Internet2: File Swapping Haven?

[Per-Anders]

Because P2P has so many legitimate uses, the i2hub network is well-suited for this use. The network uses an application called Direct Connect that enables connected users to scour each other's hard drives.

hmm... sounds like the whole network is based on a trojan virus that people install themselves. :surprised

[fretshredder]

Originally posted by mdme_sadie
... based on a trojan virus that people install themselves. :surprised


ouch ... nooooo thanks. When I think "trojan virus" I do not think, "gee, let me install this on purpose"

:surprised

[tauism]

direct connect is not a trojan at all.
Its just another form of p2p like kazaa.
Users connect to a "hub" and people in the hub share files, thats it. No biggie, i've been using it for years

[ACFred]

Goddamn thieving punks.

[Layer01]

Originally posted by ACFred
Goddamn thieving punks.

i'm sure not all of them are damned by god or thieves, or punks for that matter... :p ;)

[Geta-Ve]

like my friend once told me, you have to have a rich aunty to get the things you want, and in my case i have a rich aunty torrent.. :p

[Tasu]

it's just like sharing over a LAN with "Read only" on the shared folders. I used to use up 80% of the LAN bandwidth in my dorms with about 1000 people trying to access the internet. Oh man that was hillarious. People would leave folders shared with "read write" enabled, so i'd be a huge asshole and upload like 30Gb of stuff onto their PC so that it'd run like shit. Dumb noobs :scream:

[bcole23]

I'm still trying to find anyone who uses filesharing networks for anything other than illegal activities...

[slaughters]

...Dumb noobs :scream:Or, innocent naive people who you saw fit to scr*w over. :)

[zappenduster]

I'm still trying to find anyone who uses filesharing networks for anything other than illegal activities...
hmm many people may remember the world of warcraft trailer/making of that was released by blizzard via bitorrent

or dan maas movie for the mars explorer thing

or getting a linux distribution, today i even checked some movies for the coming outrun 2 @ xbox

there are many legal uses for filesharing but most media companys havent realized the usefull site of filesharing instead of using and developing they just declare war against anything new

[ZEROSKULL]

Is it only me or the link is not working?

[kraal]

i use file sharing to show clients drafts and get files from them .... also when working on stuff between me and my brother.....and it is all legal.

[slaughters]

Strangly enough, I was able to get all those things, and use all those things by simply using the internet, web server space, and e-mail.

I kind of doubt though that those are the normal main uses.

P.S. The link was pointing to Yahoo, which does not keep it's news articles that long, I changed it to point to a different URL, so try again

[Mibus]

Actually distributing large (600-800MB) ISO images of Linux CDs is a very common use of P2P (possibly the most common legal use?).

People also share home-made music and movies, as well as larger open-source software. (When I run a P2P client, the most-often uploaded file I have is a copy of OpenOffice).

While illegal use may dominate many P2P networks, it doesn't remove the fact that there are good reasons to have legal P2P. (For instance, distributing a movie trailer on P2P saves huge gobs of bandwidth for the provider, because instead of serving up 1,000,000 full copies of the clip, they might distribute 1,000 copies, which get distributed another 1,000 times each - thus using only 0.1% of the bandwidth for the original host).

P2P software can be a really neat way to reliably transfer large files directly between two people - emailing 500MB isn't at all practical, and not everyone has that sort of hosting.

[Ondrayce]

I'm still trying to find anyone who uses filesharing networks for anything other than illegal activities...

Our company uses Kazaa to exchange files over the internet that are too large for email to carry.

[kraal]

Strangly enough, I was able to get all those things, and use all those things by simply using the internet, web server space, and e-mail.


well most of my clients have stupid emails that dont allow large files........ i give NO ONE access to my web server space plus why waste time uploading large files when i can just save them to a folder? and carracho is faster than plan net ....

