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mv
06-07-2004, 10:38 PM
This session runs until monday 14 june. You have to model, in up to 4 hours, a character (or a just a part ), based on the fantasy imagery of the Dragon, of any culture : occidental, oriental, south american (quetzalcoatl),...

Post a wip image after 2 hours of work and final renders of different angles of the model + level 0 wires after up to 4 hours.

Please read the speed modeling forum rules (http://cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124788) before posting.

Have fun!

Telemaco
06-08-2004, 09:19 AM
Yupiiiiiiii

:bounce:



Telémaco

Telemaco
06-08-2004, 06:17 PM
58 minutes in zBrush & 3dsMax

:hmm:

http://www.akenar.com/SpeedSessions/Images/sp018.jpg

...and the wire

http://www.akenar.com/SpeedSessions/Images/sp019.jpg


Maybe I'll try another one.


Telémaco

vanderstrat
06-08-2004, 10:24 PM
2 hr. mark.

blender 2.33a & gimp 1.2.5

http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/wire1.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/wire2.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/wire3.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/wire4.jpg

b01c

xzevlin
06-09-2004, 09:35 PM
2 Hrs and plenty left to do. Just working out a way to connect the wings and head to the torso. Wings3D and rendered with Max/VRay

http://www.astoundingadventures.com/wip/coppermine/albums/userpics/wips/clockworkDragon01.jpg

Phrenzy84
06-09-2004, 11:15 PM
this will be really cool, i am in the process of finishin my dragon, i had started it about 2 months ago, so i dont think i will be allowed to post it here, but it would be cool to see what people come up with.

In a way you can use these sessions as reference.

anyways for those who want to see my dragon
here it is (http://sv3.3dbuzz.com/vbforum/showthread.php?s=&postid=618009#post618009)

]JP[
06-10-2004, 12:19 AM
Yeah! :applause:
This evening I modeled a Speedmodel, and i thougt there should be more things like "Speed Session" in Forums.
unfortunately, my model is not really looking like a dragon, because while i've modeled, i hadn't known about the session and its subject...

anyway... 2 hours:
http://www.roehrich31.de/Bilder/freak.jpg

Possibly i'll finish this one or i'll start a real dragon tomorrow... ;)

fsanimate
06-10-2004, 01:50 AM
2 hour mark. Nurbs model in Maya. Still stitching.

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5035/2hours.jpg

Brian

xzevlin
06-10-2004, 02:24 AM
Here's mine at the 4 hour mark, never got to the lower half. Looks kinda like a giant mechanical chicken instead of a dragon. Oh well.

http://www.astoundingadventures.com/wip/coppermine/albums/userpics/wips/clockworkDragon02.jpg

Robertt
06-10-2004, 02:26 AM
Here's a dragon:

http://www.artofinterpretation.com/images/cgtalkspeedsession-dragon-byrjt2004.jpg

Nice ones posted so far! Hope to see more :)

RobertT

pixelmonk
06-10-2004, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by Telemaco
58 minutes in zBrush & 3dsMax

:hmm:

http://www.akenar.com/SpeedSessions/Images/sp018.jpg

...and the wire

http://www.akenar.com/SpeedSessions/Images/sp019.jpg


Maybe I'll try another one.


Telémaco

Mesh is too dense considering the geometry. THat's the problem with newbies using ZBrush... execessive polys. You'll get it down.

fsanimate
06-10-2004, 03:52 AM
First speed model post. Dragon modeled in Maya using NURBS.


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/679/dragon4.jpg

Sorry, no legs.


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1867/dragon5.jpg


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4658/dragonwire.jpg

captain chapo
06-10-2004, 04:05 AM
http://www.thedonksquad.com/cgtalk/dragon.jpg

here's my dragon after 2 hours, so i just need to add ears and work with him and maybe i'll try a body....I'm big newbie to 3D and i'm realizing that my methods are very slow and i'm trying to figure out how to work with things...i started the head model as a sphere...but it seemed limiting and time consuming...could you share how you would have started a model like that? please crit and offer any advice! thanks.

