choptider
04-21-2004, 12:38 AM
jeremy mariez has entered the Machineflesh 3D Challenge.
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choptider
04-21-2004, 12:54 AM
this is an old drawing i saw on a t-shirt...
but it is a classique picture!
i will try to do it on 3DSmax!!
i do some research on the position and the right mechanical ,
stuff to put on the both animals....
here a tiny research...
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/poisson-dessin.jpg
but it is a classique picture!
i will try to do it on 3DSmax!!
i do some research on the position and the right mechanical ,
stuff to put on the both animals....
here a tiny research...
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/poisson-dessin.jpg
choptider
04-25-2004, 11:17 PM
my next research!! on the movement and the characters!!
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/poissona3.jpg
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/poissona3.jpg
Lemog
05-01-2004, 09:13 AM
Very good concept, I like the idea of the mechanized dragonfly, I awaits the part 3d with much impatience. :D
atmocube
05-01-2004, 04:54 PM
i guess the dragonfly is the hunter and the fish is the victim, right?
and i think what behide the dragonfly is probably a bear.
pics tell you can draw wellll. love it:thumbsup:
and i think what behide the dragonfly is probably a bear.
pics tell you can draw wellll. love it:thumbsup:
choptider
05-02-2004, 01:09 AM
-thank's LEMOG!!
-ATMOCUBE i will think about it, it's not a bad idear to reverse the character predator!!!
this is a new sketch..the fish will have mechanical to; to assimilate the mechanical of the dragonfly...
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/poissona5.jpg
-ATMOCUBE i will think about it, it's not a bad idear to reverse the character predator!!!
this is a new sketch..the fish will have mechanical to; to assimilate the mechanical of the dragonfly...
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/poissona5.jpg
choptider
05-03-2004, 02:05 AM
first 3d step!!
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/lib030.jpg
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/lib030.jpg
Lemog
05-03-2004, 08:01 AM
clap clap clap clap clap :applause:
Good head starting :thumbsup: that's make me laugh :D
Good head starting :thumbsup: that's make me laugh :D
pixeljunkynz
05-03-2004, 12:56 PM
Looking good, I love your idea. I'm concerned it may not meet the brief. It's essentially taking a natural scene and just adding robotics. I'd work on your concept. Maybe they're remote controlled by humans, as a game.
See what I'm getting at, you need the twist, to make it stand out.
good luck, can't wait to see more.
See what I'm getting at, you need the twist, to make it stand out.
good luck, can't wait to see more.
choptider
05-03-2004, 09:42 PM
thanks
LEMOG : i'm happy to make you laugh!
PIXELJUNKYNZ : i want to see what you've done, but you haven't put the link of your 3D contest, if you had one!!!
i will work more one the contest, but i my job take my time...
LEMOG : i'm happy to make you laugh!
PIXELJUNKYNZ : i want to see what you've done, but you haven't put the link of your 3D contest, if you had one!!!
i will work more one the contest, but i my job take my time...
rattlesnake
05-03-2004, 10:47 PM
oohh, i only see red crosses:cry: , hope i can see some pictures later....:cry:
rattlesnake
05-03-2004, 10:53 PM
now i see, your modeling is really nice, and the concepts are just great nice work here:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :applause: keep rocking!
choptider
05-14-2004, 06:34 PM
next step, not finished yet!!!!
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson.jpg
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson.jpg
choptider
05-15-2004, 01:06 AM
In progession!!!
tomorrow i will go to the market to take some pictures of fish, because it seems to mutch hard to make it without any example!!!
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson2.jpg
tomorrow i will go to the market to take some pictures of fish, because it seems to mutch hard to make it without any example!!!
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson2.jpg
choptider
05-18-2004, 01:26 AM
i still have some difficulty to do the texture of the fish!!!
i show you how i see the scene!!
what point of view i use!
of course i will put mechanical part on the fish;
i change a bit the story,( in good advice of people on the forum!)
the dragonfly go fishing, he is the hunter, the fish doesn't no it!!
i can only show one picture, so i will put severals action in the final image, by puting some motion blur...
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson4.jpg
i show you how i see the scene!!
what point of view i use!
of course i will put mechanical part on the fish;
i change a bit the story,( in good advice of people on the forum!)
the dragonfly go fishing, he is the hunter, the fish doesn't no it!!
i can only show one picture, so i will put severals action in the final image, by puting some motion blur...
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson4.jpg
redwing77418
05-18-2004, 01:56 AM
good concept,good idea~
I like it.:beer:
I like it.:beer:
choptider
05-21-2004, 12:19 AM
wip!!
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson5.jpg
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson5.jpg
Lemog
05-21-2004, 06:51 AM
Good work man... I like a lot the move of the fish... good luck for the texturing... :D
Cygnus-X
05-22-2004, 03:34 AM
hehe I did not see your tread before wow really good job man:thumbsup:
choptider
05-26-2004, 11:01 PM
LEMOG:
thank's, again for suport!!
CYGNU'S:
thank's, i saw what you've done!!
even if i don't post reply!!!
HERE IS MY STORY FOR MY CHALLENGE!!!!!
in english:
In a far away future, Man has colonized the entire solar system. Estranged from its old belief system, humanity has found itself in a new sect: the cult of the machine and technology. This cult is driven by men who name themselves Priests of the Machine.
The Priests of the Machine are in fact humanity’s greatest scientists, gathered to monitor research, development, as well as system wide distribution of technology. On one hand, these Priests remind humankind of the benefits and semi divine advantages that technology offers. On the other hand, they also are the distributors of that same cybernetic knowledge. These two facts are what make the Cult of the Machine the widest spread religious organization the solar system has ever known.
