Evolution - EBKen's concepts

[Teyon]

wow. Those are cool and would make neat maquettes. To solve your prob with the image thing...

instead of the "[html]yaddayadda[/hmtl]" use img in place of html.

where yaddayadda = the links you've posted.

or ask a mod to do it for ya.

[Teyon]

If you can post some orthos of the little girl with the pumpkin on her head, I may be able to squeeze her into my modeling schedule. :)

[azazel]

Hey Ken, eltazar here - i use 'azazel' nickname here on cgt . It'll be fun :b:

[EBKen]

hi teyon,

yeah, i knew about the IMG tag, but it didn't seem to work when i pressed preview. please excuse my noobishness :P

i'll try to get the halloween girl drawn for you ASAP. not promising anything though, i also have a schedule :P

i've changed them to image tags, here are the ones i couldn't fit in:

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/sketch04.jpg
http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/sketch05.jpg
http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/sketch06.jpg

[EBKen]

last two...

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/sketch07.jpg
http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/sketch08.jpg

[EBKen]

Originally posted by azazel
Hey Ken, eltazar here - i use 'azazel' nickname here on cgt . It'll be fun :b:

hey man :D

here's the evolution of #4, the voodoo guitarist...

http://www.kenart.net/misc/voodoo1a.jpg
http://www.kenart.net/misc/voodoo1b.jpg

[Teyon]

Cool, I look foward to the little lady. In the meantime, the character with the skulls mask and chain in the Bruce Timm style would be easy enough for me to draw my own orthos to work from. I had just started a model in this style on Saturday but it's legs are longer than his. Again, cool concepts. be back in a week or so with some pics.

[azazel]

Ken, the last two aren't showing up :p

[EBKen]

$#%#$^ fixed now.

teyon: that would be really cool - but as i understand it, for our entry to be valid, won't i have to complete orthos for the chain guy? i don't think i'd have time for that.

more or less finished front view of the voodoo guitarist, so you guys know what to expect.

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/voodoo_front_test.jpg

-Ken

[Serul]

Judging from the replies I got about my question (If I could also make Clara - Pumpkin Girl, next to Teyon), before the forum got restored. That it shouldn't be a problem, so I guess I'll be modelling her then aswell. :)

[jayreef]

Azazel, post that awesome render again dude, it inspires to work harder:bounce:


EBken, post those orthos for Azazel's voodoo guitarist again, they show off how things should be done, and compliment Azazel's hard work too:applause:

[azazel]

ok :)

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/mariachi3.jpg

[EBKen]

ah, damn those hackers. here are the orthos again. i've been busy as hell, still haven't gotten around to doing the guitar and posed view. sorry bout that.

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/voodoo_orthos.jpg

big version:
http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/voodoo_orthos_big.jpg

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/clara_final.jpg

-Ken

[Kirt]

Just wanted to pop in here and thank Ken for his contribution to the contest. Those concepts are fantastic!

Good job converting the voodoo child to 3D as well, azazel!

Good luck to you all. :beer:

[Flog]

wow AZEAL!!! WOW!!!

Great concepts too EBKen!!!

Great great work to you all!!!

[Lordrych]

Hey ebkin I love the littler girl i think i am going to try and model her, she has such character............LOVE IT!!

Rych

[Serul]

Alright here's a little update on my take for Clara - the pumpkin girl... Quite a few things aren't done yet and there's still a bit of tweaking to do on the mesh so that it'll smooth out better in some places.

Anyway...
http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/wip_clara_01.jpg


I hope I'm doing her justice so far :D

[Mechis]

@Serul
That is too funny. I love the hair detail at the pigtails. Such a funny character. Could you please post wires for us? Oh, and is the hair a separate model from the head, or are they connected? Really great work there,
~Mechis

[jayreef]

awesome work there serul:applause:

[Serul]

Mechis - Thanks, the hair right now is a seperate model, intersecting with the head and it's a closed mesh. Which should be fine for the final model. Wire's below...

jayreef - Thanks :)


Wires...
http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/wip_clarawire_01.jpg

[azazel]

nice stuff, Serul :)

[Mechis]

Thanks. Keep it up!
~Mechis

[digital_rhino]

Hey all

Ken, Great concepts. Serul, Azazel...Great models :thumbsup:
I thought I'd throw my hat into the ring. Heres my version of Clara.

http://www.geocities.com/shortbus_animation/clara1.jpg

Hope ya like!