AJE
06-10-2004, 05:06 AM
Did someone say dragons??
I'm in...

3.5 hours... LW7
http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/3.5hour_dragon_1.jpg
http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/3.5hour_dragon_2.jpg
http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/3.5hour_dragon_3.jpg
Wire 1 (http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/wire1.jpg) Wire 2 (http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/wire2.jpg)

I might try another one before this session closes... that was fun!
Cheers,
AJE

(PS Thanks to the organizers of these little sessions, it's great to have a challenge whenever we have any free time!)

maharadjah
06-10-2004, 09:51 AM
done this one for a similar speed modeling contest on frenchcinema4d board ..
( see the contest here ) (http://www.frenchcinema4d.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5954)

http://membres.lycos.fr/maharadjah1/rendudragon.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/maharadjah1/filairedragon.jpg

less than 3 hours ..

mojo77
06-10-2004, 12:52 PM
First post...

Hoping to progress with this one more

2:15 mins including lighting in Max

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL496/2290469/4488870/56273927.jpg

http://pic14.picturetrail.com/VOL496/2290469/4488870/56273922.jpg

cosmanja
06-10-2004, 01:09 PM
Hey guys. I'm just kind of starting modeling, i'm very impressed by everones work on these boards. There all pretty sweet. These dragons rock. I'm currently taking a computer programming Course. I'm curious is it alrite if i used XSI Softimage software for modeling. Does it matter what we use for the Speed modeling. Just curious want to see what people think and suck. I'm hopefully gonna try the next Speed Modeling Tutorial for sure.


Jason

kengi
06-10-2004, 01:30 PM
such modelling is so relaxing :)

http://kamrowski.pl/krzysiek/current/forums/smoczek.jpg

AJE
06-10-2004, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by cosmanja
Hey guys. I'm just kind of starting modeling, i'm very impressed by everones work on these boards. There all pretty sweet. These dragons rock. I'm currently taking a computer programming Course. I'm curious is it alrite if i used XSI Softimage software for modeling. Does it matter what we use for the Speed modeling. Just curious want to see what people think and suck. I'm hopefully gonna try the next Speed Modeling Tutorial for sure.


Jason

Hey, welcome...
All modeling software is fine, use what you have. The rules are posted off a link in the first post of this thread.

Have fun!
AJE

vanderstrat
06-10-2004, 05:35 PM
3 hrs. 10 min. work.

Blender 2.33a, Gimp 1.2.5

http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/b01cdragonwire01.jpg



Wire 2 (http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/b01cdragonwire02.jpg)



Wire 3 (http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/b01cdragonwire03.jpg)



http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/b01cdragon01.jpg



Image 2 (http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/b01cdragon02.jpg)



Image 3 (http://www3.telus.net/bpauw/img/b01cdragon03.jpg)



b01c

Klasz
06-10-2004, 06:29 PM
Hey Robertt, your dragon ROCKS...
I ALSO saw ur submission to the previous speed session galactic ships, wonderfull.
i'm a big fan of u only after two posts, especailly when i see that u are using blender


Bye :beer: :)

ILS
06-10-2004, 06:45 PM
here (http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/ils/mod_chal.htm) is mine so far.

redfuzz
06-10-2004, 06:47 PM
Well I have to start by saying that I did not model this for this speed session. But it is a dragon, and I did do it in under 4 hours, over more than one day. Mostly I felt like posting it because I see a few other Zbrush models and this was my first test with ZBrush.

http://www.thenerdery.ca/sketch/images/Dragon4.jpg

Some wires and other tests...
http://www.thenerdery.ca/sketch/images/

And a gratuitous plug for my site.

theNerdery.ca (http://www.thenerdery.ca)

Hope yous all don't mind be butting in with a model that wasn't done for this session.
Thanks
g

redfuzz
06-10-2004, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Robertt
Here's a dragon:

http://www.artofinterpretation.com/images/cgtalkspeedsession-dragon-byrjt2004.jpg

Nice ones posted so far! Hope to see more :)

RobertT

Really like the body proportions here, and the expressive brows, but the arms seem a little sausagey and the beak seems too flat and sharp. How can something be flat and sharp, maybe I'm crazy. Looks good, reminds me of what I imagined puff the magic dragon to look like when I was a kid.
g

redfuzz
06-10-2004, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by AJE
Did someone say dragons??
I'm in...