On each planet able to support life, the Priests build temples that serve both as places of cult and universities: places where faith is taught alongside practical science. Cybernetic implants on the human body, from reinforcements of muscle tissue to bionic organs, are now common place. It is not uncommon to see a disciple replace a biological organ by a cybernetic equivalent to prove the person’s unwavering devotion to the cult. For many, the conversion of these body parts to cybernetics components creates a direct link with the God of the Machine, and those that choose to undergo serious reconstruction are designated as the chosen of the Cult.
Inside the temples are ecosystems which are reproduced to accommodate animals modified through cybernetic means. These creatures are sacred to the Cult of the Machine. They are the personification of the current level of technological prowess of the Priests. The process of creating and enhancing these animals through cybernetics is extremely complicated and, therefore, prized. The better one of the animals performs, the greater the glory for its maker(s).
The Cult of the Machine sustains a great rivalry between its priestly orders, which are many: Such a maneuver maintains a high motivation factor for its priests in order to outdo each other and push forward the field of cybernetic R&D.
In order to compare the order’s relative knowledge and efficiency, the sacred residents of the ecosystems augmented by cybernetic means are used. Each order chooses an animal, which becomes its totem and must be enhanced by the priests. Following, the priestly orders meet and arrange fights between these symbolic mascots in an arena, inside the temples. The winner finds its territory in the solar system enlarged, and is allowed to propagate the faith under its own banner. This is how the Orders extend their influence and strengthen their power on the divine kingdom of Mars, sacred land of the faith and center of the cult.
The most respected and powerful priestly orders are those of the Frog, the Lizard, the Mantis, the Turtle and the Spider. Each of the orders possesses its own doctrine, a particular point of view on the sacred texts as well as a specific scientific specialty. Besides those major priestly orders, gravitate tens of minor orders trying to gain influence lacking however the possession of human, technological and monetary resources of the big players.
The scene illustrates the confrontation between the order of the Fish and that of the Dragonfly, both arch rivals. The prize: Control of Charon University, moon of Pluto; it’s
quite a morsel which could possibly propel the winner to the rank of Major Order. Each of the animals have and illustrate the best of the “know how” the order in question possesses. They have weapons and abilities which reflect the order’s doctrine and which will allow it to defeat its enemy. The victory of a particular side is determined when its adversary is either incapacitated or destroyed. Such a contest allows the cult to fairly and accurately preserve, even in its most mystical aspects: the confrontation of two sacred animals under the watchful eye of the god of the Machine itself, a practical outcome: May the best one win.
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in french:
Dans un futur lointain, l’Homme a colonisé la totalité du système solaire. Loin de ses croyances passées, l’Humanité s’est désormais massivement rangée derrière un nouveau culte, celui de la machine et de la technologie. Ce culte est dirigé par des hommes qui se nomment les Prêtres de la Machine.
Les Prêtes de la Machines sont en fait les plus grands savants de l’Humanité qui se sont réunis pour faire progresser au maximum la technologie et la distribuer au plus grand nombre. A la fois porteur d’une Bonne Parole, visant _ faire prendre conscience aux Hommes du support quasi divin que leur procure la technologie, et distributeurs du savoir cybernétique, les Prêtres de la Machines sont l’organisation religieuse la plus répandue dans le système solaire.
Sur chaque planète habitable, les Prêtres construisent des Temples qui sont _ la fois des lieux de culte et des universités_: y sont transmit et la foi et le savoir. La cybernétique appliquée au corps humain, du renforcement des muscles aux greffes d’organes bionique, y est désormais monnaie courante. Il n’est pas rare qu’un fidèle échange un organe biologique sain pour un organe cybernétique afin de prouver sa dévotion au Culte. Pour beaucoup en effet, l’apport cybernétique est un lien direct avec le Dieu de la Machine et ceux qui portent en eux cet attirail technologique sont des élus du Culte.
Au sein même de ces temples, sont reproduits des écosystèmes complets où vivent des animaux dotés de matériel cybernétique. Ces animaux sont sacrés pour le Culte de la Machine. Ils sont la démonstration de tout le savoir que peuvent avoir acquis les différents prêtres_: l’opération pour doter ces animaux de matériel cybernétique est très dure _ réaliser donc très prisée. Plus l’animal possède un corps performant, plus son créateur est glorifié.
Le Culte de la Machine nourrit en outre une grande rivalité entre ses ordres, qui sont multiples: une telle manœuvre lui permet de motiver ses Prêtres de manière _ ce que ceux-ci se surpassent dans leurs recherches cybernétiques.
Afin de confronter leur savoir, les Ordres se servent des animaux sacrés, augmentés par des moyens cybernétiques. Chaque ordre se choisit un animal qui devient son emblème et que ses prêtres doivent améliorer au mieux. Après quoi, les Ordres se rencontrent et font combattre leur animal symbolique dans une arène au sein même des Temples. Le vainqueur se voit attribuer une portion du système solaire où il peut propager la Foi du Culte sous sa bannière. C’est ainsi que les Ordres étendent leur influence et renforcent leur puissance sur le royaume divin de Mars, lieu terre sacrée et le centre de leur culte.
Les ordres prépondérants sont ceux de la Grenouille, du Lézard, la Mante Religieuse, la Tortue et l’Araignée. Chacun possède une doctrine propre, une vision particulière des textes sacrés ainsi qu’une spécialité scientifique. A côté de ces ordres Majeurs, gravitent une dizaine d’Ordre Mineurs qui tentent de gagner en influence sans toutefois posséder les ressources humaines, technologiques et monétaires des Ordres Majeurs.
La scène illustre la confrontation entre l’Ordre du Poisson et celui de la Libellule, tous deux grands rivaux. A la clef_: le contrôle de l’université de Charon, la lune de Pluton_; c’est un enjeu de taille qui pourrait permettre au vainqueur d’accéder au niveau d’Ordre Majeur. Chaque animal possède le meilleur du savoir de l’Ordre auquel il est rattaché_; ils sont dotés, pour l’occasion, d’armes afin vaincre leur adversaire. La victoire de tel ou tel animal sacré est déterminée lorsque celui-ci a immobilisé ou détruit, son adversaire. Un tel concours permet au Culte de conserver, même dans ses aspects les plus mystiques, l’affrontement de deux animaux sacrés sous l’égide du Dieu de la Machine lui même, une portée pratique: que le meilleur gagne.
hope your enjoy!!!!!
thank's, again for suport!!
