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illustr8r
05-22-2004, 05:33 PM
Ben Shafer has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.

illustr8r
06-01-2004, 07:14 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086074075_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086074075_large.jpg)

So, I'm entering the contest a little late. But, I'm looking forward to this challenge because its right up my alley. I think this will be a lot of fun.
I've been working on a story idea that I had already laid out and already done some concepts for various chapters. I'm going to take part of this story and expand on my idea and hopefully do a cool piece for this challenge.
Here is the premise of the story. I took the classic greek novel, Homer's Odyssey, and I set it so it takes place in a dark, futuristic, industrial world. I've done some concepts for the cyclops(Polyphemus) and his battle with Odysseus, as well as some other characters, environments, weapon's etc.
I figured this contest would be a great opportunity for me take my idea for the Siren's and their island and take it further and do a full illustration.
In the original Odyssey, the Siren's are beautiful women that live on an island and sing with bewitching voices that no man can resist. Passing sailors get lulled into a trance and go to them only to have terrible, unspoken things done to them.
My siren's are also beautiful women, but sing into microphones that are wired to massive amplifiers that are then routed to an intense, decible blasting speaker system. This "surround sound" system is all part the Siren's Island, which is going to be shown in my final illustration.
But, first here is a character design for the Siren's. They are bound to large mechanical arms that extend down from where they attach above. These machines appear to serve as bondage that goes so far as to be implanted within their backs and is attached to their flesh throughout their body. There is a duality in the relationship between Siren's and their mechanics, for they also hold controls that allow them to control the reach of the giant mech arm and slide back and forth along a track above them. They also have fiendish instruments of torture at thier disposal in the form of additional mechanical arms.
Now I've been rambling, but I'm excited about this idea and can't wait to do the finished piece. So, anyway I'll shut up and until I update with more stuff.

shivacola
06-01-2004, 01:11 PM
cool tits :thumbsup:

NathanielWest
06-01-2004, 04:24 PM
Very very nice drawing! I like the idea alot. I want to see some more down and dirty sketches of it though. Can't wait to see some more of this thread. You're doing a great job!

0-2
06-01-2004, 04:26 PM
No negetive coments from me, your work is realy neat and has some nice details, good job on the material.

adrianis
06-01-2004, 07:21 PM
Cool sketch and good idea, your drawing is promising
Can't wait to see colors!!!

good luck! mmm. ok, good win!!

artjunkie
06-01-2004, 09:15 PM
Well, it your paints are anywhere near the level of sophistication of your pencil work, this piece will kick some serious ass! :buttrock:

Love the tech design - and a cool concept behind the whole thing. I don't need to wish you luck, that's for sure... just get it done in time. I really wanna see it when it's done! :bowdown:

Luter
06-01-2004, 10:19 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaa.....aaaaaaa.......aaaaaaaaa.....a that is BEAUTIFULL...................

I LIKE IT.:bounce:

You hace a so very nice line, so clean....May I repeat myself and sorry cause I have nothing else to say as crits....but I love this drawing and this cool-peace-idea.. a very good sense of volume, and weight and space...and imagination, I wish you to have time to finish it, 'cause it could be really a masterpiece...can't wait etc blabla..

I Subscribe to this thread !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An other one in my fav.....:wavey:

sketchfiend
06-02-2004, 02:56 AM
Love your line work, excellent detail, i cant wait to see her done. I can completely sense that the final piece will be amazing. Weel done

And to green.7, "nice tits" now thats what i call constructive criticism. hehehe.

Keep up the awesome job, cant wait to see what you do next.:bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup: :bowdown:

illustr8r
06-04-2004, 12:17 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086308242_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086308242_large.jpg)

Here are some more down-and-dirty sketches. The first is a top view schematic sketch of the island. The second is a 3/4 side view to show some of the dimension.

illustr8r
06-04-2004, 05:39 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086370798_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086370798_large.jpg)

A couple of rough sketches of the final composition. Quick value drawing to figure out the silhouettes and the "framing" of the composition.

brunowerneck
06-05-2004, 12:29 AM
I think it's very nice so far... Your drawing is very clean and reminds me of comic book penciling. I like the idea of a futuristic Odissey as well.

I notice in you composition study, the Siren is facing away from us. That's been one of the greatest challenges in this contest: to pose out a character in a way in order to: show the mechanical part clearly , have a dynamic pose and also, to tell a story.

