Character: Engel

[Prs-Phil]

Woha, great story. Very good but the model doesnt really transport it. It also looks like you havent got alot of experience in lowpoly modeling because you model it like a highpoly model. Quads like crazy BUT you have 6000 tries to model her so its ok but still the edgeloops around her eye makes it look weird in the smoothed version.

I dig the story so much (allthough her death is a bit very brutal, simple and stereotype. Why don´t you put it that way that someone of her family slaugthered her for days and ... blablabla you can go on from here)
I´ll draw some concepts today at work and model her just for fun :)

Keep it up m8

[brudney]

yeah, the story's nice but i'd imagine this angel as a real heaven b*tch/killing sex machine...something like this girl from rammstein's 'engel' video clip or like salma hayek in 'from dusk till dawn'...

you know what i mean...

cheers

[wartorn]

yeah i agree... imean her face could fit that story if u make her really gothic like or eccentric somehow, with scars perhaps, or a very sharp glare in her eyes. I think its the clothing thats making her completely out of story. She looks like a spaceship crew member. Perhaps something trinity like, or something completely opposite like a wedding dress, or the clothes she was wearing while doing her jog. Also, perhaps scale her face up, cause it looks very round and childish. her smile also, and the cheek, make her look more like a baby boy.

[clalan]

Prs-Phil, you caught me red handed.. I am indeed a high-poly modeller :) any area in specific where I should cut down? or anything special I should avoid? I know I am well below the limit, but If it's possible to reduce the number of polys and still end up with the same result, I'll go for it.

The main problem with the character is indeed the face. after I modelled some legs I will definitly redo that. Looking at the person she was, when she was still alive, I do want to keep a certain touch of innocence (which is a nice link to the more common concept of an angel). but I would like to add just a touch of ... insanity to show what she has gone through. The only things that point to the background story are the gloves (to cover up the burn marks on her hands from holding on to the stars) and the T-shirt she's wearing (black with a halo on it).

maybe I started the last paragraph wrong.. the main problem is time :) .. I have to finish up modelling tomorrow and go into unwrapping or I'll get in trouble. So unfortunatly no time for major revisions :(

yet all suggestions still welcome!

[clalan]

seems that my previous reply is still trying to get past the moderators. let's fire the next one and see which of the two will make it first :)

so, update:

http://users.pandora.be/clalan/stuff/render11.jpg

well, she has legs now! I don't really like the folds under her knee, I'll probably try to fix those (and make em asymmetric once i weld both pieces together). apart from that I mostly worked on the face: made it smaller, reworked the eye, moved the ear, made the cheeks thinner, mouth wider, ...

if I would follow my teachers plan I should have unwrapped her .. erm.. a week ago :) so if you have some suggestions / critiques on the modelling, be fast and brutal :)

oh yeah, before I forget, tri-count at 3744

[clalan]

2 posts still under moderator evaluation.. now it's goin to look as if i'm spamming my own thread :)

anyway, just noticed that the number of faces on an editable poly is actually the polygon count and not the triangle count, as my teacher claimed. this actually makes a lot of sense and explains why the count was so low despite all the detail.. I should have known better :)

since that is the same teacher that will be checking the model I could pretend not to know, but I couldn't live with myself knowing that I exceeded the tricount ;)

so the count on that last render is actually 7060.. removing the folds at the knee already got rid of 100.. only 900 to go :)

[onelung]

yea, models nice, but game ready? dunno about that, i don't think i would ever get the chance to model folds like you have for a game character. only times i really make folds would be for the pants, and the arms, and it would be more for the silhouette than anything, and the shoe laces, are a bit much too, all these things can be pulled off in the map, and if you had a bump map, or spec. 6000 polys is a kinda high limit, not unheard of, but high. some of that gemoetry you might be able to put in the hair, or maybe give her some more accessories, ie, backpack, gun holser, whatever flows with the original concept.

nice run though, and trust me i know how it is to go form all high poly to mainly low poly. the biggest change is learning to put all your detail in your maps, its a giant puzzle game.

much luck

[Poopinmymouth]

looking very nice. close up of the face please?

[clalan]

update:

lowered her down to 5844 triangles. removed some of the excessive detail such as shoe laces and folds around the knees. It was surprisingly easy to lower the polycount without losing too much shape which means that i'm using my triangles very inefficiently :) .. ah, live and learn. too bad I won't have the time to optimize the model even further.

a close up of the face as requested:

http://users.pandora.be/clalan/stuff/render15.jpg

[gf666]

i think your story is just awesome!! good looking model! lots "o" luck with the rest!
regards gf!

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