CYGNU'S:
thank's, i saw what you've done!!
even if i don't post reply!!!
HERE IS MY STORY FOR MY CHALLENGE!!!!!
in english:
In a far away future, Man has colonized the entire solar system. Estranged from its old belief system, humanity has found itself in a new sect: the cult of the machine and technology. This cult is driven by men who name themselves Priests of the Machine.
The Priests of the Machine are in fact humanity’s greatest scientists, gathered to monitor research, development, as well as system wide distribution of technology. On one hand, these Priests remind humankind of the benefits and semi divine advantages that technology offers. On the other hand, they also are the distributors of that same cybernetic knowledge. These two facts are what make the Cult of the Machine the widest spread religious organization the solar system has ever known.
On each planet able to support life, the Priests build temples that serve both as places of cult and universities: places where faith is taught alongside practical science. Cybernetic implants on the human body, from reinforcements of muscle tissue to bionic organs, are now common place. It is not uncommon to see a disciple replace a biological organ by a cybernetic equivalent to prove the person’s unwavering devotion to the cult. For many, the conversion of these body parts to cybernetics components creates a direct link with the God of the Machine, and those that choose to undergo serious reconstruction are designated as the chosen of the Cult.
Inside the temples are ecosystems which are reproduced to accommodate animals modified through cybernetic means. These creatures are sacred to the Cult of the Machine. They are the personification of the current level of technological prowess of the Priests. The process of creating and enhancing these animals through cybernetics is extremely complicated and, therefore, prized. The better one of the animals performs, the greater the glory for its maker(s).
The Cult of the Machine sustains a great rivalry between its priestly orders, which are many: Such a maneuver maintains a high motivation factor for its priests in order to outdo each other and push forward the field of cybernetic R&D.
In order to compare the order’s relative knowledge and efficiency, the sacred residents of the ecosystems augmented by cybernetic means are used. Each order chooses an animal, which becomes its totem and must be enhanced by the priests. Following, the priestly orders meet and arrange fights between these symbolic mascots in an arena, inside the temples. The winner finds its territory in the solar system enlarged, and is allowed to propagate the faith under its own banner. This is how the Orders extend their influence and strengthen their power on the divine kingdom of Mars, sacred land of the faith and center of the cult.
The most respected and powerful priestly orders are those of the Frog, the Lizard, the Mantis, the Turtle and the Spider. Each of the orders possesses its own doctrine, a particular point of view on the sacred texts as well as a specific scientific specialty. Besides those major priestly orders, gravitate tens of minor orders trying to gain influence lacking however the possession of human, technological and monetary resources of the big players.
The scene illustrates the confrontation between the order of the Fish and that of the Dragonfly, both arch rivals. The prize: Control of Charon University, moon of Pluto; it’s
quite a morsel which could possibly propel the winner to the rank of Major Order. Each of the animals have and illustrate the best of the “know how” the order in question possesses. They have weapons and abilities which reflect the order’s doctrine and which will allow it to defeat its enemy. The victory of a particular side is determined when its adversary is either incapacitated or destroyed. Such a contest allows the cult to fairly and accurately preserve, even in its most mystical aspects: the confrontation of two sacred animals under the watchful eye of the god of the Machine itself, a practical outcome: May the best one win.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
in french:
Dans un futur lointain, l’Homme a colonisé la totalité du système solaire. Loin de ses croyances passées, l’Humanité s’est désormais massivement rangée derrière un nouveau culte, celui de la machine et de la technologie. Ce culte est dirigé par des hommes qui se nomment les Prêtres de la Machine.
Les Prêtes de la Machines sont en fait les plus grands savants de l’Humanité qui se sont réunis pour faire progresser au maximum la technologie et la distribuer au plus grand nombre. A la fois porteur d’une Bonne Parole, visant _ faire prendre conscience aux Hommes du support quasi divin que leur procure la technologie, et distributeurs du savoir cybernétique, les Prêtres de la Machines sont l’organisation religieuse la plus répandue dans le système solaire.
Sur chaque planète habitable, les Prêtres construisent des Temples qui sont _ la fois des lieux de culte et des universités_: y sont transmit et la foi et le savoir. La cybernétique appliquée au corps humain, du renforcement des muscles aux greffes d’organes bionique, y est désormais monnaie courante. Il n’est pas rare qu’un fidèle échange un organe biologique sain pour un organe cybernétique afin de prouver sa dévotion au Culte. Pour beaucoup en effet, l’apport cybernétique est un lien direct avec le Dieu de la Machine et ceux qui portent en eux cet attirail technologique sont des élus du Culte.
Au sein même de ces temples, sont reproduits des écosystèmes complets où vivent des animaux dotés de matériel cybernétique. Ces animaux sont sacrés pour le Culte de la Machine. Ils sont la démonstration de tout le savoir que peuvent avoir acquis les différents prêtres_: l’opération pour doter ces animaux de matériel cybernétique est très dure _ réaliser donc très prisée. Plus l’animal possède un corps performant, plus son créateur est glorifié.
Le Culte de la Machine nourrit en outre une grande rivalité entre ses ordres, qui sont multiples: une telle manœuvre lui permet de motiver ses Prêtres de manière _ ce que ceux-ci se surpassent dans leurs recherches cybernétiques.
