olioli
12-27-2004, 10:45 PM
so, no ideas on whether or not there'll be a payment plan...
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omni
12-27-2004, 11:47 PM
I signed up long time ago on their mailing list but I have not got any information on enrollment. Does anybody know when one can enroll?
/Stefan
/Stefan
Phearielord
12-27-2004, 11:51 PM
we're all still waiting for the enrollment date :)
they just have to finalize a few things, before they let us all in :)
so hang tight :thumbsup:
they just have to finalize a few things, before they let us all in :)
so hang tight :thumbsup:
CyberSorcerer
12-28-2004, 06:34 AM
Ok sorry everyone for posting this on a subject that is liked by so many. But I started reading this thread today and got all the way up to page 50 with post starting WAY back in June. Are all the FAQ answered by now? = NO
Does anyone interested know how much it will cost so they can plan a budget before starting? = NO. This thread started out exciting but got pretty repetitive pretty quick.
I have been working with computers for over 20 years. I am self taught in everything I do with computers from programming and graphics to network security. I began in computers as a script kiddie, went onto hacking networks and now do computer security consulting. I love teaching computers to anyone that wants to learn.
So for everything above I hope you understand my point of view. I believe you "or who ever" started this thread prematurely was way to quick in getting everyone excited. Here it has been 6 months and not even the FAQ is finished yet. I think this company should have got everthing setup "including financing options" before releasing the word. I see you all are very young and no dought know how to animate, my only question is do you know how to run a company?
CyberSorcerer
Does anyone interested know how much it will cost so they can plan a budget before starting? = NO. This thread started out exciting but got pretty repetitive pretty quick.
I have been working with computers for over 20 years. I am self taught in everything I do with computers from programming and graphics to network security. I began in computers as a script kiddie, went onto hacking networks and now do computer security consulting. I love teaching computers to anyone that wants to learn.
So for everything above I hope you understand my point of view. I believe you "or who ever" started this thread prematurely was way to quick in getting everyone excited. Here it has been 6 months and not even the FAQ is finished yet. I think this company should have got everthing setup "including financing options" before releasing the word. I see you all are very young and no dought know how to animate, my only question is do you know how to run a company?
CyberSorcerer
RayenD
12-28-2004, 07:00 AM
CyberSorcerer - yes, this thread is very long. Some facts for you, just in case you are interested.
Check this site for sneak peek of the classes
http://www.animationmentor.com
Here is last newsletter - with prices and teachers http://www.animationmentor.com/newsletter/AMonlineNewsletter_3.html
Here are undocumented facts
- no one knows enrollment and registration date yet
- no one knows what school will be teaching in details, except what is outlined in newsletter above
- we don't know how many students will be accepted
- we don't know how it will work technically
Personally, I work as animator, so I learned to be extremely patient while being very excited :). So, if the school starts in January or February doesn't matter to me too much - what matters is high quality education I expect from AM. If they want more time to deliver it, I'll wait.
Check this site for sneak peek of the classes
http://www.animationmentor.com
Here is last newsletter - with prices and teachers http://www.animationmentor.com/newsletter/AMonlineNewsletter_3.html
Here are undocumented facts
- no one knows enrollment and registration date yet
- no one knows what school will be teaching in details, except what is outlined in newsletter above
- we don't know how many students will be accepted
- we don't know how it will work technically
Personally, I work as animator, so I learned to be extremely patient while being very excited :). So, if the school starts in January or February doesn't matter to me too much - what matters is high quality education I expect from AM. If they want more time to deliver it, I'll wait.
CyberSorcerer
12-28-2004, 07:18 AM
Thanks for the updated info RayenD
Sounds pretty good, good price for those that can afford it. I remember reading a few post from some people that love the this program but need the financing option to be able to do it. I read in the updated FAQ that it takes up to 2 years before the school qualifies to be able to offer that option.
I will have to follow this thead and see how things work out. I hope those that take the course keep us on the forum updated on what they think of the course, both while taking the course and after finishing. Maybe I will try and get an interview with one of the mentors for my internet radio show to talk about Animationmentor.com?
CyberSorcerer
Sounds pretty good, good price for those that can afford it. I remember reading a few post from some people that love the this program but need the financing option to be able to do it. I read in the updated FAQ that it takes up to 2 years before the school qualifies to be able to offer that option.
I will have to follow this thead and see how things work out. I hope those that take the course keep us on the forum updated on what they think of the course, both while taking the course and after finishing. Maybe I will try and get an interview with one of the mentors for my internet radio show to talk about Animationmentor.com?
CyberSorcerer
andy_maxman
12-28-2004, 12:36 PM
I see you all are very young and no dought know how to animate, my only question is do you know how to run a company?
CyberSorcerer
in what context would that mean?
CyberSorcerer
in what context would that mean?
philippeduvin
12-28-2004, 02:53 PM
CYbersorcerer...
at AM, They're just the best, the price is cheap and it's the only way for me and for a lot of people to get into animation school.. for me it's enough to apply. :)
at AM, They're just the best, the price is cheap and it's the only way for me and for a lot of people to get into animation school.. for me it's enough to apply. :)
CyberSorcerer
12-28-2004, 03:38 PM
Don't get me wrong I am all for AM and those that take the course.
in what context would that mean?
My context was in running and managing a company. There is no doubt that the mentors are qualified in teaching Animation. But are they the same people that are running the company "AnimationMentor.com?"
In another post one member from AM mentioned they will not be teaching modeling, texturing etc just Animation because the studios are not looking for a person that knows a little of everyting. Well the same goes for running a company. Just because you are the founders and are able to teach Animation doesn't mean you are as good at running a company. Your telling me they are going to do they daily jobs for Pixar, Sony and ILM then teach the students that they are committed to AND ALSO run and manage the company AM too? That is a huge work load.
What I am saying is at the end of the year it would interesting to hear from all the students, qradutes etc on what they think about the school and what they were taught. I understand the price is right and available to anyone that can pay the $2,000 per session without financing. Maybe they can get a loan on their own with a bank or something.
CyberSorcerer
in what context would that mean?
My context was in running and managing a company. There is no doubt that the mentors are qualified in teaching Animation. But are they the same people that are running the company "AnimationMentor.com?"
In another post one member from AM mentioned they will not be teaching modeling, texturing etc just Animation because the studios are not looking for a person that knows a little of everyting. Well the same goes for running a company. Just because you are the founders and are able to teach Animation doesn't mean you are as good at running a company. Your telling me they are going to do they daily jobs for Pixar, Sony and ILM then teach the students that they are committed to AND ALSO run and manage the company AM too? That is a huge work load.
What I am saying is at the end of the year it would interesting to hear from all the students, qradutes etc on what they think about the school and what they were taught. I understand the price is right and available to anyone that can pay the $2,000 per session without financing. Maybe they can get a loan on their own with a bank or something.
CyberSorcerer
mattmos
12-28-2004, 04:04 PM
In another post one member from AM mentioned they will not be teaching modeling, texturing etc just Animation because the studios are not looking for a person that knows a little of everyting. Well the same goes for running a company. Just because you are the founders and are able to teach Animation doesn't mean you are as good at running a company. Your telling me they are going to do they daily jobs for Pixar, Sony and ILM then teach the students that they are committed to AND ALSO run and manage the company AM too? That is a huge work load.
I see where you are coming from, the same concerns have been voiced elsewhere - just becuase someone is a kick-arse animator can they teach/run a education program? - but you aren't totally informed. Bobby Beck has quit Pixar in order to run AM full-time, the other animators will be taking on mentor duties on top of their normal workload. Obviously they are unproven at running a company and that can only be answered with time but it's a risk I'm certainly willing to take. :)
I see where you are coming from, the same concerns have been voiced elsewhere - just becuase someone is a kick-arse animator can they teach/run a education program? - but you aren't totally informed. Bobby Beck has quit Pixar in order to run AM full-time, the other animators will be taking on mentor duties on top of their normal workload. Obviously they are unproven at running a company and that can only be answered with time but it's a risk I'm certainly willing to take. :)
oshiroii
12-28-2004, 04:04 PM
It's quite different actually. Bobby Beck for example quite Pixar to work on AM fulltime. I've heard stories of Pixar people working 55 hours per week (or at least a lot) so it's not possible to have such a job beside running a school. I also believe AM's got a contract with all the teachers which says they must put a certain amount of time in the school. Basically they can't say:"sorry, can't look at your animation, need to work on Star Wars" becuase they have this contract. I'm also very sure that the founders are smart enough to know that they're not super humans who can do everything. They've probably hired trained and experienced people to help them with the complicated bisness running/administrative things. They've also been beta testing everything for over a year, so please don't see it as an amateur* kind of thing. I understand the sceptisism though, I'm pretty carefull too. I love the idea, but that doesn't mean I should loose my head and give them my signature. It's a thing that should be reasoned and seriously considered, like you would do with a "normal" school. I've also gotta see how things work out and get some feedback before signing up.
*(sorry,lack of better word)
*(sorry,lack of better word)
philippeduvin
12-28-2004, 04:05 PM
They're beta testing since 2 years...i'm still confident :-) It's easier running an online school than a real one:)
kobold7523
12-28-2004, 05:54 PM
I read thorugh all the pages down, wow, that's amazing!
My question is if I study AM can I latter on apply for internship visa, like studying in USA for collage or graduate school?
And how is the possiblilty to get hired to work in USA?
My question is if I study AM can I latter on apply for internship visa, like studying in USA for collage or graduate school?
And how is the possiblilty to get hired to work in USA?
maninflash
12-28-2004, 07:50 PM
I read thorugh all the pages down, wow, that's amazing!
My question is if I study AM can I latter on apply for internship visa, like studying in USA for collage or graduate school?
And how is the possiblilty to get hired to work in USA?
I think you mean Student Visa, yes, you can always apply for one as long as you have admission from a college or university in the US. You may be able to transfer some credits from AM, but I'm not sure if the degree offered at the completion of AM would be equal to Bachelor of Fine arts, you have to ask the guys.
As for geeting a job in the US, it all depends on how good an animator you are, sure if you can do Pixar quality animation, you'll have no trouble landing a job, studying at AM, you'll certainly have the right mentors, the rest is up to you. :)
My question is if I study AM can I latter on apply for internship visa, like studying in USA for collage or graduate school?
And how is the possiblilty to get hired to work in USA?
I think you mean Student Visa, yes, you can always apply for one as long as you have admission from a college or university in the US. You may be able to transfer some credits from AM, but I'm not sure if the degree offered at the completion of AM would be equal to Bachelor of Fine arts, you have to ask the guys.
As for geeting a job in the US, it all depends on how good an animator you are, sure if you can do Pixar quality animation, you'll have no trouble landing a job, studying at AM, you'll certainly have the right mentors, the rest is up to you. :)
Bentagon
12-28-2004, 09:14 PM
The beta-testing was beta-testing of the program, teaching and software, not for running a company. The money still has to flow in there. However, I believe they are not running a company as much as they are running a school. That's a huge difference in management and problems to conquer. I personally have full trust in Boom&co doing a good job on this field. I doubt they want to take the risk of it all failing, since they have worked so immensely hard to get to this point. Bobby quiting Pixar is a HUGE proof of confidence and dedication. They're really doing the best they can. And hearing they have hired a team to answer all of our questions once the catalogue is released, etc makes me truly believe they're on the road to success.
And people like me, who want to study character animation, are already taking a risk in choice of profession, since it's not the most casual and steady job out there, so why not take this risk, if it's cheaper then other options?
Having read practically everything there is to know up to this point about AM Online, I truly believe in Bobby, Carlos, Shawn and their whole "staff" (or should I say faculty?), not in the least due to their excitement and dedication.
- Benjamin
PS: About the internship visa: if you've got a degree (definitly a US degree such as the one they will be giving), and you're hired by a company that's big enough (Pixar, Dreamworks, Disney, ILM, etc.), I think the odds are high that you will be able to get a visa to work there for a couple of weeks/months. I think you should ask this to Carlos, since he has to deal with visa's himself.
And people like me, who want to study character animation, are already taking a risk in choice of profession, since it's not the most casual and steady job out there, so why not take this risk, if it's cheaper then other options?
Having read practically everything there is to know up to this point about AM Online, I truly believe in Bobby, Carlos, Shawn and their whole "staff" (or should I say faculty?), not in the least due to their excitement and dedication.
- Benjamin
PS: About the internship visa: if you've got a degree (definitly a US degree such as the one they will be giving), and you're hired by a company that's big enough (Pixar, Dreamworks, Disney, ILM, etc.), I think the odds are high that you will be able to get a visa to work there for a couple of weeks/months. I think you should ask this to Carlos, since he has to deal with visa's himself.
stewartjones
12-28-2004, 10:37 PM
definitly a US degree such as the one they will be givingSo, is AM giving us a US bachelor degree, or are we still speculating on this?!:shrug:
Thing is I am signed up to go to University in September (for the second time), and if it was a degree program I could just complete AM and get basically the same thing, apart from being taught a lot better!!!
Thing is I am signed up to go to University in September (for the second time), and if it was a degree program I could just complete AM and get basically the same thing, apart from being taught a lot better!!!
clockwerkz
12-28-2004, 11:08 PM
So for everything above I hope you understand my point of view. I believe you "or who ever" started this thread prematurely was way to quick in getting everyone excited. Here it has been 6 months and not even the FAQ is finished yet. I think this company should have got everthing setup "including financing options" before releasing the word. I see you all are very young and no dought know how to animate, my only question is do you know how to run a company?
CyberSorcerer I disagree. These guys are animators #1, and teachers #2. But it's a very close #2. See, most of the mentors already teach at schools. So teaching is not far fetched from them. The fact that they aren't business types is to be applauded. Let them spend the most minimal amount of time in setting up all the red tape. I'd rather they focus on teaching us animation.
The schools in my area are quite different. The instructors are #1 teachers, and #2 former students who maybe studied a fine art prior to getting a master's in animation, or maybe fumbled around some other degrees before finishing some formal animation course that would allow them to teach. What I'm getting at is that for me, the schools in my area do not offer hardcore/ninja animator instructors like AM.
Also, what school do you know of runs as smoothly and efficiently as a well oiled company, maybe perhaps as smooth as your own? That would be a school I would be very, VERY wary of. Companies are out to make money. Schools, traditionally, are not. Yes, that might be a naive point of view, I know. :)
cW
PS- vyntax:
AM will not be offering a Bachelor's degree. US Standards usually require anywhere from 120-150 credit hours in a variety of subject matter in order to be awarded one. Maybe in the future they'll offer a joint program with an established university? Who knows? But for now, I think they'll be offering some sort of certificate of completion, and are getting registered by the state of California as a teaching institution (this is the current delay).
CyberSorcerer I disagree. These guys are animators #1, and teachers #2. But it's a very close #2. See, most of the mentors already teach at schools. So teaching is not far fetched from them. The fact that they aren't business types is to be applauded. Let them spend the most minimal amount of time in setting up all the red tape. I'd rather they focus on teaching us animation.
The schools in my area are quite different. The instructors are #1 teachers, and #2 former students who maybe studied a fine art prior to getting a master's in animation, or maybe fumbled around some other degrees before finishing some formal animation course that would allow them to teach. What I'm getting at is that for me, the schools in my area do not offer hardcore/ninja animator instructors like AM.
Also, what school do you know of runs as smoothly and efficiently as a well oiled company, maybe perhaps as smooth as your own? That would be a school I would be very, VERY wary of. Companies are out to make money. Schools, traditionally, are not. Yes, that might be a naive point of view, I know. :)
cW
PS- vyntax:
AM will not be offering a Bachelor's degree. US Standards usually require anywhere from 120-150 credit hours in a variety of subject matter in order to be awarded one. Maybe in the future they'll offer a joint program with an established university? Who knows? But for now, I think they'll be offering some sort of certificate of completion, and are getting registered by the state of California as a teaching institution (this is the current delay).
stewartjones
12-28-2004, 11:27 PM
Thanks clockwerkz!
Man, I can't wait till AM gets the go-ahead! The suspense is killing me!!! :bounce:
Man, I can't wait till AM gets the go-ahead! The suspense is killing me!!! :bounce:
PixelTales
12-30-2004, 12:30 PM
Does anyone know what version of Maya they will be using? I know it doesn't matter if you have the latest version or not to be able to animate. But, it will matter what version their characters where created in if we want to try and open them. :D
Bentagon
12-30-2004, 12:46 PM
I think you can be sure you will be able to use them. Since they've already worked on this for a long time, I guess they might have used an older version for the models. But I'm guessing that once everything's up and running, some guys will be kind enough to create the same rigs etc for all programs from Max to Animation Master. Might be wrong, though, but who knows?
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
PixelTales
12-31-2004, 04:16 AM
Thanks for the tip :thumbsup: Boy I sure can't wait for the sign-up time to arrive. Hopefully the California Bureau wil put the paperwork thru before the first. I want to have a little time to get things straitened out before, classes start. That is of course assuming I am lucky enough to get a spot in the first round.
