Get Your Manga Printed from TOKYOPOP

[kid tripod]

Surely any "manga" done by a US resident is simply a comic . . .

[BNicolucci]

Well considering that manga done in Japan is "simply a comic" you're right. So what was your point again???? :rolleyes:

[kid tripod]

On the basis you have to be a US resident to enter, doesn't that mean anyone submitting original work isn't submitting manga?

Unless of course Tokyopop are misusing the term to try and make themselves sound better . . . :rolleyes:

[BNicolucci]

Originally posted by kid tripod
On the basis you have to be a US resident to enter, doesn't that mean anyone submitting original work isn't submitting manga?

Unless of course Tokyopop are misusing the term to try and make themselves sound better . . . :rolleyes:

Oh, no doubt they are taking advantage of the popularity of manga here in the states, but just because someone lives in the states doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to create "manga" or at least something similar in style to it. I think it all just gets to down to definitions, but I think letting non-pro's create work and get a foot in the industry is a good thing and I wish anyone submitting a lot of luck. :thumbsup:

[kraal]

i agree manga is a japanesse comic so if you are not japanesse or in japan then it isnt manga..... also i hate contest like this where they basically have an artist work and not pay them nearly enough compaired to industry standards and concider that a prize ..... if your work is good enough to print then tokyopop should pay you like they pay other pritable artist......

[igorstshirts]

Is a Japanese rapper not a hip-hop artist? Can a Czechoslovakian dude that moved to Denver not be able to pull off Manga style?:p

[CGmonkey]

Originally posted by kraal
i agree manga is a japanesse comic so if you are not japanesse or in japan then it isnt manga..... also i hate contest like this where they basically have an artist work and not pay them nearly enough compaired to industry standards and concider that a prize ..... if your work is good enough to print then tokyopop should pay you like they pay other pritable artist......

Come out of that tiny, little box you've been living in and be a bit more open minded. First of all, please, of course you can create manga even though you're not japanese O_o Manga is a style, and like any styles, you can adobt it. Secondly, if the artist would make printable art then they would get printed. I think that being printed in one of americas biggest manga magazines will pay off ALOT more than if you only recieved money and no glory.

Too bad it's for americans only :(

[kid tripod]

Manga is not a style. Anyone that actually knows anything about it knows it's phenomenally diverse. Going the full spectrum from real anally detailed realistic stuff to Love Hina.

Two points the whole misunderstanding annoy me:
1. People class "manga" as just being that one set look
2. People are ashamed of non-japanese comics, and would rather not be associated with them

I can empathise with point 2, because most western comics are indeed absolute tat, but then so is most manga.

People ought to try developing their own styles a bit more, instead of simply aping someone elses and misusing a label for it.

[eliseu gouveia]

Originally posted by kid tripod
2. People are ashamed of non-japanese comics, and would rather not be associated with them

I can empathise with point 2, because most western comics are indeed absolute tat, but then so is most manga.

You´d be astonished by the amount, variety and quantity of absolutelly amazing comics the western can come up with.

[tjnyc]

Originally posted by kid tripod
Manga is not a style. Anyone that actually knows anything about it knows it's phenomenally diverse. Going the full spectrum from real anally detailed realistic stuff to Love Hina.

Two points the whole misunderstanding annoy me:
1. People class "manga" as just being that one set look
2. People are ashamed of non-japanese comics, and would rather not be associated with them

I can empathise with point 2, because most western comics are indeed absolute tat, but then so is most manga.

People ought to try developing their own styles a bit more, instead of simply aping someone elses and misusing a label for it.

Funny? Manga not a Style? Considering many Mangakas do consider it a form of style, leaves me to question how you are more aware than the actually Japanese Manga Artists. Manga is not just the obvious visual style, but also in how the artist follows conventions of layout, sound effects, story dynamics and expression of emotions which hasn't changed much in Manga in the last 30 years. Subtles that western audience never realize.
So it is most certainly a form of style, but each Manga Artist brings their own personal interpretation of that style.

I agree that original style should be a goal for illustrative artists, but keep in mind the commercial goals that also goes with it and it is relatively difficult to come up with an original style that will catch with audiences and be commercially viable. Mike Mignola is one that comes to mind with a unique style, but even he admits that he is artistical inspired by such artists like Jack Kirby and it shows in his work.


Cheers,

[kid tripod]

Originally posted by eliseu gouveia
You´d be astonished by the amount, variety and quantity of absolutelly amazing comics the western can come up with.

It was a dig at people that didn't understand that. But you look at the western comics that sell (the superhero stuff, but ironically, they don't really sell that many these days) and they all look the same. The only exceptions being the Slave Labor and Top Shelf output, but that doesn't exactly shift many units.

Manga is not just the obvious visual style

But that's what Tokyopop are using it as. It's not a visual style in any sense. If you look at the work of Junko Mizuno (of whom I'm the worlds biggest fan), Masamune Shirow and whoever does Uzumaki you'd realise they have absolutely nothing in common except for the fact they are drawn stories composed of lines and filled areas, yet they are all manga, simply because they are comics by japanese people. Ms Mizuno has more in common with the French graffiti artist Ms Vans than anything else I've ever seen.

The whole thing is comparable to me referring to the dinner I'm going to cook myself as "cuisine" because if it implies I'm french then that would make the food better.

[igorstshirts]

It's a very Japanese style. Same with Anime. Some Anime is bad, 8fps, giant shimmering eyes, pointy noses and small mouths that move when the chin does not. Some is real good, full frame rate, 2 hour, like Akira and Venus wars.

The Japanese are also a more tech/mech savvy bunch and this shows in their Manga/Anime as well. :p

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