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neonoodle
06-21-2004, 03:58 PM
Hi. I'm working on a vine jump animation excercise and would like some feedback. Thanks!

http://www.davidbokser.com/jump03.mov

-Dave

*updated below*

The-Observer
06-21-2004, 04:05 PM
hi, it looks very good, the only thing that I can think of to make it better, is to make him desperately swing around with hands and legs when he misses the second vine.:)

AWAKE
06-22-2004, 01:14 AM
Looking good right off the bat.

The beginning bounce is a little confusing. It looks like filler.


He seems to lose momentum and power on his jump when compared to the hop before the leap. Have him cover more distance before he gets to the vine. (bigger arc)


Those are the first two that jump out at me. There are other little things, but as this is first pass, Those are best left for later.


word.

HAYK´AP
06-22-2004, 02:41 AM
Good job neonoodle.

just a couple of things, the beginning bounce definetly needs more work, when he is bouncing his left ankle stays frozen, which looks kind of unatural.
and then when he does the first jump, the upper body should move in that direction first and not the hips, that way it looks like he is being pulled frome the hips.
I kind of have the impresion that once he is in the air, his movemet ends to abruptly, but cause the lack og a background is hard to notice this better...

I think you are doing a great job though... keep working on him.

Good luck.

linkmatrix
06-22-2004, 03:34 AM
hey neonoodle your anima looks really kool. What program are u using.

thephalinx
06-22-2004, 05:42 AM
Looks good in general, but the problem I have is with the first vine. The vine doesn't seem to react at all to his jumping onto it, or if it does, not enough.

Adding 150 pounds to a vine like that will cause stretching, change of speed and direction, and all that kinda stuff. The vine just keeps swinging like nothing happened.

neonoodle
06-25-2004, 11:25 PM
Thanks for the crits, everyone. Linkmatrix, I'm using Maya.

Anyway, I updated the animation, taking some advice from you people. The new one is here (http://www.davidbokser.com/jump10.mov)

thephalinx
06-26-2004, 12:05 AM
Looking much much better, good job.
The franticness when he is missing the second vine isn't quite convincing yet. The feet seem the most odd, not quite sure how to fix it. I would try and find some similar live action footage to compare to.
If you can't get the exact same scenario, perhaps look for footage of something like people swinging off ropes into a river or something. They might not be grasping for another rope, but at least they should be flailing a bit.

AWAKE
06-26-2004, 02:17 AM
ahh... Frame numbers help.


I like the arc of his jump now, you could push it further though. Have him reach for the vine. His right arm on frame 89 should be extended. at this point he's almost going to fly by the vine. continue that by making another arc with his left as it swings under tograb the vine. frame 93. This will help sell him actively swinging the vine.
once he grabs the vine and his weight is on it, keep his arms straight.


It may be tough to tell because there is no background, but it looks like he travels backwards after the flip. maybe its the camera.

The flailing is nice. Try adding some back and neck into it. It gets especially nice at the end.. from 133 on.. the poses really work.

lostpencil
06-26-2004, 06:35 PM
Hey Neonoodle,

That's pretty cool. There are some nice arcs and motion going on, but the thing that caught my eye is his body motion in the first 30 frames. He feels like a marionette... too floppy. I think your clip would have a lot more punch if he saw the rope, did a big anticipation move and then run and jump. Right now he seems like he has a serious nervous disorder. Anyway keep it up!

iuri
06-30-2004, 12:35 PM
Looking much much better, good job.
The franticness when he is missing the second vine isn't quite convincing yet. The feet seem the most odd, not quite sure how to fix it. I would try and find some similar live action footage to compare to.
If you can't get the exact same scenario, perhaps look for footage of something like people swinging off ropes into a river or something. They might not be grasping for another rope, but at least they should be flailing a bit. This Guy is right!:thumbsup:
If you see some motions on people falling of the swinging vine, the most of time they fell to their backs! like you almost catch the vine and lose then you´re head come back and you´re foots go more far and the gravity push you down. (sorry for my poor English)! :thumbsup:

iuri
07-01-2004, 05:15 PM
<img> try to find some sites about acrobatics there you see the result, and learn about some movements of human body, --> this help´s to stilize movement to cartoon caracters like your

Lil_Mick
07-01-2004, 10:25 PM
hey, it looks really good in my opinion. The only thing I would probabaly edit is when he does the flip have his head go back sooner. When doing a flip the first thing your going to look for is a landing (or in this case the next vine). The body follows where the head goes.

Maybe another thing I might do is when he misses the 2nd vine, really have him streatch for it. I know if I were about to fall some distance I would fight really hard to...well...not fall.

Otherwise it's looking good overall.

~J

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