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coo_kie73
04-18-2004, 02:38 PM
Hi there:bounce:

I have completed a bicycle by the fence scene. Pl comment for me to improve. Thanks in advance. 8)

cheers
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I also added the link to the previous picture of the scene. Someone has commented on the ground texture so I have changed it to grassland.

http://www.geocities.com/my3devolution/bicycle.html?1082167861641

coo_kie73
04-19-2004, 10:02 AM
78 downloads and no comment - is it bad?

metre
04-19-2004, 10:30 AM
ham...i dont like, it is a simple scene and very irealist...sorry

xcvbnm
04-19-2004, 10:31 AM
Not bad at all :) ;)
The bicycle is floating in air... by the way.

Edit: OK dint see second one, its much better I think.

DShadow
04-19-2004, 10:32 AM
Well I think It's because the image quality is very poor. Try making it bigger and improving the quality. model looks pretty good but colors and textures seems too need some work.

buzzbomb
04-19-2004, 11:12 AM
The color of the grass is a bit too saturated. The image will improve a lot when you desaturate it ;)

Joel Hooks
04-19-2004, 01:29 PM
The obvious repeating on the fences needs to be removed.

coo_kie73
04-20-2004, 06:06 AM
Hi,

Thanks all for the comments.

To lowdown - I noticed that too. I tried playing with the mapping co-ordinate of each piece, obviously it's not enough. Will improve on that. I am tempted to map a stone wall to make it more photo realistic.

To metre - It is actually meant to be a simple scene. It is a derivative off the bicycle model that I am currently working on. But thanks anyway. :)

To buzzbomb - u are right. Will do that. Thanks.

To DShadow - The attachment only allow 20kb. How do u attach the pic directly on the post itself?

To Psan - Thanks.

cheers
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polycowboy
04-20-2004, 07:36 AM
Your fence texture is repeating. The black of the bike tire is too black, it doesn't seem to have any value across its form. The bike's frame is pretty irregular. Usually the handle bars aren't thicker than the major diagonal in the frame. I don't know about the mud guards, and the spoke in the bike tires don't look properly spaced. You need some diffuse maps in your texture or a different lighting setup because it seems to be lit from everywhere evenly, almost as if it was a simple hardware render or something. The scale of the textures on the ground is rather confusing. The shape of the ground is flat but the texture makes me think of boulders or a mountain side. There's a lot more subtle things about bikes, textures, and light that you need to observe before you call it done. I realize it's a work in progress so all I can say is that it's a good start, keep on going man.

metre
04-20-2004, 11:58 AM
...ok coo_kie73...i understand your opinion...

coo_kie73
04-21-2004, 01:11 AM
Hi polycowboy - I am working on the spoke last nite - redoing it competely.

As for the lighting, u are right. It is just a two points (main & fill) lighting that covered the whole area 'cos I did not use GI.

The tyre itself does not have any thread - will work on that too. Likewise for the handle and the ground.

As for the fence, I do occasionally see some perfection in real life like the repeating of fence wood or the cleanliness of the floor, but for cg, the general idea is to make it imperfect? However, I will work on this too as I also received the same comments from my cg friends. Strangely, most of my non-cg friends did not comment on this. They mostly commented on the lighting and the ground.

Overall, it should still be a W.I.P - sorry about that. But thanks for the comments - it really helps alot. Will spend the next few nite doing on these details. :)

cheers
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coo_kie73
04-23-2004, 04:01 AM
A bigger picture to show...

http://img56.photobucket.com/albums/v172/coo_kie73/?action=view&current=final_scene.jpg

coo_kie73
04-28-2004, 07:34 AM
Had rendered one more scene and use photo editor effect to make it look like oil painting style.


http://img56.photobucket.com/albums/v172/coo_kie73/?action=view&current=bic_scene2.jpg

:bounce:

Panupat
04-28-2004, 07:56 AM
Your image fails because it lacks the basic composition elements. Your focal point which is the bycicle is cropped and is dead centered. You might want to start learning more about basic composition, you know, leading lines, focal points, rule of thirds, all sorts of stuff that will enhance your work, 2D or 3D.

3D wise, I can't give any c&c on your second image because I can't see it clearly... take out that photoshop effect if you want a critique on your 3D piece.

coo_kie73
04-28-2004, 09:12 AM
Hi Panupat, here u go!

http://img56.photobucket.com/albums/v172/coo_kie73/?action=view&current=bic_scene3.jpg

coo_kie73
04-29-2004, 01:33 AM
:bounce:
Render another view with better lighting one last nite.

http://img56.photobucket.com/albums/v172/coo_kie73/?action=view&current=bic-scene3a.jpg

coo_kie73
04-30-2004, 02:50 AM
Make some minor changes : flatten the tyres, removed the long grass, change some of the rusts. For further comments & crits.

http://img56.photobucket.com/albums/v172/coo_kie73/?action=view&current=bic_scene4a.jpg

aesir
04-30-2004, 03:51 AM
I'd say re-inflate one of the tires, make a better tire texture, and change the fence texture on that spotty black and white fence piece

raft
04-30-2004, 05:35 AM
your newest version is soo much better than the first one keep it up

coo_kie73
04-30-2004, 10:15 AM
Hi raft - Thanks!

Hi aesir - I was thinking whether to include the thread in. You are the fifth pple to comment on the lack of tyre thread so i tink it must have been quite noticeable to have a smooth tyre. I will do it. Thanks alot! :)

coo_kie73
05-06-2004, 03:38 AM
Hi there,

I made some changes according to the feedback that i received and here the final pictures. Please c & c!

Thanks.

http://img56.photobucket.com/albums/v172/coo_kie73/?action=view&current=bic8.jpg

:cool:

aesir
05-06-2004, 03:49 AM
A lot of stuff is looking better, and wet paint for the fence is not necessarily bad, but you shouldnt have a green fence along with green grass. It looks wrong. Choose a color to complement the green grass. The fence also looks close to a solid color. Try to add a subtle fence texture, or perhaps a bumpmap to it.

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