Afin de confronter leur savoir, les Ordres se servent des animaux sacrés, augmentés par des moyens cybernétiques. Chaque ordre se choisit un animal qui devient son emblème et que ses prêtres doivent améliorer au mieux. Après quoi, les Ordres se rencontrent et font combattre leur animal symbolique dans une arène au sein même des Temples. Le vainqueur se voit attribuer une portion du système solaire où il peut propager la Foi du Culte sous sa bannière. C’est ainsi que les Ordres étendent leur influence et renforcent leur puissance sur le royaume divin de Mars, lieu terre sacrée et le centre de leur culte.
Les ordres prépondérants sont ceux de la Grenouille, du Lézard, la Mante Religieuse, la Tortue et l’Araignée. Chacun possède une doctrine propre, une vision particulière des textes sacrés ainsi qu’une spécialité scientifique. A côté de ces ordres Majeurs, gravitent une dizaine d’Ordre Mineurs qui tentent de gagner en influence sans toutefois posséder les ressources humaines, technologiques et monétaires des Ordres Majeurs.
La scène illustre la confrontation entre l’Ordre du Poisson et celui de la Libellule, tous deux grands rivaux. A la clef_: le contrôle de l’université de Charon, la lune de Pluton_; c’est un enjeu de taille qui pourrait permettre au vainqueur d’accéder au niveau d’Ordre Majeur. Chaque animal possède le meilleur du savoir de l’Ordre auquel il est rattaché_; ils sont dotés, pour l’occasion, d’armes afin vaincre leur adversaire. La victoire de tel ou tel animal sacré est déterminée lorsque celui-ci a immobilisé ou détruit, son adversaire. Un tel concours permet au Culte de conserver, même dans ses aspects les plus mystiques, l’affrontement de deux animaux sacrés sous l’égide du Dieu de la Machine lui même, une portée pratique: que le meilleur gagne.
hope your enjoy!!!!!
Lemog
05-27-2004, 07:20 AM
Thank a lot for this very good story ! I like so much...
Fights in temples make me think a little bit to pokemon fight in arena... it's not a critic... I think that terribly fun...
Now... you continue to work on your picture... yew ? update man :D
Fights in temples make me think a little bit to pokemon fight in arena... it's not a critic... I think that terribly fun...
Now... you continue to work on your picture... yew ? update man :D
adr
05-27-2004, 07:23 AM
Nice progress bud, the model is coming along really nice and all the concept looks very promising.
Keep up :beer:
Keep up :beer:
choptider
05-29-2004, 07:53 PM
LEMOG:
i want to put many actions in only one shot!!!
so the fithing animals , for something else than survive ,comes over...
ADR:
thanks and good luke with your trycicle!!
----------------------------------------------
Wip of the week!!
i finaly finished a big part of the fish texture!!
i had to buy one fish (a small one!) and duplicate the texture many times.
i put a test of texture for the fish at the end:
it's a composed texture of max.
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson05.jpg
i want to put many actions in only one shot!!!
so the fithing animals , for something else than survive ,comes over...
ADR:
thanks and good luke with your trycicle!!
----------------------------------------------
Wip of the week!!
i finaly finished a big part of the fish texture!!
i had to buy one fish (a small one!) and duplicate the texture many times.
i put a test of texture for the fish at the end:
it's a composed texture of max.
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson05.jpg
choptider
05-29-2004, 08:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085857675_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085857675_large.jpg)
In a far away future, Man has colonized the entire solar system. Estranged from its old belief system, humanity has found itself in a new sect: the cult of the machine and technology. This cult is driven by men who name themselves Priests of the Machine.
The Priests of the Machine are in fact humanitys greatest scientists, gathered to monitor research, development, as well as system wide distribution of technology. On one hand, these Priests remind humankind of the benefits and semi divine advantages that technology offers. On the other hand, they also are the distributors of that same cybernetic knowledge. These two facts are what make the Cult of the Machine the widest spread religious organization the solar system has ever known.
On each planet able to support life, the Priests build temples that serve both as places of cult and universities: places where faith is taught alongside practical science. Cybernetic implants on the human body, from reinforcements of muscle tissue to bionic organs, are now common place. It is not uncommon to see a disciple replace a biological organ by a cybernetic equivalent to prove the persons unwavering devotion to the cult. For many, the conversion of these body parts to cybernetics components creates a direct link with the God of the Machine, and those that choose to undergo serious reconstruction are designated as the chosen of the Cult.
Inside the temples are ecosystems which are reproduced to accommodate animals modified through cybernetic means. These creatures are sacred to the Cult of the Machine. They are the personification of the current level of technological prowess of the Priests. The process of creating and enhancing these animals through cybernetics is extremely complicated and, therefore, prized. The better one of the animals performs, the greater the glory for its maker(s).
The Cult of the Machine sustains a great rivalry between its priestly orders, which are many: Such a maneuver maintains a high motivation factor for its priests in order to outdo each other and push forward the field of cybernetic R&D.
In order to compare the orders relative knowledge and efficiency, the sacred residents of the ecosystems augmented by cybernetic means are used. Each order chooses an animal, which becomes its totem and must be enhanced by the priests. Following, the priestly orders meet and arrange fights between these symbolic mascots in an arena, inside the temples. The winner finds its territory in the solar system enlarged, and is allowed to propagate the faith under its own banner. This is how the Orders extend their influence and strengthen their power on the divine kingdom of Mars, sacred land of the faith and center of the cult.
The most respected and powerful priestly orders are those of the Frog, the Lizard, the Mantis, the Turtle and the Spider. Each of the orders possesses its own doctrine, a particular point of view on the sacred texts as well as a specific scientific specialty. Besides those major priestly orders, gravitate tens of minor orders trying to gain influence lacking however the possession of human, technological and monetary resources of the big players.
