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RobertoOrtiz
06-22-2004, 01:13 PM
Today's topic:

"White/Dark Knight" by Sciatica

Posted June 22: 10:22 US EST

Welcome to the cgtalk sketch group.

We will try to post one of these topics once a day for your enjoyment.

These are the rules:
* Post only your FINAL piece on this thread, based on the topic on the thread.
* 640 x 480 or 480 x 640
* They can be done on any medium.
* If you wish, you can add a brief text description about your piece.
* Only original compositions. No "tributes" o plagiarizing.
* The topics will be posted every day between 10:00 - 12:00 am US EST.
* The artist also has to post total length of time it took (Thanks Clanger for the idea) and program used.
* Only final pieces can be posted on the thread. They must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.
* Any piece caught breaking the rules will be taken off the thread.
* The topics will be picked at random from the list on this thread
(The author will be given credit). So guys keep them coming.
*You can add multiple entries, but please dont post WIP (Unless you intend to update them). NEW RULE!
* Ill post ANOTHER thread to quantify and track WHO has participated the most on these threads.


Good luck

-Roberto
PS To submit your topic ideas and suggestions go to this thread:
>>Link<< (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145003&perpage=15&pagenumber=1)

drawMonger
06-22-2004, 04:56 PM
great topic!

http://digitalcraft.com.au/misc/sg18-whitedarkknight.jpg
painter / photoshop / 3hr

grouse
06-22-2004, 05:10 PM
medium : paper and pencil, black pen, then Kurecolor pens
time : not too long, 20 minutes to come up with good thumbnail and thencopy it to a larger size, then another 20 minutes doing the inking.
comments : hope you like it, I think the the format of the composition is pretty good, but then that might just be me!! :shrug:

http://www.onder.studio.btinternet.co.uk/misc/dk.jpg


drawMonger : like the position and style of the characters. :thumbsup:

kflich
06-22-2004, 05:21 PM
pen sketch/painter/photoshop 1hr 15min total
didn't turn out quite right ... to dark i think
http://www.kflich.dyndns.org/temp/wdk.jpg

PaulZ
06-22-2004, 05:44 PM
Finally I had some time again today so I decided to join..

Here's my take on the subject, much more time coloring then actually sketching (Im thinking about doing another one later if I have time and energy)
anyway, painter 8, about 1 hr with some breaks for coffee and cigarettes.
http://www.3dtv.nl/pix_members/2knight.JPG

Btw, great sketch grouse, very nice pose and linework..

Ronski
06-22-2004, 06:49 PM
quick first effort, might try another later tonight. 20mins Wacom/Photoshop

http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/v220/kieronh/DSG/White-dark-knight.jpg

AnimZiggy
06-22-2004, 06:55 PM
this is mine for today..i wanted to concetrate on the armor i guess i failed... i m not really into armor stuff :sad: the pose of the knights is based on some refrences i got from google... phtsp and wacom an hour or so....
http://www.animziggy.com/images/wip/knights.jpg

white knight is either too cool or he's playing with his new vodafone live mobile phone :D

pasto
06-22-2004, 06:59 PM
2 hours this one, I struggled too much on the face.
Painter, photoshop.

http://pasto.tv/knight.jpg

Biped
06-22-2004, 07:32 PM
lots of great work !
Pasto : so nice... so nice

well heres mine for today.
PS & penpointer 1hr
http://www.3dproject.dk/cgtalk/WhiteDark Knight_1 hr.jpg

Garma
06-22-2004, 07:58 PM
pasto: the armor turned out nice!
kflich: cool concept, and no, I don't really think its too dark :)

here goes mine. Used some reference. Hope you like it :)

http://oli.tudelft.nl/csr/huizen/hg/tdg/018_whitedarkhorse.jpg

PS | 2H

daraand
06-22-2004, 08:04 PM
omg gamra you've improved so much O_O.. :D

Scott Harris
06-22-2004, 08:12 PM
Great topic.
here's mine: Photoshop, wacom screen
20 - 30 minuteshttp://www.meta-phor.com/images/stab.jpg

Matthew-S
06-22-2004, 08:33 PM
Knights is what I enjoy the most to paint. good work here guys.