And in all my excitement I updated my signature with links to almost every source of info on AM that I know about. Anything I can do to help get the word out is well worth the effort. However I didn't have enough room to fit a link for this thread. Darn 150 character rule :shrug:
Oh well here's lookin forward to Jan 12th :buttrock: Good luck everyone!
And in all my excitement I updated my signature with links to almost every source of info on AM that I know about. Anything I can do to help get the word out is well worth the effort. However I didn't have enough room to fit a link for this thread. Darn 150 character rule :shrug:
Oh well here's lookin forward to Jan 12th :buttrock: Good luck everyone!
jtoon
12-31-2004, 08:49 AM
Hello to all! Here Julius from Spain!
This is my first post! I have many desire to register to AM! I can't wait! But...
the date of inscription was in December, wasn' t it?
Bobby, Carlos, Shawn.. what is happening??
I DON'T WANT TO BE OUT OF THIS!
Greetings to all and HAPPY and ANIMATED 2005!!
This is my first post! I have many desire to register to AM! I can't wait! But...
the date of inscription was in December, wasn' t it?
Bobby, Carlos, Shawn.. what is happening??
I DON'T WANT TO BE OUT OF THIS!
Greetings to all and HAPPY and ANIMATED 2005!!
Bentagon
12-31-2004, 11:51 AM
Hopefully the California Bureau wil put the paperwork thru before the first.Doesn't leave much time now, does it ;)
It'd be great, though... so cross your fingers everybody!
:bounce:
and before I forget: A Happy New Year to all of you fellow AM Online-lovers! :love:(and also a Happy New Year to the rest :D)
- Bentagon
It'd be great, though... so cross your fingers everybody!
:bounce:
and before I forget: A Happy New Year to all of you fellow AM Online-lovers! :love:(and also a Happy New Year to the rest :D)
- Bentagon
Nucleo
12-31-2004, 01:05 PM
Hello everyone.
Can we have a rough idea of how will this look is it going to be interactive like a course in a university or is it going to be like a video tutorial where we (the students) cannot ask questions during the lecture.
Sorry if this has already been answered.
Thanks
Can we have a rough idea of how will this look is it going to be interactive like a course in a university or is it going to be like a video tutorial where we (the students) cannot ask questions during the lecture.
Sorry if this has already been answered.
Thanks
omni
12-31-2004, 05:54 PM
Happy new year everyone!
Nucleo
12-31-2004, 07:21 PM
Hello everyone.
Happy new year. AM keep up the good work I am really excited!! Give us some more info plz.
Happy new year. AM keep up the good work I am really excited!! Give us some more info plz.
lhvio89
01-01-2005, 05:10 AM
I wanna wish everyone a very happy new year, and can't wait for AM to start :)
Logan H.
Logan H.
stewartjones
01-01-2005, 02:10 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! :thumbsup:
I had the worst night of my life! DJing at a local, and jesus, it's the hardest night's work I have ever done!
Anyways, it's all over now, and a new year is here! Here's to everyone on CG talk, and the peeps hoping to join AM!
Cheers! :beer:
I had the worst night of my life! DJing at a local, and jesus, it's the hardest night's work I have ever done!
Anyways, it's all over now, and a new year is here! Here's to everyone on CG talk, and the peeps hoping to join AM!
Cheers! :beer:
king21
01-01-2005, 05:39 PM
happy new year to all of you cgPople, btw i am getting nervous i want to know something please heeelppp.
No really let us start with this program allready.
see ya
No really let us start with this program allready.
see ya
Bentagon
01-01-2005, 05:42 PM
Hello everyone.
Can we have a rough idea of how will this look is it going to be interactive like a course in a university or is it going to be like a video tutorial where we (the students) cannot ask questions during the lecture.
Sorry if this has already been answered.
Thanks:eek: That's what it's all about! That's what makes it great! You get to talk with all these industry peeps that mentor you, while they crit just your work. Besides that they promise to have a great way of using forums etc so you can keep in touch with your fellow students and not-your-mentor-pro's. And on top of that, there will also be some kind of lectures where you get to ask questions to guest speakers: great animators that aren't mentors.
It's not 100% clear how everything's gonna work, but you can be sure it'll be interactive! It's the whole point of AM Online.
- Bentagon
Can we have a rough idea of how will this look is it going to be interactive like a course in a university or is it going to be like a video tutorial where we (the students) cannot ask questions during the lecture.
Sorry if this has already been answered.
Thanks:eek: That's what it's all about! That's what makes it great! You get to talk with all these industry peeps that mentor you, while they crit just your work. Besides that they promise to have a great way of using forums etc so you can keep in touch with your fellow students and not-your-mentor-pro's. And on top of that, there will also be some kind of lectures where you get to ask questions to guest speakers: great animators that aren't mentors.
It's not 100% clear how everything's gonna work, but you can be sure it'll be interactive! It's the whole point of AM Online.
- Bentagon
clockwerkz
01-01-2005, 11:34 PM
Hey Happy New Year all!
I have a strong feeling that tomorrow one way or another we'll be getting some sort of head's up. I was figuring that those government offices were closed for the majority of last week, so even if it did meet whatever approval they needed, it probably wasn't going to be known until they (the government employees) were back at work. So my assumption is that tomorrow they'll be back like most people, I hope!
The way I'm calculating, registration will have to occur at some point this week in order to make the starting class date of Jan 10.
cW
I have a strong feeling that tomorrow one way or another we'll be getting some sort of head's up. I was figuring that those government offices were closed for the majority of last week, so even if it did meet whatever approval they needed, it probably wasn't going to be known until they (the government employees) were back at work. So my assumption is that tomorrow they'll be back like most people, I hope!
The way I'm calculating, registration will have to occur at some point this week in order to make the starting class date of Jan 10.
cW
olioli
01-02-2005, 12:03 AM
I hope you're right :applause:
vizjac
01-02-2005, 12:18 AM
I hope you are right to, but talk about a push.
I hope everyone is having a good 2005.
I hope everyone is having a good 2005.
PixelTales
01-02-2005, 01:25 AM
Sounds like an excellent guess. I think we should go with it. Hopefully the California Bureau feels the same way :)
mmkelly011881
01-02-2005, 02:10 PM
it would definitely not be on a sunday fellas.... govt offices are closed on sundays... think monday if anything
vanlicht
01-02-2005, 02:36 PM
guess monday won't do either, since the whole stuff still undergoes the application, the actual opening date might hence postpond as well. Guess might have to wait a bit more days before more news is to be released. Well that's all my conservative presumption.
BTW I don't know if the AM Q&A on www.cgw.com answers "all" questions "per week" or those questions are to be filtered beforehand. I handed in a question but now it's already couple of weeks and there's not a sound echoing back??
BTW I don't know if the AM Q&A on www.cgw.com answers "all" questions "per week" or those questions are to be filtered beforehand. I handed in a question but now it's already couple of weeks and there's not a sound echoing back??
philippeduvin
01-02-2005, 03:54 PM
BTW I don't know if the AM Q&A on www.cgw.com (http://www.cgw.com/) answers "all" questions "per week" or those questions are to be filtered beforehand. I handed in a question but now it's already couple of weeks and there's not a sound echoing back??
same to me... 3 week after my "question to the mentors" and nothing yet...
Happy new year everybody and hope that we can get all together on AM may be this week...:)
same to me... 3 week after my "question to the mentors" and nothing yet...
Happy new year everybody and hope that we can get all together on AM may be this week...:)
Bentagon
01-02-2005, 09:21 PM
My second question was answered after 2 days, my first after 3 weeks (the last one added). I think they get the messages, but they pick the ones they like themselves. They can't answer every question... and I think they prefer animation specific questions for that list, since they will say everything that's needed to know in the catalogue and newsletters. That's also what it says on top of the page:
Is there something you’ve always wanted to know about animation, but were afraid to ask? If so, the Animation Mentors — three of the industry’s top animators — want to hear from you. Their new online school won’t open until January — but you can get answers to your questions right now, here on our Web site! Simply scroll to the bottom of the screen, enter your question, and check back for the answer. We'll post new questions and answers every week.
- Bentagon
Is there something you’ve always wanted to know about animation, but were afraid to ask? If so, the Animation Mentors — three of the industry’s top animators — want to hear from you. Their new online school won’t open until January — but you can get answers to your questions right now, here on our Web site! Simply scroll to the bottom of the screen, enter your question, and check back for the answer. We'll post new questions and answers every week.
- Bentagon
clockwerkz
01-02-2005, 09:25 PM
it would definitely not be on a sunday fellas.... govt offices are closed on sundays... think monday if anything
I stand corrected. I was off on my days.. I meant that we would be hearing probably from them on Monday, not Sunday. You are correct. Monday, I'm astill assuming, their offices will be back open and in full gear, like everyone else. Hopefully.
cW
I stand corrected. I was off on my days.. I meant that we would be hearing probably from them on Monday, not Sunday. You are correct. Monday, I'm astill assuming, their offices will be back open and in full gear, like everyone else. Hopefully.
cW
philippeduvin
01-02-2005, 09:26 PM
I think it's not just about that...the last question didnt change for 3 weeks :eek:
Bentagon
01-02-2005, 09:28 PM
the last question was added a couple of days ago. I know, because it was mine, and I was jumping of joy when I found out :D
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
philippeduvin
01-02-2005, 09:33 PM
Oh boy !!! You know what ? I was just checking for the last questions and answers at the bottom of the page :thumbsup: too bad !!! :) ok i'm goin' to sleep
lhvio89
01-03-2005, 05:48 PM
Well, I just got the new newsletter....and looks like I can't do AM :( :( (You have to be 18 now)....
Good luck to the rest of you!
Logan
Good luck to the rest of you!
Logan
My Fault
01-03-2005, 05:59 PM
Don't worry Logan, by the time they get approval from the California Board of Education you will probably be 18.
Gotta suck for the AM guys as they now face up to the biggest obstacle they will ever deal with in their lives, the California bureaucracy. So Bobby, what are the reasons for going through the flaming hoop that is the CBE?
Gotta suck for the AM guys as they now face up to the biggest obstacle they will ever deal with in their lives, the California bureaucracy. So Bobby, what are the reasons for going through the flaming hoop that is the CBE?
Rabid pitbull
01-03-2005, 06:04 PM
I just got it too, seems like the accredation process has changed a few things. Still I hope that it will be as open to all as before. Now it seems that a few more qualifying steps are necessary to allow for the diploma. What kind of a degree is "Advanced Studies in Character Animation"? Is it a certificate or associates degree of some kind? Very exciting to see this news! Now we just need to hope that CA to give approval!
lhvio89
01-03-2005, 06:05 PM
Hahaha, at this rate, maybe :p
Anyway, is the reason they are going through the CBE basically just to be able to offer a degree?
Logan
Anyway, is the reason they are going through the CBE basically just to be able to offer a degree?
Logan
lhvio89
01-03-2005, 06:07 PM
This 18 year old thing does suck....and I was looking at those Sample Questions for the little test you have to take....and, well, imho, it doesn't really look like you even need to have gotten through middle school to answer them :p
Oh well, only a couple of years to wait :(
Logan
Oh well, only a couple of years to wait :(
Logan
mike33
01-03-2005, 06:17 PM
8. For launch, we will only be supporrting Windows PC platform at this time.
Cripes! Time and time again if you use a Mac your considered second class. : )
Not that it matters at the moment... but as a Machead I just felt it was
important to say something....
Back to the non-artistic, non-imaginative, non-inspiring day job on a PC
(which actually works 99% of the time... its a Dell).
Good Luck ya'll.... I still can't spend the money. Even tried to convince the wife more then once.
Mike
Cripes! Time and time again if you use a Mac your considered second class. : )
Not that it matters at the moment... but as a Machead I just felt it was
important to say something....
Back to the non-artistic, non-imaginative, non-inspiring day job on a PC
(which actually works 99% of the time... its a Dell).
Good Luck ya'll.... I still can't spend the money. Even tried to convince the wife more then once.
Mike
maelstrom
01-03-2005, 06:19 PM
....and I was looking at those Sample Questions for the little test you have to take....and, well, imho, it doesn't really look like you even need to have gotten through middle school to answer them :p
i hear you.... :rolleyes:
also, how does CBE approve foreign schools? I went to university in Switzerland - our prequisite school is called differently than High School albeit lasts much longer :D It would be such a ridiculous shame not to be able to participate due to some inflexible/*** beaurocrats.
i hear you.... :rolleyes:
also, how does CBE approve foreign schools? I went to university in Switzerland - our prequisite school is called differently than High School albeit lasts much longer :D It would be such a ridiculous shame not to be able to participate due to some inflexible/*** beaurocrats.
vanlicht
01-03-2005, 06:20 PM
Got the newsletter v3.5, well, that .5 thing sounds like a software update, smart way lol!
And what, math exam? :eek:Shoot since junior hign shool (8 grade??) my math never reach C....spooky spooky. But luckily the sample looks kind of okay.
And behold, those pictures of mentors under the same roof, that is indeed a magnificent view. Hopefully AM get application done soon, finger crossed.
----------------
BTW, guys, don't forget to donate for the victims of Tsunami and Earthquakes.
And what, math exam? :eek:Shoot since junior hign shool (8 grade??) my math never reach C....spooky spooky. But luckily the sample looks kind of okay.
And behold, those pictures of mentors under the same roof, that is indeed a magnificent view. Hopefully AM get application done soon, finger crossed.
----------------
BTW, guys, don't forget to donate for the victims of Tsunami and Earthquakes.
lhvio89
01-03-2005, 06:29 PM
Heh, didn't even notice the "Only PC Will be supported" thing. Once I saw you have to be 18, I didn't read on any more, just looked at the pictures. Gah.
Logan
Logan
olioli
01-03-2005, 06:35 PM
So pace 1=2000
pace 2=2500
Do you have to pay all at once or will you be able to do a monthly payment plan.
pace 2=2500
Do you have to pay all at once or will you be able to do a monthly payment plan.
caco
01-03-2005, 06:39 PM
Hi all,
I have a question. I am getting married on July 15th of 2005 and plan on enrolling as soon as enrollment is available. I am also planning to take the fast 1 assignment per week schedule. My question is this:
If I am away for let's say, two weeks, is there a way to make up the work after I come back? Can I arrange this on an individual basis with my mentor?
Any info on this would be great. I'll look through the rest of this thread to see if this was answered previously.
Thanks,
CaCo :)
I have a question. I am getting married on July 15th of 2005 and plan on enrolling as soon as enrollment is available. I am also planning to take the fast 1 assignment per week schedule. My question is this:
If I am away for let's say, two weeks, is there a way to make up the work after I come back? Can I arrange this on an individual basis with my mentor?
Any info on this would be great. I'll look through the rest of this thread to see if this was answered previously.
Thanks,
CaCo :)
Bentagon
01-03-2005, 06:46 PM
oh goody goody! A new newsletter :bounce:
I'm sooo excited... Let's see.
**comment on newsletter placeholder**
Oooh. Some very interesting news we've got up there. No taxes is a very good thing :D
Math test should work fine since I'm in an 8 hour maths direction at school (that's the maximum hours), in the country that's supposed to have the highest general math level of the world (or so said a huge test of 2003). I'll be trying some of those questions in a minute
The thing I'm most afraid of is the essay... but with some confidence, I guess that should go fine... That poll is cool too! It shows us a bit how much "competition" we have. Still some questions are unanswered, though: how many students will be able to get in /3 months, or /mentor. And who's that Jason-guy? I would fly over to the US to get that job :D (at least in summer vacation)
SUPEREXCITED!!
- Bentagon
I'm sooo excited... Let's see.
**comment on newsletter placeholder**
Oooh. Some very interesting news we've got up there. No taxes is a very good thing :D
Math test should work fine since I'm in an 8 hour maths direction at school (that's the maximum hours), in the country that's supposed to have the highest general math level of the world (or so said a huge test of 2003). I'll be trying some of those questions in a minute
The thing I'm most afraid of is the essay... but with some confidence, I guess that should go fine... That poll is cool too! It shows us a bit how much "competition" we have. Still some questions are unanswered, though: how many students will be able to get in /3 months, or /mentor. And who's that Jason-guy? I would fly over to the US to get that job :D (at least in summer vacation)
SUPEREXCITED!!
- Bentagon
RayenD
01-03-2005, 06:48 PM
Thanks for the news.. for many reasons, I like these news :).
alexandrecollac
01-03-2005, 06:48 PM
6. Upon acceptace, student's will need to provide proof of a high school diploma or GED equivelant (a photo copy via mail or a signed request transcript approval form). College transcripts will suffice.
will I need to submit a copy of my high school degree in english???, don´t know how much time i´ll spend to get a copy in english, don´t know even if i can get one.
Will i need to make a test to be acepted???:argh: i visited the page with questions everytinhg is in feet, foot, i don´t use this crap. i work in the metric sistem like the rest of the world
will I need to submit a copy of my high school degree in english???, don´t know how much time i´ll spend to get a copy in english, don´t know even if i can get one.