I find it really chalenging to get all these at once. So for instance, I feel you could turn her face to us a little more, but still showing how the mechanics go into the flesh, for the sake of the contest...

But I do wonder if all the contest want is simple standing poses, like those from regula character design and model sheets...


Anyway, look nice !

best regards,

Bruno (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=136875&perpage=20&pagenumber=2)

illustr8r
06-05-2004, 06:51 PM
Thanks for the c&c everyone.

Bruno...as far as changing the angle that you see the Siren. I think you have a good point. However, the way I laid out the composition, I think it should not be an issue. I know my thunbnail is not extremely refined and it is hard to see clearly whats going on. But, I will be showing all three Sirens from different angles in the final piece.
I was unclear about whether the contest called for just a character design or a full illustration. But, I think that the judges would probably accept either as long as it has the quality and elements that they are looking for.
I just hope I can pull off a high enough quality piece to be considered when it comes down to end game. :) There are a lot of really amazing artists providing stiff competion and I think it is very motivating. But, even if I don't place, I will have had fun doing this anyway.

Hopefully I will be posting the final line drawing soon.:thumbsup:

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 12:04 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086739452_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086739452_large.jpg)

Well, here is the final line drawing. I feel that deadline ominously looming over my head.

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 12:41 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086741704_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086741704_large.jpg)

Well, here is the final line drawing. I feel that deadline ominously looming over my head.

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 12:47 AM
oops...sorry that got posted twice.

sketchfiend
06-09-2004, 12:48 AM
Looks awesome bud, Congrats on the great pic, cant wait to see what you do with the colour up. Keep it up, i will look forward to more updates from you.:thumbsup: :bowdown: :beer: :D

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 01:16 AM
thanks sketchfiend. I hope that I can come through with a good final piece. I will be posting my color WIP pics soon and would appreciate any C&C that anyone might have. Thanks everyone.

Luter
06-09-2004, 01:47 AM
It's nice, great, beautiful.....i love your style......................................another one in my fav......................pfewwwwwwwww...................... some good pieces in this funny contest, is'nt it...:D it's a good thing.

I wait your color tests......

keep up !


I wish you the best.

cheers.

jeffrey

Russo
06-09-2004, 01:59 AM
very good line work you´ve got there.. keep them coming
very nice your signature too hehe added to my text archive hehehehe

cheers :beer:

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 06:52 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086763939_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086763939_large.jpg)

I'm counting these as coloring WIP...even though there is no color yet. :) Because of the nature of the piece, value is more important than color. So, I will pretty much be doing a full tonal piece before the coloring becomes much of a factor.

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 06:54 AM
Since I tightened up so much on the line drawing, I think it will be good for me to approach this stage of my process fairly loosely at first..... before I get too caught up in the details.

paulwdavidson
06-09-2004, 10:02 AM
Congratulations!.... Like myself, you're an artist that likes to make things look as if they could work. The illusion of convincing people this could happen.....if not that, certainly if that world existed, that's how it would be done. It helps to cement some sort of believability in something that is exotic and alien to us. Giving it some relation to the world we live in, gives it a grounding for suspending our disbelief.

Nice linework....good technique, also the composition is nice.....the eye stays in the picture, it doesn't really get lost.

Good luck

Paul

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133522

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 03:43 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086795832_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086795832_large.jpg)

Just blocking in the darks and figuring out the level of atmospheric perspective I wan to incorporate. This piece is out on the ocean and it will be foggy. The overall piece will be very dark with a lot of contrast from spotlights on the Siren's faces.

hephez
06-09-2004, 03:54 PM
the prospect for the scene is excellent :eek:
I await the color impatiently!!! :bounce:

MrFreeman
06-09-2004, 04:05 PM
:) Really great line drawings...love the concept and detail of the piece....

The tonal work already hints at the atmoshere of the image....it's good to see how others approach creating their image...having not really done this sort of thing before, it is good to get ideas of how to improve my own techniques

With such a great start, I hope you get this completed in time as the end result is bound to be worth waiting for...

Good luck and post some colour WIP soon

adrianis
06-09-2004, 06:55 PM
no words! your drawing is incredible! :cry:

I like a lot the scene, I'm impatient for the final result!