btw check out my sketchbook if you want, I added a index to it today with a free version of web gallery maker:
http://www.lensflares.net

photoshop, 30 minutes
http://www.lensflares.net/sijun/sketchy140.jpg

Matthew

tuzz
06-22-2004, 09:51 PM
btw check out my sketchbook if you want, I added a index to it today with a free version of web gallery maker: http://www.lensflares.net

you should add that link to your signature, because it would be a shame, if anybody missed it. Its definitely worth a look, and a second and a third as well :thumbsup: :eek:

Now if you would just be so nice and give us a little hint about your custom brushes...they make every art you create even better, cause they add this certain last touch

in german it would be "i-puenktchen" ;)

bilbo3d
06-22-2004, 10:26 PM
pencil and photoshop, ~45 min. that perspective is hurtin', need practice!

http://www.treefortstudios.com/WIP/two_knights.jpg

Matthew, that's some good stuff. dig the sketchbook.

Pasto, i always enjoy your work. that's the same facial expression i have when brussels sprouts are on my plate.

Dargon
06-22-2004, 10:31 PM
Damn Pasto! That's Fine!

Well, here's my attempt:

http://www.daveclement.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/BlackWhite.jpg

Bout and hour, Photoshop 5.0, wacom.

Sagii
06-22-2004, 11:13 PM
Here is mine, I like this one....
1 hour drawing pencil paper Id like to work more on the armor but that all the time I have today... I tried to draw it in class without my teacher noticing what I was doing. Cause then they get real mad :twisted:
forgive the scan...
oH... Where we supposed to have a white and dark knight? well my knight is dark and his armor is white so there. it works...



http://pages.ivillage.com/cgsketch//knight.jpg


Drawmonger- I like the positions of the knights

Pasto- The face came out real cool

Biped - I love the action

Kflich- nice idea

Garma: AWESOME i love the horse

Mathew- as always great, samurai knight?

Dragon: that is beautiful so cool, the enviroment is great

Ronski
06-22-2004, 11:29 PM
http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/v220/kieronh/DSG/White-dark-knight2.jpg

Painter/Wacom about 70mins, had some ref but done from scratch. Just trying to capture some light.

drawMonger - nice painterly style
grouse - looks cool just enough tone to give it some shape
pasto - looks great, like the way you've got the halos on the armour, face is good
Biped - nice & dynamic pose
Garma - you're improving loads, interesting idea - perhaps the rider is a little small?
Matthew-S - nice light

Cheers,
Kieron

Matt_Forcum
06-22-2004, 11:50 PM
Great enteries on a really tough topic! Love yours Dargon
here is my quickie: 30 min. Illustrator and Photoshop

http://www.rocketseason.com/daily_sketch/black_and_white_knight_MF.jpg

stephan.s
06-22-2004, 11:54 PM
Dargon: Reaaaal nice!I really like it. But erm, did you use some kind of 3d render underneath? There are still aliased pixels showing through on the bottom right :D Still real good stuff. Great light and atmosphere. And I bet it looked better without all these filters...

pasto: real cool as well. I think the time on the face was worth it!


a real quick one. 40 minutes or so. But I really need some sleep tonight.

http://www.stephanart.com/71knight.jpg

Sagii
06-22-2004, 11:58 PM
a real quick one. 40 minutes or so. But I really need some sleep tonight.




40 minutes? no way... :cry:

stephan.s
06-23-2004, 12:05 AM
Well, it's mostly black. :B And if it wasn't that messy you could still see the drawing showing through.

Ephesus: At first I thought the image didn't load completely. The dark side is pretty weak in your world :D Maybe lighten up those lines?

daraand
06-23-2004, 12:20 AM
Was ina hurry to finish this one, hope you like :D Ill check back later, but from what ive seen so far this topic rocks ;)

http://utweb.ut.edu/Student/DavidA/2D/cts18-whitedarknight.JPG

Goro
06-23-2004, 12:40 AM
pasto: nice one!
Garma: you're improving very fast! congrats on that pic!!
Dargon: nice composition and colors
Stephan.S: what's going on with you!!! Thats really awsome!!!
and 40min!? ......you're sick!! :)


Here is mine.
Took a bit longer today. About 3hours Photoshop+wacom

http://www.area-56.de/pics/cgtalk/sketchgroup/dark_knight.jpg

Matt_Forcum
06-23-2004, 01:00 AM
Fixed it guys, sorry about that.

pasto
06-23-2004, 01:19 AM
Thanx a lot Dargon (really nice one great angle), Goro, Kieronh, Garma.
Stephan it is really nice for 40 minutes !
I love your style Matthew.