[StephanD]

like my friend once told me, you have to have a rich aunty to get the things you want, and in my case i have a rich aunty torrent.. :p

Wow you're so cool. :applause:

[Mibus]

Yeah I've got a fiancee.torrent ATM, scheduled download for wife.torrent at the end of the month ;)

My mate is still trying to get a hold of decent_vid_card.torrent :P

[DePingus]

Our company uses Kazaa to exchange files over the internet that are too large for email to carry.
Your company (and anyone else doing this) should really consider investing in one of the many free FTP servers out there. Running Kazaa now days is a huge security risk. There are tons of viruses and trojans floating around that network just waiting to infect your systems (many of which are written specifically for Kazaa). Also, you have to worry about unknown users downloading your company's files. Plus, you're employees will always be tempted to use Kazaa for non-work releated reasons. Don't take this the wrong way, but using Kazaa for this seems irresposible and lazy. (Bittorrent, on the other hand, has its uses).

[BiTMAP]

kazaa can be setup to run on a closed network, that is what they are most likely doing. keeping private files private.


The whole entire "steam" system for valves Half-life Game, is based on the bit torrent system, they hired the guy who invented it.

[raz-0]

I'm still trying to find anyone who uses filesharing networks for anything other than illegal activities...

well, bittorrent has been used a lot to distibute large high demand files legally. Things like demos, game and movie trailers, older games that have been released for publicity purposes.

Granted, it's the infinitessimal minority, but it HAS happened.

[kraal]

Your company (and anyone else doing this) should really consider investing in one of the many free FTP servers out there. Running Kazaa now days is a huge security risk. There are tons of viruses and trojans floating around that network just waiting to infect your systems (many of which are written specifically for Kazaa). Also, you have to worry about unknown users downloading your company's files. Plus, you're employees will always be tempted to use Kazaa for non-work releated reasons. Don't take this the wrong way, but using Kazaa for this seems irresposible and lazy. (Bittorrent, on the other hand, has its uses).
speaking for myself i use carracho and it is just that peer to peer with my clients..... why waste the time uploading stuff when i can just save it to a folders as i work????? when you are dealing with cleints proofs and changes the faster the better ... i also use my web server space as places to show work to cliet .... the benifet of trading not over a ftp is the fact that i never ever ever give a random client my ftp site....... in on transaction an idiot can load up your space

[Mibus]

I belive Gnutella clients are also often capable of creating "closed" networks.

There are two huge advantages to using a P2P app over FTP:



Copies can be spread out more; if I need to send a TIFF to Alice and Bob, Alice and Bob can get bits from me and bits from each other. It only gets better when you're distributing it to more people


P2P apps usually use hashing of blocks to ensure integrity - if your FTP transfer gets corrupted, you have to start all over again.

(Edit: I missed a third one - some P2P apps can use compression and/or encryption, to speed your transfers and/or make them more secure).

[zappenduster]

The whole entire "steam" system for valves Half-life Game, is based on the bit torrent system, they hired the guy who invented it.

you got any link about that where i can read more ?

@Mibus
P2P apps usually use hashing of blocks to ensure integrity - if your FTP transfer gets corrupted, you have to start all over again.

ftp transfers are very stable i think if download stops it can be resumed if the server supports it (not equal to a hash file but most time enough)

[Mibus]

ftp transfers are very stable i think if download stops it can be resumed if the server supports it (not equal to a hash file but most time enough)

Usually they're not bad, but they're still not 100% reliable (probably 95-98%). It only gets worse with bigger files - I mean, FTP wasn't designed with multi-GB files in mind.

Resuming is OK for downloading, but isn't always supported by the FTP server (resuming uploads is actually a security risk, apparently - at least for all the software I looked at).

Resuming also doesn't help if the file gets corrupted :(

If you're going between two UNIXy boxes (Mac OSX, Linux, etc.) you can use rsync (http://rsync.samba.org/), which is a nifty differential-copy program. (we use it for some of our backup stuff).

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