3.5 hours... LW7
http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/3.5hour_dragon_1.jpg

I might try another one before this session closes... that was fun!
Cheers,
AJE

(PS Thanks to the organizers of these little sessions, it's great to have a challenge whenever we have any free time!)

I love the posing! This looks great, and the wires are very simple. What would you think about attaching the base of the wings to the torso all the way to the hip or knee of the rear legs. Seems like the wings would waggle too much when flagging, attaching them to the body would give it greater lift, like a bat. Just an idea.

Yours also reminds me of a grifin.

g

AJE
06-10-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by redfuzz
I love the posing! This looks great, and the wires are very simple. What would you think about attaching the base of the wings to the torso all the way to the hip or knee of the rear legs. Seems like the wings would waggle too much when flagging, attaching them to the body would give it greater lift, like a bat. Just an idea.

Yours also reminds me of a grifin.

g

Thanks redfuzz...
You've got a solid design going on with yours... I'd like to see more... the whole thing

I've never tried Zbrush before, but the results are peaking my interest.

I agree with you on the wings running down the body... I didn't have enough time to do the wings properly... another hour or two would have been grand.
I didn't want to break the rules...

I might transfer this to the WIP section and continue on with it... but as of right now time IRL is becoming a bit of an issue.

Thanks again... and for the rest of you, crits are appreciated.

Cheers,
AJE

SpeccySteve
06-10-2004, 09:24 PM
About time I had a go at this speed modelling thing I reckon.

Wires after about 90mins- 2hours

SpeccySteve
06-10-2004, 09:26 PM
And a quicky render at about two hours, might go back in to add detail, dunno yet. All good practice either way I suppose.

z3phon
06-10-2004, 09:42 PM
heres my dragon
done in 3.5 hours 3dsmax
dident have time for the legs :P

http://img69.photobucket.com/albums/v209/z3phon/WiP/fs01.jpg
http://img69.photobucket.com/albums/v209/z3phon/WiP/side01.jpg

SpeccySteve
06-10-2004, 09:53 PM
That looks pretty cool, I really like RobertT's and AJE's as well.

This speed modelling lark is good fun and I hadn't realised how hard it was to work in such tight timescales, hopefully I'll be semi competent at it by the end of summer..

-Steve

TraceR
06-11-2004, 01:38 AM
Two blender users in the same contest, I'm luvin it! :buttrock:

Nice Dragons guys:thumbsup:

R_K
06-11-2004, 04:51 AM
had to join. dragons look awesome. love the posing AJE. great dragon!



heres the 2 hr.

r

:beer:

AJE
06-11-2004, 06:07 AM
Originally posted by R_K
had to join. dragons look awesome. love the posing AJE. great dragon!



heres the 2 hr.

r

:beer:

Thanks R_K... actually I'm seeing potential in all of these

It ain't over yet folks... come on, more dragons!!

R_K
06-11-2004, 06:09 AM
ok just got the website started so here is the finished version. about 3 hrs work. lost steam on the punk hair cut. been a long day. :thumbsup:


also, started the day with an earlier speed modeling session that friends suggested i post as well. so will be in a new post.

wires:



render:



r

R_K
06-11-2004, 06:12 AM
the first take on this session did earlier this afternoon.

first two hours:



four hours:
wires -


render -


r

TheIvIaxx
06-11-2004, 06:24 AM
not really what i wanted, but that 2 hour mark came up quick!

http://www.drunkirishmic.com/cgtalk/dragon01.jpg

http://www.drunkirishmic.com/cgtalk/dragon02.jpg

Waz
06-11-2004, 04:39 PM
XSI + Zbrush, 4 hours

Waz
06-11-2004, 04:39 PM
XSI + Zbrush

Opps, posted it twice because I didn't think the other one went throught because of a server time out message.