Will i need to make a test to be acepted???:argh: i visited the page with questions everytinhg is in feet, foot, i don´t use this crap. i work in the metric sistem like the rest of the world
kirko
01-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Yikes, 30 min after the newsletter arrived, there were already 165 votes. I wonder how first come first served will work if about 1000 people apply in the first second!
Sniffet
01-03-2005, 06:56 PM
Wow a essay too... That will be the shortest but hardest piece of paper I need to write for quite a while.. I hope they won't get as many essays as there are posts in this forum, or AM will never start :)
/PeterK
/PeterK
Bentagon
01-03-2005, 07:03 PM
will I need to submit a copy of my high school degree in english???, don´t know how much time i´ll spend to get a copy in english, don´t know even if i can get one. Just show a copy, duplicate it and translate the words themselves. If they don't believe you, they can still take the dictionairy. For the student version of Animation Master, I had to show my student card, and I did the same thing...
You might be right about the metric system, though. But if it's a maths test, that shouldn't matter. I'll see if the questions have a physics side on them too...
**edit** the five sample questions I got were just laughable :D (at least to me) Downloading the full list now.
- Bentagon
You might be right about the metric system, though. But if it's a maths test, that shouldn't matter. I'll see if the questions have a physics side on them too...
**edit** the five sample questions I got were just laughable :D (at least to me) Downloading the full list now.
- Bentagon
mogla
01-03-2005, 07:04 PM
Sounds interesting...
If only I could establish whether I can afford it or not...
and why is pricing geared around what other schools are charging instead of the actual cost of delivery.
Certificated study should be a must if you successully complete the course and your tutors are highly regarded in the industry.
I don't want to be a stick in the mud but; I was instumental in the setting up of a college which offered certificated studies to City & Guilds level just recently so I don't understand why it's a grey area for what seems to be an organised group of high end pro's who make the industry what it is. Who is it that doubts a students/employees ability?
If only I could establish whether I can afford it or not...
and why is pricing geared around what other schools are charging instead of the actual cost of delivery.
Certificated study should be a must if you successully complete the course and your tutors are highly regarded in the industry.
I don't want to be a stick in the mud but; I was instumental in the setting up of a college which offered certificated studies to City & Guilds level just recently so I don't understand why it's a grey area for what seems to be an organised group of high end pro's who make the industry what it is. Who is it that doubts a students/employees ability?
RayenD
01-03-2005, 07:07 PM
And who's that Jason-guy? I would fly over to the US to get that job :D (at least in summer vacation)
Jason "Stop Staring" Osipa, as far as I can see.
Buy his book, you will never forget his face! ;).
Jason "Stop Staring" Osipa, as far as I can see.
Buy his book, you will never forget his face! ;).
alexandrecollac
01-03-2005, 07:08 PM
Just show a copy, duplicate it and translate the words themselves. If they don't believe you, they can still take the dictionairy. For the student version of Animation Master, I had to show my student card, and I did the same thing...
You might be right about the metric system, though. But if it's a maths test, that shouldn't matter. I'll see if the questions have a physics side on them too...
**edit** the five sample questions I got were just laughable :D (at least to me) Downloading the full list now.
- BentagonI hope sending a portuguese certificate will work.
about the test, i saw that, it is realy very easy, i was just kidding about the metric thing:D , but i dont see reason for this.
tnks
You might be right about the metric system, though. But if it's a maths test, that shouldn't matter. I'll see if the questions have a physics side on them too...
**edit** the five sample questions I got were just laughable :D (at least to me) Downloading the full list now.
- BentagonI hope sending a portuguese certificate will work.
about the test, i saw that, it is realy very easy, i was just kidding about the metric thing:D , but i dont see reason for this.
tnks
mmkelly011881
01-03-2005, 07:11 PM
ah crap.. i havent gotten it yet on my work email... are we allowed to enroll yet?? if so i'll leave work and check my home email!!
My Fault
01-03-2005, 07:11 PM
Jason "Stop Staring" Osipa, as far as I can see.
Buy his book, you will never forget his face! ;).
So to become an intern with AM you have to write one of the best books on facial animation.... steep requirements :)
Buy his book, you will never forget his face! ;).
So to become an intern with AM you have to write one of the best books on facial animation.... steep requirements :)
Bentagon
01-03-2005, 07:13 PM
Or have to start a 100+ page animation mentor thread... ;)
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
jschleifer
01-03-2005, 07:32 PM
that's not jason the osipa.. that's jason the intern!
CGmonkey
01-03-2005, 07:40 PM
$75 registration fee plus the money charged for the education ? *confused*
ArneK
01-03-2005, 07:41 PM
For launch, we will only be supporrting Windows PC platform at this time. Cripes! Time and time again if you use a Mac your considered second class.
Yup. Here we go again. From the start AM said they would support Windows and Mac OSX - but now only PC..? Well, thanks alot. Mac'ers gets the boot again. Don't see why really. Maya works on OSX and so does Explorer and Flash... :sad:
Yup. Here we go again. From the start AM said they would support Windows and Mac OSX - but now only PC..? Well, thanks alot. Mac'ers gets the boot again. Don't see why really. Maya works on OSX and so does Explorer and Flash... :sad:
My Fault
01-03-2005, 07:46 PM
that's not jason the osipa.. that's jason the intern!
And that comes straight from Jason the Schleifer! :D
And that comes straight from Jason the Schleifer! :D
jschleifer
01-03-2005, 07:48 PM
I don't want to speak for bobby, shawn & carlos, but I believe the reason it's on PC only right now is due to minor bugs 'n such with the site on os-x.. not due to an undying hatred of anything not windows!
don't worry.. they're working on it, but they feel it's safest to support what they KNOW works instead of what they HOPE works.
whee! :)
don't worry.. they're working on it, but they feel it's safest to support what they KNOW works instead of what they HOPE works.
whee! :)
RayenD
01-03-2005, 07:48 PM
$75 registration fee plus the money charged for the education ? *confused*
Probably obligatory-something to keep goverment running. No tax, so no need to be confused :). Look at bright side.
Probably obligatory-something to keep goverment running. No tax, so no need to be confused :). Look at bright side.
Bentagon
01-03-2005, 07:51 PM
They're definitly not Mac haters... In their sneak preview, Maya was running on a Mac!
The $75 fee is probably for getting into the first class. So $2075 for that one really, and after that you pay another $2000 each time you want to continue the classes.
- Bentagon
The $75 fee is probably for getting into the first class. So $2075 for that one really, and after that you pay another $2000 each time you want to continue the classes.
- Bentagon
ArneK
01-03-2005, 08:00 PM
I don't want to speak for bobby, shawn & carlos, but I believe the reason it's on PC only right now is due to minor bugs 'n such with the site on os-x.. not due to an undying hatred of anything not windows!
Like everybody else I've tried to "calm down" from my enthusiasm and hopefully get started on this ride, but I didn't expect a "Mac-thing" to keep me from it. Oh well, let's hope they'll get it fixed until the next course starts in the spring... :hmm:
Like everybody else I've tried to "calm down" from my enthusiasm and hopefully get started on this ride, but I didn't expect a "Mac-thing" to keep me from it. Oh well, let's hope they'll get it fixed until the next course starts in the spring... :hmm:
clockwerkz
01-03-2005, 08:01 PM
In my book, any day we get an update from those bad boys over at AM.com is a good day. And this was some sweet news. Yeah sure, so the California Beurocracy sucks. It sucks for every state, if you ask me. Down here in Florida, they would be getting the same slow ass red tape. I think we should all start snail mailing that office with requests to speed it up. We're all dying over here!
So now we need to write a 1 page essay, do a math test, turn in a high school diploma of some sort, and pay 75.00 extra. This news is the equivalent of having run a marathon only to find out you need to take 10 more steps. Peanuts.
As for the 18 and over issue.. yeah, that might limit a few of you guys. But for those who it does apply..you have time on your hands. We'll make sure to keep them afloat by the time you turn of age. :-)
Good stuff. So now I'm assuming they'll be pushing that start date a little bit back?
cW
So now we need to write a 1 page essay, do a math test, turn in a high school diploma of some sort, and pay 75.00 extra. This news is the equivalent of having run a marathon only to find out you need to take 10 more steps. Peanuts.
As for the 18 and over issue.. yeah, that might limit a few of you guys. But for those who it does apply..you have time on your hands. We'll make sure to keep them afloat by the time you turn of age. :-)
Good stuff. So now I'm assuming they'll be pushing that start date a little bit back?
cW
lhvio89
01-03-2005, 08:06 PM
ah crap.. i havent gotten it yet on my work email... are we allowed to enroll yet?? if so i'll leave work and check my home email!!
No...no enrollment yet...
Logan
No...no enrollment yet...
Logan
Kenny_Rocks
01-03-2005, 08:29 PM
I'm in the UK and dont have a High School Certificate.
Since we dont have High Schools in the UK.
But I do have a BAHons in Animation from University :)
is that good enough?
What do AM expect from it's European students for proof of education?
PEace.
Since we dont have High Schools in the UK.
But I do have a BAHons in Animation from University :)
is that good enough?
What do AM expect from it's European students for proof of education?
PEace.
Mooncalf
01-03-2005, 11:47 PM
Hm... I'm along with the Mac crew here. I wonder if it will be a "No Macs allowed" situation, or more like "You can use your Mac... but if you run into trouble on our site, you're kinda on your own."
I've run into different definitions of "not supported."
In any case, I think that whenever it happens, however it happens, AMOnline will be a great thing. :) Essays, math quizzes, whatever. Bring it on! Woo-hoo!
- M
I've run into different definitions of "not supported."
In any case, I think that whenever it happens, however it happens, AMOnline will be a great thing. :) Essays, math quizzes, whatever. Bring it on! Woo-hoo!
- M
Rikki
01-03-2005, 11:47 PM
I still haven't got the email :( Is it available online somewhere?
I hope I'm not gonna get this when the enrollment time comes...
I hope I'm not gonna get this when the enrollment time comes...
lhvio89
01-04-2005, 12:09 AM
Rikki: here is a link to the newsletter v3.5
http://www.animationmentor.com/newsletter/AMonlineNewsletter_3_5.html
Logan
http://www.animationmentor.com/newsletter/AMonlineNewsletter_3_5.html
Logan
Rikki
01-04-2005, 12:14 AM
Thanks Logan...
Is there any way to check my subscribe status or something?
Is there any way to check my subscribe status or something?
mmkelly011881
01-04-2005, 12:15 AM
Thx Logan.. i was freaking out there
lhvio89
01-04-2005, 12:17 AM
Thx Logan.. i was freaking out there
np at all.
Logan
np at all.
Logan
Rikki
01-04-2005, 12:23 AM
Sorry, one more thing... Maybe the AM guys could answer if they see this.
I don't think I have anything suitable to show my high school qualifications (I'm from the UK) but I do have my degree scroll. Does it mean proof of high school (or higher) qualification, or must it be high school?
I don't think I have anything suitable to show my high school qualifications (I'm from the UK) but I do have my degree scroll. Does it mean proof of high school (or higher) qualification, or must it be high school?
andy_maxman
01-04-2005, 04:50 AM
another mail and bammm the thread shoots up by four pages in less than 24 hrs.
people pls keep updating the vote numbers here when you cast your vote.....( hope thats ok with the AM crew )
when i did it was around -
pace 1 - 358
pace 2 - 311
just to get the possiblities goin...
thanks and that's great picture mentors..
love you all,
-andy
people pls keep updating the vote numbers here when you cast your vote.....( hope thats ok with the AM crew )
when i did it was around -
pace 1 - 358
pace 2 - 311
just to get the possiblities goin...
thanks and that's great picture mentors..
love you all,
-andy
mattmos
01-04-2005, 10:42 AM
another mail and bammm the thread shoots up by four pages in less than 24 hrs.
people pls keep updating the vote numbers here when you cast your vote.....( hope thats ok with the AM crew )
when i did it was around -
pace 1 - 358
pace 2 - 311
just to get the possiblities goin...
thanks and that's great picture mentors..
love you all,
-andy
it's really interesting to see how many people are voting, and not a little scary!
pace 1 - 425
pace 2 - 353
Demand is high :)
people pls keep updating the vote numbers here when you cast your vote.....( hope thats ok with the AM crew )
when i did it was around -
pace 1 - 358
pace 2 - 311
just to get the possiblities goin...
thanks and that's great picture mentors..
love you all,
-andy
it's really interesting to see how many people are voting, and not a little scary!
pace 1 - 425
pace 2 - 353
Demand is high :)
stewartjones
01-04-2005, 11:24 AM
I'm in the UK and dont have a High School Certificate.
Since we dont have High Schools in the UK.
But I do have a BAHons in Animation from University :)
is that good enough?
What do AM expect from it's European students for proof of education?
PEace.
I would have thought that would be more than good enough! Although I am not 100%sure on the equiv, but I thought it was GCSE's!?!?... Could perhaps be a National Diploma/Diploma of some sort, but am sure you have nothing to worry about!
Since we dont have High Schools in the UK.
But I do have a BAHons in Animation from University :)
is that good enough?
What do AM expect from it's European students for proof of education?
PEace.
I would have thought that would be more than good enough! Although I am not 100%sure on the equiv, but I thought it was GCSE's!?!?... Could perhaps be a National Diploma/Diploma of some sort, but am sure you have nothing to worry about!
Bentagon
01-04-2005, 11:55 AM
It doesn't have to be a High School certificate. The certificate has to be from the school you finish when you're 18 ;) Otherwise they can't complete one of their goals, to bring decent animation education to the whole globe.
I think that's secondary school for you guys? (it is for me)
I wonder if all the voters on that poll are actually planning to do it, or just thinking about doing it, but just cast their vote in the meanwhile.
Hm... I'm along with the Mac crew here. I wonder if it will be a "No Macs allowed" situation, or more like "You can use your Mac... but if you run into trouble on our site, you're kinda on your own." As Jason Schleiffer said, it's probably because the Mac version doesn't work 100% yet. And they don't want to let people pay for something that might not be working. Definitly if they could've been teaching someone who wants it just as much and CAN do everything.
- Bentagon
I think that's secondary school for you guys? (it is for me)
I wonder if all the voters on that poll are actually planning to do it, or just thinking about doing it, but just cast their vote in the meanwhile.
Hm... I'm along with the Mac crew here. I wonder if it will be a "No Macs allowed" situation, or more like "You can use your Mac... but if you run into trouble on our site, you're kinda on your own." As Jason Schleiffer said, it's probably because the Mac version doesn't work 100% yet. And they don't want to let people pay for something that might not be working. Definitly if they could've been teaching someone who wants it just as much and CAN do everything.
- Bentagon
LIGHTYEAR
01-04-2005, 12:15 PM
Does anyone have the faintest idea of what the ratio of Mentors to Students will be (apologies, I know this has been touched on before in this epic thread) I'm guessing that somewhere between 10 and 20 per mentor (correct me if Im wrong, anything more would be unmanagable?) and I count 24 mentors?? thats a total intake of between 240 and 480 and at the last count we have 778 who have voted. Gonna be lots of disapointed people out there.
Another point worth considering, you guys on the west coast of the USA are 8 hours behind me (UK) so when the registration goes live, which is more than likely to be your time not mine, all us Europeans and anyone else east of here is likely to be counting sheep. Doesnt seem fair somehow that there is a geographical advantage? Everyone on the course will be in the USA. Would be good if we were told in advance when to expect the Registration.
Another point worth considering, you guys on the west coast of the USA are 8 hours behind me (UK) so when the registration goes live, which is more than likely to be your time not mine, all us Europeans and anyone else east of here is likely to be counting sheep. Doesnt seem fair somehow that there is a geographical advantage? Everyone on the course will be in the USA. Would be good if we were told in advance when to expect the Registration.
ArneK
01-04-2005, 12:47 PM
Another point worth considering, you guys on the west coast of the USA are 8 hours behind me (UK) so when the registration goes live, which is more than likely to be your time not mine, all us Europeans and anyone else east of here is likely to be counting sheep. Doesnt seem fair somehow that there is a geographical advantage?
Y'know I don't think the registration will be based only upon who has their creditcards ready first. There are papers to be filled out, school certificates to be enclosed, and an essay has to be written. And based upon these things, alongside the financial ability, the school will select the first batch of students. I guess. As this is quite a normal process to go through at any school you apply for. Note that this is only me guessing. We will know quite soon. I will have to wait until the next batch of students anyway, due to the Mac-thing. Patience sucks... lol
Y'know I don't think the registration will be based only upon who has their creditcards ready first. There are papers to be filled out, school certificates to be enclosed, and an essay has to be written. And based upon these things, alongside the financial ability, the school will select the first batch of students. I guess. As this is quite a normal process to go through at any school you apply for. Note that this is only me guessing. We will know quite soon. I will have to wait until the next batch of students anyway, due to the Mac-thing. Patience sucks... lol
ArbitraryDesign
01-04-2005, 02:03 PM
My question is regarding the essay.