The women are above the sea right?
(I don't know how to express this thought in english..my poor english)
If there's not too much fog, would you improve some.. reflections over the girls from the water? (under the water is "caustic effect", don't know outside)

well, I'll be waiting for colors!

__________________________________________________
Si el tiempo es corto.. esto será una ilustración alla prima...

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 11:34 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086824097_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086824097_large.jpg)

Close-up:
working out the how the light hits all the different planes in the detail areas.

shawnalanpeters
06-09-2004, 11:47 PM
dope..! this is a great drawing... one of your best pieces.
I hope you can put the same amount of time into the color as you hace the drawing. But on the otherhand...with such a tight drawing you could let the drawing show through the color and not get to opaque..

good luck!

illustr8r
06-09-2004, 11:58 PM
Thanks for all the support everyone. :thumbsup:

Shawn: Yeah, my plan is to take this detailed value piece and just kind of "glaze" in a little bit of color. I picture it over all very limited palette, almost mono-chromatic in color. I'm hoping that with all the values and details already worked out, the color will go relatively quickly. :beer:

jack_sparrow
06-10-2004, 12:01 AM
WOW I just stumbled onto this post and Im really glad I did, this is amazing! the detail in the line art is really well done!
I can't wait to see this one finished! :bounce:

techart
06-10-2004, 08:27 AM
nice drawing dude...nice drawing

illustr8r
06-10-2004, 05:35 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086888928_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086888928_large.jpg)

Pushing the foreground Siren a little further.

ardenrey
06-10-2004, 06:53 PM
nice work!:thumbsup: I like the atmosphere of the picture! keep it up!
Good Luck!:thumbsup:

illustr8r
06-10-2004, 07:39 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086896341_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1086896341_large.jpg)

Well, I've got this tonal piece pretty much where I want it for now. I'll be taking it further once I add in color. I'm still planning on the color being fairly minimal, but we'll see how it progresses.

illustr8r
06-10-2004, 07:43 PM
Any comments or critics are very much welcome. I appreciate those who have given me thier imput thus far.

What can I do to punch this up as I bring it closer to the finish?
:shrug:

duddlebug
06-12-2004, 12:27 PM
Wow!!

I've just found this thread 'by accident' and it's great!!

The line-drawings are so clean and detailed... really beautiful. And the tonal WIP you've posted shows that this is gonna be a great piece. It's a good demonstration of process and i'd agree that the tonal values are more important than the colour at this stage. I'm gonna keep coming back to this one...

Good luck getting everything done!!

artjunkie
06-12-2004, 01:28 PM
And I thought your initial line art concept design was great! This work has evolved into a damn masterpiece! I'd hang that on my wall! No joke, man. Hope you get time to finish up a colour version, but if not... WHO CARES?! THIS IS AMAZING! :bowdown:

Can't wait to see more!
:beer:

Falcorr
06-13-2004, 05:39 PM
Superb line art! :bowdown:

And your values are packing lots of possibilities. Theres no way i can help you out. Since it would propably just lessen the pic. If you want to see crappiest concept in this contest feel free to visit my 2D entry :cool:

illustr8r
06-14-2004, 07:05 PM
The clock is ticking......................................... :hmm:

Falcor...Thanks for the compliments. I don't think your piece is crappy at all. I was impressed.

Thank you everyone else also....I hope I can hurry up and get some color WIPs up in time to get some crits before its all said and done.

Corlinator
06-15-2004, 11:27 AM
sorry to get back to you only now but i put up a quick tut on those metal metal texturing process you wanted to know about, i hope it will help you
your piece is looking good
good luck

illustr8r
06-15-2004, 03:53 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087314790_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087314790_large.jpg)

As I mentioned earlier my plan is to just kind of "glaze" in color to the value drawing. I toned the background with a blueish color to give it the over-all mood that I'm looking for.I started painting the Siren's bodies and mechanics.

artjunkie
06-15-2004, 04:25 PM
yes... Yes... YEEESSS!!!