ILS
06-11-2004, 05:58 PM
this is my four hour mark.

not very finished.



for image click here (http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/ils/mod_chal.htm)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7084/4_fron2.jpg

Radiolarian
06-11-2004, 07:36 PM
Great models everyone.


I didn't have enough time to detail the whole body so I just did the head. Zbrush and Wings3D. 4 hours modeling.

http://img67.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Radiolarian/New-Dragon.jpg


http://img67.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Radiolarian/dragon-side.jpg


http://img67.photobucket.com/albums/v205/Radiolarian/dragon-top.jpg

TraceR
06-11-2004, 08:54 PM
Anyone seen Reign of fire? Got some kool dragons in it. :bounce:

pnoland
06-11-2004, 11:59 PM
Did this model for the Silo speed modeling session...but I was the only entry so i'll try here for some responses... :) Took just under 3 hours.

Blender Render:

http://www.emisis.net/images/dragon_ao.jpg

Silo grabs:

http://www.emisis.net/images/dragon4.jpg

Cinema 4d render:

http://www.emisis.net/images/dragon_final.jpg

SilentPhoenix
06-12-2004, 12:26 AM
Hello everyone! This is my first post ever to CGTalk *nervous*, so hopefully I will format this correctly. Here is my submission to the Dragon theme speed modeling session:


http://www.vr.clemson.edu/~rwthomp/courses/cpsc860/dragon/dragon_b_render_smooth.jpg

http://www.vr.clemson.edu/~rwthomp/courses/cpsc860/dragon/dragon_b_head_render_smooth.jpg

http://www.vr.clemson.edu/~rwthomp/courses/cpsc860/dragon/web_dragon_multi.jpg

And some wireframes:

http://www.vr.clemson.edu/~rwthomp/courses/cpsc860/dragon/web_dragon_b_wire_smooth.jpg
http://www.vr.clemson.edu/~rwthomp/courses/cpsc860/dragon/web_head_smooth.jpg


This was a cool new experience for me, and I look forward to continuing with this model as well as the next speed modeling session.

Best regards!

Ward Thompson

nochuss
06-12-2004, 12:29 AM
http://www.thenephilum.com/images/dragonweb2.jpg
http://www.thenephilum.com/images/dragon_1web.jpg
this is 2 hours in the zbrush demo
:hmm: a griffon is sorta a dragon right

vanderstrat
06-12-2004, 02:56 AM
a griffon is sorta a dragon right

Well, I guess they're both mythical creatures LOL.

b01c

TheIvIaxx
06-12-2004, 06:17 AM
is it me or do the zbrush guys seem to be incredibly awesome? i think zbrush is cheating! :p

looking great guys

pnoland
06-12-2004, 06:23 AM
Hey, I own Zbrush and I didn't "cheat"! ...yet. ;) Really it does take artistic skill to make awesome models with Zbrush. It's not like any yokle can just doole with it and be amazing. :) .....which is the reason I don't post much of -my- zbrush2 work. ;)

Just look at the zbrushcentral forum...there are tons of people posting models but only a select few will amaze you. No offense to the others, but it takes time and talent to get to the ranks of Pix or Southern! :)

AJE
06-12-2004, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by SilentPhoenix
Hello everyone! This is my first post ever to CGTalk *nervous*, so hopefully I will format this correctly. Here is my submission to the Dragon theme speed modeling session:

...

This was a cool new experience for me, and I look forward to continuing with this model as well as the next speed modeling session.

Best regards!