The scene illustrates the confrontation between the order of the Fish and that of the Dragonfly, both arch rivals. The prize: Control of Charon University, moon of Pluto; its
quite a morsel which could possibly propel the winner to the rank of Major Order. Each of the animals have and illustrate the best of the know how the order in question possesses. They have weapons and abilities which reflect the orders doctrine and which will allow it to defeat its enemy. The victory of a particular side is determined when its adversary is either incapacitated or destroyed. Such a contest allows the cult to fairly and accurately preserve, even in its most mystical aspects: the confrontation of two sacred animals under the watchful eye of the god of the Machine itself, a practical outcome: May the best one win.
In a far away future, Man has colonized the entire solar system. Estranged from its old belief system, humanity has found itself in a new sect: the cult of the machine and technology. This cult is driven by men who name themselves Priests of the Machine.
The Priests of the Machine are in fact humanitys greatest scientists, gathered to monitor research, development, as well as system wide distribution of technology. On one hand, these Priests remind humankind of the benefits and semi divine advantages that technology offers. On the other hand, they also are the distributors of that same cybernetic knowledge. These two facts are what make the Cult of the Machine the widest spread religious organization the solar system has ever known.
On each planet able to support life, the Priests build temples that serve both as places of cult and universities: places where faith is taught alongside practical science. Cybernetic implants on the human body, from reinforcements of muscle tissue to bionic organs, are now common place. It is not uncommon to see a disciple replace a biological organ by a cybernetic equivalent to prove the persons unwavering devotion to the cult. For many, the conversion of these body parts to cybernetics components creates a direct link with the God of the Machine, and those that choose to undergo serious reconstruction are designated as the chosen of the Cult.
Inside the temples are ecosystems which are reproduced to accommodate animals modified through cybernetic means. These creatures are sacred to the Cult of the Machine. They are the personification of the current level of technological prowess of the Priests. The process of creating and enhancing these animals through cybernetics is extremely complicated and, therefore, prized. The better one of the animals performs, the greater the glory for its maker(s).
The Cult of the Machine sustains a great rivalry between its priestly orders, which are many: Such a maneuver maintains a high motivation factor for its priests in order to outdo each other and push forward the field of cybernetic R&D.
In order to compare the orders relative knowledge and efficiency, the sacred residents of the ecosystems augmented by cybernetic means are used. Each order chooses an animal, which becomes its totem and must be enhanced by the priests. Following, the priestly orders meet and arrange fights between these symbolic mascots in an arena, inside the temples. The winner finds its territory in the solar system enlarged, and is allowed to propagate the faith under its own banner. This is how the Orders extend their influence and strengthen their power on the divine kingdom of Mars, sacred land of the faith and center of the cult.
The most respected and powerful priestly orders are those of the Frog, the Lizard, the Mantis, the Turtle and the Spider. Each of the orders possesses its own doctrine, a particular point of view on the sacred texts as well as a specific scientific specialty. Besides those major priestly orders, gravitate tens of minor orders trying to gain influence lacking however the possession of human, technological and monetary resources of the big players.
The scene illustrates the confrontation between the order of the Fish and that of the Dragonfly, both arch rivals. The prize: Control of Charon University, moon of Pluto; its
quite a morsel which could possibly propel the winner to the rank of Major Order. Each of the animals have and illustrate the best of the know how the order in question possesses. They have weapons and abilities which reflect the orders doctrine and which will allow it to defeat its enemy. The victory of a particular side is determined when its adversary is either incapacitated or destroyed. Such a contest allows the cult to fairly and accurately preserve, even in its most mystical aspects: the confrontation of two sacred animals under the watchful eye of the god of the Machine itself, a practical outcome: May the best one win.
choptider
05-29-2004, 08:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858109_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858109_large.jpg)
more details
more details
choptider
05-29-2004, 08:18 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858291_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858291_large.jpg)
i will put booster and maybe a machine gun
i will put booster and maybe a machine gun
choptider
05-29-2004, 08:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858380_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858380_large.jpg)
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choptider
05-29-2004, 08:20 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858457_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858457_large.jpg)
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choptider
05-29-2004, 08:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858824_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085858824_large.jpg)
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choptider
05-29-2004, 08:31 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085859074_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085859074_large.jpg)
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choptider
05-29-2004, 08:33 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085859204_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085859204_large.jpg)
camera
camera
choptider
05-29-2004, 08:35 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085859305_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1085859305_large.jpg)
not yet finished, this is few tests!!
not yet finished, this is few tests!!
choptider
05-29-2004, 08:47 PM
sorry LEMOG and ADR,
i doesn't know i was suppose to put my images on the cgnetwork!!
i reply to you on my "page 2" and the image is in better quality..
thank's to you LEMOG, i was looking your entry when i anderstand what i whas suppose to do with this web page!!!
but i doesn't know , that when you post an image in the entry, it comes back in your thread, it put some mess in here!!
i doesn't know i was suppose to put my images on the cgnetwork!!
i reply to you on my "page 2" and the image is in better quality..
thank's to you LEMOG, i was looking your entry when i anderstand what i whas suppose to do with this web page!!!
but i doesn't know , that when you post an image in the entry, it comes back in your thread, it put some mess in here!!
jdsb
05-29-2004, 09:02 PM
hi, the concept is BEAUTIFUL and the modeling and texturing looks very great so far.cant wait for updates :) :applause: :applause:
Lemog
06-01-2004, 07:32 AM
Ahahah... you do the same error like me :applause:
French people are like that...
...we plunge in the work, and only then, we read the rules... :D
(et si tu es ausi fort que moi en anglais, ça se comprend...huhuhu)
Good start of texture work... I'm waiting continuation now :thumbsup:
French people are like that...
...we plunge in the work, and only then, we read the rules... :D
(et si tu es ausi fort que moi en anglais, ça se comprend...huhuhu)
Good start of texture work... I'm waiting continuation now :thumbsup:
choptider
06-03-2004, 04:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1086278155_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1086278155_large.jpg)
this is how they'll be in space!!!
this is how they'll be in space!!!
choptider
06-03-2004, 05:00 PM
JDSB:
thank's, you seem not to be in the contest, but i saw your work and it pretty good!!
