Beast of Burden - Character - Mandrake

[ZrO-1]

Hey mandrake, welcome to the challenge. Looking at that sketch it looks like you have a good sense of muscle structure and form. I'll be looking foreward to seeing some of your 3D work on this.

[Mandrake]

lets go..

[Mandrake]

update01

[Mandrake]

update02

[Mandrake]

smoothed..

[Mandrake]

update03

[Joril]

Looks like the translation from 2D to 3D is going pretty spotless. Keep it up, and I hope you show us a head soon :D

[Bakednotphried]

I think some actual feet and hands would look cool. Otherwise, i cant think of any crits.

[derwolpertinger]

perfect translation from dd to ddd. i just love the muscle definition!!:love:

[Mandrake]

Thanks guys. Muscle definition?? Hmm.. I haven't
even started to work on it. wait to see..;) ;)

[Mandrake]

update04..

[Facial Deluxe]

Hello Mandrake,
He's really coming nicely !

[Mandrake]

Thanks FD nice to see you here.

Update 05-

[Mandrake]

Update06..

[Mandrake]

more..

[Mandrake]

just a quick render..

[thjazi]

good beast, details are great :thumbsup:

[tubby]

what the..., god, fantastic modelling!, your proportions and pose are dead on, and nice detail in the muscles. really nice work:) :)

[ZrO-1]

Really really beutiful modeling Mandrake. The definition on the beast's structure is fantastic. I can't wait to see the contraption. It should be really amazing also.

[Mandrake]

Hello guys and thanks for comments. I refined the body. Still some way to go until I get what I want but this is for now

[Mandrake]

half the model from other angle..

[Mandrake]

quick no GI render..

[SEL]

amazing muscle detail, I love it! you hit it on the spot, just wished your beasts head stuck out a little more to have the thing feel bigger, :eek: keep the updates coming!!!

shaun

[phil]

man where can u get a hold of this steroids plugin? Is it like greeble?
:)

Looks awesome dude, i love it.

[the_real_cabal]

wow this looks like a crossing between a bodybuilder and a beast :D the muscle detail is breath taking :thumbsup:

[zeb]

YEsss...

That's great job...

but i suggest u to attenuate some muscles ... actually they are all tended, i think it could be more effective for credibility of this superb beast ;))

Keep it up (an it's just a suggestion nothnig more)

[Mandrake]

Thanks guys! I'll post new pic latter.. stay tuned.

TheSEL Thank you. Iwas trying pulling the head but
this way it looks stronger and more compact. I'll
put some thing around his neck though to make the
head more distinct.

phil - ha ha yes after this I could make some steroids.mll
or steroids.p for Lw guys

the_real_cabal - thank you man

zeb - I'm thinking to put him into some pose
when I finish modeling , also when pulling some
huge weight it shouldn't look wrong. will see
;) thanks for comment


see you later..
:beer:

[l_farley13_l]

Looking awesome there! I'd agree that some bone stretching the skin would be a good contratst with all the muscle, maybe some kind of forehead or somthing, to strethen the design of the head, the strong neck looks great though :)

So does he have massive calluses or feet ;)

Farley13

[OZ]

massive muscles!WHat a huge bob!:)

[Mandrake]

I'm almost done with the beast.. Update 07..

[road]

I am absolutely blown away by this....
Your muscle definition is incredible... great job!!
I really like this and can't wait to see it finished...

[Facial Deluxe]

Now, I want to see some wire !

[ZrO-1]

Holy crap!!!
If this challenge allows us to focus only on the beast modeling you've won for sure. That is absolutely incredable work! Fantastic :bowdown: :applause:

[Crash]

How did you manage to get such details? That's some pretty amazing work there. I hope you'll make it in time. I won't I know that, besides I'm making my beast for me not for the contest :p . Watching for more of your work. Plizz tell me whata you think of my character, I'm a newbie :) . And as for the beast, a beer for that man :beer: .

[Mandrake]

Thanks a lot guys! Here is a quick screencap of a subd
level 2 verts..