Ward Thompson

Ward, you've got a good eye. I'd like to see you continue this model in the WIP section. I think it's a strong beginning for what could be a pretty cool design.

Remember that the end of the 4 hours means you have to post it at 4 hours, and that's all the time you can put into it in this thread.
It's still your model to continue on with if you choose in a different thread.
(just be honest about the 4 hour limit, and make sure anything after 4 hours doesn't get posted in THIS thread, or the integrity of the speed sessions is lost)
I model dragons as a way to learn/test different modeling programs... they're organic, and can be complex, which makes them a challenge for the artist and sometimes the software.

Cheers,
AJE

TheIvIaxx
06-12-2004, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by pnoland
Hey, I own Zbrush and I didn't "cheat"! ...yet. ;) Really it does take artistic skill to make awesome models with Zbrush. It's not like any yokle can just doole with it and be amazing. :) .....which is the reason I don't post much of -my- zbrush2 work. ;)

Just look at the zbrushcentral forum...there are tons of people posting models but only a select few will amaze you. No offense to the others, but it takes time and talent to get to the ranks of Pix or Southern! :)

i meant it as a joke. i havent used it yet, but from what i have seen, it allows great details very quickly. disp maps?

brkn
06-12-2004, 11:38 AM
My first SMS entry - not a mythical dragon, but a komodo dragon (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=komodo+dragon)! I remember the first time I saw one of these at the zoo, it scared the crap out of me.

Modelled the base mesh in Bender in 1hr30m, then decided to take it into ZBrush for another 1h30m and back into Blender to render. Unfortunately I'm very much a ZBrush newbie, so it didn't turn out quite as well as it could have :)


Blender:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/mattebb/projects/komodo/dragon_bl.png

http://members.optusnet.com.au/mattebb/projects/komodo/dragon_wire.png

ZBrush:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/mattebb/projects/komodo/dragon_zb.png

pnoland
06-12-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by TheIvIaxx
i meant it as a joke. i havent used it yet, but from what i have seen, it allows great details very quickly. disp maps?

I know, I was being kind sarcastic...which doesn't really go over will in text form. :P Displacement map (disp map) without getting technical (because I don't know! :)) basically takes a high res model captures all of the detail into a picture format then your render engine applies that image to your low poly model kind of like bump mapping so the render time is shortened.

AJE
06-13-2004, 03:24 AM
Ok... had a chance to do another one... figured I'd do one with a brother welcoming the new addition to the family...
(just to clarify that the big one is NOT supposed to be the mother of that huge egg)

Crits welcome..
Cheers,
AJE

http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/4_hour_2shot.jpg
http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/4_hour_4shot.jpg
And for those who care...
Wire 1 (http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/4_hour_wire1.jpg)
Wire 2 (http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/4_hour_wire2.jpg)
Wire 3 (http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/4_hour_wire3.jpg)

Xtrude
06-13-2004, 08:19 AM
AJE, I really like that concept alot... :)

All in all some pretty cool dragons done up in this challenge :)

Here's one from me... I am ZB rookie, so don't bug me :D



http://www.members.shaw.ca/xtrude/dragonxtrudez.jpg

dex_rEvolution
06-13-2004, 04:13 PM
my first speed-modelling thingy. I know I suck but this will be good practice. I also dont know how to post pics so go easy on me. Oh yeah, this is at 1 hour and 15 minutes

dex_rEvolution
06-13-2004, 04:21 PM
the Wire

captain chapo
06-13-2004, 07:30 PM
okie I finished the dragon up...still really crude and weird looking. I couldn't figure out the stiching function in maya...how do i get holes in the NURBS body? i need to figure that out. I think i might try another. anyways this is after 4 hours, any crits VERY welcome, everyone's dragons are looking great! keep it up guys!
http://www.thedonksquad.com/cgtalk/dragonfinal.jpg

Drakeotic
06-14-2004, 04:19 AM
Here is my attempt at a dragon head. It looks more like a dinosaur, but im still learning. I feel that this is a real challenge, trying to create something difficult in 4 hours.