[EBKen]

those look awesome guys!

serul: man, your pumpkin looks even better than mine! did you try modelling the eyes as holes, like rhino did? i think it would look better, and the eyes as you've done them would probably vanish when printed (unless you're planning on painting them back on). you might also want to make the wings and hairclip a bit thicker.

-Ken

[Serul]

EBKen - Thanks! :) I'm actually still a little unhappy with the pumpkin in a few places, but that'll be fixed later on.
I actually modelled the eyes as holes, but placed the sphere's to see what that would look like, guess I kind of forgot to remove them again. :D The wings and hairclip will be looked at. :)

By the way, did you have an idea for the final pose yet? Or is that the one where she holding her arms forward, or the one in color on the model sheet?

digital_rhino - Starting to look good, keep it up! :thumbsup:

[jayreef]

Azazel, whilst looking at my new desk top image , whilst doing some boring work of converting files i finally noticed what it was that was bugging me about the voodoo, guy

its the belt and loin cloth area, are you still completing these, are they still WIP

attached the desktop btw:bowdown:

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/voodoo_orthos_big.jpg

[azazel]

Belt and loincloth were still wip when i posted that image, now they look bit better (hopefully :)). Probably i'll push the cloth details a bit more, to make sure it prints correctly ;).

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/mariachi5.jpg

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/belt.jpg

[jayreef]

azazel :bowdown:

love it

[EBKen]

serul: actually the pose i thought was best was the one she's standing in in the model sheet. i WAS gonna have her arms out in front like in the original sketch, but it didn't 'feel' as good. partially because with her arms down, the lines of her arms point towards her face, focusing attention there. but pose her however you want :P.

azazel: looking great, man! the navel should probably be a big bigger.

-Ken

[Serul]

Update time... The dress is still temp, the feet and hands need a little more work and the tail and pigtails need finishing.

http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/wip_clara_02.jpg

And here is a nice hires one LINK (http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/wip_clara_02_hires.jpg) :D

Azazel - Looking real nice!

EBKen - I like the one on modelsheet the most aswell, but I'll fiddle around with some poses just for fun. :) By the way if you ever feel like it or have the time, could you come up with a nice looking base for the charater to stand on? If you like that idea anyway :)

[Flog]

wow more great stuff. I hope you guys are definately making a living doing CG cause you guys are great modellers!!!

Wonderful work.

I hope you guys have a story to tell with your characters.

are you working on any indie films or anything?

[azazel]

Made rough rig.... let's just say it barely works. Loincloth has to be hand-adjusted by lattice deformer for every pose. But for one, final pose it'll hopefully do, and i'll make a proper rig later on.

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/mariachi6.jpg

[SpaceJASE]

@Serul & azazel
Wow -
Both of these look really great. y'all did an excellent job at translating the 2D style into 3D. They both hold up well I think!

azazel - i dunno, but i think it'd be neat to see the spines of the feathers... and maybe even another layer of shorter feathers behind the front ones

[onelung]

Serul~ freakin great, she's adorable, just maybe add some folds or something in the dress, i know its flat in the drawing, but i think it would add alot.

azazel~ beautiful, love the pose, looks like clay already.

man i need to get to work. ahhhh!

great work guys.

[Serul]

Still wip, but the end is in sight. The tail and pigtails are still under constrution, when those are done I'll look into adding more surface detail here and there to simulate the scales. Furthermore I remodelled the hands, tweaked the feet, finished (well almost) the dress... and yeah that's about it for now... to be continued...

http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/wip_clara_03.jpg

BIG version (http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/wip_clara_03_hires.jpg)

Flog - Thanks! I actually do :D, well somewhat anyway...

azazel - Ah yes rigging something I also will be doing. Looking good!

SpaceJASE - Thanks!

onelung - Thanks. I was planning on adding the folds, the dress was still temp, not finished, I did say that ;) . But the folds are there now. :D

[katon]

Serul i just have to coment on your model. I realy like it and how you are presenting it. For some reason that green along with her character goes so well and i dont knwo why I like it so much. So i thought i would post and tell you it is cool, and the charcater is great. Only crit, it looks like you have a whole in her dress at the bottom and back, if that is supposed ot be a rip or somehting then i sugest making it look more natural and add a few poly or something. but that is it. Good job man and good luck with the comp.

