Alexander

[vfx]

I saw this in the morning, and I think its looks beautiful, what an epic should look like.


This is what Troy should have been. This should hopefully be a more wholesome movie with Oliver Stone at the helm. I love the whole arabian feel, and the deep rich colour - especially the yellow tints. I just hope that Colin Farrell holds up, hopefully he will, cos he was excellent in Phone booth.

The best bit of the trailer = thw horse and the elephant - Really original!!! More of that please....

[hmurchison]

Troy was a horrible concept on many different fronts

It pandered to the superficiality of Hollywood.

"Let's get three Hot male actors and put each in love stories"

Thus you have Troy...a movie that is so unfocused and contrived it startles the senses.

For the record I don't regret seeing the movie because I love movies but Troy could have been so much more. I do trust in Stone to do the right thing with Alexander and it won't turn into beefcake central.

However I doubt they touch the alleged "bisexuality" of Alexander with a 10ft pole. I love the trailer....can to story live up to the visuals?? We'll see.

[eric3dee]

haha. opens same weekend as Incredibles. That doesn't seem like a great idea to me even tho it somewhat is aimed at a different age audience. Oh well-- I always liked the story of Alexander better, but I must say that this trailer doesn't do near as much for me as the trailers for King Arthur and Troy.

[P_T]

wat da heck was that at the end? looks like he's playin chicken with an elephant. :eek: that end bit really kills it for me...

[PhilOsirus]

What is getting on my nerve is the whole super-hero-warrior has blond hair, just like in Troy. Wouldn't be difficult to dye his hair no? But I guess the hero always has to look more "white" than the others.:rolleyes:

[cgman27]

Yeah the hair thing is pretty ghey.

I understand they need to sell tickets, but then maybe colin farell wasn't a good choice in the first place.

Ever picture I have ever seen in my reading of AtG he is depicted with dark hair. And really considering he was from Macedonia .... but who wants to really make accurate depictions of anything anymore.

Besides being a rehash of the 1956 film :\

[athosghost]

I don't know about this one. For one I don't like Collin Farrel and for another, I don't like Oliver Stone. Call me crazy what can I say :shrug: Isn't some one else also making a movie about Alexander? I thought I heard that somewhere. There were rumors that Leonardo DiCraprio was going to star in it. Oh well, I guess we'll just never get a good Alexander movie.

[Joe_H]

It pandered to the superficiality of Hollywood.

That seems to be what Oliver Stone did here. Colin Ferrell and Val Kilmer are both in this film. There you have two hot actors by most standards. At least one of them is in a love story. The blonde hair thing on Ferrell just reinforces the superficiality.

The fact is Colin Ferrell is a terrible choice to play Alexander. He's a pretty good actor, but is nowhere near right for this role. I'm a fan of Val Kilmer, but he doesn't fit this kind of film either. The casting in this is as bad as it was in Troy.

I don't like Oliver Stone.

I've never been a fan of Oliver Stone or his movies either. I do not like most of his movies, even though he's by all rights considered a great director. Hated Nixon, Natural Born Killers, Any Given Sunday, The Doors, Born On the Fourth of July. I was mildly entertained by JFK. The only films he's done that I really like are Wall Street and the first half of Platoon. After the Seargent got killed halfway through, I lost interested.

[Ondrayce]

Yeah. I had heard that the director of Moulin Rouge was gonna make it too. I wonder if he still is. It's the same story, but he and Stone would deffinately have different takes on it.

[Slurry]

Not sure about Colin Farrel as the lead in this but Val Kilmer and Anthony Hopkins may make it worth seeing.

Don't read too much into the blonde hair either. Throwing race into a discussion is pretty irresponsible without knowing the facts.
It's fairly well known that the Greeks of that time admired blonde hair and looked at it as a desirable quality. They would even dye it.

Personally, I thought the elephant/horse stand off looked pretty cool.

But I am worried that Hollywood is jumping on the "EPIC" bandwagon. I hope they take their time and do it right. King Arthur looks lame and Troy was iffy.

~S

[geoffr]

I saw a program on BBC4 about the Oxford professor who is the historical expert on the film. He wrote the definitive book on Alexander.
All he wanted to be paid was the chance to ride in the cavalry charge, which he did.
In the program he was telling Oliver Stone that he couldn't call some of the characters Tony (or something like that).

[maxx10]

Well Alexander the Great was dark blondish... at least it seems in some mosaic

http://www.androphile.org/preview/Library/Biographies/Alexander/Alexander.jpg

just watched the trailer... in the last scene, with the long hair, it remainded me of thefirst Agassi:http://www.mountpleasantltc.ie/funstuff/fashion/agassi.jpg

oh well, Andre the Great :thumbsup:

[gKay]

troy, arthur, alexander...

So many epic conqueror/war movies... does this have something to do with the political state of the us? :hmm:

[slaughters]

Originally posted by gKay
...does this have something to do with the political state of the us? :hmm: That must explain "Shrek 2", "Van Helsing" and "Soul Plane" as well. :rolleyes:

What really happens is that in Hollywood one idea is pitched by a producer to many different studios and directors. Some may like the general idea, but not the specific direction the producer wants to go with it, so they (ehhmm) "borrow" the idea and make their own varition on the concept.
This is why its very common for simular themed "Blockbuster movies" to come out around the same time from totally different studios


Thinking about it, in addition to the above copying I was talking about, I really expect it was the success of "Lord of the Rings" which sparked the epic battles in ancient times trend. The timing is about right.

P.S. It looks like a long ponytail hair style on Alexander in some of the coins that had his image stamped on them
http://www.tigtail.org/TIG/TVM/E/Ancient/Greek/Greek-art/6_hellenistic/T/hellenistic_alexander_silver_tetradrachma-egypt.c318bc.jpg

[gKay]

Originally posted by slaughters
[B]That must explain "Shrek 2", "Van Helsing" and "Soul Plane" as well. :rolleyes:
:scream:

yes, that explains a lot.

I was starting to think, that even hollywood is under US political control. Luck, this isn't the case... :rolleyes:

[PhilOsirus]

Well since Gladiator, many have seen what can be done with the technology as to recreating old civilizations without the problems of gigantic and expensive movie sets. With the new technology, clashing armies are simply more likely to appear on the big screen, bigger battles than in Brave Heart.

[SuperMax]

isnt Peter Wier doing an Alexander movie aswell?

[Ibanezhead]

What I'm getting tired of is the before battle speech. Braveheart and Gladiator did it well, but now it just seems copied. I haven't seen Troy, but it and Alexander both seem to be copying Gladiator's speech, "what you do here, echoes in eternity" or whatever he said. Troy and Alexander seem to have some similar line in the trailers...

I figured his hair was blonde from being out in the sun...

[Stonepilot]

Collin freakin farrel out of all the people they casted this F____R. Well... at least he gets to nail Britney. I hate that guy.

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