I have already written mine... I spent quite a while on it after receiving the 3.5 newsletter... but now I am having second thoughts.
Should a member of the AM team read this post, I would appreciate some advice:
Should the essay focus more on my personal reasons for wishing to learn animation, or should it focus on what I wish to learn and how I plan to use that knowledge in the future?
After reading my essay, I noticed a preponderance of the words "I", "me" and "my".
It is my desire to NOT sound like a self-involved tool... but my essay seems more like a personal history than an application cover letter.
Any guidance would be appreciated.
Cheers!
Robert
P.S.
For those of you with budget limitations, try to look on the delay as a good thing. It gives you some more time to raise the tuition!
To pay for this, I am actually considering getting a jo... a jo.... aaargh can't even say it!:eek:
I have already written mine... I spent quite a while on it after receiving the 3.5 newsletter... but now I am having second thoughts.
Should a member of the AM team read this post, I would appreciate some advice:
Should the essay focus more on my personal reasons for wishing to learn animation, or should it focus on what I wish to learn and how I plan to use that knowledge in the future?
After reading my essay, I noticed a preponderance of the words "I", "me" and "my".
It is my desire to NOT sound like a self-involved tool... but my essay seems more like a personal history than an application cover letter.
Any guidance would be appreciated.
Cheers!
Robert
P.S.
For those of you with budget limitations, try to look on the delay as a good thing. It gives you some more time to raise the tuition!
To pay for this, I am actually considering getting a jo... a jo.... aaargh can't even say it!:eek:
Bentagon
01-04-2005, 02:07 PM
The inscription date and hour will be announced probably a few days before it starts. They're not stupid ;)
And I doubt it will have to do with having your creditcard ready, since you can also send checks. I think the system was going to work like this: every newsletter subscriber will get a code, with which they can log in on the site. Once there, you'll be able to choose something like "I want to be in!" and the first X persons to do that will be in.
That's what I think it was going to be, or something similar.
So no worries about geography :)
- Bentagon
And I doubt it will have to do with having your creditcard ready, since you can also send checks. I think the system was going to work like this: every newsletter subscriber will get a code, with which they can log in on the site. Once there, you'll be able to choose something like "I want to be in!" and the first X persons to do that will be in.
That's what I think it was going to be, or something similar.
So no worries about geography :)
- Bentagon
Steve McRae
01-04-2005, 03:16 PM
it would be nice if a 'non-accredited' option would be offered for those who don't give a hill of beans about a diploma . . .
=)
cheers,
=)
cheers,
animboom
01-04-2005, 09:39 PM
Hey, Folks. Bobby Beck here from AnimationMentor.com. We apprecaite your continued support. I will do my best to explain the many questions that have come up:
Alexandrecollac: will I need to submit a copy of my high school degree in english???, don´t know how much time i´ll spend to get a copy in english, don´t know even if i can get one.
Rikki: I don't think I have anything suitable to show my high school qualifications (I'm from the UK) but I do have my degree scroll. Does it mean proof of high school (or higher) qualification, or must it be high school?
The Key word in the newsletter is "equivelant." If you are 17 and have this equivelant then that is fine. If it is in another language that is fine. If you have gone to a little bit of college and can show some kind of transcripts that is fine, too. The reason is that we have to show the state that our students have the "ability to benefit" from our program. If we take someone that is 15 years old and they graduate from AnimationMentor.com when they are 16 chances are they are not going to be able to get a job, move accoss the country and sign a lease on a rental, along with the other many "legal" concerns that may come up. This is not our rule but is something we have to abide by.
My Fault: Gotta suck for the AM guys as they now face up to the biggest obstacle they will ever deal with in their lives, the California bureaucracy. So Bobby, what are the reasons for going through the flaming hoop that is the CBE?
Yeah. We made plans to have everything ready for December with the state and were met with problems. Instead of just sitting around we are taking this extra time to implement new things as well as fully tighten up the rest.
The reason to go through these hoops are because we simply have to. If we open up a private/postsecondary or vocational trade school it is a law that we get approval. It's not a new thing, it is, however making us change things more than we had hoped. But honestly it's not all too bad, it just means waiting...
Mike 33: Cripes! Time and time again if you use a Mac your considered second class. Not that it matters at the moment... but as a Machead I just felt it was
important to say something....
Hey, I'll be the first to say that I love my mac big time. It is impossible to develop a site as complex as our for all browsers and all platforms. That was our original goal and our developers laughed at us. :p Since then we have learned that we need to make it solid on one platform and then build out from there. Each browser is different.
As far as the Mac goes it works very well using netscape. There are a few things that do not work and we are trying our best to get them working, however, this may take some time. I've also noticed on my G4 laptop 1.2 ghz Mac that it handles graphics much slower than a 1 ghz PC machine? Not sure why. In that regard there is a considerable speed increase overall by using the PC.
Again, I love my mac and so does Shawn and Carlos. We've done so much work on these things over the last 3 years of AM. So please don't feel like a "second class" it's just that the largest majority of our users are PC based and we had to develop #1 for them and then expand to the smaller areas. Long live the MAC!
Will i need to make a test to be acepted??? i visited the page with questions everytinhg is in feet, foot, i don´t use this crap. i work in the metric sistem like the rest of the world
The test is a formality that is required by the state. If we feel your essay gives us reason to believe that you have the "ability to benefit" from our program then you will be accepted.
ArbitraryDesign: Should the essay focus more on my personal reasons for wishing to learn animation, or should it focus on what I wish to learn and how I plan to use that knowledge in the future?
The essay should be whatever you want it to be. We're not so concerned with correct grammar as we are with how excited you are and dedicated you are to learning from AnimationMentor.com, what you think it will do for you, etc. If it has a lot of "I" "me" and "my" that is fine. We're not looking for litteary works of art ;) just something that shows you are willing and able to learn and are jazzed!
Clockwerkz: So now we need to write a 1 page essay, do a math test, turn in a high school diploma of some sort, and pay 75.00 extra. This news is the equivalent of having run a marathon only to find out you need to take 10 more steps. Peanuts.
Thanks Clockwerkz. These steps are required and even though I agree with Atomman's quote: (start)Atomman: it would be nice if a 'non-accredited' option would be offered for those who don't give a hill of beans about a diploma. (END)
It's not a matter of if we want to do these things or not. We simply have to in order to offer the type of training we are offering.
Who’s the “Jason/Intern” guy.
Jason, is not Osipa. That guy's a crazy amazing professional at EA games. Jason is our intern who comes from the Academy of Art college. He's gone through 2 weeks of our program and... without sounding too over confident... he said it was extremely amazing. ;)
I hope this answers your immediate questions. Thanks for hanging in there with the whole thing. I know it's taking longer than any of us imagined, but we do feel it will be worth the extra wait. We'll keep everyone updated.
-BOOM
Alexandrecollac: will I need to submit a copy of my high school degree in english???, don´t know how much time i´ll spend to get a copy in english, don´t know even if i can get one.
Rikki: I don't think I have anything suitable to show my high school qualifications (I'm from the UK) but I do have my degree scroll. Does it mean proof of high school (or higher) qualification, or must it be high school?
The Key word in the newsletter is "equivelant." If you are 17 and have this equivelant then that is fine. If it is in another language that is fine. If you have gone to a little bit of college and can show some kind of transcripts that is fine, too. The reason is that we have to show the state that our students have the "ability to benefit" from our program. If we take someone that is 15 years old and they graduate from AnimationMentor.com when they are 16 chances are they are not going to be able to get a job, move accoss the country and sign a lease on a rental, along with the other many "legal" concerns that may come up. This is not our rule but is something we have to abide by.
My Fault: Gotta suck for the AM guys as they now face up to the biggest obstacle they will ever deal with in their lives, the California bureaucracy. So Bobby, what are the reasons for going through the flaming hoop that is the CBE?
Yeah. We made plans to have everything ready for December with the state and were met with problems. Instead of just sitting around we are taking this extra time to implement new things as well as fully tighten up the rest.
The reason to go through these hoops are because we simply have to. If we open up a private/postsecondary or vocational trade school it is a law that we get approval. It's not a new thing, it is, however making us change things more than we had hoped. But honestly it's not all too bad, it just means waiting...
Mike 33: Cripes! Time and time again if you use a Mac your considered second class. Not that it matters at the moment... but as a Machead I just felt it was
important to say something....
Hey, I'll be the first to say that I love my mac big time. It is impossible to develop a site as complex as our for all browsers and all platforms. That was our original goal and our developers laughed at us. :p Since then we have learned that we need to make it solid on one platform and then build out from there. Each browser is different.
As far as the Mac goes it works very well using netscape. There are a few things that do not work and we are trying our best to get them working, however, this may take some time. I've also noticed on my G4 laptop 1.2 ghz Mac that it handles graphics much slower than a 1 ghz PC machine? Not sure why. In that regard there is a considerable speed increase overall by using the PC.
Again, I love my mac and so does Shawn and Carlos. We've done so much work on these things over the last 3 years of AM. So please don't feel like a "second class" it's just that the largest majority of our users are PC based and we had to develop #1 for them and then expand to the smaller areas. Long live the MAC!
Will i need to make a test to be acepted??? i visited the page with questions everytinhg is in feet, foot, i don´t use this crap. i work in the metric sistem like the rest of the world
The test is a formality that is required by the state. If we feel your essay gives us reason to believe that you have the "ability to benefit" from our program then you will be accepted.
ArbitraryDesign: Should the essay focus more on my personal reasons for wishing to learn animation, or should it focus on what I wish to learn and how I plan to use that knowledge in the future?
The essay should be whatever you want it to be. We're not so concerned with correct grammar as we are with how excited you are and dedicated you are to learning from AnimationMentor.com, what you think it will do for you, etc. If it has a lot of "I" "me" and "my" that is fine. We're not looking for litteary works of art ;) just something that shows you are willing and able to learn and are jazzed!
Clockwerkz: So now we need to write a 1 page essay, do a math test, turn in a high school diploma of some sort, and pay 75.00 extra. This news is the equivalent of having run a marathon only to find out you need to take 10 more steps. Peanuts.
Thanks Clockwerkz. These steps are required and even though I agree with Atomman's quote: (start)Atomman: it would be nice if a 'non-accredited' option would be offered for those who don't give a hill of beans about a diploma. (END)
It's not a matter of if we want to do these things or not. We simply have to in order to offer the type of training we are offering.
Who’s the “Jason/Intern” guy.
Jason, is not Osipa. That guy's a crazy amazing professional at EA games. Jason is our intern who comes from the Academy of Art college. He's gone through 2 weeks of our program and... without sounding too over confident... he said it was extremely amazing. ;)
I hope this answers your immediate questions. Thanks for hanging in there with the whole thing. I know it's taking longer than any of us imagined, but we do feel it will be worth the extra wait. We'll keep everyone updated.
-BOOM
mmkelly011881
01-04-2005, 10:11 PM
Thanks for the heads up Bobby, good luck to you, Shawn and Carlos
philippeduvin
01-04-2005, 10:26 PM
Thanks bobby for keeping up with the news :thumbsup:
my essay is almost done !!
my essay is almost done !!
clockwerkz
01-04-2005, 10:47 PM
Bobby "BOOM" = E.F. Hutton of our time. :-)
"When the BOOM speaks, people listen." :thumbsup:
cW
"When the BOOM speaks, people listen." :thumbsup:
cW
Bentagon
01-04-2005, 10:57 PM
Thanks a lot for the replies, Bobby! Good luck with the polishing ;)!
Heh... I suddenly feel this strange urge to buy a Mac :D
- Bentagon
Heh... I suddenly feel this strange urge to buy a Mac :D
- Bentagon
Tom N.
01-04-2005, 10:59 PM
... I spent quite a while on it after receiving the 3.5 newsletter..
Help! I stopped getting the newsletter after Newsletter #2.. Is there somewhere I can be linked the the other issues? My mail is being kinda busted, I'll have to open a new account somewhere else and resubmit an address to AM.com.
But for now, can someone fwd me the newsletter? I'd really appreciate it. This essay we need to write is news to me. My email is tommywhoops@hotmail.com
please please please please
:)
-Tom N.
Help! I stopped getting the newsletter after Newsletter #2.. Is there somewhere I can be linked the the other issues? My mail is being kinda busted, I'll have to open a new account somewhere else and resubmit an address to AM.com.
But for now, can someone fwd me the newsletter? I'd really appreciate it. This essay we need to write is news to me. My email is tommywhoops@hotmail.com
please please please please
:)
-Tom N.
Bentagon
01-04-2005, 11:01 PM
The link to it was posted on one of the previous pages. But because I'm in a good mood, I'll give it to you again ;)
http://www.animationmentor.com/newsletter/AMonlineNewsletter_3_5.html
Be sure to re-subscribe, though, because if the inscription works with a personal code as I thought it would, you'll be doomed if you don't ;)
- Bentagon
http://www.animationmentor.com/newsletter/AMonlineNewsletter_3_5.html
Be sure to re-subscribe, though, because if the inscription works with a personal code as I thought it would, you'll be doomed if you don't ;)
- Bentagon
My Fault
01-04-2005, 11:15 PM
Great stuff Bobby, really looking forward to it. You guys should come crash the big concept art workshop that Massive Black is hosting in San Fran this weekend. I bet tons of folk (me included) would love to see the AM gang there. I should bring a big stash of Kit Kats just in case! :scream:
andy_maxman
01-05-2005, 05:34 AM
Heh... I suddenly feel this strange urge to buy a Mac :D
- Bentagon
wonder how rich i would get if bobby just mentions ' help poor andy ' :-)
oh! boy! every time i am faced with reasons to postpone the idea of doing this course, i come back here on the forum.....see the enthusiasm......and then i get pumped up again....console myself that there would be enough time for work, wife, kid, AM, and sleep in a day.
all the best to the aspirants,
;-)andy
- Bentagon
wonder how rich i would get if bobby just mentions ' help poor andy ' :-)
oh! boy! every time i am faced with reasons to postpone the idea of doing this course, i come back here on the forum.....see the enthusiasm......and then i get pumped up again....console myself that there would be enough time for work, wife, kid, AM, and sleep in a day.
all the best to the aspirants,
;-)andy
Mojo Rizen
01-05-2005, 12:23 PM
Tough brake on going windows only, I work in an office that is all Mac, and I use a Mac for personal use. I am not able to make the first group of classes, so this is a bit of a non point for me at this time.
I do plan on applying for classes in a later session so please send out an update when your system works with Macs.
Thanks
I do plan on applying for classes in a later session so please send out an update when your system works with Macs.
Thanks
Rikki
01-05-2005, 02:30 PM
Just a thought and obviously its all entirely dependant on everyones situation, but if you're prepared to pay $8000-$10000 for this course, couldn't you spend a couple hundred more $ on a cheap PC just to view the site? You could probably pick up a dirt cheap machine for next to nothing in a local paper or eBay. It wouldn't need to do anything more than run a browser window because you could still do the actual work on your Mac. :)
[edit] Or even just get Virtual PC for your Mac. Again, it only needs to run a browser, you can do the work in OS X.
[edit] Or even just get Virtual PC for your Mac. Again, it only needs to run a browser, you can do the work in OS X.
clockwerkz
01-05-2005, 03:06 PM
Just a thought and obviously its all entirely dependant on everyones situation, but if you're prepared to pay $8000-$10000 for this course, couldn't you spend a couple hundred more $ on a cheap PC just to view the site? You could probably pick up a dirt cheap machine for next to nothing in a local paper or eBay. It wouldn't need to do anything more than run a browser window because you could still do the actual work on your Mac. :)
[edit] Or even just get Virtual PC for your Mac. Again, it only needs to run a browser, you can do the work in OS X.
Agreed. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
cW
[edit] Or even just get Virtual PC for your Mac. Again, it only needs to run a browser, you can do the work in OS X.
Agreed. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
cW
cshanks
01-05-2005, 11:18 PM
I've seen this thing. It looks amazing if you wanna learn animation.
andy_maxman
01-06-2005, 03:56 AM
what do you mean you have seen this thing? how did you manage to mate?
cshanks
01-06-2005, 05:18 AM
My animation instructor had something on it. How he came about it, I don't know. It looked really extensive though.
linen_umbrella
01-06-2005, 08:38 AM
Does anyone know if we have to pay the $2,000 all at once? Or at the begining or the end of the quarter??
andy_maxman
01-06-2005, 08:49 AM
beginning of each class
Marty15
01-06-2005, 12:10 PM
This is something i've been insanely excited about since it was announced, but the last newsletter has filled me with fear.
Upon acceptace, student's will need to provide proof of a high school diploma or GED equivelant (a photo copy via mail or a signed request transcript approval form). College transcripts will suffice.
I was taught at home so don't have anything like that - Not that i think we have it here in the UK anyway. I have a GCSE in a language, does anybody know if that would that count?
