GF 6800 + 3ds max review ?

[3Dfx_Sage]

Originally posted by Schwinnz
Does someone know if it's been made ?

I've been searching the web all the morning and found nothing. :shrug:
same reason no SPEC tests have been run- it will spank the QuadroFX 300 and that will cost nVidia money (people stop buying QuadroFX's til the 4000 comes out). Once the boards hit retail stores and people can review them without agreeing to nVidia's terms you can bet there will be plenty of reviews.

[CgFX]

Originally posted by 3Dfx_Sage
same reason no SPEC tests have been run
I guarantee they have been run but I will assume you meant published.

The process to publish SPEC scores is clearly spelled out on the website. SPEC benchmarks are run on a system, not a graphics card, so it is not nVidia's place to publish them. A workstation vendor is not going to go through the expense and effort to publish scores for a configuration that will never exist (GeForce in a workstation).

Also, why put the results from any SPECviewperf, SPECapc, or 3dsmax benchmarks on a website or in the data sheet for a GeForce card with they have nothing to do with the markets that card serves? Are people going to start using UGS performance to determine what to run Far Cry with?

Your suggestion that it is intentional due to a dirty secret doesn't really hold water since they haven't published workstation scores for Geforce cards that were slower than Quadros in the past.

[status quo]

Originally posted by 3Dfx_Sage
same reason no SPEC tests have been run- it will spank the QuadroFX 300 and that will cost nVidia money (people stop buying QuadroFX's til the 4000 comes out). Once the boards hit retail stores and people can review them without agreeing to nVidia's terms you can bet there will be plenty of reviews.

do u ever stop?

[3Dfx_Sage]

Originally posted by status quo
do u ever stop? you're right, a chip with 16 pipelines and 6 vertex units is going to be slower than a chip with 4 pipelines and about 3 vertex units that's running 50MHz faster :rolleyes:

[motoxpress]

Originally posted by 3Dfx_Sage
same reason no SPEC tests have been run- it will spank the QuadroFX 300 and that will cost nVidia money (people stop buying QuadroFX's til the 4000 comes out). Once the boards hit retail stores and people can review them without agreeing to nVidia's terms you can bet there will be plenty of reviews.

I assume you mean the FX3000. Are you saying that the 6800 gaming card will spank an FX3000 in 3D applications or in gaming(obviously it will here)?

GL

[CgFX]

Originally posted by 3Dfx_Sage
you're right, a chip with 16 pipelines and 6 vertex units is going to be slower than a chip with 4 pipelines and about 3 vertex units that's running 50MHz faster :rolleyes:
Raw rendering power is not the final answer.

The Quadro FX 2000 was significantly faster than the GeForce FX 5800 with SPECviewperf, SPECapc, and many workstation applications even though the FX 2000 was at a 100 MHz (25%) clockrate disadvantage.

[3Dfx_Sage]

Originally posted by motoxpress
I assume you mean the FX3000. Are you saying that the 6800 gaming card will spank an FX3000 in 3D applications or in gaming(obviously it will here)?

GL
most 3d apps. there are still cases in some apps at some times that cause major slowdowns (due to the card having to do a lot more work because of a lack of some specific pro-only features). However, even under those circumstances the raw power of the GF6 should be enough to keep the app usable. Let me put it this way- ever had troubble with a GeForce deciding to crawl along at a rediculously low pace in Maya? It took me months before I found something that took my GeForce4 to it's knees begging for mercy.

[mikefeil]

btw when is the gf6 going to be released? I hear early may then I hear late may ? any confirmed dates?

[Novakog]

I recall hearing memorial day (late may), but that might've been for the X800...

[3Dfx_Sage]

the GF6 will not be hitting retail shelves until june, possibly even mid june

[mikefeil]

how do you know that 3Dfx_Sage

[Pete2003]

Just thought Id add to this thread to mention that PC Format have published some benchmark results on their website comparing the GeForce 6800 Ultra with the FX5950 Ultra and the ATI Radeon 9800 XT.

Link:
http://www.pcformat.co.uk/reviews/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=29785&subsectionid=679&subsubsectionid=711

The benchmarks are really only based on gaming but suffice to say the 6800 kicks arse :)

Pete.

[CgFX]

Originally posted by isometrix
how do you know that 3Dfx_Sage
He doesn't.

[Novakog]

Originally posted by Pete2003
Just thought Id add to this thread to mention that PC Format have published some benchmark results on their website comparing the GeForce 6800 Ultra with the FX5950 Ultra and the ATI Radeon 9800 XT.

Link:
http://www.pcformat.co.uk/reviews/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=29785&subsectionid=679&subsubsectionid=711

The benchmarks are really only based on gaming but suffice to say the 6800 kicks arse :)

Pete.

There are about a billion of these reviews out there by now - I could list at least 15 sites I know of that have reviewed the 6800U.

Man, these threads always become heated debates between you two (CgFX and 3dfx_sage) - can't you guys just play nice? How about we stop arguing, and just wait for the benches to come out and then start some "I told you so" without the other person bsing about how the benchmarks are crap (unless they're from Tom's Hardware :rolleyes:).

[loop29]

Originally posted by Novakog
Man, these threads always become heated debates between you two (CgFX and 3dfx_sage) - can't you guys just play nice?

Yeah, I second that... I´m getting bored big time....
Obviously a gaming card won´t be as good as a professional card in 3d apps when it´s the same chipset generation. And mostly it will be slower because nv will cripple 3d functionality in the driver for the 6800 like they did before.

regards

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