LEMOG:
you're helpfull, and i hope i can finish in time this contest, just to see where i will be in the results!
thank's, you seem not to be in the contest, but i saw your work and it pretty good!!
LEMOG:
you're helpfull, and i hope i can finish in time this contest, just to see where i will be in the results!
choptider
06-03-2004, 05:04 PM
a better render!!
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson06.jpg
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/pson06.jpg
jddog
06-03-2004, 05:17 PM
wow I see this thread only now, what a great concept and the modelling and texturing impress me really !
Congrats :applause:
jdd
Congrats :applause:
jdd
choptider
06-07-2004, 12:40 AM
JDDOG:
Thanks for the support, and i hope you hurry up to the finish line!!!!
Thanks for the support, and i hope you hurry up to the finish line!!!!
Lemog
06-07-2004, 06:49 AM
Yeah... great job... to funny !
I like so much the textures interior of the fish mounth and the littles teeth :D
The idea of the minigun is very good too, and perhaps you can do more visible the canopy on the eyes of the dragonfly.
We feel very well the movement, it's a good point :thumbsup:
Just two crits, the fins on the sides of fish are a little too coarse and weird... maybe a better texture... you see what I mean ?
and the eye, a little bit too flat
I like so much the textures interior of the fish mounth and the littles teeth :D
The idea of the minigun is very good too, and perhaps you can do more visible the canopy on the eyes of the dragonfly.
We feel very well the movement, it's a good point :thumbsup:
Just two crits, the fins on the sides of fish are a little too coarse and weird... maybe a better texture... you see what I mean ?
and the eye, a little bit too flat
jddog
06-07-2004, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by choptider
Thanks for the support, and i hope you hurry up to the finish line!!!!
mmm :cry: It's for me impossible (you can read my probaly last thread... on the link under the signature)
But I still around to see your up-date, good luck chopiter !
jdd
Thanks for the support, and i hope you hurry up to the finish line!!!!
mmm :cry: It's for me impossible (you can read my probaly last thread... on the link under the signature)
But I still around to see your up-date, good luck chopiter !
jdd
choptider
06-08-2004, 05:50 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1086713438_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1086713438_large.jpg)
i prefer flashing color!!
than the real one!!
i prefer flashing color!!
than the real one!!
choptider
06-08-2004, 06:16 PM
LEMOG:
thank s to be frank!!
i didn't start to put the texture on the fin of my fish, i am a bitte affraid of ruin it and don't do a good transition.
I already got the texture, but i doesn't apply it yet.
And for the eye, i put an object on the eye with a ray lance effect, but that work very bad...i think i will touch it on photoshop....
JDDOG:
that's pretty bad!!
you make me cry a bitte
i hope you give us some news about your achitectural contest!!
and let us know how good you will be!!!!
I try to finish the dragon fly, so i will work on the background..
because it's a part i'm not good at, so i'll put few stuff on the decor and optimize the character!!!!!!
thank s to be frank!!
i didn't start to put the texture on the fin of my fish, i am a bitte affraid of ruin it and don't do a good transition.
I already got the texture, but i doesn't apply it yet.
And for the eye, i put an object on the eye with a ray lance effect, but that work very bad...i think i will touch it on photoshop....
JDDOG:
that's pretty bad!!
you make me cry a bitte
i hope you give us some news about your achitectural contest!!
and let us know how good you will be!!!!
I try to finish the dragon fly, so i will work on the background..
because it's a part i'm not good at, so i'll put few stuff on the decor and optimize the character!!!!!!
nicky
06-08-2004, 06:30 PM
Exellent choptider :applause: i really like your concept!
The posture of your fish it's very good :thumbsup:
i like the color on the dragonfly in the last pic :)
Good luck friend
The posture of your fish it's very good :thumbsup:
i like the color on the dragonfly in the last pic :)
Good luck friend
choptider
06-12-2004, 12:25 AM
NICKY:
Thank's, i hope you can do something for the finish line!!!
Thank's, i hope you can do something for the finish line!!!
adr
06-12-2004, 12:34 AM
Looking great Choptider , that insect will be a killer machine , the fish is looking great in his model and the textures also.
Keep it up :beer: Ill stay tune
Keep it up :beer: Ill stay tune
choptider
06-12-2004, 01:09 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1086998991_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1086998991_large.jpg)
this is the way that i want to see the dragonfly!!!
this is the way that i want to see the dragonfly!!!
hyst
06-12-2004, 09:48 AM
Mohihi exellent concept, I like it much haha~ good luck with it this summer.
hoho the bug's wings are really good :P
Anyway, it is real nice GG!
hoho the bug's wings are really good :P
Anyway, it is real nice GG!
jddog
06-12-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by choptider
JDDOG:
that's pretty bad!!
you make me cry a bitte
i hope you give us some news about your achitectural contest!!
and let us know how good you will be!!!!
ha this is the life...
Excellent material, :bounce: I looooove it !!!!
jdd
JDDOG:
that's pretty bad!!
you make me cry a bitte
i hope you give us some news about your achitectural contest!!
and let us know how good you will be!!!!
ha this is the life...
Excellent material, :bounce: I looooove it !!!!
jdd
choptider
06-13-2004, 12:55 AM
ADR:
thank to be here for support!!
finish it in time , that's the deal!
HYST:
thank's Weihan, but i think my computer will never goes to the end for this project, there is to much poly....
JDDOG:
you are here??!!
go work on your architectural stuff!:thumbsup:
THAT'S THE LAST WEEK!!!!! GO GO GO EVERYBODY!!
thank to be here for support!!
finish it in time , that's the deal!
HYST:
thank's Weihan, but i think my computer will never goes to the end for this project, there is to much poly....