Upon acceptace, student's will need to provide proof of a high school diploma or GED equivelant (a photo copy via mail or a signed request transcript approval form). College transcripts will suffice.
I was taught at home so don't have anything like that - Not that i think we have it here in the UK anyway. I have a GCSE in a language, does anybody know if that would that count?
Bentagon
01-06-2005, 12:16 PM
Quote:
Alexandrecollac: will I need to submit a copy of my high school degree in english???, don´t know how much time i´ll spend to get a copy in english, don´t know even if i can get one.
Rikki: I don't think I have anything suitable to show my high school qualifications (I'm from the UK) but I do have my degree scroll. Does it mean proof of high school (or higher) qualification, or must it be high school?
The Key word in the newsletter is "equivelant." If you are 17 and have this equivelant then that is fine. If it is in another language that is fine. If you have gone to a little bit of college and can show some kind of transcripts that is fine, too. The reason is that we have to show the state that our students have the "ability to benefit" from our program. If we take someone that is 15 years old and they graduate from AnimationMentor.com when they are 16 chances are they are not going to be able to get a job, move accoss the country and sign a lease on a rental, along with the other many "legal" concerns that may come up. This is not our rule but is something we have to abide by. That was posted by BOOM himself. If you've done exams/finals of some sort at a bureau of state, you should have some sort of degree.
- Bentagon
Alexandrecollac: will I need to submit a copy of my high school degree in english???, don´t know how much time i´ll spend to get a copy in english, don´t know even if i can get one.
Rikki: I don't think I have anything suitable to show my high school qualifications (I'm from the UK) but I do have my degree scroll. Does it mean proof of high school (or higher) qualification, or must it be high school?
The Key word in the newsletter is "equivelant." If you are 17 and have this equivelant then that is fine. If it is in another language that is fine. If you have gone to a little bit of college and can show some kind of transcripts that is fine, too. The reason is that we have to show the state that our students have the "ability to benefit" from our program. If we take someone that is 15 years old and they graduate from AnimationMentor.com when they are 16 chances are they are not going to be able to get a job, move accoss the country and sign a lease on a rental, along with the other many "legal" concerns that may come up. This is not our rule but is something we have to abide by. That was posted by BOOM himself. If you've done exams/finals of some sort at a bureau of state, you should have some sort of degree.
- Bentagon
Opelfruits
01-06-2005, 01:21 PM
marty - i dont really know what the equivalent to an american high school diploma would be exactly but i would think it would be more than one gcse. i would think it would be more like, at least 5 cgse's grade c or higher, this is what you would need to get into college anyway.
i have missed about 50 pages of this thread, i think this is going to be an all nighter.
i have missed about 50 pages of this thread, i think this is going to be an all nighter.
RayenD
01-06-2005, 01:48 PM
high school education or its equivalent, defined as successful completion of a 12-year course of elementary and secondary education;
This is how US gogverment defines high school, hope it helps.
This is how US gogverment defines high school, hope it helps.
alexandrecollac
01-06-2005, 07:16 PM
January, 5th - another day waiting in front of the computer, damn i´m on vacations.
Marty15
01-06-2005, 07:38 PM
Thanks for the help guys :thumbsup:
Magenta_
01-06-2005, 08:05 PM
Hi guys!
I wonder what type of payment options besides that of credit card they are going to offer in Animationmentor. com. Will students be able to do a warehouse(deposit) to a bank account addressed to the school?, this one would be very usefull information for some of us,international students, since this way we will be able to buy dollars in the foreign exchange offices instead of buying them to the banks where they are more expensive (at least this is how it is here). i´m sure bobby will answer soon, thanks !
I wonder what type of payment options besides that of credit card they are going to offer in Animationmentor. com. Will students be able to do a warehouse(deposit) to a bank account addressed to the school?, this one would be very usefull information for some of us,international students, since this way we will be able to buy dollars in the foreign exchange offices instead of buying them to the banks where they are more expensive (at least this is how it is here). i´m sure bobby will answer soon, thanks !
olioli
01-06-2005, 09:22 PM
Does anyone know if we have to pay the $2,000 all at once? Or at the begining or the end of the quarter??
so bobby, I'm assuming no payment plan...or :shrug:
so bobby, I'm assuming no payment plan...or :shrug:
Bentagon
01-06-2005, 10:27 PM
2. What type of payment options will be available?
Registering for classes at AnimationMentor.com will require registration for one class at a time. We do not allow students to sign up for the full course all at once. This allows our student the ability to see if they like the learning environment. We will not be offering "student aid" for our students at this time, but we are working on it (it takes at least 2 years of being a fully operational school before we can be considered for this type of program). We will accept all major credit cards. First: We will only be accepting major credit cards on the outset. In time we will add where we feel necessary. But a dozen or so pages later: As for Payment we will also accept Check, money orders etc. I will send a newsletter soon with some of the new "legal" requirements that are involved. It's actually pretty mellow stuff and something people can at least start preparing for ahead of time. Talk to you soon, and thanks for having faith in us.
From unofficial FAQ: Do we have to pay up front?
We're also working this out. We're looking into options for our students. We'll keep you updated as we get these issues ironed out.
...So I'm guessing that last thing will be addressed in the catalogue.
Hope that helps you guys...
- Bentagon
Registering for classes at AnimationMentor.com will require registration for one class at a time. We do not allow students to sign up for the full course all at once. This allows our student the ability to see if they like the learning environment. We will not be offering "student aid" for our students at this time, but we are working on it (it takes at least 2 years of being a fully operational school before we can be considered for this type of program). We will accept all major credit cards. First: We will only be accepting major credit cards on the outset. In time we will add where we feel necessary. But a dozen or so pages later: As for Payment we will also accept Check, money orders etc. I will send a newsletter soon with some of the new "legal" requirements that are involved. It's actually pretty mellow stuff and something people can at least start preparing for ahead of time. Talk to you soon, and thanks for having faith in us.
From unofficial FAQ: Do we have to pay up front?
We're also working this out. We're looking into options for our students. We'll keep you updated as we get these issues ironed out.
...So I'm guessing that last thing will be addressed in the catalogue.
Hope that helps you guys...
- Bentagon
animboom
01-06-2005, 10:55 PM
Hey, Folks. Bobby Beck here from AnimationMentor.com. I wanted to take a moment to say a few things.
Due to the nature of our project things continue to grow and change. So to help stop some of the confusion we will limit posts to mainly our newsletter. We don't want to offer contradicting information with payment options and what not. Everything will be explained in detail as soon as state permission is granted. In the meantime thanks for your continued support. :)
-BOOM
Due to the nature of our project things continue to grow and change. So to help stop some of the confusion we will limit posts to mainly our newsletter. We don't want to offer contradicting information with payment options and what not. Everything will be explained in detail as soon as state permission is granted. In the meantime thanks for your continued support. :)
-BOOM
PixelTales
01-06-2005, 11:03 PM
Thanks for the update Bobby. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to the new newsletter. :buttrock:
alexandrecollac
01-06-2005, 11:20 PM
Plz don´t onpen the inscriptions on the weekends, i need some time to relax, i would really appreciate, tnx
PixelTales
01-07-2005, 12:08 AM
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The website
JourneyEd.com (http://www.journeyed.com/)
or direct links to the software
Maya 6 Complete Student Version Bundle Win (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=18016473)
Maya 6 Complete Student Version Bundle Mac (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=18026471)
Maya 6 Unlimited Student Version Bundle Win (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=18036473)
Maya 6 Unlimited Student Version Bundle Mac (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=18046471)
Maya 6 Student Photoshop CS student and Book Bundle Win (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=35632173)
Maya 6 Student Photoshop CS student and Book Bundle Mac (http://www.journeyed.com/itemDetail.asp?T1=35492171)
DigitalConfushun
01-07-2005, 03:40 PM
I looked into it. It is definetly a great school for animators, but I am an environment artist. The adminisration said it does not dive into such subjects.
philippeduvin
01-07-2005, 04:25 PM
Hey guys :)
Try to change my mind and stop stressing about AM arrival :)
I just bought a french magazine in which we can find a great article about the way of life at Pixar...it says that no matter what the animator seniority is, an animator at Pixar got 2000 bucks a month... do you think that's true ?
Try to change my mind and stop stressing about AM arrival :)
I just bought a french magazine in which we can find a great article about the way of life at Pixar...it says that no matter what the animator seniority is, an animator at Pixar got 2000 bucks a month... do you think that's true ?
powerwave3d
01-07-2005, 04:35 PM
I just bought a french magazine in which we can find a great article about the way of life at Pixar...it says that no matter what the animator seniority is, an animator at Pixar got 2000 bucks a month... do you think that's true ?
I'm not 100% sure, but I would think they get paid a lot more than that. Simply from a cost of living standpoint alone.
I'm not 100% sure, but I would think they get paid a lot more than that. Simply from a cost of living standpoint alone.
philippeduvin
01-07-2005, 04:36 PM
That what i was thinking...2000 bucks to live in SF, it's not a lot... :)
agreenster
01-07-2005, 04:43 PM
I just bought a french magazine in which we can find a great article about the way of life at Pixar...it says that no matter what the animator seniority is, an animator at Pixar got 2000 bucks a month... do you think that's true ?
No way. Maybe part time. That's only 24k a year. Maybe more like 2k a WEEK.
I recently moved to the bay area (Emeryville, actually), and 2k is one month's rent for a good 2 bedroom. You can go cheaper, depending on location and less amenities. (you can also go more. waaay more) That's one thing I have really learned out here---stuff is expensive, but you're in the center of it--one of the more expensive places to live anywhere.
No way. Maybe part time. That's only 24k a year. Maybe more like 2k a WEEK.
I recently moved to the bay area (Emeryville, actually), and 2k is one month's rent for a good 2 bedroom. You can go cheaper, depending on location and less amenities. (you can also go more. waaay more) That's one thing I have really learned out here---stuff is expensive, but you're in the center of it--one of the more expensive places to live anywhere.
ArneK
01-07-2005, 06:31 PM
Bobby, as Mac users now have to wait until everything is Mac compatible, have you tested AM using Virtual PC on Mac OSX? I'd be really happy if it works :)
Bentagon
01-08-2005, 12:11 PM
Yeah, 2k a month is by far not enough. On the "Ask The Animation Mentor" feature on www.cgw.com (http://www.cgw.com), shawn talks that he thinks general entrylevel animators get 50k a year. But the statement remains true, I guess... if they get 6k, or 8k, or 1235k a month, they're still getting 2k, right ;) ? They're probably not allowed to talk about their salary, but I guess almost every animator who's got a job gets 2k a month :), at least in the states.
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
alexandrecollac
01-10-2005, 05:44 PM
10 th, January, today we were suppose to start the Animation Mentor course:sad: .....
when it is going to start???:banghead:
when it is going to start???:banghead:
mike33
01-10-2005, 06:25 PM
This is just an FYI.
With AM being out of reach for me money wise I was wondering if other education
options were available when a friend of mine sent me this link:
http://www.boston.com:80/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/01/02/school_for_sketchers (http://www.mac.com//redirect/http://www.boston.com:80/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/01/02/school_for_sketchers)
This is the schools website:
http://www.cartoonstudies.org/
And of course their price is double at $28,000 [so much for an alternative] and as someone wrote in the article,
don't expect to make a living off of being a cartoonist...
Anyway... it's a cool looking school and worth a look.
Cheers,
Mike
With AM being out of reach for me money wise I was wondering if other education
options were available when a friend of mine sent me this link:
http://www.boston.com:80/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/01/02/school_for_sketchers (http://www.mac.com//redirect/http://www.boston.com:80/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/01/02/school_for_sketchers)
This is the schools website:
http://www.cartoonstudies.org/
And of course their price is double at $28,000 [so much for an alternative] and as someone wrote in the article,
don't expect to make a living off of being a cartoonist...
Anyway... it's a cool looking school and worth a look.
Cheers,
Mike
powerwave3d
01-10-2005, 06:29 PM
Forgive me if this has already been answered. I'm unable to read through this entire thread at the moment.
1.) I'm confused on if AM is actually going to be accredited or not? If so, which accreditation board (or whatever) will it be accredited through?
This is very important to myself, because I'm looking at work to flip the cost of AM and if it's "officially" accredited, they will with minimal questions asked.
2.) Now, if it's not accredited, have you guys by any chance written up a good summary/explaination that others in my situation (working for employers that will pay for unaccredited training if an excellent description and reason for taking it is presented to them) can take, maybe massage a little and present it to our upper management for approval.
3.) Which classes have to be taken to attain the diploma? All 6? To be honest, the short films one would probably be the classes that my employer look at and right away say "no" to the entire idea. Because, the way it's worded right now, it's really geared to making a portfolio and finding another job so to speak. Which isn't my intentions actually.
Thanks,
Karl
1.) I'm confused on if AM is actually going to be accredited or not? If so, which accreditation board (or whatever) will it be accredited through?
This is very important to myself, because I'm looking at work to flip the cost of AM and if it's "officially" accredited, they will with minimal questions asked.
2.) Now, if it's not accredited, have you guys by any chance written up a good summary/explaination that others in my situation (working for employers that will pay for unaccredited training if an excellent description and reason for taking it is presented to them) can take, maybe massage a little and present it to our upper management for approval.
3.) Which classes have to be taken to attain the diploma? All 6? To be honest, the short films one would probably be the classes that my employer look at and right away say "no" to the entire idea. Because, the way it's worded right now, it's really geared to making a portfolio and finding another job so to speak. Which isn't my intentions actually.
Thanks,
Karl
PixelTales
01-10-2005, 07:40 PM
Due to the nature of our project things continue to grow and change. So to help stop some of the confusion we will limit posts to mainly our newsletter. We don't want to offer contradicting information with payment options and what not. Everything will be explained in detail as soon as state permission is granted. In the meantime thanks for your continued support. :)
-BOOM
Bobby, I know you said you wanted to answer most questions in the next newsletter. I thought I'd ask this one anyway, since it's not exactly something you would answer in the next newsletter. Hopefully If you have the time you can answer.
I know that you guys are working really hard, and doing everything you can to get the program smoothed out and ready for the start date, as well as working on getting the approval from the California Bureau. It appears that your team has done everything it can in the approval process, to this point, and the ball is in the Cal. Bureau's court to do the final steps. I was wondering if there is anything that we, the potential students, can do to help speed along this part of the approval process. Something like writing letters to the Cal. Bureau's contact person to help them realise the need and the urgentcy for a progect like AM to be started right away. Kind of a gentle nudge to help them get their butts in gear.
I would be happy to write a letter if I knew it would help, and who to write to. I'm sure that many of the other potential students feel the same way.
-BOOM
Bobby, I know you said you wanted to answer most questions in the next newsletter. I thought I'd ask this one anyway, since it's not exactly something you would answer in the next newsletter. Hopefully If you have the time you can answer.
I know that you guys are working really hard, and doing everything you can to get the program smoothed out and ready for the start date, as well as working on getting the approval from the California Bureau. It appears that your team has done everything it can in the approval process, to this point, and the ball is in the Cal. Bureau's court to do the final steps. I was wondering if there is anything that we, the potential students, can do to help speed along this part of the approval process. Something like writing letters to the Cal. Bureau's contact person to help them realise the need and the urgentcy for a progect like AM to be started right away. Kind of a gentle nudge to help them get their butts in gear.
I would be happy to write a letter if I knew it would help, and who to write to. I'm sure that many of the other potential students feel the same way.
kirko
01-10-2005, 09:12 PM
I've also been keeping an eye on the accreditation issue. I don't think AM will be accredited at first. They may be looking into accreditation, but that takes several years. Right now, they're waiting for the license to operate in California. I found this helpful explanation of accreditation at some university's site:
In the United States, institutions don't get accredited before they start operations. The accreditation process (http://www.neasc.org/cihe/ciheacc.htm) in the United States demands that the institution must already be in operation. Licensing and state supervision is what permits them to be in operation. Accreditation is the final (and a continuing) process that generally implies an endorsement of the educational institution or its programs by a recognized body after a lengthy and exhaustive review running into several years.
In addition to allowing for transferable credits, accreditation apparently would also make students eligible for federal grants and scholarships.
Kirk
In the United States, institutions don't get accredited before they start operations. The accreditation process (http://www.neasc.org/cihe/ciheacc.htm) in the United States demands that the institution must already be in operation. Licensing and state supervision is what permits them to be in operation. Accreditation is the final (and a continuing) process that generally implies an endorsement of the educational institution or its programs by a recognized body after a lengthy and exhaustive review running into several years.
In addition to allowing for transferable credits, accreditation apparently would also make students eligible for federal grants and scholarships.