Katon

[azazel]

Ken's lines,

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/axe.jpg

and the model....

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/axe_3d.jpg

[jayreef]

superb stuff azazel:applause:

[fellah]

waw, great 3d work Azazel and Serul, and very nice concepts EBKen! looking forward to follow this thread more closely from now on.

[Ecleposs]

Originally posted by azazel
ok :)

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/mariachi3.jpg
waow

[DrAdamDinosaur]

I hope no one minds me doing this but this isn't really a competition entry. I thought that all the characters together would make one cool game so I decided to model clara low poly. She's 2200 polys, fully rigged, even with ear, hair and wing controls(little excessive for a game model). Flat polys will be for alpha maps. Probably abotu 14 hours work all up, might do a walk cycle now. Not hte best quality image but....

http://www.users.on.net/muppatz/Adam/clara_post.jpg

I suppose its a little to late to enter teh competition for real. Would have loved to do the second pic with the two clowns but....oh well.

[azazel]

Very nice lowpoly model, DrAdamDinosaur. But alpha maps won't print correctly, so if you want to enter, you'd have to model that stuff.

[azazel]

Just testing the pose:

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/play.jpg

[jayreef]

well you got my vote, and i am in the friggin competition lol..

AWESOME< BRILLIANT<ROCKS:bowdown:

[jayreef]

slept on it, and have some more comms:thumbsup:

1) what do the rest of the band look like

2) bet the drummer is awesome too

3) where can i buy them, bet they would be highly collectable

4) was thinking about poses, and he needs a really extreme guitar pose i reckon, something like they do for air guitar stuff

like these

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/orions8/85232076NoAwmw_ph.jpg

all the best with the comp you guys, great team obviously:applause:

[azazel]

Thanks, Jay. New pose, according to Ken's sketch...

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/pose.jpg

[jayreef]

Thanks for the new desktop pic

need i say anymore:bowdown:

[Teyon]

Just sweet work! You guys are killin' me.

[Selim]

Hi,

I've been playing with lightning him for a while...

http://sykut.pp.com.pl/selim/rend2cc.jpg

[azazel]

just to clarify, Selim is my brother :)

[EBKen]

wow guys, this looks totally badass! sorry i never designed a base for you, azazel - i might have time to do so after the competition. the current base looks alright, but you might want to give it a bit of slope, so the bottom is a larger diameter than the top, if you know what i mean.

also, would it be possible to tilt his torso back any further? it looks like you've attached his dreads to the ground, so balance shouldn't be a problem. if you can imagine him jamming, he's just hit a high note and is in total nirvana.

-Ken

[jayreef]

Originally posted by azazel
just to clarify, Selim is my brother :)

lol.. that explains it, either that or he was a guenius in photoshop, or had hacked your peecee and stolen the 3D file:eek:

[Phb]

hehehe!!! really funny concept, and great realization!!
:applause:

[fellah]

yea azazel, really nice model and great lighting setup to by your brother! the only thing I can crit is the crack at the left shoulder(where the arm bends) makes him look like a doll(like at the cowboy in toystory)
that is nothing major though.

[azazel]

Thanks guys.

Ken, no problem with the base, man, you are busy anyway. I'll try to tilt him back a bit more, should be possible now.

Fellah, yeah, i know about that place.... i already did some tweaking... before it was one big mess. Hopefully, i'll fix it.

[Grugi]

The vodoo guy is my personal favourite so far :D

And Selim.. your lighting skills rocks!


-Grugi

[SpiritWalker]

hi, wonderful concepts.

i was wondering if i could model the clown character (the second concept- clown with hat and another clown (tongue?) coming out of his moth)

so if u could make concepts it would be great.

thanks

[Edco]

Man, I really dig Tiki Rock Star. The charatcer illustration was great and the model really pulled thru the personality and the details. Great job, guys!

[EBKen]

Originally posted by SpiritWalker
hi, wonderful concepts.

i was wondering if i could model the clown character (the second concept- clown with hat and another clown (tongue?) coming out of his moth)

so if u could make concepts it would be great.

thanks

uh... contest closes in 2 days time... so sorry, no time :(.

here's my finished voodoo sheet.