The colour is really begining to bring this materpiece a new vibrance! Need to see more... go paint now.:bounce:

:beer:

Squibbit
06-15-2004, 06:55 PM
supawow ,u pretty skilled , dude !

gotta delve deeper into this thread at a later , more relaxed time

:thumbsup:

ardenrey
06-15-2004, 07:01 PM
No words :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: realy nice colors.
Keep it up! :thumbsup:


My MachineFlesh 2D Thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131505&perpage=15&pagenumber=4)

illustr8r
06-16-2004, 01:20 AM
Thanks for responding Corlin....Thats an interesting process. I apreciate your sharing.:beer:

SideAche
06-16-2004, 02:04 AM
Looking good, I like the mood of the work. Keep it up. We're getting close to the finish line!

illustr8r
06-17-2004, 04:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087488631_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087488631_large.jpg)

Time left: 1 days, 7 hours, 57 minutes, 15 seconds........Ahhhh. @*#% me!! The rope is around my neck here. I hope I cen get this done. So, I've still got quite a bit of work to do on it, but I'd really like some crits. I wasn't sure what a spotlight on waves in the middle of the ocean would like...what do think? Do you think the skin tones look right? The Siren's are pretty pale and the spotlights are cool light, so I didn't want to put too much warm tones....but I want it to look like skin still. Any C&C would be great...keeping in mind I'm not finished.

ET
06-17-2004, 05:17 PM
Heheh well dude i had the same rope on my neck too :) hope u can finish ur work on time..u had lots of work done in here.

goodluck and godspeed.!

ET
06-17-2004, 05:17 PM
Heheh well dude i had the same rope on my neck too :) hope u can finish ur work on time..u had lots of work done in here.

goodluck and godspeed.!

ET
06-17-2004, 05:20 PM
Heheh well dude i had the same rope on my neck too :) hope u can finish ur work on time..u had lots of work done in here.

goodluck and godspeed.!

Corlinator
06-17-2004, 09:14 PM
keep at it, it is really starting to take final shape, i love what you did with the higlights with the character in the foreground its looking sweet, just keep going i am sure you will finish:applause:

illustr8r
06-18-2004, 06:07 AM
Time left: 0 days, 17 hours, 53 minutes, 36 seconds! :hmm: no sleep for me :surprised

adrianis
06-18-2004, 07:19 PM
C'mon, don't sleep :wip: :wip:

don't surrender! :thumbsup:

Just worry for the online final image :
Time left: 0 days, 4 hours, 50 minutes, 40 seconds!!!!

And don't worry for the big TIFF:Time left for FTP submission: 2 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes, 20 seconds.



:arteest:

illustr8r
06-18-2004, 09:32 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087594333_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087594333_large.jpg)

Finally finished in the nick of time.
Time left: 0 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes, 49 seconds.

Here is the premise of the story behind this piece. I took the classic greek novel, Homer's Odyssey, and I set it so it takes place in a dark, futuristic, industrial world.

In the original Odyssey, the Siren's are beautiful women that live on an island and sing with bewitching voices that no man can resist. Passing sailors get lulled into a trance and gravitate to them only to have terrible, unspoken things done to them.

My siren's are also beautiful women, but sing into over the shoulder microphones that are wired to massive amplifiers that are then routed to a high powered speaker system. This "surround sound" system is all part the Siren's Island, which resembles an off-shore oil rig.

The three Sirens are bound to large mechanical arms that extend down from where they attach to the "island" above. These machines appear to serve as bondage clamped to thier limbs that goes so far as to be implanted within their backs and is attached to their flesh throughout their body. There is a duality in the relationship between Siren's and their mechanics, for they also hold controls that allow them to control the reach of the giant mech arm and slide back and forth along a track above them. They also have fiendish instruments of torture at thier disposal in the form of additional mechanical arms.

illustr8r
06-18-2004, 09:55 PM
:beer: cheers to everyone that participated in this most wonder challenge. It was great to watch everyones process and see thier original sketches develop into masterpieces. The quality of work that was achieved by everyone that tried really hard is incredible. :thumbsup: I have some guesses on who might win the prizes, and congratualations to those who win.

Thank you everyone who gave me comments and critics during my process. I would like to solicit one more round crits, so that I can get some insight on how to improve in the future. I have been working traditionally for years and am just getting into digital painting. I love it, but I also have a ways to go till I'm comfortable with it.
This contest helped me progress a lot because I pushed myself to try to produce a piece that could compete with some of the masterful digital painters in this contest........and the slight possibilty of winning the wacom or gnomon dvds, also helped push me, because they would really help my quest to improve. But, I also just had fun participating in this whole experience.