Kirk
linen_umbrella
01-10-2005, 11:50 PM
Just watch the newsletter people, the more everyone plays guessing games the more confusing it is for people trying to find out about the program. The only real information about accreditation or anything else should be from the animationmentor.com newsletter and the latest one is here: http://www.animationmentor.com/newsletter/AMonlineNewsletter_3_5.html and you can subscribe to it here: http://www.animationmentor.com
iNFERNiS
01-11-2005, 12:40 AM
hmm, great concept. Must be cool to learn from the best. Something like finding the holy grail :D
Bentagon, if you're in, let me know how things are going there (fellow belgian ;))
Bentagon, if you're in, let me know how things are going there (fellow belgian ;))
kirko
01-11-2005, 02:38 AM
Sorry, linen_umbrella, I definitely didn't want to confuse anyone. Sometimes I just can't contain myself. In a few days (I hope I hope), we'll have all the answers.
dimension10
01-11-2005, 11:06 AM
Echo Echo Echo...
Naisa Evoli
01-12-2005, 05:36 AM
Wow, I really hope this isn’t to overly expensive. I mean, i'l do what i have to do, but I’m already in computer animation school now. The thing is, this school teaches everything in a 14 month course (very very intense course mind you, so we learn a lot). I am glad I’m going here so i can get a good knowledge of Maya and everything in CG, from compositing, to texture, lighting, modeling, animation etc. But what i really want to do is character animation, so if this isn’t to overly priced, i would love to hone my animation skills after getting the overview after i graduate from my current school. I cant wait till we can see some pricing info on this. (I’m already in debt enough from my current school..lol)
philippeduvin
01-12-2005, 11:47 AM
Hey guys...my essay is already 3 books long...i even planned to sell it online for 2000 bucks :)
Got some news from the Bureau ?
Got some news from the Bureau ?
Bentagon
01-12-2005, 01:14 PM
Wow, I really hope this isn’t to overly expensive. I mean, i'l do what i have to do, but I’m already in computer animation school now. The thing is, this school teaches everything in a 14 month course (very very intense course mind you, so we learn a lot). I am glad I’m going here so i can get a good knowledge of Maya and everything in CG, from compositing, to texture, lighting, modeling, animation etc. But what i really want to do is character animation, so if this isn’t to overly priced, i would love to hone my animation skills after getting the overview after i graduate from my current school. I cant wait till we can see some pricing info on this. (I’m already in debt enough from my current school..lol)The prices have already been announced a while ago.
http://www.cgnetworks.com/story.php?story_id=2603
The anticipation is killing me! I really want to get to know all the news and more info on the study "environment", etc :bounce::bounce:
- Bentagon
http://www.cgnetworks.com/story.php?story_id=2603
The anticipation is killing me! I really want to get to know all the news and more info on the study "environment", etc :bounce::bounce:
- Bentagon
SheepFactory
01-12-2005, 04:23 PM
Excuse me if this was posted before , but I realized now there is a phone number you can call for your General AM questions!
check it out:
1. January's here... where is AnimationMentor.com?
We have experienced obvious delays in our launch date. We must await approval from the State of California before we can open our doors. At this time it is hard to say exactly when the launch date will be, but we suspect it will be very soon. You will be the first to hear the news in the next newsletter so stay tuned!
For general questions you can call the office at: 510-809-1177
check it out:
1. January's here... where is AnimationMentor.com?
We have experienced obvious delays in our launch date. We must await approval from the State of California before we can open our doors. At this time it is hard to say exactly when the launch date will be, but we suspect it will be very soon. You will be the first to hear the news in the next newsletter so stay tuned!
For general questions you can call the office at: 510-809-1177
agreenster
01-12-2005, 04:30 PM
Oh god. I bet they get a million calls a day
Mooncalf
01-12-2005, 04:59 PM
Oh god. I bet they get a million calls a day
If they didn't before, they will now. :)
If they didn't before, they will now. :)
vanlicht
01-12-2005, 07:04 PM
Yeah and the Helpdesk is really nice and helpful with great patience. Lovely.:thumbsup:
Bentagon
01-12-2005, 07:43 PM
Problem is it's faar from cheap to make a call to the US... My parents just will not want to do that if we can mail/pm.
Btw, any updates on the T-shirts?
- Bentagon
Btw, any updates on the T-shirts?
- Bentagon
Naisa Evoli
01-13-2005, 12:04 PM
The prices have already been announced a while ago.
http://www.cgnetworks.com/story.php?story_id=2603
The anticipation is killing me! I really want to get to know all the news and more info on the study "environment", etc :bounce::bounce:
- Bentagon
HEY! Thank you so much Bentagon^^. I guess i missed this post (sorry alot to catch up on in this thread..lol..i'm new to the boards ; ;) But thanx alot for the link^^.
http://www.cgnetworks.com/story.php?story_id=2603
The anticipation is killing me! I really want to get to know all the news and more info on the study "environment", etc :bounce::bounce:
- Bentagon
HEY! Thank you so much Bentagon^^. I guess i missed this post (sorry alot to catch up on in this thread..lol..i'm new to the boards ; ;) But thanx alot for the link^^.
RickJohnston
01-13-2005, 03:41 PM
can't wait looks good, hope there are enugh spaces available to everyone!
alexandrecollac
01-14-2005, 05:03 PM
Hey Bobby, any news from the Bureau???
dimension10
01-14-2005, 06:24 PM
At this point is the first session of AM still anticipated for January?
stewartjones
01-14-2005, 07:42 PM
At this point is the first session of AM still anticipated for January?
I hope so!
Any news AM guys?! :shrug:
I hope so!
Any news AM guys?! :shrug:
Afr_CG
01-15-2005, 01:03 PM
I also hope this can still be done this January. I can't wait to read the great news :) ...soon hopefully.
omni
01-15-2005, 02:02 PM
Cant wait. Gonna be so much fun to start this education!
RickJohnston
01-16-2005, 10:39 AM
Man I wont be able to start till March, I hope it starts then! Woo Hoo!
Tom N.
01-16-2005, 03:24 PM
Man I wont be able to start till March, I hope it starts then! Woo Hoo!
phllllttt!!
phllllttt!!
Helen Parr
01-18-2005, 03:23 PM
Hi Everyone!
I'm new to this forum. Wow!! There are so many people willing to join AnimationMentor. I just discovered it today. I read all the details about AnimationMentor and I have to say, it's the perfect online school to start my animating career. As a foreign student, this online school is for everyone around the world. Note that I am a newbie and have not done animation yet.
Anyway, hope the class starts as soon as possible. Can't wait to begin.
Hope to meet all of you there.
I'm new to this forum. Wow!! There are so many people willing to join AnimationMentor. I just discovered it today. I read all the details about AnimationMentor and I have to say, it's the perfect online school to start my animating career. As a foreign student, this online school is for everyone around the world. Note that I am a newbie and have not done animation yet.
Anyway, hope the class starts as soon as possible. Can't wait to begin.
Hope to meet all of you there.
andy_maxman
01-19-2005, 03:14 AM
why?!! why?! why do i get jitters when i visit this thread??
mgarward
01-19-2005, 12:54 PM
why?!! why?! why do i get jitters when i visit this thread??
Maybe because there's someone new and interested in am.com every time you read it? Like me?:D
Maybe because there's someone new and interested in am.com every time you read it? Like me?:D
clockwerkz
01-19-2005, 03:12 PM
The trick to this thread is to take note on what page the last posting was on everytime you see it. Then, if you're one of the many who regularly checks, when you look at the thread and see that it's jumped by 5 pages, then you know there's something new. :)
cW
cW
stewartjones
01-19-2005, 03:17 PM
5 PAGES? :eek:
I check everytime there is a new post, I'm addicted to this thread!!! :D
I check everytime there is a new post, I'm addicted to this thread!!! :D
Bentagon
01-19-2005, 03:46 PM
same here! I'm subscribed to this thread, and it notifies me whenever there's a reply, but even when I haven't got a mail, I feel a strong urge to look if there's something new!
I also visit animationmentor.com once in a while, just because I might receive the newsletter a bit later due to server stuff, and maybe the site could've already been updated in the meanwhile:D
- Bentagon
I also visit animationmentor.com once in a while, just because I might receive the newsletter a bit later due to server stuff, and maybe the site could've already been updated in the meanwhile:D
- Bentagon
mgarward
01-19-2005, 04:27 PM
It's like an addiction, isn't it? :twisted:
clockwerkz
01-19-2005, 04:29 PM
No, no.. I still check it several times a day anyways.. I just mean when you load it up and see you're behind 5 or 6 pages, then something new just popped up from the AM folks. :-)
cW
cW
stewartjones
01-19-2005, 10:28 PM
same here! I'm subscribed to this thread, and it notifies me whenever there's a reply, but even when I haven't got a mail, I feel a strong urge to look if there's something new!
I also visit animationmentor.com once in a while, just because I might receive the newsletter a bit later due to server stuff, and maybe the site could've already been updated in the meanwhile:D
- Bentagon
Oh how we are the same!!! :buttrock:
We need some news for sure, I have been waiting for this for SO long! (As we all have)
I also visit animationmentor.com once in a while, just because I might receive the newsletter a bit later due to server stuff, and maybe the site could've already been updated in the meanwhile:D
- Bentagon
Oh how we are the same!!! :buttrock:
We need some news for sure, I have been waiting for this for SO long! (As we all have)
alexandrecollac
01-19-2005, 10:34 PM
Yeah, this is anoyng me, they didn´t say any word for a while, it´s very frustating waiting for so long without any info, most of us are waiting since june, and we had some postponement, i would like to know for how long the wait will last.:sad:
mmkelly011881
01-19-2005, 11:22 PM
hehe.. i went high tech to keep myself sane
-originally have the newsletter sent to my outlook email address
-set up a rule that searches the email and subject for "Newsletter" or "Animation"
-if either of those words occur it forwards it to a gmail account that i've set up specifically for this
-set up gmail notifier on my taskbar that alerts me whenever there is a new email at my gmail account :)
tested it out.. works like a charm
only problem is that im not allowed to install gmail notifier at work so i have to check the account manually
of course.. still i check this thread whenever i see a new post... ala 6-12 times a day
-originally have the newsletter sent to my outlook email address
-set up a rule that searches the email and subject for "Newsletter" or "Animation"
-if either of those words occur it forwards it to a gmail account that i've set up specifically for this
-set up gmail notifier on my taskbar that alerts me whenever there is a new email at my gmail account :)
tested it out.. works like a charm
only problem is that im not allowed to install gmail notifier at work so i have to check the account manually
of course.. still i check this thread whenever i see a new post... ala 6-12 times a day
agreenster
01-20-2005, 12:26 AM
If only we spent that much time animating and reading rigging tutorials...
He hee hee ;)
He hee hee ;)
mmkelly011881
01-20-2005, 01:58 AM
hehe.. i have 8 hours of work at my "real" job to try and figure this stuff out and check the threads... try to stay off after hours except for Animation Students Forum (http://animationgroup.proboards30.com/)
andy_maxman
01-20-2005, 06:12 AM
If only we spent that much time animating and reading rigging tutorials...
agreed 100%....
now let us see you share your learning resources.........as wicked as i can i get.....but hey!! a little help doesnt hurt.....;-)
how is your new job/place doing mate...?
cheers!!
agreed 100%....
now let us see you share your learning resources.........as wicked as i can i get.....but hey!! a little help doesnt hurt.....;-)
how is your new job/place doing mate...?
cheers!!
Bughunter1989
01-20-2005, 06:58 PM
HI, i am also intrested in animation and want to leard it. I am an absolute noob and how can i join AM. I've visited the link http://www.animationmentor.com/hasflash.html but there is no formular, where i can join or any information about joining AM.
Bentagon
01-20-2005, 07:07 PM
You can't join AM yet. Subscribe to the newsletter and you'll get the info for registration in the next few weeks.
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
Bughunter1989
01-20-2005, 07:15 PM
Thanks, Bentagon
AjaBogdanoff
01-20-2005, 09:57 PM
Man, you know, when the prices came out in December, I was sure I wasn't going to be able to afford this class. We're buying a house, I'm starting a company, I hate my job and want to quit... $2,500 seemed unreachable.
In a way, I'm kind of glad enrollment has been delayed this long... it's given me time to come to my senses. ;) If I can get in to this program, I will find the money, whether I have to borrow it from my husband or the bank or sell a kidney or something. This is a life-changing kind of opportunity, and man, I am ready for a life change. :)
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
In a way, I'm kind of glad enrollment has been delayed this long... it's given me time to come to my senses. ;) If I can get in to this program, I will find the money, whether I have to borrow it from my husband or the bank or sell a kidney or something. This is a life-changing kind of opportunity, and man, I am ready for a life change. :)
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
Phearielord
01-20-2005, 10:39 PM
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
lol!!
i like your way of thinking!!
i think that's an excellent attitude......i might just adopt it! :D
lol!!
i like your way of thinking!!
i think that's an excellent attitude......i might just adopt it! :D
ArbitraryDesign
01-22-2005, 03:38 PM
If I can get in to this program, I will find the money, whether I have to borrow it from my husband or the bank or sell a kidney or something. This is a life-changing kind of opportunity, and man, I am ready for a life change. :)
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
Maybe you could borrow a kidney from your husband and sell it :)
I feel the same way about AnimationMentor. Call it a gut feeling, but I suspect this will be something truly ground-breaking.
It wouldn't surprise me if this becomes the model for future, unrelated fields of study.
For my part, I have "ramped up" my sculpture sales efforts so I can pay for AM. (I'm a sculptor.)
I'm even considering buying a plaid polyester suit. It seems to work so well for used car salesmen :)
In addition, I am spending my free time in a way that I hope will help prepare me for the classes when they become available: I'm learning Maya PLE.
As Maya is the software that AM will be using for the class, this seems the single most proactive use of my time. The more comfortable I am with the interface, the less time I will have to waste looking for icons and functions... and the more time I have for animating.
For those of you who are serious about AM, and you do not currently use Maya, I would recommend spending a little preparatory effort in getting to know the interface, hot box, hypergraph, etc.
If you don't have Maya, you can download the free PLE trial here: http://www.alias.com/eng/products-services/maya/maya_ple/get_maya_ple.shtml
Cheers!
Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!
Maybe you could borrow a kidney from your husband and sell it :)
I feel the same way about AnimationMentor. Call it a gut feeling, but I suspect this will be something truly ground-breaking.
It wouldn't surprise me if this becomes the model for future, unrelated fields of study.
For my part, I have "ramped up" my sculpture sales efforts so I can pay for AM. (I'm a sculptor.)
I'm even considering buying a plaid polyester suit. It seems to work so well for used car salesmen :)
In addition, I am spending my free time in a way that I hope will help prepare me for the classes when they become available: I'm learning Maya PLE.
As Maya is the software that AM will be using for the class, this seems the single most proactive use of my time. The more comfortable I am with the interface, the less time I will have to waste looking for icons and functions... and the more time I have for animating.
For those of you who are serious about AM, and you do not currently use Maya, I would recommend spending a little preparatory effort in getting to know the interface, hot box, hypergraph, etc.
If you don't have Maya, you can download the free PLE trial here: http://www.alias.com/eng/products-services/maya/maya_ple/get_maya_ple.shtml
Cheers!
stewartjones
01-22-2005, 03:52 PM
For those of you who are serious about AM, and you do not currently use Maya, I would recommend spending a little preparatory effort in getting to know the interface, hot box, hypergraph, etc.Cheers!
Agreed!:thumbsup:
For the times that you are away from the computer, learning animation principles would be a push in the right direction too!
Agreed!:thumbsup:
For the times that you are away from the computer, learning animation principles would be a push in the right direction too!
ArbitraryDesign
01-22-2005, 03:59 PM
Agreed!:thumbsup:
For the times that you are away from the computer, learning animation principles would be a push in the right direction too!
Agreed :)
And for those new to Maya, and wanting to get a handle on that huge (and somehwat intimidating) interface, check out the free video tutorials at 3DBuzz.com and digital_tutors.com .
For the times that you are away from the computer, learning animation principles would be a push in the right direction too!
Agreed :)
And for those new to Maya, and wanting to get a handle on that huge (and somehwat intimidating) interface, check out the free video tutorials at 3DBuzz.com and digital_tutors.com .
Rabid pitbull
01-22-2005, 08:03 PM
Maya is not the only tool for the job here, many people will choose other avenues. It has already be said that maya will not be of major focus rather animation principles. Beefing up on your tools animation workflow is highly advisable though.
Sniffet
01-23-2005, 09:27 AM
I hope Animationmentors own "maya guide" is all that I need (learning animation tools only). My head is on the verge to explode learning all the hotkeys in all the applications Im currently using. And all I know is that maya is one piece of software, with many ways to attack something. Hopefully I will be able to do most stuff in messiah:studio (love it)..
Anyways, I´ve always thought most larger facilities (pixar, bluesky etc) used proprietary software.
Well, I hope to see a launch soon though.. I´ve been working like crazy (and will continue, until the classes start) last couple of months, saving up, so I can work at a utterly slower temp once getting into AM and dedicate my time to animation only.
/Regards Peter K
Anyways, I´ve always thought most larger facilities (pixar, bluesky etc) used proprietary software.
Well, I hope to see a launch soon though.. I´ve been working like crazy (and will continue, until the classes start) last couple of months, saving up, so I can work at a utterly slower temp once getting into AM and dedicate my time to animation only.