JDDOG:
you are here??!!
go work on your architectural stuff!:thumbsup:
THAT'S THE LAST WEEK!!!!! GO GO GO EVERYBODY!!
hyst
06-13-2004, 01:12 AM
Hoho, the massive poly aren't such a big deal when you hide them all. Maybe just disp them as a box ? :o
Anyway you can always go work at school, I think there nobody left there :P
Hope I can see your final result from taiwan mohaha^^
good luck :)
Anyway you can always go work at school, I think there nobody left there :P
Hope I can see your final result from taiwan mohaha^^
good luck :)
pior
06-13-2004, 06:50 PM
Hi Jeremyboy!
Nice composition and above all, nice modelling :) Man I just started highpoly stuff and it's tough for sure...
Anyway, back to your entry. As I said before it looks really nice, but I have two crits, if I may :)
1 . the fish
Looks good and nice texture, but I think the mouth area could have more tension, if you see what I mean. It's gonna be the main point of focus, hence maybe you could suggest the muscles underneath the skin around the mouth a bit more. Same think about the "wings" or whatever these things are called :) Could be done in Z2 maybe?
2 . The dragonfly
Also very good, but maybe the color contrasts are a bit strong? this orange against this bright fluo blue... Dunno. But I know that's the way you like this :)
Anyway, cool work once again! Can't wait to see this completed :)
Later my friend
Nice composition and above all, nice modelling :) Man I just started highpoly stuff and it's tough for sure...
Anyway, back to your entry. As I said before it looks really nice, but I have two crits, if I may :)
1 . the fish
Looks good and nice texture, but I think the mouth area could have more tension, if you see what I mean. It's gonna be the main point of focus, hence maybe you could suggest the muscles underneath the skin around the mouth a bit more. Same think about the "wings" or whatever these things are called :) Could be done in Z2 maybe?
2 . The dragonfly
Also very good, but maybe the color contrasts are a bit strong? this orange against this bright fluo blue... Dunno. But I know that's the way you like this :)
Anyway, cool work once again! Can't wait to see this completed :)
Later my friend
choptider
06-15-2004, 01:45 AM
HYST:
thanks for support, and good holyday!!
get us some japan stuff!!! if you can!
PIOR:
thanks to be here and to be frank!!!
i know what you meen but , my first problem is to finish right in time if i can.... because with my tiny computer it take long time to make some render!!!!!
next picts are coming soon!!!
thanks for support, and good holyday!!
get us some japan stuff!!! if you can!
PIOR:
thanks to be here and to be frank!!!
i know what you meen but , my first problem is to finish right in time if i can.... because with my tiny computer it take long time to make some render!!!!!
next picts are coming soon!!!
Lemog
06-15-2004, 06:54 AM
tsss tsss... you may finish too... ok ? :p
choptider
06-16-2004, 12:17 PM
LEMOG:
I do my best!!
and i push my computer to the limit!!!
I do my best!!
and i push my computer to the limit!!!
choptider
06-16-2004, 12:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087384797_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087384797_large.jpg)
this is the final fish!!
i think!!
this is the final fish!!
i think!!
choptider
06-16-2004, 12:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087385073_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087385073_large.jpg)
the lights!!!
so few, i know!!
the lights!!!
so few, i know!!
choptider
06-16-2004, 12:26 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087385175_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087385175_large.jpg)
the first plan, but i think one more ligths will be better!!
the first plan, but i think one more ligths will be better!!
Tremoside
06-16-2004, 12:32 PM
Ahooow!!! Cool concept and fine dinamism!!! Keep it up mate!!!
I also like your colors....good choices!
Cya and best luck,
Tremo
I also like your colors....good choices!
Cya and best luck,
Tremo
Lemog
06-16-2004, 12:42 PM
)Now... I'm sure you can finish... then, push your computer... push.... push :wip:
(les nageoires sont beaucoup mieux :thumbsup: )
(les nageoires sont beaucoup mieux :thumbsup: )
newone
06-16-2004, 10:14 PM
Very funny concept! And good example for machnie parts
adr
06-17-2004, 02:30 AM
Is really nice Chop the whole concept is perfect and quite original,
Keep going :beer:
Keep going :beer:
hanzo
06-17-2004, 03:23 AM
:beer: WOHOOOW! now this is neet, u should make an animation the concept would be really wild in an animation..
:bounce: :bounce:
PS: I mist another great one :cry:
:bounce: :bounce:
PS: I mist another great one :cry:
Versiden
06-17-2004, 09:46 AM
awesome, the hunted becomes the hunter.. or in this case.. one badass mother f**ker with a gun ;p
push onto the final!
push onto the final!
choptider
06-17-2004, 12:21 PM
To much plaisure inside me!!!!:love:
TREMOSIDE:
Thanks for suppport!
i saw what you've done and i sad to had miss that!!!
LEMOG:
Always positive!!
that is the key to shinning.:)
NEWONE:
Thanks!!!
I just saw what you've done!!!
i love, like your way to show your character!!
i meen the point of view and the feeling that come out of your image
:applause:
ADR:
THANKS!!!
you have finished your work!!!
good job!!! congratulation:thumbsup:
HANZO:
Thanks!!!
but keep working wee don't have much time left!!!
VERSIDEN:
You have finished your work???
you're close to the end
good work!!:applause:
TREMOSIDE:
Thanks for suppport!
i saw what you've done and i sad to had miss that!!!
LEMOG:
Always positive!!
that is the key to shinning.:)
NEWONE:
Thanks!!!
I just saw what you've done!!!
i love, like your way to show your character!!
i meen the point of view and the feeling that come out of your image
:applause:
ADR:
THANKS!!!
you have finished your work!!!
good job!!! congratulation:thumbsup:
HANZO:
Thanks!!!
but keep working wee don't have much time left!!!