My Dragon is at 1 hour and 10 minutes. Its all the time i got to work on it. Time to head to bed and get up in 4 hours for work :surprised

Really enjoy looking at all the dragons. Keep up the good work everyone.

http://www.leeworlds.com/pic1.jpg
http://www.leeworlds.com/pic2.jpg
http://www.leeworlds.com/pic3.jpg
http://www.leeworlds.com/pic5.jpg

omega-0nd
06-14-2004, 06:08 AM
this my try, lw, 3.5 hr;

timelapse:

http://www.0nd.org/temp/pics/dragon_wires_140604.gif

render:

http://www.0nd.org/temp/pics/dragon_render_140604.jpg

Pixolator
06-14-2004, 07:49 AM
Excellent topic m@! Here is my small contribution to this fine thread...

http://209.132.69.82/uploaded_from_zbc/200406/user_image-1087156426opp.jpg

Posing tests with the above ZSphere...

http://209.132.69.82/uploaded_from_zbc/200406/user_image-1087196339xyy.jpg

This ZSphere is at a very early stage and is yet to be refined (The mesh is the unmodified preview skin of the ZSphere tool). The modeling has taken less than
an hour (not including posing and rendering time). Next stage will include a refinement of the base mesh and the addition of high-resolution details.

Cheers,
-Pixolator

Xtrude
06-14-2004, 11:46 AM
Whoa, now that's just cool that's what that is, I can hardly wait to see this in the next stage there Pixolator. Right on :thumbsup:

Telemaco
06-14-2004, 02:56 PM
Very good, Pixolator. It's very difficult to give natural poses to unnatural creatures, good use of the zSphere.


:surprised


Telmaco

pnoland
06-14-2004, 03:49 PM
Wow, awesome work as always Pix. Looks like I'm going to spend another day playing with Zbrush2. I always get inspired when you post. :)

pnoland

Daimyo
06-14-2004, 04:19 PM
Here is mine...
Nothing fancy, really. Just a somewhat "standard dragon".
I used the 4hour timeframe (this includes sketching), but it came out, that was enough time to make something, but it wasn't enough to put some real fingers and some detail. This is how my dragon ended up without good facial features and instead of fingers he got some sort of sausages. maybe the next one will be better.
Software? 3DS Max 6.

2 hours:
http://www.freewebs.com/leionaad/Pics/2H.jpg
At deadline:
http://www.freewebs.com/leionaad/Pics/4Hrenders.jpg
4 hours wires:
http://www.freewebs.com/leionaad/Pics/4Hwire.jpg

I don't know what is happening, i can't view my pictures in the preview. If you don't see the images, go to My place (http://www.freewebs.com/leionaad/index.htm)
This is the place where i put them for the moment.
Thanks for viewing.

Xtrude
06-18-2004, 05:40 AM
Time for a new topic? :D

Xtrude
06-18-2004, 05:41 AM
Damn, hit the button twice :D mybad

Mahlikus
06-18-2004, 06:00 AM
Pix...do I have to say it really, I mean come on..look @ that thing.
Okay okay, I'll say it...
Pix, love it. Awesome as always.
Every time I see your work, it just makes me fall in love with Z all over again.
Thank you.
I am off to contribute.

beanpro
07-01-2004, 04:09 PM
Sorry, my pics aren't available anymore.

AJE
07-01-2004, 08:13 PM
Hey, for those who want them, here are my 4 hour dragon models...
They are LW models, and morph targets were used for the poses.

This is the second one... I'll post the first one later (it's on a different comp)
http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/AJE_4hrDragon_2.lwo

Let me know if you use them (I wouldn't mind seeing what others come up with).

Cheers,
AJE

AJE
07-05-2004, 06:57 PM
...And here's the first one...
http://www.cgalliance.com/cgtalk/AJE_4hrDragon_2.lwo

Cheers,
AJE

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