[Facial Deluxe]

Heavy guy! :thumbsup:

[levius]

WOW, so much details here. I think that this is the most muscular BOB ever :),

Great Work !!! I want to see more :bounce:

[Mandrake]

I'm blocking out some poses for the girl..

[Mandrake]

.. and I choose this one. Tell me what you think.

[road]

That's cool I like that pose...

[Daxx]

GREAT :buttrock: :airguitar BOB!!!

VERY HEAVY BOB!!!

[Rhid1en]

Personally I like the second one best. If you go with the last one that you've chosen, maybe you should make her arching her back more, like she's really struggling to harness this incredible beast that she's riding?!

[Mandrake]

Rhid1en yes the second one was my favourite but somehow
I got a feeling that she'll look like on a touristic sightseeing,
and it would not fit the heavy burden part of story. Thanks
for a comment!

[tubby]

wow. your amazing!!.i like the pose you decided on out of the others, maybe have the beasts head turned as if reacting to the harness. other than that just the missing feet that im sure your aware of. kick a$$ model and i cant wait to see it done!!

[Artifex]

That's what I call detail! Everything is in the right place, incredible muscles and love the veins.

[Lorenzo]

I like the veins detail.
I stay tuned :buttrock:

[Artifex]

Thanks for warning me about Hiko's Pise tower.

[Manicalavera15]

Mandrake !!!:D

I WANT PERSPECTIVE RENDER !!!


Great Work ! keep it up man ! :thumbsup:

[hiko_]

amazing details :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: !!

[SEL]

hey bud, incredible work, I cant believe you went to even more detail with the muscle work, exceptional! I hope you finish the piece cous its amazing thus far ! 5 stars from me, keep going, not much more time!

shaun

[Mandrake]

Thank you alll! TheSEL you're right, no more time, going
back to work...;) :)

[spec0r]

This is my first trip to this board, I've been here 5 mins and im in complete and utter awe. Im new to 3d, seeing this (and others) has inspired me to put the time and effort into getting anything remotely close to what u have achieved.

Great work! - keep it up.

-spec

[HapZungLam]

how long does it take you to finish this creature?

[Mandrake]

a stylish render.. still some way to go.. guys you're
great.. I'll answer latter dont have time right now..

[Dis]

omfg..

[meloncully]

ditto that dis.

[ghZaaaRK]

you win!!!
simply AWESOME!

wooOooOooOOw

[Julez4001]

super impressive

[neilyb]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Okay, I am dumbstruck....but where are the feet and hands....or the hooves and the claws or whatever this guy has.......whatever he has I ain't complainin' so long as he has some!

[Rhid1en]

Damn man, really incredible! Did you use displacement maps for the detail? The only thing I can think to critique for you right now is the woman. I really like the exagerated proportions and think they fit the fantasy art style well, however I feel her rib cage is a little to thick between her back and front of chest. Maybe if you just scale it in slightly it would unify her body proportions a little better? I'd also like to see some hair flowing out from under her helmet and blowing in the wind a little to just further excentuate the feeling of movement and power to the piece!
Also, even if his feet are sinking in the sand/mud/water, I'd kind of like to see them in a swamp with lilly pads, hehe... anyway, I think you should be able to see at least parts of some of the feet.
I really can't wait to see how the final image comes together!

[ZrO-1]

Hey mandrake, very nice workmanship on that woman. I do have a couple crits about her proportions though ;). It looks like her waist is much too thin. The rest of her body looks very muscular, but her waist is pencil-thin I think you need to bulk-up and widen (side-to-side) her waist to make it fit with the rest of her body. The other thing that looked off (though this could have just been the camera angle) is her lats (the muscles running down the sides of her rib-cage from the armpits to her waist) They seem overly large and thick in comparison to her upper arms and thighs. I would suggest making them a bit thinner (front-to-back) and not attached out on the arm so far.

Just my 2 cents, alot of that is entirely personal preference stuff, not really based wholely on human anatomy.

[Lyr]

This is simply the best use of Maya's subd's I have ever seen. Excellent work, the crafstmanship is just amazing. Do you have plans on animating the beast?

[Titan]

I quit......

I'll never top that...

super amazing work man, keep it up!