/Regards Peter K
ArbitraryDesign
01-23-2005, 10:40 AM
Maya is not the only tool for the job here, many people will choose other avenues. It has already be said that maya will not be of major focus rather animation principles. Beefing up on your tools animation workflow is highly advisable though.
I was not suggesting that Maya is the only focus, quite the opposite.
It is stated clearly in the FAQ that the software is NOT the focus of the class... but Maya is the software that will be used for the class demonstrations, etc.
So it seems a smart move to become familiar with this app. BEFORE beginning the class, so you will be up-to-speed when the class starts.
Whether you usually use Messiah, Motionbuilder, Max... or pencil and paper... it still seeems like a good idea to know the application that will be used for instruction in the AM classes.
I was not suggesting that Maya is the only focus, quite the opposite.
It is stated clearly in the FAQ that the software is NOT the focus of the class... but Maya is the software that will be used for the class demonstrations, etc.
So it seems a smart move to become familiar with this app. BEFORE beginning the class, so you will be up-to-speed when the class starts.
Whether you usually use Messiah, Motionbuilder, Max... or pencil and paper... it still seeems like a good idea to know the application that will be used for instruction in the AM classes.
mikefeil
01-23-2005, 01:55 PM
one place to check out is www.digital-tutors.com (http://www.digital-tutors.com/). They have some GREAT video tutes there. and FREE!!!
otherwise I would be happy to make some little lessons on animating in maya. Since thats all we probably will need to know, and getting around in it...easy peasy.
:)
otherwise I would be happy to make some little lessons on animating in maya. Since thats all we probably will need to know, and getting around in it...easy peasy.
:)
Ohem
01-23-2005, 05:30 PM
Hi! I'm new here and i want to learn 3D animation och modelling. And with this, AnimationMentor.com got my interest, but the problem remains, where do i sign up?
Bentagon
01-23-2005, 06:22 PM
You can't just yet. But are you really sure you want to do this? You want to learn animation or modelling, but are you really at a point where you can spend $12,000 on learning animation. It doesn't sound like that... even the doubt between modelling and animation seems to indicate you're not sure yet what you want to do.
I might be wrong though, since I'm basing this on two lines of text ;)
- Bentagon
I might be wrong though, since I'm basing this on two lines of text ;)
- Bentagon
Ohem
01-23-2005, 07:42 PM
It depends what the price of the school is, i have tested the software (Maya, Max, XSI, LightWave etc...) and i find Softimage XSI very comfortable and easy. Then i just have to buy the software before the school begins.
The reason i want to learn Modelling and Animation is that i now got taste for computer graphics (Rendering, 2D) and i have an idea that i have brood in many years and i want to fullfil the idea through Animation/CG.
The reason i want to learn Modelling and Animation is that i now got taste for computer graphics (Rendering, 2D) and i have an idea that i have brood in many years and i want to fullfil the idea through Animation/CG.
Bentagon
01-23-2005, 09:10 PM
Well, AM Online costs $2,000 for every 3 month course, or $2,500 for the same course spread out over 6 months. Mind you, it doesn't teach you any modelling. Good luck with the project!
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
philippeduvin
01-24-2005, 08:07 AM
waw....24th january and no news yet from our guys....I suggest a HUGE donation of Kit kat for Mister BOOM, some paella for Carlos and may be a little Yoda for Shawn. It's sound like corruption to speed up the process but I know that's not their fault :) it's just to make some fun and to not fall into a big nervous breakdown :scream:
cheers guys :)
cheers guys :)
Ohem
01-24-2005, 08:08 AM
Well, AM Online costs $2,000 for every 3 month course, or $2,500 for the same course spread out over 6 months. Mind you, it doesn't teach you any modelling. Good luck with the project!
- Bentagon
Dosen't sound cheap, not too expensive either.
They don't teach me any modelling? I think i missunderstood you there, in AM's trailer they mentioned it dosen't matter if i have no experience or mastering any type of the modelling/animation software. Too animate, i need modells and with AM's help i can do that, right?
Please, correct me!
- Bentagon
Dosen't sound cheap, not too expensive either.
They don't teach me any modelling? I think i missunderstood you there, in AM's trailer they mentioned it dosen't matter if i have no experience or mastering any type of the modelling/animation software. Too animate, i need modells and with AM's help i can do that, right?
Please, correct me!
textureyes
01-24-2005, 08:14 AM
i expect they will provide you with little Animation Mentor characters that are universal to all the students. Then everyone is on the same level.
So you wont learn modeling, but you will have a model to play with
waiting... waiting... waiting.....
whats the bets.... Jan still?
or feb.... or even march....
can any one else wait that long... not that we have a choice
So you wont learn modeling, but you will have a model to play with
waiting... waiting... waiting.....
whats the bets.... Jan still?
or feb.... or even march....
can any one else wait that long... not that we have a choice
supergrover
01-24-2005, 09:01 AM
Like many I've been watching and waiting for months now. I am aware of recent developments and how the AM guys have had to make changes to suit the red tapers in the bureau. However I find it a bit worrying that the AM people have stopped answering posts on this forum. January is nearly past now and I for one would like to have some idea of when ( if at all ) this school is going to open it's doors. I'm suprised they aren't keeping people up to date on the delay.
andy_maxman
01-24-2005, 09:02 AM
better late than never folks.......
march / april would be great for me though....
march / april would be great for me though....
textureyes
01-24-2005, 09:05 AM
actually the wait is doing wonders for my animation practice.....
i get to teach myself - animation
and most important of all - timing and patience
i get to teach myself - animation
and most important of all - timing and patience
Makomako
01-24-2005, 01:12 PM
Hello all of you
Sounds like there'll be a lot of students in the firsts sessions of animation mentor.
Does anybody knoes the maximum students they'll take each session?
thanks
regards
Mako
Sounds like there'll be a lot of students in the firsts sessions of animation mentor.
Does anybody knoes the maximum students they'll take each session?
thanks
regards
Mako
Helen Parr
01-24-2005, 02:31 PM
I think the mentors are very busy with their daily job that's why it's taking so long.
Bentagon
01-24-2005, 03:57 PM
Dosen't sound cheap, not too expensive either.
They don't teach me any modelling? I think i missunderstood you there, in AM's trailer they mentioned it dosen't matter if i have no experience or mastering any type of the modelling/animation software. Too animate, i need modells and with AM's help i can do that, right?
Please, correct me!"You focus completely on animation, and that's what you do"
They will give you the models you can animate to download, but they won't teach you how to create them.
I think the mentors are very busy with their daily job that's why it's taking so long. I doubt it. It's the bureau of california which's still taking its time.
- Bentagon
They don't teach me any modelling? I think i missunderstood you there, in AM's trailer they mentioned it dosen't matter if i have no experience or mastering any type of the modelling/animation software. Too animate, i need modells and with AM's help i can do that, right?
Please, correct me!"You focus completely on animation, and that's what you do"
They will give you the models you can animate to download, but they won't teach you how to create them.
I think the mentors are very busy with their daily job that's why it's taking so long. I doubt it. It's the bureau of california which's still taking its time.
- Bentagon
vanlicht
01-24-2005, 04:18 PM
Bentagon, I seriously suggest AM ask you be their logbook keeper.:thumbsup:
Well done, captain!
And guys be patient, i believe AM will have her full-sail launch soon.
Well done, captain!
And guys be patient, i believe AM will have her full-sail launch soon.
Ohem
01-24-2005, 08:43 PM
"You focus completely on animation, and that's what you do"
They will give you the models you can animate to download, but they won't teach you how to create them.
I doubt it. It's the bureau of california which's still taking its time.
- Bentagon
Ahh! thanks for the info, well then, now i only have to read the some tutorials and practice.... a bit.
They will give you the models you can animate to download, but they won't teach you how to create them.
I doubt it. It's the bureau of california which's still taking its time.
- Bentagon
Ahh! thanks for the info, well then, now i only have to read the some tutorials and practice.... a bit.
Tallacus
01-24-2005, 08:58 PM
why did i miss this one? I'm in! Definitely, everything that a wanna be could ever ask for!
grundelboy
01-25-2005, 02:07 PM
Is it ever going to happen? I still can not sign up.
stewartjones
01-25-2005, 02:51 PM
Is it ever going to happen? I still can not sign up.
As stated, no one can sign up at the moment.
Just have to keep waiting!
As stated, no one can sign up at the moment.
Just have to keep waiting!
philippeduvin
01-26-2005, 05:50 AM
Hey yall..
please AM guys, tell us something, even if it's "sorry, no news yet from the bureau" :eek:
tell us something pleazzz :bounce:
please AM guys, tell us something, even if it's "sorry, no news yet from the bureau" :eek:
tell us something pleazzz :bounce:
Helen Parr
01-26-2005, 06:08 AM
Did anyone receive any reply from any AM guys, I emailed them but receive no respond?
I think thy are overwhemlmed by the hundreds of emails they receive everyday.....
Perhaps patience is the better virtue....
I think thy are overwhemlmed by the hundreds of emails they receive everyday.....
Perhaps patience is the better virtue....
philippeduvin
01-26-2005, 06:36 AM
Did anyone receive any reply from any AM guys, I emailed them but receive no respond?
I think thy are overwhemlmed by the hundreds of emails they receive everyday.....
Perhaps patience is the better virtue....
Yes Im sure they are, and I totally understand that, but AM is quite a big thing entering in our lives. It's gonna take a lot of time and money. Some peoples will have to deal with their jobs. I'm freelance so it's easier for me, but think about the peoples who want to take a break with their jobs or something. It could be great for them to plan it a little bit :) So just "hello we still here " from our lovely AM guys ? :thumbsup:
I think thy are overwhemlmed by the hundreds of emails they receive everyday.....
Perhaps patience is the better virtue....
Yes Im sure they are, and I totally understand that, but AM is quite a big thing entering in our lives. It's gonna take a lot of time and money. Some peoples will have to deal with their jobs. I'm freelance so it's easier for me, but think about the peoples who want to take a break with their jobs or something. It could be great for them to plan it a little bit :) So just "hello we still here " from our lovely AM guys ? :thumbsup:
Helen Parr
01-26-2005, 08:56 AM
Yes Im sure they are, and I totally understand that, but AM is quite a big thing entering in our lives. It's gonna take a lot of time and money. Some peoples will have to deal with their jobs. I'm freelance so it's easier for me, but think about the peoples who want to take a break with their jobs or something. It could be great for them to plan it a little bit :) So just "hello we still here " from our lovely AM guys ? :thumbsup:
Yeah, I'm fresh out of school and this is a great opportunity to learn animating. http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
Yeah, I'm fresh out of school and this is a great opportunity to learn animating. http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
swadepgh
01-26-2005, 06:45 PM
THis is very frustrating for those of us interested in 'attending' AM. I count myself among those who have work to plan around. I planned to adjust my workload for a January start date.
Now that that hasn't happened and no prospective new date has been given it is nearly impossible to plan ahead. In the meantime I could be doing work that I turned down in anticipation of a January start.
It would be really nice to hear something, even if it's a set of possible start dates. The lack of information from the AM guys may cause the door on this to close for some of us. That would be rather unfortunate.
Now that that hasn't happened and no prospective new date has been given it is nearly impossible to plan ahead. In the meantime I could be doing work that I turned down in anticipation of a January start.
It would be really nice to hear something, even if it's a set of possible start dates. The lack of information from the AM guys may cause the door on this to close for some of us. That would be rather unfortunate.
mmkelly011881
01-26-2005, 07:12 PM
With my luck it will be sometime between Feb 3rd and Feb 7th... the first time since this thread started that i've been away from a computer with internet access for more than 8 hours... man thats sad..
Yes, i too have turned down jobs due to the potential start date... but i also picked up a ton more jobs that i normally wouldnt have taken back from september through january... so at least now i should be able to afford it... for now.. i'm back down to my 1 1/2 jobs that i normally have so it's a nice break.
I'm sure they are using this time to make AM:Online even better so i'm not too worried even though i stopped filling out applications for grad schools when i heard about this.
ps. if anybody is looking for something to do in the meantime... come join us over at Animation Students Forum (http://animationgroup.proboards30.com/) and practice your basics
Yes, i too have turned down jobs due to the potential start date... but i also picked up a ton more jobs that i normally wouldnt have taken back from september through january... so at least now i should be able to afford it... for now.. i'm back down to my 1 1/2 jobs that i normally have so it's a nice break.
I'm sure they are using this time to make AM:Online even better so i'm not too worried even though i stopped filling out applications for grad schools when i heard about this.
ps. if anybody is looking for something to do in the meantime... come join us over at Animation Students Forum (http://animationgroup.proboards30.com/) and practice your basics
Helen Parr
01-28-2005, 10:32 AM
Few more days before Febuary..... strange how time flies.....
And what is happening at the Bureau of California?
And what is happening at the Bureau of California?
dimension10
01-28-2005, 10:51 AM
I am hoping that they still decide to offer the slow pace the first term, but at this point I don't know how it would be possible to without offsetting the entire yearly schedule.
Sniffet
01-28-2005, 01:31 PM
What do you mean by "deciding to offer slower pace"? I haven't seen any information that they are deciding to skip pace2 (6 months instead of 3) all of a sudden. If they will only offer fulltime pace, I won't be able to participate Im afraid.
/Regards Peter k
/Regards Peter k
mojodesign
01-28-2005, 02:01 PM
well the way things are going, I don't see how they can start now without throwing off the yearly schedule......so I think (IMO) even if the bureau gives the ok, AM wouldn't (or shouldn't) start up right away. Perhaps, if that is the case, they should release a statement saying that classes will not be starting til next semester/quarter. That would keep the yearly schedule on schedule as well as give people time to plan out their lives (school and/or work, and AM). That of course shouldn't stop them from allowing peeps to register at this point in time.
swadepgh
01-28-2005, 04:31 PM
I agree with you mojodesign. Some news would be nice. Even if it doesn't happen as planned, it would be nice to know what start date they have in mind at this point.
Jozvex
01-28-2005, 08:57 PM
Yep, I'd say mojodesign is probably right.
animboom
01-28-2005, 09:23 PM
Hey Folks. Bobby Beck here from AnimationMentor.com. We've been trying to keep a low profile so we don't keep getting expectations up and then run into more roadblocks on our end.
We understand that people need to make plans and for that reason we wanted to send out a small heads up without sending a whole newsletter.
There will be a new newsletter sometime in the next 2 weeks that will announce the opening of our doors and the beginning of registration! We know that the delays have been a little nutty for everyone but we've made the most of this time on our end. Thanks for being patient and for those who have "planned their lives around AnimationMentor" we sincerely appreciate your support during this time.
In the meantime if you have any questions please call the Office at: 510-809-1177 or send your questions to: newsletter@animationmentor.com Thanks a ton!
-BOOM
We understand that people need to make plans and for that reason we wanted to send out a small heads up without sending a whole newsletter.
There will be a new newsletter sometime in the next 2 weeks that will announce the opening of our doors and the beginning of registration! We know that the delays have been a little nutty for everyone but we've made the most of this time on our end. Thanks for being patient and for those who have "planned their lives around AnimationMentor" we sincerely appreciate your support during this time.
In the meantime if you have any questions please call the Office at: 510-809-1177 or send your questions to: newsletter@animationmentor.com Thanks a ton!
-BOOM
Bentagon
01-28-2005, 09:56 PM
aah, so that means you got certified? Great news!
BTW, Bobby, I've mailed you what you asked for, and another question I had for you. I couldn't PM it because your PM inbox is full... maybe you should delete some messages? Anyhoo, I hope you can find the time to read and maybe answer
Keep up the great job! Can't wait for the newsletter. :bounce:
- Bentagon
BTW, Bobby, I've mailed you what you asked for, and another question I had for you. I couldn't PM it because your PM inbox is full... maybe you should delete some messages? Anyhoo, I hope you can find the time to read and maybe answer
Keep up the great job! Can't wait for the newsletter. :bounce:
- Bentagon
swadepgh
01-28-2005, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the update. :)
mmkelly011881
01-28-2005, 10:01 PM
hehe benjamin.. he didnt actually say that so i'm not gonna assume anything yet :)
thanks for the heads up on a time frame Bobby, it'll help keep me a bit more sane
thanks for the heads up on a time frame Bobby, it'll help keep me a bit more sane
Helen Parr
01-29-2005, 01:40 AM
2 more weeks till the opening of AM doors!
Now I can sleep peacefully.http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
Now I can sleep peacefully.http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
Mooncalf
01-29-2005, 03:00 AM
2 more weeks till the opening of AM doors!
Now I can sleep peacefully.http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
I think it's 2 more weeks till the ANOUNCEMENT of the DATE of the opening of AMonline's doors. :) Still, I'm super psyched even about that!
- M
Now I can sleep peacefully.http://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
I think it's 2 more weeks till the ANOUNCEMENT of the DATE of the opening of AMonline's doors. :) Still, I'm super psyched even about that!
