changed the uniform a bit more, it is just the United Nations being disrespected and the ignoring of world western opinion that first came to mind with this topic.

thanks for the comment and by the way I like your website, some awsome work.
:buttrock:

Matt_Forcum
06-29-2004, 02:41 PM
hehe. I don't wanna hijack the thread but You brought up the UN being disrespected.

You see, the US didn't disrespect the UN. The UN lost its respect 17 resolutions ago. And to be fair. It's not every country in the UN at fault. The vast majority were on the side of the US. If you remember, there were just a few countries with veto power that kept the UN from executing its responsibilities. (those countries shall remain un-named)

The problem really lies in the UN's lack of enforcement of its own laws and policies because of a "Live and let live" mindset. Well, I agree with that mindset, but a peacekeeping orginazation like the UN cannot stand by and allow one of their own partners to be forced to succome to the will of terrorists. You cannot keep peace if your refuse to stop violence. If the UN won't protect its own people, then the people must protect themselves.

OK! no more politics! back to the cool drawings!

Goro
06-29-2004, 02:45 PM
thnx for your nice words guys!

kay-sea: Ok I already posted those progress pieces in the cgtalk speedpaints
thread but I made a new tutorial. Hope you like it.

http://www.area-56.de/tutorials/hangar_86_tut.html (http://www.area-56.de/tutorials/hangar_86_tut.html)

ravioli_rancher: If you really want you can get anywhere. I'm still working
on my painting skills very hard. There are so many great artists out there
that sometimes I want to burn my computer. But it should be a motivation
to get better and better. I see people in this thread who are improving
really fast! So don't hesitate and post your sketches. It's the best way
to improve your skills.

hey sir patroclo!
That looks really nice. Love the perspective and the expression of her face.
You should work on the clothes a bit more next time. They look a bit flat.
I like the skintone of the second one better. Some highlights on the hair would be nice too. Yeah you should practice the no sktechline thing. It's good
to be flexible. And you earn a lot of new experience.
Another thing you could try is to block in the colors directly and build
a composition with only shilouettes as I did in my tutorial.
Remember to think about the lightsource and what kind of atmosphere you
want to create in your image while you are blocking in the colors.

cheers!
Goro

Linko
06-29-2004, 03:50 PM
Yoz!!!! Hope u guys enjoy it


http://www.lin-ko.com/Fight-Club.jpg

Ilikesoup
06-29-2004, 04:42 PM
Number one rule of Sketch Club: Do not compare yourself to Goro! (or anybody else for that matter).

ravioli_rancher -- I reeeeally appreciate your comments and a little lightbulb just went on above my head. The way I approach each sketch is the same each time, so the "style" will probably be pretty consistent each time. I generally start with a joke then try to bring it to life. Doing a few figure studies, mood pieces and generally less "polished" pieces might be a good change of pace, not to paint like somebody else, but to approach a sketch from a different perspective. I like the way that you switched from the very precise work on your "Live from News channel 4" pic to the rough expressive look you achieved in this one. Gruesome and hysterically funny at the same time. :thumbsup:

Apologies to Goro. The way we talk about his work I hope he doesn't feel singled out in a bad way for working hard and putting out some dynamite work. My sister is 6 years younger than me and I sometimes feel like I should apologize just for being older. I think it's very generous of you to share your creative process. BTW, teaching will probably help you in your own work as well -- it's like meditating on your process and will reinforce not only what you do but why you do it.

Lastly, congratulations to Garma. His "Fat Lady Sings" pic is featured on the front page and it's well deserved. :applause:

ravioli_rancher
06-29-2004, 05:44 PM
Goro,

Many thanks for the continued insights and motivation. For me, the most frustrating part is the amount of time I take, compared to the product delivered.
I labored for twenty minutes on the last sketch, simply trying to place a single swath of shadow. Eventually, of course, I gave up, left it alone, and moved on.

But, with incredicble artists such as yourself posting daily, it makes it much easier to start again on a new sketch, just to get that tiny bit closer to the shine and excitement you already bring to each of your images.



ilikesoup,

Thanks for the compliment. I've always felt kung-fu movies and 'sploding squishy heads provide instant laughter.

My typical style is very similiar to yours, and, as with SouthPark, seems extremely popular and marketable with Illustrators (judging from Illustration Annuals, and the cartoons and Nickelodian and The Cartoon Network). But, as with most others, after seeing something as exciting and impressive as Goro's sketches, I think it's only human nature to want more out of our own work.

Also, I suspect Goro is flattered and appreciative of so many people taking notice of his work. Nobody wants less. Everybody wants more. Hopefully, any added pressure bounces off, and his work will only become more enviable (if that's possible). :cool:

Back to the sketchingboard. Again.

Matt_Forcum
06-29-2004, 06:23 PM
How do i attach my image to my post? I tried to particpate but i didn't know how to show my image
do you have a website? if so you can link to it. but if you do not then you need to click the button in the additional options section called "manage attachments." I believe there is a file size limitation so you need to be aware of that. although they changed things around so it may be different now.

zzacmann
06-29-2004, 06:52 PM
Great work everybody. But we need a LOT more blood. Im keeping my fingers crossed for the Jurassic Park sketch.

Ephesus, I've figured out your secret. After seeing some of your responses here and remembering the one about my Wannabe sketch, I've uncovered your true identity. YOU ARE GEORGE W. BUSH! Admit it. Claiming your location was Illinois was a nice touch though. You almost threw me. Should we be playing a MIDI Hail to the Chief?

Matt_Forcum
06-29-2004, 07:16 PM
you got me. Very few people know that I, the president of the United States, spend all day on CGtalk looking at artwork. Thats why the country is falling apart and their is anarchy everywhere.

Art2
06-29-2004, 08:30 PM
Mr Bush, I have good news and bad news for you.

The good: Your son will become president of the USA.
The bad: He will eventually be eaten by pink-skinned aliens.

Just wanted to let you know...

Sagii
06-29-2004, 09:50 PM
Man work and my second summer class started this week, I am already super late and I didnt get the chance to work on it, much, but I had this idea brewing in my head all day, and since I am glad that no one else thought of it, I will post my very very very sketch sketch....

"FIGHT CLUB - 50 YEARS LATER"
(they are supposed to be old people).... If I ever have time today I will fix it, and finish it. Damn wait I have to do todays challenge first.. grrr. :argh:
http://pages.ivillage.com/cgsketch//fightclub.jpg

Ronski
06-29-2004, 11:20 PM
bit late, 15mins/Wacom/Painter, needs more blood :scream:

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/kieron/dsg/FightClub.jpg

Garma
07-02-2004, 10:57 AM
Ilikesoup: thanks man, I was kinda surprised, hehe :)

allright why not: 4 sketches in 24 hours. :bounce: I'm having fun

about 2.30 H | PS
http://oli.tudelft.nl/csr/huizen/hg/tdg/024_fightclub.jpghere

Cyanid
07-03-2004, 02:55 PM
Ilikesoup: thanks man, I was kinda surprised, hehe :)

allright why not: 4 sketches in 24 hours. :bounce: I'm having fun



oh man I wish I had your time...
you are developing skills very fast btw

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