I did a second version : you will think that I never work !
http://pasto.tv/knight2.jpg

zzacmann
06-23-2004, 02:00 AM
Okay. I hope this reads right. I did Pasty White/Dark Knight. Because its Batman, and hes got a farmers tan and hes ...... and .... the tan is white and ..... because ...uhhhhhh ....



Oh forget it. 30 minute sketch. 1.5 hour sketch. I need a beer.
http://zzacmann.250free.com/ZacWhiteDarkKnight.jpg

SteveV
06-23-2004, 02:01 AM
That is stunning Pasto!

iamintricate
06-23-2004, 02:36 AM
really lovin' some of the submissions today!


20min - PS

http://www.r3studios.com//yawn/intricatesketch_22.jpg


In my family, my mother is the dark knight. :o

DanubuKa
06-23-2004, 03:00 AM
Hi all, love all the pics


here is mine about 20min in chalk/then 15 min photoshop
http://digitalcraft.com.au/misc/mark/whiteknight.jpg

SEL
06-23-2004, 03:29 AM
:) ,Hey all, im just finding out about the part of the forum! Great addition, keeps you drawing on down times. Anyhow, heres my post for the white knight, hes black as you can tell, so I thought it would be funny this being the white knight topic! Took me 2 1/2 hours to do, mainly cous after the first hour I couldnt stop, so I kept detailing the face! Ill finish and post final when done.

SEL

http://www.selart.com/art_dump/white_knight_sel.jpg

Bonzo
06-23-2004, 03:33 AM
hey guys
nice drawings today kids

i like how both the rider and mount are staring at me goro! awesome

nice perspective dargon, reminds me of jedi knight 2

well here's mine, hope you like it!!
I saw a pic like this and i tried to recreate the warmpth and feel of the photo. hand drawn

*edit* 45 mins in photoshop.. thanks for the comments!! */edit*



bonzo
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~dieckmep/knightchess.jpg

natorx
06-23-2004, 03:43 AM
I wanted to make it seem like he had a "dark" spirit/dragon inside him. Took about 49 minutes, used my wacom and a trial version of open canvas that apparently expired cause it wouldn't save, so I took a screenshot copied it over to photoshop. :shrug:

http://nathanjent.com/xanga/whitedarkknight.jpg

STLX
06-23-2004, 03:50 AM
I decided to start entering these - a sketch a day can really get me rolling. I dont have a wacom tablet or anything like that, because I really cant afford one - so this is my 15 minute mouse sketch of my take.

the only line: White Knight " Ummmmm ... halt?"

hehe, here it is.http://www.mroony.com/~greg/knightsketch.jpg

Ilikesoup
06-23-2004, 04:45 AM
I thought I had a unique idea, then I saw Bonzo's (very nicely done BTW):

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v236/ilikesoup2/ee5ca607.gif

Nobody's playing because they lost the other 30 pieces. :D
1.5 hours in photoshop

Ilikesoup
06-23-2004, 05:01 AM
Aaaaaaand this one's just plain silly:

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v236/ilikesoup2/250c6f24.gif

I call it "Knights in White Satin". Photoshop, about an hour.

Some beautiful work, gang.
Kieronh - I like how the knight's armor reflects the checkered pattern.
Sagi - Nice detail, and you didn't even get caught by your prof.
SEL - I've got to see this when it's finished. Very impressive so far.
zzacmann - Beer's on me. That's just too funny.
Goro - Very intimidating. He's the last person I want to see before bed.

squee
06-23-2004, 05:17 AM
heres mine 50 min/photoshop/wacom...found this to be a hard topic...


http://matrix.senecac.on.ca/~jtvandyk/black.jpg

Agent D
06-23-2004, 07:00 AM
Lots of great entries today, it's going to be hard to pick one to vote for.