[Ed Lee]

Fantastic modeling work on the beast. You know your "muscles"...;).

Ed--

www.edleeart.com

[Artifex]

You got my vote!!!!!

[Cman]

Quite outstanding! :buttrock:

[Manicalavera15]

veryyy gooood !:scream:

but...can i crit? hum ohhh little lack of original, imagination?

i know pascal blanché's (GRENCH POWAAAAAAA) web site ...and there's some monster which looks like yours with woman on his back... any link with your Beast's idea?


of course..GREAT AWESOME and co details !!! (i love the woman warriorn wanna the same in my bed huhuhuh):applause:


yeah !:thumbsup:

[boomji]

hey dude,
u did frank proud mannn.
i wont comment on the chick since the beast is the main dude here(or so i think).
the arms seam to ram rod straight to me, almost as if he knows some one is looking ;).also a beast would primarily have most of his strenght in it's hind(power comes from the lower back muscles and legs) for pulling heavy loads(and spilling them when chicks sit on it/him...ahaahhahaha).
questions:
1)whats the poly count like(cage and final)
2)poly tools ??? default or mj
4)are you going to pump him him up further with displacements.
5)will you be doing a making of or something a little more elucidating(refrnces,inspirations,tips,tricks,pifalls etc...)

as far a this dude is concened...i wouldn't want be on his wrong side.
b

[ilasolomon]

where is my gun?! :mad:

[The Magic Pen]

DEAR JESUS!!!!:buttrock: :airguitar :bowdown:

[ambient-whisper]

just make sure you make a large render ok :) i want a wallpaper of that when your done :D

[swag]

hahaha, crasy crasy the best beast here i think verry nice will u build a skleton for it?

[Mandrake]

I really appreciate all of your comments. Thank you guys
so much!
HapZungLam - I started about 10 days ago. The problem
is, I have a full time job, so I could only work on this on the
weekends and some looong nights :)
neilyb - I'm working on this
Rhid1en - Thanks man. No disp maps everything is
modelled, you're probably right about the ribcage,
the hair wil come someday but for this challenge hair
plugins are not allowed and I'm not crazy about modeling
it by hand :)
ZrO-1 - man you're great, you should be mod here your
endurance is amazing ( and your beast is bigger even
than your thread , which is huuuge) You might be right
about the girl but this is fantasy world so I'm allowed to
be some more relaxing when it comes to "correct"
anatomy or similar.
Marc - thank you a milion!
Thanks boomji - I dont know the poly count in Maya since
it's subd mostly but I couldnt even think to render it in
Maya with 512 mb ram, so I tesselated everything and
put two million polys in cinema4d for rendering. Im using
mj a lot in early stage for edge splliting. I was thinking
about using additional disp maps will see for that and
for tuts..

[Gollum]

Oh my god! The amount of detail is almost depressing! I don't even dare to think of modeling these veins or mega-pumped muscles, its insane... :eek:

Really incredible work! The concept might not be the most original in this challenge, but the modeling has to be pretty much the most impressive I've seen here yet, and that's saying a lot looking at the number of great entries around!

Mind posting a tutorial or at least throw together a few tips on how you do those extremely detailed muscles? :D

You rock m8! :airguitar

[tubby]

oh my god, you just spanked everyone else out of the water. this is frickin gorgeous! i am both depressed at how far superior in talent you are and also excited to see what can be done if you reach the level of talent. you rock, i drool.

[rickycox]

wow this bob isn't "pulling" anything :-) great work.

[Parasite7]

did u paint the veins or did u model them using cps? looks incredible. good job

[Fred Heys]

The Detail is superb and I love the contrast between that huge beast and the woman sitting on its back..awsome work
:thumbsup:

[Mandrake]

Manicalavera15 I just saw your post. I've been on Pascal's site
few days ago but honostly i didnt saw that. I'm checking it right
now. I would NEVER EVER copied anybodys work.
O Yeah Thanks for comment :) :)

Parasite7 - it' modelled

I'm adding more things. more " I wanna see details" render
low quality, low res, no AA :

[Mandrake]

I forgot a pic:)

[Maxko]

Oh my GOD.