VERSIDEN:
You have finished your work???
you're close to the end
good work!!:applause:
choptider
06-17-2004, 12:45 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087472699_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087472699_large.jpg)
i'm not sure about the color water!???
i'm not sure about the color water!???
choptider
06-17-2004, 12:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087472952_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087472952_large.jpg)
i don't know what to put on the horizon!!!
i don't know what to put on the horizon!!!
OZ
06-17-2004, 12:50 PM
very nice idea!
Lemog
06-17-2004, 01:05 PM
Only two things don't agree me...
- the color of the water... with the violet light on the fish... or change this color by a green... maybe better for the environment...
- the stone, too simple, too spheric...
Il ne faudra pas oublier les claboussures, gouttes et gerbes... :D
- the color of the water... with the violet light on the fish... or change this color by a green... maybe better for the environment...
- the stone, too simple, too spheric...
Il ne faudra pas oublier les claboussures, gouttes et gerbes... :D
choptider
06-18-2004, 11:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087599593_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087599593_large.jpg)
this is the alphas channels used...
this is the alphas channels used...
choptider
06-19-2004, 12:00 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087599652_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087599652_large.jpg)
this is the end!
this is the end!
choptider
06-19-2004, 12:32 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087601527_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/3400/3400_1087601527_large.jpg)
the real one!!
few change of last minute!!!
the real one!!
few change of last minute!!!
adr
06-19-2004, 01:31 AM
Congratulations Chop you final image is great. really like the colors and the mood imo will be nice to add some motion blur but i know that the time was short.
Best of luck mate . Hope you see you soon . in another challenge.:beer: :beer:
Best of luck mate . Hope you see you soon . in another challenge.:beer: :beer:
choptider
06-19-2004, 05:07 AM
Like Homer say: YOUHOUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!
i've done it!!!
-OZ-:
thank's to appressiate!!
LEMOG:
I heared you!!!
and i change few stuff!!!
even if that is not quite what i wan
:surprised
ADR:
I did it, but that was close...
3 hours before the end i thought i couldn't make it!!!!:rolleyes:
I thank you all to be there for support:love:
i anderstand the importance of reply!!!
i will put some wallpaper of my work, for people who want!!
i've done it!!!
-OZ-:
thank's to appressiate!!
LEMOG:
I heared you!!!
and i change few stuff!!!
even if that is not quite what i wan
:surprised
ADR:
I did it, but that was close...
3 hours before the end i thought i couldn't make it!!!!:rolleyes:
I thank you all to be there for support:love:
i anderstand the importance of reply!!!
i will put some wallpaper of my work, for people who want!!
Tremoside
06-20-2004, 12:26 PM
Hey you have a great final!!!
Your colors are my favorits...
Congratulations and best luck!!!
:wavey:
Your colors are my favorits...
Congratulations and best luck!!!
:wavey:
Lemog
06-21-2004, 07:48 AM
Yeah man... I think now, it's G.R.E.A.T.
Colors are better (for me)... we feel more the movement... and the new framing is fantastic... better value for the scene.
I like so much... an awesome artwork for sure, and principally, it's finish in time, I'm happy for you :thumbsup:
And then, good luck...
Colors are better (for me)... we feel more the movement... and the new framing is fantastic... better value for the scene.
I like so much... an awesome artwork for sure, and principally, it's finish in time, I'm happy for you :thumbsup:
And then, good luck...
choptider
06-21-2004, 01:07 PM
TREMOSIDE:
thanks, and you know what i think about your work.....:thumbsup:
LEMOG:
i don't think it's great, because i don't work enough on the back, and my friend tells me that we saw the mouvement better in the hold render!!
By the way i give you a wallpaper:
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/wallpaper01_jeremy-mariez.jpg (http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/wallpaper01_jeremy-mariez.jpghere)
thanks, and you know what i think about your work.....:thumbsup:
LEMOG:
i don't think it's great, because i don't work enough on the back, and my friend tells me that we saw the mouvement better in the hold render!!
By the way i give you a wallpaper:
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/wallpaper01_jeremy-mariez.jpg (http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/wallpaper01_jeremy-mariez.jpghere)
choptider
06-21-2004, 02:01 PM
sorry here:
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/wallpaper01_jeremy-mariez.jpg
http://jeremymariez.free.fr/image/cg3d/wallpaper01_jeremy-mariez.jpg
Lemog
06-21-2004, 02:06 PM
You make an error... I know you don't work enough time on it... and you speed to finish in time.. but I think you find an harmonic way in the final picture, with some beautiful color... that's all :D
rajdeep
06-21-2004, 02:46 PM
Congrat's friend, great work!! feel sorry having missed it for so long..Your idea in the composition color's are all so cool, finally amazing result, congrat's once again...:) :thumbsup:
choptider
06-23-2004, 10:44 PM
thank's guys, i try to see every work!!
to be honest , lot of my friends tell me ,that i my the shot, and i could be a lot better...it's a shame!!!!:shrug:
to be honest , lot of my friends tell me ,that i my the shot, and i could be a lot better...it's a shame!!!!:shrug:
Tranchefeux
06-25-2004, 10:57 AM
hello wing chung man, these some word of encouragement for your
realization, especially for the dragonfly which with my direction
would have inherited me the best development because it is very owl
are harmony of colors style the Eighty make me recall the hours of
glory of the Aerographer and I am always a little nostalgic of the
imagery of this time, good luck the contest... With soon :applause:
realization, especially for the dragonfly which with my direction
would have inherited me the best development because it is very owl
are harmony of colors style the Eighty make me recall the hours of
glory of the Aerographer and I am always a little nostalgic of the
imagery of this time, good luck the contest... With soon :applause:
hyst
08-11-2004, 07:08 AM
GG joli boulot!
c rendu sous max ?
A bientot j'espere!
c rendu sous max ?
A bientot j'espere!
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