About half an hour, Painter 8:
http://www.danielallen.us/Digital2D/62204bloodknightsmall.JPG

Art2
06-23-2004, 08:26 AM
This one is not really finished, maybe if I find some time today I'll finish it to my satisfaction. 45 min, Painter.

http://www.empa.tv/marlon/sketch05.jpg

neednoname
06-23-2004, 08:57 AM
not really finished, but already worked way to long on it.
photoshop, wacom

http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v250/didikillsomeone/drawings/knight_2small.jpg

bumskee
06-23-2004, 09:14 AM
45 mins PS...
http://members.optushome.com.au/bumskee/b_w.jpg

Kirt
06-23-2004, 09:15 AM
http://kirt.cgcommunity.com/images/ds18.jpg

Photoshop 3 hours

I spent way too much time on this, experimenting with things ... :banghead:

Sir-Patroclo
06-23-2004, 09:28 AM
-now that you and me are going to be crushed by this opressive redness that surounds us, I must tell you that... I AM YOUR FATHER!
- But... but... that can't be... because... because... I'M A ROBOT!
- Prove it
- Look, I have this really superb metashading device attached to my exoeskeleton/armor, that reflects light in funny ways that nature itself can't conceive! It works by redirecting light from it's source and making it spread throughout the space and then, .,.d.-.....

http://www.sirpatroclo.virtuabyte.cl/caballeros.jpg

1:30/PS/Wcm/Total lack of knowledge about lighting

This week is like everybody boosted up to super sayiajin level 2 or something, high quality stuff. Garma has improved a lot indeed, congratulations!

Cheers

Sir Patroclo

Garma
06-23-2004, 09:39 AM
thanks for the kind words guys, it boosts a man's spirit. I see a lot of awesome stuff, too much to mention them by name.

:thumbsup:

Thool
06-23-2004, 09:48 AM
A little rushed again but here it is.

http://thool.50megs.com/knights1.jpg

30mins for the pencil sketch and another 40minutes for the colours in painter - [ evil is winning ] :twisted:

JamesMK
06-23-2004, 09:56 AM
Well, I thought I would give this a shot too....

40 minutes with pen and paper.
5 minutes for minor clean-ups in PS.

http://w1.480.telia.com/~u48033445/wk_bk.jpg

woadiestyol
06-23-2004, 10:32 AM
I am fully aware of how bad this sucks. I hate my mouse, and I can't WAIT until my intuos gets here. Anyways, this was the whitest knight I could think of...



http://www.woadiestyol.com/elton.jpg

teg
06-23-2004, 10:33 AM
What about the 80's Knight Rider? wasn't he terribly dark? :eek:

http://tegatwork.free.fr/dessins/DSC18.jpg

1h45mn - Photoshop and wacom

Clanger
06-23-2004, 10:37 AM
Painter:
60mins:

http://www.rgore.plus.com/CGTalk/DailySketch/016Knights.jpg

RobertNitiredjo
06-23-2004, 11:22 AM
Hello,

Had to think of something else, after seeing previous entry's with chess knights. So I came up with this...

pencil on paper, 3 hrs.

http://members.lycos.nl/animaster/BlackKnight.jpg

No offence to MJ!

Rob.

Ra1Der
06-23-2004, 11:40 AM
White Knight, at the gates of hell, please note Hebrew emblems in the skull ;)
http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~andrew77/Photos/WhiteKnight.jpg

Âme noire
06-23-2004, 12:05 PM
My knight, hope I'm not to late :) Pencils 20 min

conundrum
06-23-2004, 01:02 PM
some great entries so far, i really like bumskees, it has great composition
photoshop and a wacom 1 hour

http://members.iinet.net.au/~kingram/images/knight-2.jpg

Goblin King
06-23-2004, 01:14 PM
1.5 hours, wacom & photoshop

http://home.ix.netcom.com/~goofboy/blackknight.jpg

Andyman
06-23-2004, 02:23 PM
A little late, but here's mine.

http://img57.photobucket.com/albums/v173/Andyman1655/whiteknight.jpg

About 1/2 - 1 hour pencil/paper. It didn't come out like I wanted it to, and it's a bit messy 'cuz I started to fall asleep last night drawing it; and, hah, it's not really even a knight... oh well =). Perhaps I'll re-do it later.

Grouse, biped, garma, Mattew-S, dargon, kieronh, stephen.s, goro, pasto, squee, Agent D, bumskee, kirt, sir patrocio, and everyone else.... these are really great.

Androgs
06-23-2004, 02:30 PM
about 1 hour in photoshop!!
http://img47.photobucket.com/albums/v143/Androgs/chess.jpg

elmasfeo
06-23-2004, 02:58 PM
hmm.. I'm not the only one that thought about a chess knight... anyway, here is mine: the little-white-knight with his big-white-sword VS giant-evil-black-chess-knight... hope you like it

http://gaitasfritas.250free.com/knightend.JPG

¿Strength VS Intelligence? ...mmm... maybe

About 1h, pencil on paper + mouse on photoshop

mahir
06-23-2004, 03:36 PM
Arrgh! Too bad i can't find the time to get anything decent done at all. Maybe i'll get the next one.