:)

Good luck everyone. Cheers :wavey:
Ben Shafer

illustr8r
06-18-2004, 10:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087596597_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/3615/3615_1087596597_large.jpg)

The Siren's are singing my song. Its time to go. Good luck to all.

Squibbit
06-18-2004, 10:29 PM
ahh ,so that's what it was , a siren island ! nice scifiment of a dustyold :)

can't wait to see your stuff when you're as one with a wacom
and say photoshop than you are with a pencil !!

hephez
06-21-2004, 02:14 PM
Beautiful!!! :applause:
I hear them... :)

duddlebug
06-21-2004, 02:24 PM
That's a lovely image, Ben...

I'm a bit busy at work today... i'll try and say some more tomorrow in my lunch hour!!

illustr8r
06-21-2004, 11:01 PM
Thanks duddlebug, I'll look forward to it.

I know the challenge has ended and I'm not trying to enter this stuff as WIP or anything. I just thought that I would post a couple of close-ups of the final image for kicks. You can't really see the subtlies in the tiny, low-res version.

Here is a close-up of the foreground siren. You can see that there is a lot more detail, higher contrast, tighter rendering, more textures, and more defined/ crisper edges in the foreground.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/illustr8r/fg_Siren_-close-up64.jpg

here is a close-up of the island mechanics (amplifiers, speakers, life-support tanks, antanas, mech arm, track system, etc.). You can see that the background elements start to fade as they go further in the distance. The edges become blurred, values get closer together, the painting gets looser, and the overall tones gets lighter and closer to the background color.

http://www.photodump.com/direct/illustr8r/island_mechanics_close-up540.jpg
I hope it's not a problem that I posted these close-ups. If I'm not allowed to post images anymore I assume a moderator will let me know. Again, they are not intended to to be WIP's...just close-ups of the final.

If anyone wants to provide me with more comments, crits, or ratings, they are more than welcome. The more feedback I get, the better I can strive to be in the future. Thanks everyone.:D

vincentvv
06-21-2004, 11:05 PM
I love those details...funny how beutyfull, almost abstract, or surreel detail can be, if the artist really had made love to em:)

Espezially the bottom one, almost a piece for itself

AlexKaiser
06-21-2004, 11:11 PM
great detail in these close-ups, I quite like the etherialness of the whole image. Great stuff. Also, did you add noise, or use a textured brush for her head attachment, or is it pixelated from upresing? As her boob looks alot smoother. (this sometimes happens to me after I do a sketch, upres it to work more in detail, but don't work up the whole image)

illustr8r
06-22-2004, 05:56 AM
Alex,

the texture on the mechanical areas is achieved from the tonal rendering that I produced with charcoal. I used this value drawing and "glazed" in color and also applied thicker areas where I wanted it smoother and brighter, like the skin.

Part of the reason the the breast looks smoother is due to the fact that I accidentally saved the low-res final image over my hi-res file. That sucked because I had to upload a high-res onto the ftp. So, what I had to do was take an older version of the hi-res piece that I had saved and make a new layer with the low-res final and set it at a lower oppacity, so the changes could show through. I then tried to touch up those areas that were different between the two in order accurately match the original. There might be slight differences betweent he two, like paint strokes, but I tried to keep the differences as minimal as possible. I don't know if that made since, but I tried to explain.:)

You can see the value drawing stages on earlier pages of this thread. Part of the reason I used this technique is that I wanted to get those interesting textures that I did with the charcoal. I posted these close ups, so you could see those little things. I like it when people notice then subtle aspects of a piece because I put so much effort into giving it that extra TLC. thanks.:D

polymonkey
06-27-2004, 12:06 AM
Wow! I really like the whole piece. But, it really kewl to see the close-ups too. THe textures are really neat and lighting is nice. I think its kewl that you did three characters while many people only did one. One of the best 2-d I'd say. :thumbsup: :bounce: :eek: :buttrock:

Squibbit
06-27-2004, 02:03 AM
--edit--
hey wrote here in a hurry and my thoughts weren't too well in it
so I wanted to come back to rewrite this and make my thoughts
clearer and easier to be understood. What I wanted to say is
this is truly great work , but something was bothering me in the
pic and I couldn't quite grasp what it was . I think the sirens
look a bit too much like they're hanging from the machine and do
not enjoy much freedom of movement . Maybe it's because they're
all in the same position. I dunno.. I still gotta think on this .. heh

illustr8r
06-30-2004, 08:53 PM
Polymonkey-

thanks for the support. :love:

Squibbit-

Thanks for the comments.... I appreciate you trying to help me by giving me constructive crits. I wasn't sure how to handle this, because the Siren's do have some control over thier motion, but they are also limited in thier freedom. They are bonded tightly to the overall machine and do spend most of thier days just hanging from the island.