- M
SheepFactory
01-29-2005, 04:15 AM
actually if you carefully read bobby's message we might get the announcement even before two weeks :)
*crosses fingers
*crosses fingers
stewartjones
01-29-2005, 05:20 PM
:buttrock:
There will be a new newsletter sometime in the next 2 weeks that will announce the opening of our doors and the beginning of registration!
Cheers for the info Bobby!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
The long wait is nearly over everyone!
I look forward to being a student with you all. :thumbsup:
There will be a new newsletter sometime in the next 2 weeks that will announce the opening of our doors and the beginning of registration!
Cheers for the info Bobby!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
The long wait is nearly over everyone!
I look forward to being a student with you all. :thumbsup:
PixelTales
01-29-2005, 05:27 PM
Thanks for the update Bobby, it's very exciting news indeed! :thumbsup:
Afr_CG
01-30-2005, 12:19 PM
thanx bobby for the small update....can't wait to start.
like vyntax, I certainly look forward to being a student!
:deal:
like vyntax, I certainly look forward to being a student!
:deal:
AjaBogdanoff
01-31-2005, 12:02 PM
I'm so tempted to call that number Bobby posted... maybe say something along the lines of "Pleasepleasepleaseplease!!!" ;)
So, I have to apologize if this has already been discussed ad nauseam, but I haven't seen it answered... does anyone know how the payment will work? Will we know a couple of days in advance that we're registering, then be expected to use a credit/debit card to drop $2500 on their web site? Or do we register first, pay later?
Also, what's going on with the one-page essay? Are they going to take those into account when we attempt to register, or are they just a state requirement that will be filed away and never seen again?
So, I have to apologize if this has already been discussed ad nauseam, but I haven't seen it answered... does anyone know how the payment will work? Will we know a couple of days in advance that we're registering, then be expected to use a credit/debit card to drop $2500 on their web site? Or do we register first, pay later?
Also, what's going on with the one-page essay? Are they going to take those into account when we attempt to register, or are they just a state requirement that will be filed away and never seen again?
Bentagon
01-31-2005, 12:28 PM
How the payment will work isn't 100% clear yet... the essay thing is important, though, but not difficult. I don't know if you'll have to register first and then show your essay or the other way around, but I know it has to show you are eager and dedicated to learn. It has to show you want this. It has to show your drive. But if you are driven, there's no need to panic, cause then it will most probably be clear in your essay.
Anyhow, I might be wrong, but I'm guessing these issues will be addressed in the newsletter.
- Bentagon
Anyhow, I might be wrong, but I'm guessing these issues will be addressed in the newsletter.
- Bentagon
AjaBogdanoff
01-31-2005, 01:10 PM
You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that we won't have to pay it all at once during registration. I have a debit card, and I know it can't go above $500/day, and I think some credit cards can't, either, right? Not to mention I'd be a little nervous sending quite that much cash out over the internet... maybe we'll pay a deposit, then send the rest later?
*idle speculation*
So, are people working on those essays now, or should we wait until the newsletter comes out?
*idle speculation*
So, are people working on those essays now, or should we wait until the newsletter comes out?
stewartjones
01-31-2005, 01:14 PM
So, are people working on those essays now, or should we wait until the newsletter comes out?
I would suggest getting a bit of it done now, then you can sit back and do some other stuff! :)
I would suggest getting a bit of it done now, then you can sit back and do some other stuff! :)
Bentagon
01-31-2005, 03:37 PM
Mine's finished, and I know some others have theirs finished too.
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
swadepgh
01-31-2005, 04:10 PM
I also finished the essay. I think it would be best to get it done sooner than later. Though I am sure the AM guys will do what they can to prevent a "feeding frenzy" when they begin to accept applications, you probably don't want the essay to be the thing that holds up your applciation.
Just my two cents. I hope that there are enough spaces for everyone who is interested in joining the first class.
Just my two cents. I hope that there are enough spaces for everyone who is interested in joining the first class.
PixelTales
01-31-2005, 04:10 PM
I finished my essay the day I new I needed one. If you have the extra time I would suggest getting your essay done as soon as possible too. If you are as excited about this progam as many of us are you souldn't have any trouble filling one page with reasons why your excited about AM and why you think you should be involved. As Bentagon said I think it will be an important part of the process, it might be nice to start early so you can get it just right. You may even have trouble keeping it down to one page, but don't be tempted.
As for the payment, here is a quote from one of Bobby Becks posts #1446 in this tread.
As for Payment we will also accept Check, money orders etc.
And, also a quote from the FAQ section of the 3rd newsletter
2. What type of payment options will be available?
Registering for classes at AnimationMentor.com will require registration for one class at a time. We do not allow students to sign up for the full course all at once. This allows our student the ability to see if they like the learning environment. We will not be offering "student aid" for our students at this time, but we are working on it (it takes at least 2 years of being a fully operational school before we can be considered for this type of program). We will accept all major credit cards.
I think this is the most updated info on payment.
As for the payment, here is a quote from one of Bobby Becks posts #1446 in this tread.
As for Payment we will also accept Check, money orders etc.
And, also a quote from the FAQ section of the 3rd newsletter
2. What type of payment options will be available?
Registering for classes at AnimationMentor.com will require registration for one class at a time. We do not allow students to sign up for the full course all at once. This allows our student the ability to see if they like the learning environment. We will not be offering "student aid" for our students at this time, but we are working on it (it takes at least 2 years of being a fully operational school before we can be considered for this type of program). We will accept all major credit cards.
I think this is the most updated info on payment.
Helen Parr
02-01-2005, 12:19 AM
How about International Students? The price are quite heavy because of the country currency.
clockwerkz
02-01-2005, 01:19 AM
Man, I am fresh off of working on the January Ten Second Club entry, and I am sooooo psyched for AM to start. Especially since they're gearing up to open doors to enrollment. I got the essay, my HS diploma and college transcripts rdy to go. I also caught up on my math, although I don't think that the test will be a prob.
I can't believe it's almost here now. Wow.. long wait, huh?? I think it'll be *WELL* worth it.
cW
I can't believe it's almost here now. Wow.. long wait, huh?? I think it'll be *WELL* worth it.
cW
mmkelly011881
02-01-2005, 05:07 AM
I'm with you cW.
hehe, i have triple backups on people checking my email for the coming week. I'm going to be away from the computer for the first time since i heard about AM:Online from thursday the 3rd till monday the 7th. I have 3 people checking my email at home during that timeframe and 1 checking it on a forward bounce for anything that says Animation or Newsletter in the subject or body. :) (hehe so the email better not say something like "It's finally here!" and then just have a link :) )
copies of my college transcript and diploma, stamps, 10 years supply of non-perishable food, coffee and backup car batteries to jump my computer in case of power outage, sun lamps to keep that healthy glow so my family doesnt get worried, music that is easy to ignore, music that is impossible to ignore, a metronome, a stopwatch, my wacom tablet, paper, pens, markers, pencils, 3 pencil sharpeners, 9 half filled sketchbooks (both large and small), a cheap digital camera for recording my ridiculous attempts at acting (and perhaps my attempts at hand drawn animation), a slinky, chewing gum, a bucket(you don't want to know), a hammer, several balls of various size and density, scissors, a phone (turned off), animation books (my newest "Chuck Amuck" is AMAZING, i recommend it highly), my poor attempt at constructing a pegbar, dvds (educational and entertaining( i need to get something to watch them on besides my computer)), blank zip disks, blank cds, blank dvds for backup, my credit card in the hope that pizza hut delivers directly to my room, kitkats to lure unsuspecting mentors, my custom Animation Mentor wallpaper that i made that says YOU SHOULD BE ANIMATING!!!
hehe, i have triple backups on people checking my email for the coming week. I'm going to be away from the computer for the first time since i heard about AM:Online from thursday the 3rd till monday the 7th. I have 3 people checking my email at home during that timeframe and 1 checking it on a forward bounce for anything that says Animation or Newsletter in the subject or body. :) (hehe so the email better not say something like "It's finally here!" and then just have a link :) )
copies of my college transcript and diploma, stamps, 10 years supply of non-perishable food, coffee and backup car batteries to jump my computer in case of power outage, sun lamps to keep that healthy glow so my family doesnt get worried, music that is easy to ignore, music that is impossible to ignore, a metronome, a stopwatch, my wacom tablet, paper, pens, markers, pencils, 3 pencil sharpeners, 9 half filled sketchbooks (both large and small), a cheap digital camera for recording my ridiculous attempts at acting (and perhaps my attempts at hand drawn animation), a slinky, chewing gum, a bucket(you don't want to know), a hammer, several balls of various size and density, scissors, a phone (turned off), animation books (my newest "Chuck Amuck" is AMAZING, i recommend it highly), my poor attempt at constructing a pegbar, dvds (educational and entertaining( i need to get something to watch them on besides my computer)), blank zip disks, blank cds, blank dvds for backup, my credit card in the hope that pizza hut delivers directly to my room, kitkats to lure unsuspecting mentors, my custom Animation Mentor wallpaper that i made that says YOU SHOULD BE ANIMATING!!!
textureyes
02-01-2005, 05:11 AM
Damn
a slinky.....
i knew i forgot something.....
Im adding matchsticks for my eye lids to that list...
a slinky.....
i knew i forgot something.....
Im adding matchsticks for my eye lids to that list...
alexandrecollac
02-01-2005, 01:14 PM
Lock and Load
clockwerkz
02-01-2005, 03:29 PM
Damn, Matt.. I knew I forgot something.. good thing you put that list out.. But never fear, I have sent my wife out to the local hardware store to buy me a BUCKET! Hehehe.
cW
cW
stewartjones
02-01-2005, 04:01 PM
Damn, Matt.. I knew I forgot something.. good thing you put that list out.. But never fear, I have sent my wife out to the local hardware store to buy me a BUCKET! Hehehe.
cW
Best buy 2... You never know!!!
cW
Best buy 2... You never know!!!
daraand
02-01-2005, 04:06 PM
I'll admit too, Chuck Amuck is one of the coolest books I've read myself. Although I didn't end up buying it :/ (ahh poor college students) - I read almost all of it. It's definately worth a pick
Anyone heard of the book To the Actor? Not to derial the thread too much - I'm in search of this now - I hear its a great book for acting etc.
Anyone heard of the book To the Actor? Not to derial the thread too much - I'm in search of this now - I hear its a great book for acting etc.
PixelTales
02-01-2005, 07:14 PM
Agent J, I did a quick search for that book and this is what I came up with. It looks like Amazon has 14 used & new copies of the first edition for $2.94 and up heres the link.
To the Actor (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060107553/002-8824193-3792034)
also
To the actor 2nd Edition Paperback (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415258766/ref=lpr_g_2/002-8824193-3792034?v=glance&s=books) - for $19.77
2nd Ed. Hardcover (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415258758/ref=lpr_g_1/002-8824193-3792034?v=glance&s=books) - for $104.95 :eek:
To the Actor (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060107553/002-8824193-3792034)
also
To the actor 2nd Edition Paperback (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415258766/ref=lpr_g_2/002-8824193-3792034?v=glance&s=books) - for $19.77
2nd Ed. Hardcover (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415258758/ref=lpr_g_1/002-8824193-3792034?v=glance&s=books) - for $104.95 :eek:
Kenny_Rocks
02-02-2005, 07:43 PM
well i've done my essay..just need to photocopy my education certificate and get it ready to fax to the states.. Got the money in the bank. I am Good to go.
:)
Hope everyone gets on AM.. it would suck for any of us to miss out on this.
:)
Hope everyone gets on AM.. it would suck for any of us to miss out on this.
swadepgh
02-02-2005, 08:28 PM
I agree. I hope that everyone who wants one, gets a spot in the first class.
The closer it gets, the more anxious I get.
Cheers all! :bounce:
The closer it gets, the more anxious I get.
Cheers all! :bounce:
erilaz
02-02-2005, 09:06 PM
I hope I get in! I've been dreaming of something like this for so long it hurts my glands! Good luck to all!:D
bentllama
02-03-2005, 05:57 AM
where is the information about this required 'essay'?
andy_maxman
02-03-2005, 06:11 AM
page 106 on this thread is a link to the newsletter3.5....you will find the the information about the required 'essay'
barclan
02-03-2005, 09:04 AM
Anyone knows where I could see some more samples of the SLE test?. I had a look at twelve questions in wonderlic site but would like to see someone else.
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
darkefire
02-03-2005, 04:21 PM
i've been watching this thing unfold since the very first post by Jason (Prophet of the Mentors?http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/smile.gif ), and i've read pretty much every page of the thread since then. i thought since this thing is this close to ground zero, i might as well add my 2 cents in.
i'm glad that there seem to be quite a few of us that are so enthusiastic about what Boom and company are bringing to the table. Imagine if the post went mostly unnoticed and no one ever replied. So many of us who have no other opportunity to study in this field (other than self-teaching with books, tutorials, and DVD's) due to work/life constraints, would never even have a hope of contributing to this craft. With every post i get more excited for the doors to finally open. I get motivation to practice with my own short animations, and i get a feeling that i, too, can make it. Bobby and the fine people who've agreed to become mentors arent only giving us a fighting chance, but they're giving us hope.
And by constantly checking back and posting on this grotesquely obese thread, we've not only created a community of hopefuls, we've launched and fed probably one of the biggest PR machines these guys could hope for! http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
i'm glad that there seem to be quite a few of us that are so enthusiastic about what Boom and company are bringing to the table. Imagine if the post went mostly unnoticed and no one ever replied. So many of us who have no other opportunity to study in this field (other than self-teaching with books, tutorials, and DVD's) due to work/life constraints, would never even have a hope of contributing to this craft. With every post i get more excited for the doors to finally open. I get motivation to practice with my own short animations, and i get a feeling that i, too, can make it. Bobby and the fine people who've agreed to become mentors arent only giving us a fighting chance, but they're giving us hope.
And by constantly checking back and posting on this grotesquely obese thread, we've not only created a community of hopefuls, we've launched and fed probably one of the biggest PR machines these guys could hope for! http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
Guiliguili
02-03-2005, 04:34 PM
In Google, type "Test" and you will get a lot of site which have a lot of test similar as the one we will have for animationmentor.
www.iqtest.com
www.queendom.com
http://similarminds.com
www.intelligencetest.com
www.highiqsociety.org
Hope this help
www.iqtest.com
www.queendom.com
http://similarminds.com
www.intelligencetest.com
www.highiqsociety.org
Hope this help
agreenster
02-03-2005, 04:51 PM
And by constantly checking back and posting on this grotesquely obese thread, we've not only created a community of hopefuls, we've launched and fed probably one of the biggest PR machines these guys could hope for! http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
More than they expected, too. They said they only expected a couple hundred interested people, and I'm sure they are going to receive thousands of applications. And it isnt just here on CGTalk, it's on many many websites. Nearly everyone who is into animation knows about it.
I'm sure it has everything to do with the talented people involved, and their reputations in this industry. Had it been started by people who were professors at Ringling or the Art Institute, it would have been noticed, but not received the kind of attention it's getting. I mean, they have Eric Goldberg on the trailer for crying out loud. Eric Goldberg!
ERIC GOLDBERG!
So yeah, all of the up-and-coming animators who want to get into this industry have the opportunity to learn from some of the MOST talented people around, and have the potential to become skilled, refined (and lets not forget employed) animators themselves. That's the real draw, at least for me.
Eric Goldberg! :O
More than they expected, too. They said they only expected a couple hundred interested people, and I'm sure they are going to receive thousands of applications. And it isnt just here on CGTalk, it's on many many websites. Nearly everyone who is into animation knows about it.
I'm sure it has everything to do with the talented people involved, and their reputations in this industry. Had it been started by people who were professors at Ringling or the Art Institute, it would have been noticed, but not received the kind of attention it's getting. I mean, they have Eric Goldberg on the trailer for crying out loud. Eric Goldberg!
ERIC GOLDBERG!
So yeah, all of the up-and-coming animators who want to get into this industry have the opportunity to learn from some of the MOST talented people around, and have the potential to become skilled, refined (and lets not forget employed) animators themselves. That's the real draw, at least for me.
Eric Goldberg! :O
philippeduvin
02-04-2005, 04:21 PM
just hope that it's not gonna open this week...i'll be FARRRRR away from internet !! :)
please guys wait until sunday evening :thumbsup:
please guys wait until sunday evening :thumbsup:
darktding
02-04-2005, 04:28 PM
Just curious, if so many do get into animation I wonder the state of the industry when so many animators graduate! I fear that so many will be out looking for a job and compeition will be neck to neck I just hope that many of you get a job when u finish. best of luck again!
Bentagon
02-04-2005, 04:38 PM
I bet there will be quite a few who've already got a job, but just want to improve. And I guess not everyone will be fit to do the major work, even after this course. You need a lot of talent!
- Bentagon
- Bentagon
barclan
02-04-2005, 04:39 PM
Hi Guiliguili, thanks for answer and links.
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