Lots of good entries this round.
Works i liked: pasto, Matthew-S, Dargon, stephan.s, Goro, SEL, bumskee, Kirt.

My fav would be Bonzo's. The chessboard looks like an edited picture/3d rendering. Even if it was, i still love the concept (so i should also mention Ilikesoup's too).

Onwards!

Telemaco
06-23-2004, 03:43 PM
Here's mine

PS & Wacom, about one hour

http://www.akenar.com/Sketches/Images/sk023.jpg

Telémaco

tuzz
06-23-2004, 03:53 PM
Telémaco, that gets better the longer i look at it! This lightning effect of the laser swords is just fantastic, especially the yellow light on the armor of the white knight, i love it.

it could have been even better if you focused a bit on the landscape, but what the hell ;)
i find it good anyway :thumbsup:

and how did you achieve this glowing effect? it almost seems liked rendered with a 3D program :argh: :cry:

RobertNitiredjo
06-23-2004, 04:52 PM
Sorry, thought I did something wrong...Delete this plz.

Rob:shrug:

Telemaco
06-23-2004, 04:53 PM
It has 2 layers, one brushed with the yellow and white, then cloned it and blured a lot. Then, in the first one I apply a glow layer effect -in photoshop-. I think the main problem is how do you paint the white over the yellow, with the brush at 10% op over and over again till its ok.


:)

(thx for the comments)

Telémaco

Obi-one
06-23-2004, 05:09 PM
I finally decide to join because i need to practise a lot more. I'll try to post as often as I'll be able.

here's my entry. PS about 1h30mn

http://ob1.one.free.fr/Fichiers/Images2D/Draw18.jpg


:)

Obi-one

Razorwolf
06-23-2004, 09:36 PM
45 mins PS...
Damn. You own.

tuzz
06-23-2004, 10:06 PM
It has 2 layers, one brushed with the yellow and white, then cloned it and blured a lot. Then, in the first one I apply a glow layer effect -in photoshop-. I think the main problem is how do you paint the white over the yellow, with the brush at 10% op over and over again till its ok.


:)

(thx for the comments)

Telémaco

THANK YOU for sharing something of your knowledge
:thumbsup:

will try to achieve something similiar...

Matthew-S
06-24-2004, 08:33 AM
tuzz, I am sorry I missed your post earlier and just saw it now, I hope this explanation will do and it is the same that I posted in that middle of nowhere thread earlier. Let me know if you want more explanation.

tuzz, "The texture and brushes is a tecnique that Craig Mullins have been experimenting with and a tecnique some guys in the speedy in Sijun started to fool around with aswell including me too.
First of all u are doing a speed sketch with the original brush which after u are adding an old painting above it to give texture, after that there is a lot of things that can be experimented with. The layers adjustment settings is one of them and with those settings u can change the whole of the picture.
Some guys are just using soft light in the layer but all of layers can be used if it is something special u are looking for in the picture.

This tecnique is also explained in wasssup's tutorial which I find to be a very good tutorial.

http://www.supalette.com/nuke/html/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=4

I guess at first this kind of tecnique can seem to be cheapish but it really helps with speeding things up and give it a more of a finished look. I hope my explanation helps here."

once again thanks for all the nice comments
Matthew

tuzz
06-24-2004, 09:16 AM
That is a wonderful tutorial.
Thank you for explaining your technique and please go on and provide such stunning art :)

richd
06-24-2004, 12:02 PM
quick 10-15 min sketch in ps

http://img58.photobucket.com/albums/v178/richrock/knight.jpg

lukx
06-24-2004, 12:17 PM
oki doki had some free time and here it is. 1h pen sketch and PS color.

http://lukx.hellnet.pl/CGTalk/Daily_Sketch/white_dark_knight.jpg

flyingP
06-24-2004, 07:13 PM
well better late in than never :D
I felt like having a bit of fun so here you go

all Painter 6, took about 45-50 min

http://www.bjread.joice.net/fposts/bwk.jpg

cheers

PowerChild
06-29-2004, 01:13 PM
I know I'm late on this one, but I started this last week and decided to finish it this morning.
http://www.skunkcabbageonline.com/images/pc_bw_knight.jpg

Pencil sketch with a PS7 tweaked background. Roughly 1 hr.
:drool:

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