I picture them almost as spiders lurking motionless in the corner of their web, waiting for unsuspecting prey to get caught in the middle. Once the victim has been lured into thier territory, they lower themselves down to eviscerate thier captive.

I was thinking about illustrating a more dynamic action scene in which the Siren's are attacking a victim, but I ultimately decided that would make the piece to busy. Maybe I could work out a different composition depicting this act for another piece in the series. But, for this one I wanted to express a kind of eerie stillness as the Siren's song resonates across the sea. It's more of an overall environment, mood, and atmosphere concept piece than a action painting.

So, that is an explanation to my thought process for this piece. You have helped inspire me to possibly create another piece illustrating a more dynamic event with different poses. Let me know if you have anymore thoughts. Thanks. :D

Squibbit
07-01-2004, 05:15 AM
I been thinking and I think you paint a scary picture with all that
stillness and silence :) .
I started imagining the sirens as they are , beautiful , but they don't need their beauty to charm their victims , just the song ... you described them
well.
While thinking about this I got new ideas on the subject , too .
In them , the sirens always had their feet on the ground on different
sorts of metal platforms and islands . they could move through the air
via a metal tendril attached to their backs . Also , there would've been
lots of mist around to hide / obscure the wires .
With the mists obscuring much of the metal and the song making others
ignore the machine parts ,too , and how the sirens "levitate"
the island would seem more magical.
This way they could add their body movements and beauty in luring the
victims closer , too . The thick robo-arms in their backs seemed unable to
allow this in full .
In one of them new ideas the whole island was a monster with the head
and tentacles below the sea . The sirens would be part of the monster
or just controlled captives or whatever .
In another idea the island , the sirens , the seaweed around the island as
well as all the insects on it would be one . In the seaweed would be hidden
smoke dispensers that would help in obscuring /hiding the island by
producing fog .
Hey I could show you the sketches I made on this later!
But those would be for another picture cause your pic works well in
depicting what you wanted and what I suggested wouldn't fit in that
particular picture's mood and atmosphere .
Anyways I wasn't looking for and action piece either , just a bit more
movement and poses :) .
I could post a composition with the sketches , too ,heh ,to explain
better what I mean.
Gotta say this competition with all the pictures and coversations with
all the people is a great way to help view things in a different way and
from many angles !
Well , that's my thoughts for now , back to you :)

PS. If you got the time , check out my picture and give some feedback
(it's somewhere on the 3rd page, I think)

illustr8r
07-02-2004, 09:05 PM
Wow Squibbit. You have quite an imagination. Those are some interesting ideas you have. I think its cool that my piece could inspire you think up such ideas and even draw sketches and such. I would be interested in seeing those sketches some time. Maybe you could email those to me later or something.

I agree that one of the more valuable aspects of this contest was to get all the feedback from fellow artists and also to see thier approach to illustration.:)

gthompson
07-07-2004, 06:59 PM
Wow, its too bad that the piece up for voting is so small. You really can't see the cool stuff that you can in these details. There are so many good 2-d entries its I just want to vote for all, but this gets one of mine. :buttrock:

Shinwa
07-08-2004, 03:08 PM
How many votes do we get...anyone know? Man - I have to go to work soon....but I am trying to get to everyone I've been checking in on these last few months.
Again, texture, and story! Good work. I LOVE the siren concept...but maybe it's because of my name and thus my interest in the Greek stuff. SO....lol I do know, however, that I love your use of lighting, Shadow, and your design for the sirens. The raging sea is an awsome element...it feels like it is because of them, and centered around them... Also, great job creating the depth and distance between each element.
I hope to see your work around more!:D

Slav
07-10-2004, 02:31 PM
really awsome image reminds me of thoes old hollywood movies about greece and their gods. really cool

good luck.

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