[Artifex]

Again, verry nice modeling, are you gonna give hime some paws and claws?

[CobraX]

AWESOME.... :scream: :thumbsup: :bounce: :buttrock:

[vizion]

superb skills..man that is just awesome!

[LucentDreams]

sorry that I didn't read through all the posts, just glanced over most, but didn't really notice a comment about the BoB's pose being unbalanced, I mean in reality,he is so heavy in the buuer torso, there is no way he wouldn't fall flat on his nose in that poisition, his arms shouldn't be going straight down but rather at an agle forward so as to support the massive weight on the front :)

Otherwisde amazing detail great job so far :)

[ojquammun]

Really impressive, congratulations, Mandrake. I wonder how you got to model those veins and details. Could you post a wireframe without the subdividing? Big size, pleeeease. I'm trying to learn.

Thanks!

[JJ3d]

WOW!
no words! great work :buttrock:

[Diffused]

Holy crap man.. thats some REALLY impressive work.

Where did you go for education? Where do you work?
(I'm a high school senior.. i need to know! :surprised )

[neilyb]

I agree with Kai, this guys is way too heavy at the front...the rider would tip the balance...maybe if he had a tail he could balance out...but certainly the rms a little more forward if possible....otherwise I love this.....yes..I'm drooling!:drool:

[PenGuin]

Your work is joust AMAZING :bounce:
And the muscle structure rulez :buttrock:
For me number one for that challenge.

[ZmoR]

SUPER!

[Chappo]

Oh My Frikkin' God !!!!!!!!

:buttrock: this is heavy sh*t :surprised

[ghZaaaRK]

:airguitar :airguitar :airguitar

you Roxx

d'you use SubD Simulation (CPS) or native SubD of Maya Unlimited?


bye

[Roy]

GoooD!
I can't breathe.

[neilyb]

Oh, one other thing that is bugging me. This beast is good...oh yes...the best most defined mesh imaginable.....but.....after many years myself going to the gym owned by a world top 10 body builder...I know that the only way to look like that is to drink nothing but celery juice for 4 weeks, whilst working out with weights which weigh less than feathers cos you haven't the strength to lift your finger.....the rest of the time pro bodybuilders look a little fat around the middle and there is a layer of fat covering the muscles...they are still defined but no so much as we would see at a competition......

So.....my only problem with this beast is its lack of any fat tissue.....my 3 cents....

Otherwsie a great job.....

[eric P]

holly shit,....what the....damn man,i'm blasted
stunnig-o-amazingification. :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

[Mandrake]

Kaiskai - The beast wil be pulling a... well .. something, I heaven't started yet to work on it and dont know if I had a time, thats why it is leaning foward, HellRender is right about that..
ghZaaaRK- Cps until I got the edges flow nicely, then turn to subdivision.
neilyb - Is's intentionaly. I know very well what you're talking
about, I've been into BB some time ago and when I started I
told my workmates that I want him to be defined as Rich Gaspari
at 1988 Mr Olimpia :D :D
Thank you all for your great comments:beer:

[Flypaper]

Here are my crits:

1. It looks too realistic.
2. You've followed the guidlines to a tee.
3. It makes me feel small as a modeller.
4. It seems inpenetrabley perfect.

[neilyb]

Well, that's fair enough...although I would have guessed at Dorian Yates (mainly cos it's BIG!).....and best of luck....not that you need it!
:applause: :bounce:

[Mandrake]

I finished the beast. I will add the burden part if I find a time..



http://members.lycos.co.uk/geminius/cinV.jpg

[Flypaper]

WTF?! That's Friggin Amazing. :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Foloking]

Amazing!! your work rox!
Serieux trop bien fait! :D :applause: :applause:

[CactusJack]

I think I've wet myself...:D

[shut]

geeeeeeez.....

i dissapeared for a while and havnt been able to work on my bob.

and i come back and see alot of really good models.

but after seeing yours i dont think i can finish mine:rolleyes:

you are a talented artist and you better have a job in the industry if your stuff looks like this.:cool:

if not ill hunt you down and beat you at once!' :annoyed:

[Virtuoso]

:eek: :love: ...........................One of the elite creations..............There are many here for this challenge, and this is one that is near the top if not there already. Just excellent.............How did I miss your thread???.............Well thank the God's above that I found it................Excellent job Mandrake.............Just pure clean perfect top notch modeling done with flare.............Great creations................:thumbsup: :beer: :)

[LucentDreams]

Fair enough reasoning on the arm, the other thing that bothers me about the arm is the lack of the elbow in there, I mena through the muscle you can see where th joint is, but no matter how muscular the arm is wour would see some solid and skin fold in the back area of the elbow as there is no muscle (or nerves for that matter other than in the epidermis on the bottom of the elbow, pinch it as hard a s you like it won't hurt :)

That last render is amazing though simply amazing I'm just being picky to make myself feel better ;)

[ambient-whisper]

if i may ask. ( not sure if it was asked already ) but what kind of machine do you have? videocard/cpu speed. and is maya still working nice and fast while you have all that data on ? because im looking into getting an upgrade, and i got a rough idea of what to get but arent too sure.

[Artifex]

Yeah Mandrake I love your work, like I said before the attention to detail is huge! Everything is in the right place. How much time is into this? (just out of curiosity) you most be working on this full time. Anyways, I know my vote is placed.

[pascal_blanche]

you have my vote mandrake ;) hey plz.. post some other views!

[pit]

WIZARDY! It´s the only possible explanation (-> would explain your name too!!)

[Mandrake]

shut - ha ha man your're funny dont worry I have some job thank you a lot!

Virtuoso - what to say on those compliments .. thank you man.

Kaiskai - I could do that with disp map latter thank you


ambient-whisper - It's athlon 1700 (1466Mhz) ElsaGeForce2,
512 ram and 80Gb Ide Raid + aditional 40 Gb Maxtor. Board is Asus a7v266e. It works OK and stable, faster than dual P3's at job. If you're working with Maya you better get some profi Gl card ( gl 8800 at least) or you're going to restart Maya occasionaly for getting the Gl back in some windows, its not good for Max either, ohh this should go to the hardware forum,
look I'll send you a PM ok?

Artifex - you're so suportive really, thank you a lot!

pascal blanché - thanks man I appriciate your support so much, I dont even know how I've finished this, working through the whole day on a work, animating then running at home to do a challenge work, it was funny and I enjoyed it, but now I'm a little tired .. I'll do some more renders.. thanks again ... think I'm going to sleep now ... maybe 72 hours..

..this is a final pic .. going to sleep ... tired .. sleep mandrake sleep...

..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz



http://www.mandrake3d.com/files/bobComp.jpg
http://members.lycos.co.uk/geminius/comp.jpg

[SEL]

Hey bud,

you ended this piece with flying colors! What a great job you did.:applause: Im glad I watched yours take shape from beginging to end.. Your work is very impressive. Been a pleasure.

shaun

[Virtuoso]

There are quite a few really top notch true professional pieces of art within this challenge. Really great talent around here. But this one and a few others even stand above those. Fantastic in all phases Mandrake, you should be very proud of yourself with these creations of your's. I am very impressed.:applause:

In all detsails and overall look it is excellent. That Beast is one bad arse tough muscled Biatch............I have lifted weights for many years, and can really say that the structure and muscles of your beast are second to none. Just 5 star work and I just wanted to say totally great art ( Given you have, as Yoda would say)....................

:thumbsup: :beer: :)

[levius]

Great work man :thumbsup: , now lets have some rest :beer:

[Lorenzo]

amazing details, an incredible final peace,
It's so professional, are you working in the game, or the cinema industry because this look like somebody know very well the formes.
Nothing more to say than
Fantastic:eek: :thumbsup:

[Drongo Stabbins]

What can I say that hasn't been said already!?
Perfect, Just absolutely perfect in every respect!
:thumbsup:

[swag]

my vote is yours:applause:

[Redf]

That is badazzzzz.What the hell are you on?To create something like that,it's toooo cool.Great work.:thumbsup: :beer:

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