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/voodoo_sheet.jpg

-Ken

[SpiritWalker]

Originally posted by EBKen
uh... contest closes in 2 days time... so sorry, no time :(.

here's my finished voodoo sheet.

http://www.kenart.net/misc/cgtalk_contest/voodoo_sheet.jpg

-Ken

yes i know it closes in 2 days, i want to practice modeling and with no connection to the contest model the character.
i want to improve =)
anyway if it is possible it will be super

[azazel]

Final submission:
http://sykut.pp.com.pl/azazel/collage2.jpg

[katon]

Great stuff azazel,

He was one of my favorite concepts from the beginning and you did a great job. Good luck to everyone. Peace

Katon

[Serul]

Really nice work Azazel! :thumbsup:

Man, I got to hurry! Only a few days left... Luckily I don't have a lot left to do... but I still have to do it :eek:

[Serul]

Well I'm finished... here's the image...

http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/final_clara_sml.jpg

A few things could have been tweaked just a bit more, but I ran out of time. Ah well... Good luck to all! :bounce:

[Flaviosen]

Really nice model there...cute little monster girl :]
feel like a small child inside me screams TRICK OR TREEEEAAT!!

:thumbsup:

[azazel]

Nice work, Serul :thumbsup:

[jayreef]

awesome stuff serul:applause:

[EBKen]

woah, that rocks serul. thanks for the great interpretation.

[Serul]

Thanks all! :bounce: :D

Here's a link to a bigger hires version of the image. LINK (http://www.streamline-studios.com/jeroen/final_clara_big.jpg)

[RockinAkin]

Just wanted to stop by and say awesome work guys.
That voodoo guitarist is KILLER!

[Zycho]

Just wanted to let you know that i think that Voodoo guy is absolutely amazing!!! Its one of the best models i have ever seen!! He has so much personality and is so dynamic it just takes my breath away!!

[miloszwl]

azazel, swietna robota! :beer:

glosuje na twoja pracke

jakim programem/programami stworzyles to cudo?

Milosz

[azazel]

Thanks, guys :beer:

Miloszwl, model w wings 3d, render w c4d

[miloszwl]

nie badz taki formalny :rolleyes:

naprawde modelowales w Wings? niezle. juz chcialem posadzic cie o Zbrush i nurbs a tutaj czyste poligony. no ale przyznaj sie, ze u zyles Hypernurbs w c4d ;)

c4d to moj ulubiony program

pozdrawiam

[azazel]

Serio, wings, szybciej mi sie tam modeluje niz w c4d. HN oczywiscie uzylem :). A zbrusha mialem uzyc, ale w koncu nie bylo potrzeby...

[jayreef]

looks like a really interesting chat there guys, but alas

what are you saying about C4D:shrug:

[Grugi]

this is a wings model?? wow.. kudos to wings :D

[EBKen]

woah, polish is a cool language. especially when peppered with 3d terms!

i a u w!

[miloszwl]

sorry for our chat but i like Polish :wip:

jak zrobiles wlosy? wyglada jak extrude rownolegloboka w polaczeniu z hypernurbs, ale chce miec pewnosc.

i jeszcze jedno pytanie - od czego zaczales modelowac - glowa, brzuszek, maska? zapewne zaczelo sie od szescianu :scream:

Zapraszam na moja skromna stronke ;)

Pozdrawiam

[azazel]

sorry, we were talking about software I used... so maybe i'll answer miloszwl's questions in english.

Hair is actually done by Hair Department plugin for c4d - and some manual tweaking in wings, after the pose was done.

I started modelling from the very simple 'basic body' model i have, it's just faster that way (but i should update that model a bit, it has some problems). The mask started from the extruded shape.

To conclude: model is done in wings, hair is partially c4d, partially wings, render is c4d.

PS, nice stuff on your site miloszwl :)

:beer:

[miloszwl]

ok. thanks for info :thumbsup:

[Ruthebee]

WOW. Just WOW. You guys are absolutely amazing. :bowdown: I'm totally blown away by the incredible DETAIL you've managed to get in your models, not to mention the fantastically creative character designs themselves! I need to hang around here more often, I was feeling all down and bored with the assignments my proffessor gives us to do, but seeing the level you all have gotten to, I just want to get out there and practice practice practice till I can crank out totally AMAZING models like that! Thanks for the lift and inspiration guys, and good luck with the contest!:bowdown:

[ILS]

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it would be nice to have some of those models printed on SLA or get it 3D printed and then colour them by hand with paint.

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